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Dekatron:




What is he saying?



I am talking about you. . . . You are in damnation of Hell for saying somebody is a fool. . Who is talking about something that is dead or something??

Foolishness is inexcusable bro

jigabanty:
If u can't back up ur speech with the WORD OF GOD(bible reference), then ur speech is not from GOD

Very true, especially when the speech is directed at Christians and aimed at CORRECTING them

Highcuerayte:
Corrections you say? They are not bro.

You said Praise is not worship, didn't you? Ask yourself why is mr vooks not asking you for Scriptures to back it up why he asked me for it. Could it mean Mr Vooks believes you without the Scriptures?

Think about it bro, i believe you are a wise person. I won't say more than that.

I went for the source. This is your baseless rant and you can't support any of what you said with scriptures even if your life depended on it. That's why I came to you. I expect the same of everyone but I don't have to demand the same from everyone at the same time

ayoku777:
God's foreknowledge cannot be wrong. God knows the end from the beginning. God sits on the circumference of eternity; and past, present, and future is a gigantic present to Him. It is us that lives in time.

If God knows you will do something, it is because He has been to the end and back. But that doesn't mean He is the one that manipulated your freewill to do that thing and end up there.

I think that's where you are having a hard time. You believe once God knows the end of a man, it is because God Himself orchestrated that end.

That's far from the truth. God can know what you will do and He is not the one that manipulated you to do it.

You wrongly believe that once someone can know the future, that means the person orchestrated that future. That is an error.



On the issue of why does God bother warning us, when He already knows what we will decide to do.

It is because God does not judge us based on His foreknowledge of what we will do, but based on what we do. Justice is letting people reap what they sow, not what you know they will sow.

If people are not warned or told the truth, they have a tenable reason or excuse on judgment day to say they didn't believe because they didn't hear.

And even if God knows that even if they had heard they still wouldn't believe, it would still be unjust to send them to the lake of fire.

Those who reject Christ after hearing of Him, did so of their own freewill. But for God to refuse to send them the warning because He knows what their response would be, would make God's judgment unjust.

Everyone still needs to hear the gospel and the warning, so that it would really be established and revealed that they truly did reject Christ of their own freewill.

You need to understand that foreknowledge is not the basis for a righteous judgment. People should be judged for what they did, not what you knew they will do.

You can't put someone in jail because you knew he will commit a crime in 5years time.

Foreknowledge is God's ability to know the end from the beginning because He dwells in eternity. But He doesn't judge us by His foreknowledge of us, He judges us by our actions. He relates with us in time.

Shalom

Powerful

foreKNOWLEDGE remains KNOWLEDGE.
God's foreknowledge does not diminish man's responsibility for his deeds

frank317:
Pls read my question slowly its very clear... I didn't mention sin... There is nothing confusing about that question.

I have asked you to clarify because it is meaningless babble. Can you in one sentence rephrase it and I will gladly give you wisdom from God?

Highcuerayte:
I don't think there should be argument about using Scriptures in my post. If you find anything contradicting the Scriptures in it you talk.

And one thing i will like to clear is, I do not say you don't need the Bible i only said "There is no need inserting scriptures to my writings"

There are levels of Faith. There are believers who don't pray in the morning afternoon or evening but with their Faith they believe God hears their spirits before they think about their needs even when Jesus command them to ask. And they are blessed more than those that follows the letters to the core. Should we say these people are wrong?

So if i write without inserting Scriptures i do that with Faith.

If you want a writing repleted with scriptures you draft one yourself.

He is getting agitated.

If you feel the urge and need to correct believers, do so using scripture not meaningless diatribe. And be wise enough to be focused on one thing at a time. For now, this rant is no different from an atheists.

And stop taking adults for a ride with fairy tales of Spirit impressing on you. Keep your imaginations and opinions to yourself or at the very least call them opinions

frank317:
No... Pls answer my question. What I asked has nothing to do with ordaining... I will repeat my question:


God knew man will fall... Could man not have fallen?

I wish I could answer you but you have to try and be coherent at the very least.

Are you wondering if there was a possibility of man not sinning?

Barywhyte:
Absolutely!! No other standard. None. That reminds me of Nicolaitan deeds in Rev 2. The genesis of Roman Catholic Church

I can tell you why some despise the Word of God; LAZINESS

Contrast reading a 600 page novel with watching a 90min screen adaptation. Negroes don't want to study scriptures nor theology, they just want to sleep and catch revelations. There are good reasons why very few Negroes have contributed to theology. I know study for the sake of it is vain but you get my point.

Once again, I'd rather fall at scriptures than at catching revelations in my fantasies

Dekatron:
#HellLoadingForVooksandKingEbukasblog.



I thought the bible said you wll be accountable for EVERY WORD that you speak. . . . Better beg for forgiveness

He is alive and has enough opportunity to depart from his folly praise be to Jesus Christ the King of Kings!

