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chuna1985:
. India GDP is 7 trillion dollars..

. Unemployment rate in india is under 6%.

. India has gone to mars.

. They have gone to the moon.

.They have the fastest cruise missile in the world.

. 1 dollar is equal to about 50 Indian rupees.

. India power generation is 270 Gigawatts, naija na 4850.

That's a few I can remember.

India ain't moi moi, ehee Indian doctors are just about d best in the world today.

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Really?

Let's ignore weed and propaganda, and focus on FACTS

Of the 300 million households surveyed, an overwhelming majority (73%) live in villages. Of this rural population, less than 5% earn enough to pay taxes, only 2.5% own a 4-wheeler vehicle and less than 10% have salaried jobs.

Not only does rural India have miserable statistics on income and asset ownership, its literacy rates are low. Only 3.5% of students graduate and around 35.7% of residents can't read or write.

Source

If this is what the 'perfect' religion does where it has been practiced for thousands of years, I don't want it

Good evening Amateur Septic(sic)

it's so obvious that I really hate saying it.
It's also so obvious that Hawking, Dawkin and EVERYBODY talks about it.
Sadly, most downplay this for reasons known best to themselves.

Specifically, I want to pick your brains on Multiverse Theory
1. What are your views on this relatively new attempt at explaining away fine-tuning?
2. Do you have alternative spins?

You can start here if multiverse is a vocabulary
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/dec/10-sciences-alternative-to-an-intelligent-creator

chuna1985:
Ur answer suggests we possess information from same website cuz I know that stupidd answer

Cain was the only child of Adam n eve @ that point so he can't be afraid that his unborn sisters n brothers will kill him.

PROVE the highlighted, otherwise you are wasting my precious time and you are definitely not worth my while

chuna1985:
Lol. So who was Cain saying they were gonna kill him wen God banished him

Descendants of Adam

Who did Cain Marry

His sister

chuna1985:
I didn't ask for an answer bro. I said please read up about India @ ur own time

I never said you asked for one nor was I providing one. India is first world

menesheh:
What did existence of sand dune tell you?

Design mustn't be who, until you demonstrate that it must.

Since Sand dune points to natural occurrence, it is still plausible that the universe and its contents may come out of something we don't yet understand.

You are almost there. Think of a Subaru car. Does it 'point to natural occurrence'?
Only deranged m0ron would entertain that idea

Question for you? Show me the designer now as we are talking?

You are jumping gun sir,
Life,of infinitesimally complex design than a Subaru can't possibly exist due to chance. Is this settled ?

Telling me mumbo jumbo stories, of how i should pray to communicate with stuffs i never seen and don't have ways to see, that there is a fairy in the sky, boi no, this is 21st century.

It is 21st century so am wondering how in an age,where infants know Volcanoes don't erupt Subarus, some insist on pure CHANCE as the cause of all.

That's why i told you on my previous comment, it is better for me to be honest to myself and admit that I don't know t than forming Wole Soyinka, claiming to know while on a deeper evaluation, it can't stand the weakest argument.
We shouldn't be arguing here, all of us should see it and know. Both of us know that PMP is the present president of Nigeria, I've never seen two people arguing on that. How come we are arguing now.

Once again, ignorance is good. Back to the Subaru. You may not know WHO brought it here but you would be damned to entertain CHANCE as its cause, right?

chuna1985:
Please go n read about India n stop disgracing urself

Yes, India is first-world

chuna1985:
U said big bang theory is fatally flawed, I said yes that it is true.

I now asked - ""What of the bible account of creation"" is it impeccable or fatally flawed as well

It is 'impeccable'(sic)

chuna1985:
Dont drag dis further. Answer my question first before i answer urs

Which question?

analice107:
Godbless you @Vooks for your encouragement.

Satan dey craze oo. me? I no dey fear am. its not by my power. one with God is with majority.

it wasn't by my power. if it was, that guy would ve had his way, then i would have been wrecked.

Today, this scripture got fulfilled in my life "call upon me in times of trouble and I will deliver thee.
where me I get strength to fight that guy?

