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Anas09,
Is this an accurate summary of your position?

That Adam lived for billions of years during which he was ageless before falling after which he started aging as recorded in Genesis?

Anas09:
Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

Amen to that
I was once carried away by TB Joshua beginning last year when a Malaysian jet #MH370 disappeared. I stumbled into a prophecy TB had released claiming it was fulfilled. I happily shared it with others. I later came to learn about his other prophecies fulfilled and I marveled at the stunning accuracy.

That was until some aspects of the jet failed to add up. He claimed To be the only person in the world shown where the jet was and had the Malaysian government requested him, he'd have gone and shown them where the jet was!!!

TB Joshua is a serial charlatan who dispenses countless and wild prophecies based on probabilities. Some will ultimately turn right.

I questioned the need for revealing these to him if despite the prayers the evil still happens. The guy milks tragedy to elevate himself i gathered.
There is an excellent site dedicated to outing him
https://tbjoshuawatch.

Many have been delivered from the cultic bondage of SCOAN.

Now, why are Negroes terrified of criticizing ministers? It has to do with our tradition of honoring the medicinemen and traditional healers. These are guys you couldn't look in the face. This is carried over into Christianity and Pentecostalism, and is why believers tolerate so much nonsense from the pulpit lest Gof strikes them death. The result is ministers are given a blank check for impunity.

Cults and abusive groups exploit this to the max. Their leaders can never be questioned as doing so is confronting God. There is a book on this subject which I shared on his thread;
https://www.nairaland.com/2676167/churches-abuse

CharlyG1:
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.


I remember once when I was saying negative things about my former church. These things I was saying, I experienced them, I was there when these things happened so I wasn't lying in anyway.
The church made so many mistakes and treated some members quite unfairly.
Out of anger and hurt, I blurted out telling some people(including the members) what the church had done, how they hurt some of their members and disgrace them publicly. I was never hurt by the church directly, but people i was close to were the victims here and so this hurt me greatly.

I always discouraged people from going to that church and I said negative things about the church.
I never knew my actions were wrong, because to me afterall, the church was wrong & the church is still wrong because it's still happening and many members are leaving.
But the way we see things isn't the way God does.


One night, God came to me in a vision & showed me what my actions was causing that church. He showed me how it was tearing the church apart even more. He let me know I was wrong. Even though the church had made mistakes, I had no authority to castigate the church, thereby discouraging people & spoiling the name of the church (the people of God). He let me know the pastor of that church is actually called by Him, though the pastor has weaknesses as a man, and the church was growing slowly, I was still standing in the wrong position. I was wrong.
God was warning me!

After that revelation.. I never again castigated the church or anyone doing the work of Jesus Christ. Whether the person is fake or not, I leave it to God to judge the person. It is dangerous to insult a Prophet or Prophetess of God or even a Church belonging to God.
I remember how Elisha cursed some children(in the Name of the Lord) and two bears came up and killed 42 of those kids just because the children insulted him saying to him 'Go up, Bald Head'(II Kings 2:23).. If Elisha was wrong, why would God honour his word?

We must be careful how we speak of God's people. Later some people would start looking for the source & solution to their new problem. I pray it isn't so if your repent.

So pls keep the fake or real man/woman of God to yourself & Let God be the judge.

Thank you.. God bless you all!

All his and you never hesitated to tell us how you ran into some occult pastor. Interesting!

Themandator:
Thank you, jare.... People promoting their limited knowledge as scholarly finds

And being obstinate when called out

plaetton:
Lol.

The thrust of the articles still eludes you.

See what I mean, little thick-headed brother ?

Just keep your little mouth shut more often, and watch me more often.

However, keep up the fight against fraudulent Christianity and the Men Of Guile (MOG) that perpetuate it.

Christmas is not Christmas

macof:
so morality can only exist in christianity? Is that what you're saying?

It means atheism has zero basis for morality and also atheists are hypocrites for subscribing to morality which is not offers by their belief system

PastorAIO:
No it wasn't. It was consulting a witch.

It was necromancy. You think God would have given him a pass had the witch made him coffee

mayorall:
My friend , please concentrate and stop insults.

No man can be greater than the amount of light available to man. At God's sight, thousands of years are just like yesterday says David in the book of Psalm. Look things from God's perspective cos we are his sons. This is why Jesus told peter, " Satan get behind me" when he refused to see things the way God is seeing it.


Immortal issue.


Yes, I am immortal, I can never die, I can never be tired, I can never be seek. He told me in his word. " I will strengthen your weakness". Academically he will take over from my weakness, financially he will take over my weakness. Back to topic.