MizJanet:
LOL , lol , lol

Sissies and babies are good with lols

Barywhyte:
The Young man obviously don't know something.

I don't mind ignorance but stubbornness and shallowness.
He wishes to go 'back' to the days Spirit spoke to men directly without books. This is how cults are brewed. I would not be surprised he was regurgitating what his MoG told him. With such mindsets are you still startled by all the Pentecostal bunk in Nigeria and Africa in general?

WHY does he read the Bible? Are scriptures one of the many ways God communicates to him? If so, how outside scriptures does he know God is speaking to him and not lucifer?

Scriptures are the ONLY objective standard of knowing God, because they came from God. I'd rather err attempting to understand the Word of God than when listening to my own fantasies

Mozambique:
In this scenerio, FOREKNOWLEDGE should also be ORDAINING. Why? Their downfall is known before being created. Now if Iam 100% certain a gadget would be destructive, do I still buy it. Afterall, I'll ditch it.

You are almost getting it.
If you knew for sure that your wife/fiancée will cheat on you and you go on and marry her, did you make her cheat on you?

God being 110% man would fall, He made a way out through the cross, through Jesus Christ the Son of God. This is why Jesus is said to have been slain BEFORE the foundation of the world. The vehicle manufacturer certainly is not responsible for a fatal accident because they built airbags

MizJanet:
Smh .. Can God be wrong in his Foreknowledge ?

No. Shake your head 100 times till it sinks

CoolUsername:
But wasn't it orchestrated? God put Adam and Eve (people who couldn't tell good from evil) in Eden with the forbidden fruit and a snake that would tempt them. What did he think was going to happen?

God created RATIONAL beings. What they do with their rational Freewill is purely their responsibility. Comprende?

Barywhyte:
Fine. The bottom line is provide scriptural references to biblical or spiritual statements. The assumption that certain spirits will do the provisioning in the minds of your readers is baseless

Nice one bro. Actually, what is the point of the scriptures since the Spirit will teach men?
Anybody who demeans scriptures is open to every wind of doctrine.

tartar9:
lying for the greater glory of xrist just as pooaul taught you

The pedophile has suddenly discovered he can type after denying thighing infant girls

frank317:
God knew man will fall... Could man not have fallen?

Since God knew man would fall and if man finally hadn't fallen, what would we have said if what God knew? I mean would we have said God "knew" wrongly?
So I ask again since God already knew man would fall, did man have any other "choice" but to fall? Remember God can't be wrong of what he knows.

Again... What does warning us of what hr already knows will happen mean? If he warns us of what we know, does it mean he want us to so what he does not know? Does it make any sense to warn us of what he already knew must come to pass?

You are confusing FOREKNOWLEDGE and ORDAINING.
God's knowing before hand that Adam would fall does not mean he orchestrated the Fall. That is FOREKNOWLEDGE.
ORDAINING on the other hand is ordering and orchestrating events before hand.

oglalasioux:
We are saying the same thing now. So if all spirit is one why do I need to be a Jew?

True Jews are those who have a close relationship with YHWH. For a better part of history, these were mostly Hebrews or physical Jews but God's plan was for ALL men to relate to Him. To become a Jew is not to become an Israeli or Hebrew but to relate to God closer through Jesus Christ. This is the blessing God promised to Abraham, 'in you and your seek all nations shall be blessed'. Hope it is clear

Alexyswiss:
thanks bro....I get you totally

but since he has power to...why don't he just manipulate it so that we don't choose wrongly
since he also dislike it??

Because if He did that, He'd be overriding our freewill which would no longer be free so to speak, and this is just not God's modus operandi.

Freewill illustrated

menesheh:
Hafa bruh. Long time.
Happy bright Sunday.




That's the illogical notion of the good book. Compelling intelligent people to illogical and foolish things.

FOREKNWLEDGE is not ORDAINING. God knowing man will rebel is not the same thing as saying God authored rebellion. Comprende?

God creates free moral agents and it is this freedom that may be used to walk away from Him

benedictnsi:
It was an accident

You mean he accidentally forgot to get the licenses and he accidentally put up a substandard structure?

Negro you got jokes

Demigods:
I don't blame u, I blame ur stupid useless father who gave birth to worthless waste prduct like u.

I did not kill the 116. TB Joshua did through greed. He cut corners, and killed them in the process

Highcuerayte:
There has been misplaced emphasis after the demise of the Apostles. Instead of resting on the Spirit we are resting on the word like the word give the understanding and power. The Apostle spoke explicitly on various things not written in the OT yet the believers understand what they are saying without a Scripture to justify it from the OT because the Spirit is alive in them and they depend on him. There was no Bible in the early church yet they understand all.


However, the time has come to restore the emphasis on The Spirit rather than the written word. Time to live by the Spirit instead of Living by the written word.

Can you give one thing the apostles taught that was never taught in the OT?

And further, why would you EQUATE yourself with apostles, men who Jesus entrusted with His Word?

