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italo:
Moses also worshipped(shakah) his father-in-law in Ex18:7...so men can also receive worship.

Exodus 18:7 (ESV)
7 Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. And they asked each other of their welfare and went into the tent
Where is worship here?

You asked for proof that Jesus was worshipped on earth and I have you. What was your point?

Again, Jesus was and is worshipped as God. Since he was worshipped on earth, do you have any objection to the world worshipping you italo?

When he was born, Angels worshipped him. Do you think you are worthy of worship just like Jeaus Christ italo?

I don't what hypothetical answers, 'men can.....' I need to hear you saying you are worthy of worship and you forgive sins and give men eternal life just as Jesis Christ

italo:
Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

You have ignored a simple question

DO YOU PRAY TO MARY TO POSSESS TOU AS TAUGHT BY POPE JOHN PAUL II?

ccollins:
you know you haven't said anything yet. what did she say in her book. name the book and what page. you have to be reasonable before you rush to quick conclusions.... say 1 thing true against her that I can see and I give you a Bible verses on it,trust me

I gave you a link full of this. What else do you want?

Do you want us to examine them individually?

italo
Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.


Here is a 'good' video on how to channel a spirit guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtG3q2imKGg

italo, do you make this prayer?

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

italo:
Did you eat a snake or drink anointed milk from your pastors penis?

I don't. There are some people who eat snakes but personally that is not my thing. It is sin to suck a man's penis.

I notice you won't admit to this
Do you pray for Virgin Mary to possess you?

italo:
Where did Jesus receive worship on earth?

Luke 24:52King James Version (KJV)

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Do you think this happened on Mars or Uranus?

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ccollins:
we all have facilities God blessed us with. I don't want to argue on issue again as it is advicable to leave it on God to judge.. if you read my previous post on judgement where I quoted Bible verses with understanding of it.I gave reasons why you can't judge.. by the fruits, you know some one as stated in Bible. So far so GOOD., most of us are comfortable with what she says except if she now decides to disobey the word of God. even David respected Saul when the grace of God was no longer with Saul or even the anointing.the letter apostle Paul wrote to churches of Corinthians deals on righteousness.. can you tell me where he said we should judge one revelation or challenge ones position as regards spiritual messages.. if false, I do believe the Spirit of God will reveal it

see this excerpt I researched out:

1) The recipients (early corinthian churches) of this letter were debaucherous and
immoral. Infighting was common, and they were quick
to sue each other. They entertained false teachings
and lacked spiritual maturity.


2) Word had reached the apostle
Paul that the Christian community in Corinth had
fallen into a variety of serious moral errors. The
vibrantly pagan culture that Corinth was famous for
had crept into the church there—to the point where
there was alarmingly little that distinguished the
Christians from the non-Christians.
But Paul’s letter to the spiritually struggling Corinthian
church was not intended just to harangue them for
their failings. Paul challenged his Corinthian brothers
and sisters not just to step back from error, but to
actively cultivate holy lives in emulation of Jesus
Christ.

3) In his characteristic style, Paul
opens his letter by getting straight to the heart of the
Corinthians’ problem: misplaced priorities. He
contrasts the wisdom of the world with the wisdom of
God, asking the Corinthians—proud of their
philosophical knowledge—which type of wisdom they
ought to pursue.
From there, Paul moves on to address the specific
moral problems in the Corinthian church, including
divisiveness , sexual immorality, and litigiousness . His
words, however harsh, are always accompanied by
positive encouragement to strive for holiness; and
throughout the letter his genuine concern is evident:
“I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you
as my dear children.”
Paul’s letter wraps up with some of the most well-
known passages in the entire Bible, notably the
famous “love chapter” and an eloquent explanation of
the great hope around which Christanity revolves: the
resurrection of Jesus Christ .



ITS NOT JUST QUOTING BIBLE BUT AS ASKING GOD FOR GUIDANCE TOO AND KNOWING WHAT GOD INTENTIONS ARE AND NOT TOO SUIT SELFISH DESIRES OR PRIDE. (IF YOU CAN SHOW ME GOOD EVIDENCE FROM BIBLE WHERE AND HOW REBECCA BROWN CONFLICTS GOD'S WORD INTENTIONALLY FROM HER ACTIONS AND WORD. SHOW IT TO ME THEN I, WOULD BELIEVE INSTEAD OF JUDGING HER FROM A DISTANCE or following others who follow the crowd to persecute, do you have any revelation from God that Rebecca brown is of darkness I rest my case

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The lie about an Internet photo is really nothing. The most toxic lies are in her books which you continue to hold as bastions of wisdom

I have given you links with sufficient proof but you choose to imagine it is not credible, or is malicious

italo:
I didn't. You're hallucinating again.

Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

italo:
You said the bold.

Ask the writer of Heb 9:12 when. I'm not the writer.

Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

italo:
Jesus never broke a commandment.