Elephant begat elephant

Lion begat lion.

God begat gods.

psalm 82vs 6


I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.

Jesus confirmed it. see below

John 10vs 34

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I
said, Ye are gods?


Can God die, No, can God be sick?, NO, So as gods.


I'm immotal cos I have everlasting life, I can't die. see what John 3 vs 16 has to say.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have everlasting life.


We are not of this world as a child of God. See this, happening here now.

John 15:19 - If ye were of the world, the world would
love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I
have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world
hateth you.





This is very useful to you my friend


Romans 12:2 - And be not conformed to this world: but
be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye
may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and
perfect, will of God.

I have asked you a simple question and you can't answer.

1 Corinthians 15 the resurrection chapter. What is the purpose of resurrection seeing you are already immortal?

plaetton:
Lol.

Your comprehension skills are obviously wanting.

Again, unable to articulate a robust argument to refute the article.

Christmas is pagan so dropping the name or banning the holiday does not affect Chriatianity at all

ccollins:
good point sir but still depends on circumstances, the book; he came to set the captives free was not to learn about dark arts but about testimony of one involved in occultism before and that's the old man.. it's not to say Rebecca and Elaine who was delivered are obsessed about it and go every day preaching about it in churches... I told you people who apostle paul delivered in bible from witchcraft, did they not have a past in it before they are called to repentance by God. I have examined Rebecca brown teachings even apart from her books, she emphasizes on holiness, and uses the Bible alot in her preachings. if she is a fraud as she is mocked, is she supposed to be encouraging Christians to have a fellowship with Holy Spirit and stop meeting her to ask God what he says concerning there life and all sundry. we need to be careful of accusing people, you know appolon in Bible was magnificent in Bible but didn't acknowledge or was ignorant of the power there of which the disciples corrected him that Jesus is Christ. rebecca never compromises on God word if you know her very well and she doesn't preach prosperity sermons like most end- time churches are doing

You are really hurting that your pet teacher Rebeccah lied severally and there is irrefutable evidence which unfortunately you are too scared to look at.

She may not preach prosperity but that does not make her doctrine right. Catholics don't preach prosperity but we know their doctrine fails on OTHER levels.

I was once in your shoes; ready to defend her at all costs till I realized she wrote a lot of sensational garbage full of lies. Christ did not call me to defend deception. The father of lies is Satan

I rejoice in the Lord for fearless brethren who rose above her threats and EXPOSED her lies for all and sundry
http://www.watchthetower.net/brown.html

He who had an ear let him hear what he Spirit is saying

oyeludef:
There is a clear cut difference btw avoiding error and persecuting a man of God.no where in d scripture did Jesus or His apostles seek for d dark knowlege of a delivered convert. Lets not allow our curiosity make us grieve d Holy Spirit. In dat day some will say didnt we cast out devils in your name? Christ will say i know you not ye workers of iniquity. No one knows the ways of God but the Spirit of God. Even angels learn about God by watching God's dealing with d church(eph3:10). The Holy Spirit has the sole responsibility to guide His church into all truth. I will also advise us to stick with d 66 books of d bible. Angels were so common during d early church days in d book of Acts but nowhere did we see the church socializing wit dem nd asking questions. D Holy Spirit doesnt just enable u speak in tongues He fellowships wit us. How was satan able to deceive 1/3 of angels? Satan's subjects r captives to his will nd so he keeps them dat way by making dem believe lies. These lies r wat witches know and dey need to unlearn it not us learning from dem. Satan is a liar and d father of it. Where the Holy Spirit is there is liberty cos who Christ sets free is free indeed. Stick with the Holy Spirit and His inspired word. Shalom

You are right sir,
The moment you derive your beliefs outside the scriptures you open yourself up to deception because you have no yardstick.

Rebecca Brown and her husband were caught lying severally. This in itself casts aspersions on their pet claims.