And I asked this question. How could you learn of anything outside scriptures?
How do you know those impressions in your mind are of God or Satan? You can only do this by defaulting to scriptures my broda. Islam was started when somebody started catching visions without caring whether they conformed to scriptures. Same case with Mormons. Private and personal revelation can only be tested by scriptures else anything goes.

See this wonderful verse teaching you the benefits of scriptures

So this is why he has been hiding?

The Lagos State government is to arraign in court tomorrow trustees of Synagogue Church and the building engineers contracted to supervise the church’s collapsed building.

Senior Pastor of the church, TB Joshua, is one of the trustees.

They will be arraigned at the Ikeja High court, according to the Deputy Director, Public Affairs, Ministry of Justice, Bola Akingbade.

A coroner, Magistrate Oyetade Komolafe, had ruled that the Synagogue Church and its contractors were essentially negligent in the collapse of a building that killed 116 people on September 12, 2014.

The coroner recommended to the State Government that the church be tried.



However, the church trustees challenged the findings and recommendation of the coroner at the Federal High Court but the application was dismissed on Monday November 11, 2015 paving the way for the commencement of trial.

Source

KingEbukasBlog:
Maybe I was wrong because seeing snakes every time - NatGeo wild , iPad's wallpaper , even having the desire to have a fierce snake as a wallpaper - could have caused the dream . But I can interpret it as you overcoming or eluding your worst fears :

I was holding a very poisonous brownish snake by the head and I recall showing others how huge its fangs were. I knew if it bit me, I was dead so I was a bit nervous. I squeezed harder and it bare out its fangs. Then it spew some red blood like venom. Part of it spilt on my right knee. I continued squeezing its head so hard till I felt the bones crushing. I then threw it out of the window.

Genesis 3 : 14- 15

14 . The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;

15. And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

You are a wise man. I'd say I fear snakes and insects generally

benedictnsi:
May God help him

Help him with what, getting away with 116 human sacrifices?

He killed 116 and thought to get away, let's all pray that Buhari locks him up for good.

The Lagos State government is to arraign in court tomorrow trustees of Synagogue Church and the building engineers contracted to supervise the church’s collapsed building.

Senior Pastor of the church, TB Joshua, is one of the trustees.

They will be arraigned at the Ikeja High court, according to the Deputy Director, Public Affairs, Ministry of Justice, Bola Akingbade.

A coroner, Magistrate Oyetade Komolafe, had ruled that the Synagogue Church and its contractors were essentially negligent in the collapse of a building that killed 116 people on September 12, 2014.

The coroner recommended to the State Government that the church be tried.

However, the church trustees challenged the findings and recommendation of the coroner at the Federal High Court but the application was dismissed on Monday November 11, 2015 paving the way for the commencement of trial.

Source

#BringBackTBJoshua

babafemi1000:
Since you know scriptures more than him why don't you quote them here for the benefit of all? Expose his error and be done with it! Why keep picking at the guy? Haba now.. Is that how to correct in love?

I don't know scriptures more than him and nor have I claimed thus. When you correct a Christian practice, you should do it with scriptures because this is God's yardstick for correcting, reproving us. You can't just say, 'this is wrong!' Say instead, ' this is wrong because the Word of God......'

When Jesus was confronted by Satan, He said 'It is WRITTEN.....' A Christian ought to follow his master

faustinalove:
u r just imposing ur views on others and besides u were very rude calling his post silly.......u dont sound like a tru christian to me..whats d essence of knowing d whole scripture when u dont address other people with love....did u see d way he addressed u as 'brother'? that shows a true christian..learn frm him

Paul was equally loveless and antiChrist when he called Galatians foolish right?

You don't diminish scriptures and replace them with your own imagination which you then call 'Spirit'.
How do you test 'Spirit' apart form the Word of God?

This is a dangerous heresy here bro, that all you need is 'Spirit' not scriptures

Barywhyte:
Its pretty simple bro. The Spirit of God and the Scripture are the same: Inseparable. And the only way to confirm the identity of the Spirit is to look at it in the light of the scripture. While I subscribed to some of the things you put up, I condemn your statement that you don't need to back them up with scriptures.

Amen bro. A poor opinion of scriptures has birthed all this Pentecostal madness you see in Nigeria. A pastor wakes up and commands his congregation to have MouthAction with him and nobody questions because 'Spirit' is speaking.

God has exalted His word above His name, holding the Word any lower than this is blasphemy, extremely foolish and is the foundation for deception

faustinalove:
u r very right brother..we should stop deceiving ourselves by waiting for everything to be backed up with scriptural verses..what then do u hav d holy spirit for?

This is a primate typing away on their smart gadget not Holy Spirit. As such to prove it is Holy Spirit inspiring them, they should appeal to the inerrant Word of Truth. Could you have learnt of he Holy Spirit without scriptures.

How do I know any silly rant is of God? I subject it to the Word of God