Anyone who says there's no God is of the devil

Amen and Amen,
I'm still marveling at how God showed you everything hours before


Your wedding shoes, count that as taken care of no matter the cost

menesheh:
Do you think i know the meaning of big bang. That's why you are confused.

If i could ever come up with big bang explanation, i will explain it with demonstrations and mechanisms i applied to come to such conclusion.

I don't know how we emerged here and how the universe got started, the explanations you (Roman holy book) gave are filled with fallacies and myths on like others of its sorts. So am comfortable that i don't know than pretending to know.


So easy bruh.

While I salute you for pleading ignorance, one thing you can't ignore is that the earth and the universe is well fine tuned for life on earth. So many things pointing to DESIGN. What does existence of design tell you?

pesty100:
I wish I had more but nope

Now that together with abrahamic religions I have added evolution and Big Bang, make your point

Big Bang invented to explain away a godless beginning appeals to fairies known as inflation, dark matter,dark energy....
Its critics are routinely persecuted just as IS is busy fighting enemies of Allah


I could go on

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DESNAT:
HEROES DIARY
W.F. KUMUYI
(1941-Date)
William Folorunso Kumuyi was born on June 9,
1941 into a
Christian family in Erin-Ijesha, Osun State,
Nigeria. He was
born into an Anglican family that knew the Bible
was very
important as the word of God; they would rise up
early in the
morning to sing hymns, read the Bible, and pray.
However,
it was not until he left home to attend high
school in another
part of the region that young W.F. Kumuyi got an
experiential knowledge of who Jesus Christ was,
and what
radical changes He could effect in lives
surrendered to His
lordship.
While teaching mathematics at his alma mater in
1962, after
graduating from high school in 1961, Pastor
Kumuyi was
introduced to the Apostolic Faith Church. He
heard the
Gospel, and believed the word of God on
righteousness,
temperance, judgment to come, and salvation
from sin:
Pastor William Folorunso Kumuyi became born
again on
Sunday, April 5, 1964.
In his early Christian days, as he still does many
good
writers, Pastor Kumuyi read John Wesley, Charles
Finney,
and Charles Spurgeon, among others. He got
involved with
the Scripture Union (SU), and he grew spiritually.
Education
Formal education for Pastor William Kumuyi
started in his
home town; he went on to attend Mayflower
School in
Ikenne, near Ijebu-ode, whence he graduated with
a high
school diploma in 1961. After teaching at his
alma mater for
a brief period, Pastor Kumuyi gained admission to
study
mathematics at Nigeria’s premier institution of
higher
education, the University of Ibadan, obtaining a
first class
degree in 1967.
Pastor Kumuyi went back to teaching
mathematics at
Mayflower School, Ikenne, before going for a
postgraduate
course in education at the University of Lagos,
Lagos,
Nigeria. On the completion of his postgraduate
study
program, Pastor Kumuyi became a lecturer in the
Department of Mathematics at the University of
Lagos in
1973.
Ministry
The Deeper Christian Life Ministry along with its
church arm,
the Deeper Life Bible Church, which now has over
one
million members in more than sixty countries
around the
world, started as a fifteen-member Bible Study
group in
Pastor William Kumuyi’s official quarters (Flat 2)
at the
University of Lagos in August, 1973.
While doing his postgraduate work at the
University of
Lagos, some people who knew Pastor Kumuyi as
a member
of the Scripture Union (SU) would approach him
to ask
questions about the Bible and Christian living.
Some of
these enquirers would come at odd hours, so the
Pastor felt
it was better they gather as a group to study the
Bible, on
Monday evenings in his apartment, instead of
spending so
much time dealing with them as individuals.
Soon enough, the time came when Flat 2 could no
longer
hold the Bible Study participants, so they spilled
outside and
occupied the front of the building. In due course,
as more
people came and the Bible Study Group grew, it
became
necessary in 1976 to find a more commodious
place outside
of the university campus. Because the Group was
non-
denominational, people were happy to come from
various
churches to study with Lecturer Kumuyi, as the
Pastor was
still called at that time. Soon, the Bible Study
Group
membership went over 1,500.
By 1988 the congregation had grown to 50,000,
and now
numbers over 120,000 members, making it the
third largest
Christian church in the world. Dr. Johan
Combrinck reports
that the Deeper Life Bible Church not only has an
attendance of 120,000 every Sunday, but has
planted more
than 500 churches in Lagos, and over 5,000 in the
rest of
Nigeria (with an independent estimate of more
than 800,000
members in Nigeria alone), and 3,000 elsewhere
(with
missionaries to 40 countries of Africa) as the
movement
missionary contribution.
“The history of Deeper Life is very much the
personal story
of W.F. Kumuyi. He is a gifted man, clear-thinking
and
humble. He is a dedicated Christian and deserves
the title
‘the man of God,' which his followers have given
him. Since
he was a young man, Kumuyi has devoted his
time to
reading and studying the Bible. He knows the
Scriptures
inside out, and has deep love for the word of God,
so people
have been drawn to him for advice, or simply to
listen. When
he preaches, his message is clear, simple, and
profound.
Poor street traders who can barely read sit next
to university
professors, all equally captivated by the way
Scripture
becomes suddenly relevant to them.
Pastor Kumuyi's own Christian life developed
because he
took the Bible so seriously, and so the Deeper
Christian Life
Ministry has developed in the same way.
His sermons were captivating. In fact, "I would
classify him
as one of the greatest living preachers, giving a
straightforwardBible-based message, his sermons
thorough, and always personally challenging. He
always
gave a wide range of cross-references which were
read in
their context, supporting, clarifying and expanding
his main
points. He spoke clearly and authoritativelyto the
Nigerian
situation.
A Man With a Great Heart For God!
He is not tall, and does not have a larger-than-lif
e character.
He does not dominate, nor has he accrued power
to himself.
He walks slowly, is relaxed, and has a gentle
sense of
humour with a warm smile and a twinkle in his
eyes. He
dresses simply, eats simply... and... could have
assumed
titles to himself. As the Deeper Christian Life
Ministry
developed - most people enjoy the trappings and
regalia of
status which followers gladly give. But he calls
his followers
brothers and sisters, and treats them as
colleagues.
Kumuyi remarried in October 2010 in London
about 18
months after the death of his first.