I know human especially Negro curiosity as far as occult and the spiritual realm will never be quenched so these books will always find itchy ears. For these, the scriptures are never enough

When you can quote chunks of occult literature better than scriptures, know you are obsessed

I look at TB Joshua deliverance clips on YouTube and they have high hits whereas the lifesaving nisort is given a wide berth

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asco15:
Apparently the White House referred to
Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first
time this year, which prompted Ben Stein, to
say, on CBS Sunday Morning,
My confession: I am a Jew, and every single
one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does
not bother me even a little bit when people
call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees,
Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I
don't feel discriminated against. That's what
they are, Christmas trees.
It doesn't bother me a bit when people say,
'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are
slighting me or getting ready to put me in a
ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that
we are all brothers and sisters celebrating
this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me
at all that there is a manger scene on display
at a key intersection near my beach house in
Malibu. If people want a nativity scene, it's
just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few
hundred yards away.
I don't like getting pushed around for being a
Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting
pushed around for being Christians. I think
people who believe in God are sick and tired
of getting pushed around, period. I have no
idea where the concept came from, that
America is an explicitly atheist country. I
can't find it in the Constitution and I don't
like it being shoved down my throat.
Or maybe I can put it another way: where did
the idea come from that we should worship
celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship
God? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting
old, too. But there are a lot of us who are
wondering where these celebrities came from
and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one
another for a laugh, this is a little different:
This is not intended to be a joke; it's not
funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on
the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her
'How could God let something like this
happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne
Graham gave an extremely profound and
insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is
deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but
for years we've been telling God to get out of
our schools, to get out of our government
and to get out of our lives.And being the
gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly
backed out. How can we expect God to give
us His blessing and His protection if we
demand He leave us alone?'
In light of recent events... terrorist attacks,
school shootings, etc. I think it started when
Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
her body found a few years ago) complained
she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we
said OK. Then someone said you better not
read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou
shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love
your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't
spank our children when they misbehave,
because their little personalities would be
warped and we might damage their self-
esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).
We said an expert should know what he's
talking about. And we said okay.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children
have no conscience, why they don't know
right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother
them to kill strangers, their classmates, and
themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard
enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a
great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE
SOW.'
Funny how simple it is for people to trash
God and then wonder why the world's going
to hell.
Funny how we believe what the newspapers
say, but question what the Bible says.
Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-
mail and they spread like wildfire, but when
you start sending messages regarding the
Lord, people think twice about sharing.
Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene
articles pass freely through cyberspace, but
public discussion of God is suppressed in the
school and workplace.
Are you laughing yet?
Funny how when you forward this message,
you will not send it to many on your address
list because you're not sure what they believe,
or what they will think of you for sending it.
Funny how we can be more worried about
what other people think of us than what God
thinks of us.
Pass it on if you think it has merit.
If not, then just discard it.... no one will know
you did. But, if you discard this thought
process, don't sit back and complain about
what a bad shape the world is in.
My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,
-Ben Stein

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He tree has nothing to do with Christianity so I don't understand the whining

Anas09:
@zeongeon.
I had this discussion with a friend sometime ago. He insists that, as at wen satan disguised as the serpent and caused man to Fall in Eden, he(satan) had not yet Fallen out with God. because, according to him, its in revelation we see satan being cast down to earth by Michael.
This is exactly what you are saying here.

@Vooks asked you, if you say Satan was ruling in Eden along side Adam, that will invariably mean, there were two Captains in Eden? And the Bible didn't say that.

My questions.
1. If lucifer was in Eden ruling, Who was he reign over at that time. Definitely not fellow angels, and according to you, adam had not been created yet (?)

2. If as at when Lucifer provoked Man to rebel agaisnt God's Instructions, Lucifer was still upright, in right standing with God, why then will he want to beguile man to sin against God?
Why will I want to instigate ur son to turn against you if I don't have an animosity against you?

With regards to Ezekiel 28. Yes, satan was in Eden, but not as Lucifer.
Yes its in Ezekiel we were told who lucifer was before his fall. Lucifer didn't fall in Eden or from Eden. He fell from heaven, he didn't land in Eden when he fell. He only went to Eden to beguile man.

I have a funny theory of why Satan may have beguiled man to sin against God.

Pls join me in my stupidity. I think, Lucifer must have put everything into consideration before the revolution. I mean, his perfection, power of Wisdom, prowess in Music. The kind of Repect and authority he commanded among some of the Angels (I mean, the guy took 2/3 of the Angels population with him). He probably had thought that if he fails to overthrow the Only Potentate, he can as well create his own 'whatever' Earth? But after everything, he found him in this void, full of darkness, without the wherewithal to create shit.
Well, I think, the Other Angels must have accosted him and demanded for what he promised them. I mean, I can't give up my Angelic splendor for the Demon's for nothing.
Here two things will have to play out, and that will depend on what will be the outcome of his clandestine meeting with this unique Creature with his beautiful guilible wife, in their little garden. Doourr.
*rolls eyes*
Well, Satan must have told his Minions, I'll go up to that fair one there and see. If I get them to do the exact thing we did, which got us in this shit, who knows? Yahwey could forgive, if he forgives them, and why not? He shd be able to forgive us too, afterall He is a Merciful God right? then, we'll all go back to heaven, but if not, we'll take over the earth and rule it. I'll make all of you Kings of the Nations of Men. shey I promised you guys that you'all will be gods? Just watch.
* satan walks out with a regal gait towards Eden*

