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adellam16:
are u speaking english? My dear I don't understand

Sorry, I was using a tiny gadget.
If a minister tells me that God told them to tell me that I should part with something money or otherwise, I simply tell them am yet to get the memo but once I do, I will promptly do it

orunto27:
Why didnt you correct him that Jesus doesnt mean nor translates to ''Anointed''
He's said it twice when it actually it's Christ that means ''Anointed'' where Jesus means Saviour. No!!!!
Jesus means Anointed!!!! Christ means Savior!!!! He didn't save anything until He became Christ. At Jesus, He remains the Son of Man. But in Christ, He. regains His Son of God s status and becomes Heir to the Throne of Grace. These names further explain the Miracle of , His Trinity. Jesus was not a Pagan symbol. He came as the Character that God needs to rede us and to wipe out pagan memory of a symbol god.

I said it was an oversight.
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever. His nature remained the same BEFORE, DURING and AFTER incarnation. Check your theology sir, it is fatally flawed

upperman:
I have noticed the absence of the 5 wise men of SCOAN over 4 months now.I don't want to make frivolous assumptions or believe what haters of TB Joshua are saying thus, I have come to ask my brethren here ;where are TBJoshua's wise men and why was church service so scanty today? pls help.

TB Joshua was last seen in public over the Mexico Crusade. It ended on 30th of May. On 7th June, he said he had come back A WEEK BEFORE on Saturday and was waiting on God.

It was largely rumored he kept off avoiding arrest over the inquiry into his guest house which incriminated him. Since then, he has been spotted in Lagos but not in public. 5 months away from the public eye.

Been following his absence keenly;
https://www.nairaland.com/2419553/why-tb-joshua-hiding-mexico

My take, the Negro fell ill and is embarrassed of coming public with signs of illness as this runs against his superman image.

About his Wisemen, over his 5 month absence from the public, Harry went to Thesaalonika (Greece), Racine read TB Joshua's statement, Chi left for Cameroon sometimes in 2013/4, not sure about the rest.

Something is going down at SCOAN

Vixxie:
Any sane person should know he was lying over the top of his head.

You are a wise man

You can see how ISIS is milking there tragedy for all it is worth....just like TB Joshua
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/616032/ISIS-Russian-jet-Egypt-Terror-Monitor-jihadis-claim-responsibility

fulaniHERDSman:
Senseless claims.

TB Joshua and ISIS have much in common. The difference between them is Nigerians think TB Joshua is Messiah of this generation

winetapper:
So now what next

Wait for the next tragedy and claim you had prophesied it and then have buffoons paying thousands of dollars on their pilgrimage to SCOAN

Please followers of TB Joshua, help us out – how does this prophecy help the grieving families? How does it glorify God? In what way could it have prevented it from happening? It’s interesting how both ISIS and TB Joshua are attempting to capitalise on this tragedy, with ISIS claiming they did it and TB Joshua claiming he predicted it.

TB Joshua and ISIS capitalizing on the Russian Jet crash

Just as predicted, TB Joshua’s plane crash fetish has got the better of him again. He seems completely unable to let a plane crash pass without claiming he predicted it.

What’s worse this time is it’s so blatantly wrong, even before looking at what they’ve edited out. In the prophecy fulfillment video below he predicts a plane crash in a neighbouring country to Ukraine/Russia. Yes, this plane was a Russian plane, but it crashed in Egypt! The prophecy was clearly talking about the region the crash would happen, not the region the plane would come from because it warned airlines not to fly over that region.

We could just leave it at this, but we thought we’d check the original to see what had been edited out. Sure enough, a whole section is contained in the original that was snipped out of the one just released. The section edited out says:
“When I woke up this morning I thought it had happened already, but thank God it hadn’t. It will be very, very imminent, it will happen any time.”

These words were spoken in August 2014, 14 months before the crash! Does that sound imminent to you? Clearly it didn’t work for SCOAN, because they edited it out.

Let’s review what we have – location: wrong, time: wrong, any details that could have identified the plane and prevented it from happening? No. Please followers of TB Joshua, help us out – how does this prophecy help the grieving families? How does it glorify God? In what way could it have prevented it from happening? It’s interesting how both ISIS and TB Joshua are attempting to capitalise on this tragedy, with ISIS claiming they did it and TB Joshua claiming he predicted it.

To those who are grieving the loss of their loved ones, please ignore this false prophet, he does not represent Christianity. We are so sorry for your loss.

If you want to bust there charlatan who has been MIA since May, get a hold of he original video clip and not the edited crap
Source
The EDITED version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7PFiT5yXo


The ORIGINAL version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUpvcry2Ao

The only Negro who has churned out so much junk mail hat he is still 'fulfilling prophecies' over 5 months since he went under


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7PFiT5yXo

onatisi:
how is his absence affecting ur own life ? Is he the one paying ur salary ? Or is his prolong absence affecting the nation?