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Deere Life is where Pharisees are born and raised

pesty100:
nope the biggest myth is how you got to be so fcked up

Is that all you got?

plaetton:
Lol.
The way of the intellectually vacous.

Again, fails to address or even attempt to refute one single point on the thread.
Rather, as we have all grown accustomed to, throws an ad hominem.

I am greatly disappointed.
Really.
For some strange reasons, I used to actually think that though misguided, you had some intellectual girth.

Serves me right for my unrelenting optimism.

Wassup my Amateur Septic(sic) boy.
You are running short if vocabularies

analice107:
Hello brethren. its me Anas09 with another Moniker. ANAS makes folk think am a man. I decided to get another Moniker. so guys, welcome Analice into the fold. lol

I have been struggling whether to share this or not. But I'll share it to Satan's shame.

last night I had a dream where a guy i know very well tried to rape and disgrace me.

The dream went like this. I had my bath and was tying a towel when without knocking someone entered the room I was, and pounced on me, and tried to have sex with me. He tried to overpower me. I resisted him strongly. when he didn't succeed, he dragged me out of my house with the intention of leaving me naked. l fought very hard and prevailed.

I woke up this morning and prayed against any satanic harassment.

brethren. about 11am today.
I got a call from an old friend. someone who knows am born again and does not indulge in sex activities. when we met, he wanted a relationship, but I made my stance clear. I am a Bible believing christian.
I told him I made a pact with God, never to sexually defile my body again.

He left me alone, and we have been very good friends without any issue since. this was like three years ago.

today, he called and asked if I was at home that he was in my neighbourhood? I said yes, without feeling anything could go wrong.