So satan rolled out his Schemes and smoothly presented himself to Eve, who had lived in Eden for God knows how long, and never saw an animal spoke with the human voice.
Man's problem actually started if u ask me, after the Fall. Becos God forgave Man for committing the same sin lucifer committed, (which is infringing on the sovereignty of God), but went further to even Curse the creature whose body satan borrowed. Hmm. For man, the earth was cursed instead of Man. For this stupid woman, God only pronounced a meagre Childbirth Pangs. As if that's not enough, He gave a prophecy that the seed of this same woman will crush his head? Haba.

From that day, since Satan can't reach God, he decide to drag Man, the so beloved of God to the same hell God created for him, by way of spitting God more.
This is my little theory.
So I believe Satan visited Eden only to pull Adam down with him or get restored back to glory.

As to how old the Earth is @Mayoall. I know how old Adam was before he died after he sinned, and I agree with the Bible on the 6000yrs span.
My ish is not how long Adam lived AFTER THE FALL. Am interested in before the FALL
My questions has been, Since Man didn't age untill THE FALL, what about the animals, were they also Ageless? Didn't the animals die?
If the Yrs Adam lived without Time tick tucking against him, couldn't that mean that Millions of Yrs Must have passed and the Mamoths and Dinosaurs Got extinct before the Fall.
I don't believe the Monsters were buried in the flood, because accoding to the scriptures, the clean animals Noah took in seven Pairs each, the unclean (even the Unclean were spared) were taken in by two pairs each.
This is just reasoning.
@Vooks pls help reason with me.

I will shortly explain why I believe your reasoning is faulty

Dekatron:
Lol



The M'fucker should admit hell is loading for him. . . . If I like, I wll say FOOL to anybody without thinking of one BORED OLD MAN that will put me in hell, knowing I was destined to go to hell, though he created me, knowing that he is omnipotent & couldn't change me from going to hell & had to kill his son, sorry, Himself . . . Did you understand all those B.S?? Isn't it crazy & meaningless??

You are a fool and in danger of hellfire. Repent and turn to Christ

Teempakguy:
I ask a question here.

If a christian can be forgiven for calling someone a fool under grace, then does it not follow that a christian can be forgiven for killing someone under the same grace?

The same bible says that merely thinking of sex or how sexy a woman is, amounts to sin and will be punished. yet, most Nigerian Christians don't care about these verses as they eagerly click on tonto dike and toolz threads on the front page, why do they think it's okay to break these verses and be saved under grace, but are very violent when it is suggested that things like homosexuality can also pass? or are some sins bigger than others?

this is the height of hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty. the fact that they are still raising the morality issue is a testament to their stupidity. 68% of the world's population is not christian. 16% is not religious. if our morality did come from God, then why hasn't the human race destroyed itself since a large percentage of the same race does not acknowledge this God?

Statistics
Because a very small fraction are atheistic. And of hose few who are, they are hypocrites in that they subscribe to a moral code yet their atheistic philosophy has no room for morality

mayorall:
My friend , read that chapter from the beginning, it is David's lamentation due to their sins. This your fact can even be disputed without bible. My great grand father died at 105 in 2007. Google will be of help so you can see people at 110 years that are still alive.


Now hear God's word from 1kings 3vs14


"If you walk in My ways, keeping My statutes and
commandments, as your father David walked, then I will
prolong your days."



Moreover I can never die. I am immortal , I am gods.

Abraham was in his OLD AGE at 100 so whether he lived another 2000 years is irrelevant. He had visions when Holy Spirit calls him old and according to your theories old men ought to be dreaming.

Immortal? Utter foolishness. Why then do Christians look forward to resurrection seeing they are immortal?

Kid, that language I have heard with Christ Embassy hooligans. Read 1 Corinthians 15 and revert

PastorAIO:
Whatever it was, I'm sure it wasn't a misunderstanding and misuse of the word Semantics.

It was chatting with the dead

mayorall:
My brother. If this is to be my personal business, I would have abandoned you and give no replies. But I couldn't cos it's my father's in heaven business.

Genesis 25 vs 7.

And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life
which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.

Abraham lived 175 years.