If he talked to saints, it can't be a sin.

He received worship of men so by your logic,

It is equally not a sin to receive worship. Can I worship you italo?

italo:
Where did I say so?

You quoted that verse to justify praying to dead men so obviously you must have been brainwashed to read dead men there. Where are dead men in this verse?

italo:
We talk to living saints, like Jesus.

Jesus is God and you are not God. Do you also receive worship from men as Jesus did?

italo:
In Hebrew 9:12.

WHEN was that?

You said the bold so tell us when.

He has not. So I ask, on what basis do you worship Devils and beg them to possess you and basically get guidance from them?

bolaino:
hahahaha, this shows you do not know anything about Your Jewish god, your jewish god is blood thirsty vampire god. YHWH the bloodsucker.

When I give up on life, I will start engaging pea-brain Negros

italo:
But you also called them living saints. Why do you bury them?

Because they are in EVERY way as alive as you are you fool. These are living Christians not dead men. You are the one who claimed they are dead men in heaven WITHOUT any basis for that.

italo:
Here are pentecostals eating snakes demons.

Same thing you complain about.

Those are deluded.
Is a Catholic who prays to be possessed by Virgin Mary equally deluded?

This prayer was invented by your infallible pope. Do you pray it?

Are you possessed by the Virgin as you type italo?

Who is typing here, is it italo or Virgin Mary?

italo, why do you bury your dead seeing they are living saints?

italo:
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There is also communication with saints.

Why are you digressing...back to pentecostal condemning and copying catholics.

Ret@rd
How is prophecy necromancy?
Remember Adeboye never claimed to have talked to the dead unlike your demon possessed religion condones

italo:
No. He took it to your bedroom.

Heb12:22-24 shoes that we access God, his city, the heavenly Jerusalem, Jesus, angels,saints.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.


You said the bold.

When did Jesus take his blood to heaven?

Am asking according to Catholicism, when did God abrogate his laws on necromancy?

italo:
https://www.naij.com/352163-pastor-enoch-adeboye-reveals-2015-prophecies.html

So is he and other pentecostals evil for being soothsayers?

Dodge again!

There is a gift of prophecy you bloody idiot. Why are you digressing? Back to Carholic satanism

Here are Cathlics invoking demons to possess them

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

italo:
Ah! No! The blood in the verse below is in hell.

Heb9:12 - Neither by the blood of goats, or of calves, but by his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.

Jesus took his blood to heaven, right?

And more to the point, which of these verses tell you Necromancy is now legalized ?

italo:
You haven't told me if Adeboye and you are evil for being soothsayers and dream observers...

You're still dodging that.

You should first provide evidence so we can examine it. But satanists like their father are full of lies so I know this is a tall order

Worshipping demons will land you in hell son. Repent

bolaino:
The Sacrifices have already been accepted, and God will sweep away this court case, watch and see.

YHWH does not accept human sacrifices. The god of this world lives for those. So you may have a point

italo:
So now that you are perfect, you're in Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem abi?

Lol

Please read the last part of that verse. Is there blood in heaven?

bolaino:
I have one question for you, Are you a Caucasian?

Guess or go ask TB Joshua

bolaino:
Nigerians should wake up from their slumber, and realize the dangers ahead.

The danger in worshipping a charlatan who watches women defacate

bolaino:
The court has bias towards this case.

TB Joshua must pay for offering 116 human sacrifices

bolaino:
Some Months back, The American Government, via one of it's Numerous Black Ops Programs, succeeded in causing a sift between The Relationship between Two leading African Countries and Economies Namely Nigeria and South Africa, They Bombed a building In the Synagogue Church Of all Nations, because The Prophet, is becoming a threat to Them and Their imperial quest for the balkanization of Africa. And so they decided to set Prophet TB joshua up by Bombing a building that they had surveillance of, knowing that it was housed majorly by south Africans, and Knowing how False flag operations are, The building was bombed and it was hoped by The Americans that The Nigerian Government would criminally prosecute Prophet Tb joshua, but this failed. And that is why they have intentionally caused a wave of Xenophobic attacks in South Africa, hoping That Nigerians would react by Being Xenophobic as well leading to the fulfillment of their own "prophecy" which is, that Nigeria will dis-integrate come 2015, ebola did not work, post election violence did not happen, now why does America think that Xenophobia will destroy Nigeria. Nigeria will stand. God has Said and it is not small America that can change That. I rest My case.

Negro, you have the IQ of a mentally ret@rded and brain-dead orangutan

Did they also conspire to force TB Joshua to forget to get certificates?

italo:
Means reaching living saints is not divination.

You really love your foolishness. Tell me. Samuel who appeared to Saul, was he 'living saint'?

italo:
Made perfect, you mean?

When they get to hell...as you want it to be...

Yet you call others fools

Buffoon, when you come to Christ and your sins are washed away not when you die