I went abt. my chores. I even forgot everything about him. wen I was done, I took my bath. as I stepped from my bathroom into my main room, he had entered the house (I forgot to lock the protector up) so we entered the room the same time. I was only tying a towel.

I moved in side in inner room, he followed me. this man grabbed me. this man had played basket ball before, so imagine his size.
he is tall and big. if he wants to carry me on his shoulder, I'll be like a baby.


He grabbed me and threw me on the bed. MY GOOOOD. I was going to be raped in my house, in broad day light?
the dream came back to me like a flood.
I tried to fight him, he was just too big and strong for me.
At this point, I knew I needed help. I cried out to God. I said God am keeping my body for you, not becos I won't want to do sex or I don't enjoy sex, but my love for you restrains me. my body is yours so help me from this animal. he was vibrating like he had be starved for years. I cried out loud.

I was actually crying tears and speaking out to his hearing. all of a sudden, as if he recovered from something. he got up from me. and I guess he was ashamed of himself. he left my house.
God helped me that guy didn't enter me. i have been without a man for years, for a man to forcefully... Jesus NO.

praise God, once again Satan failed.

am suppose to go for home cell now, but I can't becos in the course of struggling with him, I sprained my knee. I can't walk well.

you see, what we are doing here, you may think its a joke. Satan doesn't like it. we are exposing him. watchout for attacks, for they will come.

I thank God for showing me things before they happens.

Anas09,
You are one of the most remarkable monikers I have met on NL. That's why I always listen when you speak. Praise be to Jesus Christ for delivering you from a real strongman

chuna1985:
I dont get ur question. Ease answer mine n rephrase urs

Where did the universe come from?

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menesheh:
Myth
Superstition
Fiction
Fairy
Delusion


1. MYTH A traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature - Wikipedia

All religion are guilty of this especially the three Abrahamic religion


2. SUPERSTITION is the belief in supernatural causality—that one event causes another without any natural process linking the two events—such as astrology and certain aspects linked to religion, like omens, witchcraft and prophecies, that contradict natural science - Wikipedia

All religion are guilty of this.


3. FICTION describes people, places, events, or complete narrative works derived from imagination, in addition to, or rather than, from history or fact - Wikipedia

All religion are guilty of this.


4. FAIRY is a type of mythical being or legendary creature in European folklore, a form of spirit, often described as metaphysical, supernatural, or preternatural - Wikipedia

All religion are guilty of this.


5. DELUSION is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception - Wikipedia

All religion are guilty of this.


Here for bash, get off the thread.

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The biggest mythology of all times is the one that tells you that once upon a time NOTHING decided to form something (Big Bang). This something later by billions of random accidents made man (Evolution)

chuna1985:
Yes, fatally flawed.

What of the bible account of creation?

Educate me on the more sensible and intelligent if these;
'In the beginning, DIRT..'
'In the beginning, GOD...'

chuna1985:
In the bible, Jesus saw some people n healed dem because he had compassion for dem, he didn't need their faith.

Peter healed the lame man at the gate without his(the man) faith required

SirWere:
What makes me laugh whenever christians flog the Big Bang Theory is that it was a christian, catholic to be precise, who first propounded it.



The also forget that it was a christian,named Leakey who provided evidences of evolution in court.

Let me watch in 7D sha....... After I know nothing, abi

Big Bang is dead and it is not Christians' fault

chuna1985:
Bible account of creation nko

Big Bang is fatally flawed

plaetton:
Gosh!

Engaging with you really really pains me. Seriously.

It is both funny and painful.

Funny that you are soooo unabashed about displaying your complex idiocy, your lack of comprehension, your inability to ACTUALLY post a coherent argument without jumping from one ad hominem to another.

Now, let me ask you:
Before you made reference to China above, did you really understand my post that you were referring to ?
I doubt that you did.
Otherwise, any idi.ot would know that China , a growing economic, scientific and geopolical superpower, does not stuff her young children with any religious junk.
Gosh!
How stuuuuupid can you be to advertise your shallowness on the front page?