Are you saying he was old at 75years and lived 100years as his old age?.

If you were any wiser, you would have quoted Noah. He lived far much longer.

Here is some wisdom for you;
Before the flood, men lived for centuries with Methuselah outdoing everyone else.

After the flood, there was a sharp decline in the lifespan of men following God's decree;
Genesis 6:3 (ESV)
3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.


Assignment for you; how long did Isaac and Jacob live?

As you move away from the Flood, the lifespan shrinks so much that by the time we get to Psalms, the average lifespan of man is 70

Psalm 90:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years,

If you are fantasizing about clocking 175years my broda, you are deluded. I can without fear of contradiction tell you that even if you prayed and fasted forever and lived sin-free from now, you won't see 100


About Abraham and your question;
Genesis 21:2 (ESV)
2 And Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age at the time of which God had spoken to him

Genesis 21:5 (ESV)
5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him



Is any of this unclear?

postmann:
my brother,

Your first question has no reply from me

'New things" never denote things outside scriptures. But news things as I meant it, shed more light and further revelations into what scripture has already hinted.
John 16:12 has our SAVIOUR saying there was SO MUCH MORE HE wanted to tell HIS disciples which they couldn't bore then. But that the HOLY SPIRIT will guide them into all truth.

So instead of outrightly condemning another brother's work, kindly direct them to seek the HOLY SPIRIT who is available to them.

The SPIRIT of GOD does not thrive in arguments or debates. arguments and debates stem from the spirit of man, influence by Satan to promote self and not GOD.
This is ALL I have to say on this issue.
Thanks.

The NEW things are what you find in the New Testament not stuff outside bro. Recall when Jesus spoke these there was no New Testament.

It is every cultist dream to speak unopposed. Enough said

mayorall:
oh my God. I wept seeing this comment deep inside me. What makes Abraham to see visions at 75, What made John to see visions at 95 tells me am still young at 100. Satan hear the word of God am not permitted to die at my young age.

sobs. Father please illuminate his mind which is the seat of your divine wisdom. Open his eye to see great and mighty things. Show him your plans towards him.


How old was Abraham when he had Isaac,

The mentality we put on our mind is destroying us.


dieing at 75 years isn't God's plan for me and you. Don't let our environment limit us.


The Bible said we work in Faith, not by sight.

oyeludef, he is cornered and busy concocting doctrines to prop his theories instead of humbly conceding errors. Next he will blabber that young or old is not physical but spiritual

Can mayorall DEFINE for us OLD men according to scriptures because he is insinuating Abraham at 75 and John at 95 were 'young'

He should also tell us the right age which is God's plan for a Christian to die

DoubleDeeX:
You just called me a fool? Pride Smh!!! That's why the spirit of truth would never be able to live in you. Humble yourself before God and make spiritual enquiries before spewing ignorance...

Stop analyzing the word of God with human wisdom and philosophy; go spiritual in humility and honesty through fasting and prayers and you will find answers!

I'm not that type of Branham's follower; I don't worship the man, but I say the truth when I confirm it in the holy ghost. The man's teachings are all biblical and true. So, stop shouting and go spiritual; trust me, your human knowledge and study has failed in this one.

Even the staunchest Branhamites know his teachings were full of bullsh*t. It's unfortunate that after prayer and fasting and humility you are still blind to his errors. Read the book I have shared. They say he best place to hide stuff from Negroes is books. Don't live up to that cliche

And you never answered me. What spirit gave you a ten year timeline for Jesus return, surely not he Spirit of Christ because He would never contradict Jeaus Christ

Ganjafama:
I know you must be very happy now.

Very happy
1. I have lost faith in the justice system and prosecution of the mighty is about to restore that
2. Reckless and lethal greed is about to be punished
3. Ministers always imagine they are super men and this debunks that as well
4. The 116 families that lost heir members in the cruelest way are about to get a reprieve

oyeludef:
bros you just destroyed ur theory ooo. John was a old man wen he wrote d book of revelation

Good job demolishing empty theories. I like the fact that you have already quoted him so he can't go back and edit his answer

mayorall:
Wow. Good follower of Christ that insults. i love you anyway. Don't bother to quote. Thanks

Welcome and have a good evening.
I know you are startled that I caught you lying that you have just downloaded these things from the Spirit. That is just about as fantastic as receiving blueprints for making a smartphone as you fast.

Think slowly through the wisdom I have shared and you will hopefully be humble enough to dump that bunk you are busy propagating.

God bless you my broda.


Ps
I love you with he love of Christ. If I didn't, I'd look the other way as you wallowed in deception and erro

postmann:
My brother, I have read Rebecca Brown's UNBROKEN CURSES and one other of her book that talked about the deliverance of a top witch.
For those who are called into deliverance ministry and who are blessed with discernment and wisdom, they find her book very helpful and insightful.
Myself inclusive. There are a lot of things about demonic activities that are unknown to the average Christian. The HOLY SPIRIT has been teaching new things since HE was sent down to earth with the truth.

Now supposing Rebecca Brown was a pack of fraud, a Christian whose utterances are ordered by the HOLY SPIRIT, whose life is a manifestation of the fruits of the HOLY SPIRIT, is very slow to call a fellow brother out or denounce their works. A SPIRIT filled Christian takes a different approach from outright condemnation.
You might find yourself on the wrong side of GOD's judgement.
If you feel that she's a pack of lies, then gently ask any Christian WHO SEEK YOUR OPINION ON THE MATTER to be careful and pray for GOD's guidance.

But please be careful how you call other Christians out with their works. The devil thrives with such practices. He loves it.

1. Can I assume that you don't consider yourself 'average Christian?
2. Can I assume that Holy Spirit has been teaching things OUTSIDE the Holy Scriptures and these are the ones you deem 'new'?
3. On what basis do you judge/discern these 'new' extrabiblical revelations you have been privileged to learn?

May he rot in jail till he repents of his heinous murders of the 116 gullible fools

DoubleDeeX:
LOL...if you have a little measure of the holy spirit you wouldn't have said that. Branham was a true messenger of God sent to the gentiles in this age. Humble yourself before God and make enquiries from God before making ignorant statements.

Don't worry, very soon when Christ rapture his bride, we shall know who the charlatans are! Less than 10 years from now it will be clear as day.

Here comes another Branhamite
I have studied the man at length and I know he never made innocent errors but was a son of Belial from hell. He taught serpent seed, lied about his prophecies, halos and the cloud. He was a polished but illiterate crook. Fools like you who fell for him thought he would resurrect on Easter 1965

Tell me, who told you Jesus is coming in less than ten years from now? What spirit is that which contradicts Jesus',Paul's and Peter's words that NOBODY knows the time?

mayorall:
Funny vooks


I only asked you a question sighting examples. Old and young.

How does stoning a prostitute related to the peoples sin?. I hope you know that story.


Disputing that verse of the bible is equal God is lying. That's his straight word, not they said.

I have been a believer for a few decades and I have heard a lot of nonsense including what you are peddling here as fresh revelation on Acts 2 before my broda.

The reason I asked hat question is to demonstrate the folly of extreme literalism and arguments from silence

You claimed women will have visions in their youth and dreams in their old age and the verse CLEARLY states young men and old men have visions and dreams and visions respectively. You have no answer for that because I caught you red handed making ASSUMPTIONS. You are ASSUMING that whatever applies to men applies to women. This is fine with me. But why should you ASSUME that what applies to older men can't apply to younger men? Do you see how inconsistent you are in your 'revelations'?

Most likely you are quoting your popular MoG who preached this nonsense so powerfully that you swallowed it hook, line and sinker I have been here bro. Think for yourself and pray before regurgitating wisdom of men.

Throughout scriptures, God has given visions and dreams to men old and young without any regard to their ages. WHY would it suddenly be inappropriate to entrust dreams with young men it visions with older men?

mayorall:
When they are young, they are to only see visions, anything of dream at young age is of the devil.


When they become old, they are to dream dreams as said by the Lord of host.


Can a woman of 75years see his period?.

Can a baby of 6 months old have a baby?.

The verse ONLY mentions young and old MEN as far as visions and dreams are concerned. Why do you ASSUME it applies to women when he same is not written?

mayorall:
You want me to explain the verse right?.

Yes. After the manifestation of the Holy spirit, young men is only permitted to see visions while hold men dreams.


Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:

The verse says only young and old men. Do women dream or have visions?

mayorall:
Vooks please . This is not my assumption . This verse of the bible is straightforward and very clear. How is God's word my assumption? . This is all about the manifestations of the Holy spirit.
Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:

It is your interpretation on trial here not scriptures.

Question
Can young and old women have visions and dreams respectively?

oyeludef:
does dat also mean d old men shouldn't see visions?

mayorall,
As usual, cherry picking verses is a sure way to land in error.

Your assumption is what is described of one group can't be experienced by another group and vice versa

Does it mean that young and old women can't have vision or dreams?