Young boy, Amateur Septic(sic)
How is your Saturday coming?

chuna1985:
Yes

So faith is not a prerequisite for miracles

dammyconcept:
Then What Did He Suppost To Do? Then Do U Support How The Man Is Preaching Inside Bus

Let them alone, stop preaching

plaetton:
Moro.n,
Back to your usual ad hominems.

So , all you could read from my post are the words " billionaire and billions" ?

See?

Once again, you're incapable of simple comprehension, let alone articulating a coherent and robust argument on any issue, except , of course , for your windbag of foul mouth .

Tufiakwa!

Amateur Septic(sic)
I have just punched holes into your incoherent rant.
What value have you added to this world?

Ps
Sowing your wild oats does not count

plaetton:
Why not.

Tokumbo Religion has sapped much the our national IQ, robbed us of our rational faculties, obliterated scientific curiosity, and fragmented our realities to point where we are much more superstitious than our great great grandparents.

It is a pity that you and others are unable to draw parallels between the amount of religious junk in our minds, in our society, and our perennial underachievement and FAILED STATE status.

China is rising and they are the furthest from atheism. You are making up a spurious inverse correlation between religion and quality of life to justify your nitwit atheism which you barely understand.

I aksd you what you have INVENTED yourself other than perfecting he art of trolling and spamming threads with nonsensical recycled antitheism rants.( Were you abused by a priest? ) Are you worth more than the stainless steel urn hat will bear your ashes after we cremate you?

plaetton:
Lol.

You mean you cannot figure out how primitive worldviews render populations economic refugees ?

Are you that daft?

The very fact you asked this question is, in itself, the answer.

If I do indulge you, would you be humble enough to admit that you are one such moro.n with a primitive worldview ?

Amateur Septic(sic)
Make my day
Tell me how atheism has made you a billionaire and made the billions in this world dirt poor

iameugene:
Am not really a religious person.. But after reasoning the story about genesis, I came into conclusions about the religious belief and scientific belief

Religions In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. I will stop here

Science The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the Universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale evolution.[1][2][3] The model accounts for the fact that the Universe expanded from a very high density and high temperature state,[4][5] and offers a comprehensive explanation for a broad range of phenomena, including the abundance of light elements, the cosmic microwave background, large scale structure and Hubble's Law.[6] If the known laws of physics are extrapolated beyond where they are valid, there is a singularity. Modern measurements place this moment at approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the age of the Universe.[7] After the initial expansion, the Universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, and later simple atoms. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies.

Thus the bing bang theory is just the scientific explanation of Genesis... I believe the bing bang occurred due to the saying of the God when he said "let there be light" and everything started happening like that.. If you are to check this you see it both corresponds, and the genesis story came before the scientific reasoning for big bang theory.

This means God created the universe, scientists just explained better

Big Bang is increasingly being rejected because it is a ret@rded asinine theory based on initial UNPROVABLE assumptions of among others inflation

https://web.archive.org/web/20140401081546/http://cosmologystatement.org/

plaetton:
Funny thing is that the same slowpoke would have lied to his teeth to get UK visa, lied to his teeth to claim refugee status, lied to his teeth to get immigration and other government documents or IDs , and may probably lie to his teeth to be on the dole.

Then he hops on a bus and starts preaching , making no connections between his own moral shortcomings and the crap he thinks he is preaching.

I just wonder how someone from a certified FAILED STATE can run and lie his way to a Better , Working Society, then starts telling the people , on whose benevolence he depends, that they should adopt his primitive worldview , , .same primitive worldview that renders him an economic refugee.

I always amazes me when I see third world economic refugees( particularly Nigerians) , hawking Stone-age myths to the modern citizens of their benefactor nations.

Religion is Stuuuuupid.

M0ron,
How did his 'primitive worldview' render him an 'economic refugee'?

dammyconcept:
How Will The Preacher Dust Off His Shoe In U.K when there is no sand on the ground?

It's a metaphor for 'have nothing more to do with them'

You can't force them to listen. You should be cordial even when handling the word of truth