Did you by any mistake came across him earlier today?

athaboi:
silly? Pls dont curse me dis early morning sunday! Today is all saint day so allow me to celebrate my patron saint "Saint Anthony of padua" dont push into that dis morning

There are no patron saints

Topgainer:
Sequel to this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/2700844/man-steals-oyedepo-runs-mad/5#39552523 It important to highlight some facts about the great man called Oyedepo
Bishop Oyedepo rules his empire by instilling fear and by intimidation. He often paints a picture of himself as a guard of Hell's gate with enormous powers to curse or bless people. Blessings for those committed financially to the expansion of his empire and curses for those who dare challenge his interpretations to scripture verses
He often applys physical assaults to ensure compliance with many agents of the State Security Services, the Police and top lawyers on his payroll. Sometimes he uses terminologies associated with occults or the more traditional Judaism like Covenant, Curse, Seed, Mantle, Portions of anointing, Cure, Psalms, Vengeance and brute force. Which mostly runs at variance with the teachings of Jesus
The fact is that Oyedepo has powers which has been usefully applied to disposses members of their finances. He is a master of such art and many of his branch managers are good students of his, often times he has been at loggerheads with his regional managers for remittances of money dispossessed from members to his HQ account. For those Regional heads who have grown not to fear his threats of curse, he took to court example his former Ghana manager. I guess he learnt some lessons from that with the introduction of some modifications. The UK branch is managed by his Son instead of an outsider who may one day fail to remit adequately millions in pounds extracted from African - immigrant coverts
The ingenuity of Bishop Oyedepo cannot be overlooked in the history of Hybrid Christianity. The American inventors of the Hybrid will envy his modifications, it could be someone's PhD thesis and a very good book for youths aspiring to start up empires like such.
I will not be in a haste to denounce Oyedepo as practicing some form of modified ancient arts as some have done, however, I have some strong reservations about his inventions vis a viz the teachings of Jesus Christ. I have no cause to fear or venerate Oyedepo as I can't share my reverence for God with any man. It is always about choices, someone says the Bishop is his God, another says no his is Ayo Oritsejafor, another says no the God he sees is Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and yet many others say it is Pastor E. A. Adeboye.

Bend it or modify it, the foundation of Christianity lies in the teachings of the Jesus and His Apostles it condones no modifications, no inventions, no parochial interpretations or denominations to it no matter the superiority of the argument

Show me the fruit of your life in Christ starting by how many have come to Christ through you and I will give your rant time in my busy study schedule

kindredspirit:
Vooks, the "you-are-very-silly" quip was unnecessary. C'mon mehn!

Agreed. Am sorry brethren

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ByfireByfire:
Op what amazes me in your post is that you never mentioned any tangible change in your life between then you upheld deliverance and now you dismissed it.

You never showed us how rejecting deliverance sessions made all the mountains of problems you inherited as first born go away.

Honestly if there was a change... a difference, you would be the first to herald it before anyone asked. So I think you need to go and thoroughly complete your deliverance prayer session's before its too late.

If your deliverance effort failed, you need to ask God why. That means you have to pray the prayer of enquiry. Many did and got answers that led to their total deliverance.

My point is that if your present approach hasn't changed your situation (that is if you will be honest) then you still need to rethink.

I wish you well.

Make time and go through this book
http://www.spiritualwarfaredeliverance.com/books/02-christian-spiritual-warfare-book/

athaboi:
mary is dead bt certain she ascended into heaven in glory. Check revelation 12:1, u guys have continued to shy away frm the truth. Nobody asked u to worship her, for the fact that she is the mother of our lord jesus christ..she has the power to interceed on our behave. She pratically did it in the land of canan when they went fo a wedding, she was the one that met jesus for that miracle. She is dead both alive in heaven waxing strong. Read that revelation 12:1 and see for urslf! Am not wrong if i ask her to pray on my behave ofcourse here on earth i tell my mother to help me and pray even pastors helps pple to pray and u want to oppose me asking mary to pray for me. When pastor pray on ur behave and u reject mary to pray on ur behave, what is it called?

You are very silly
How many men went to Jesus in behalf of others?
Mary and Martha went to Jesus on behalf of Lazarus, the centurion on behalf of his sick servant and so forth yet you don't go to them and ask them to approach Jesus.

Good morning Nigeria,
We wake up to another #TBJoshua-less Lord's Day.

Negro is gone for good
Missing in Action since May

#BringBackTBJoshua

Believers need deliverance from IGNORANCE
Look at some myths they have clung to for years
http://www.spiritualwarfaredeliverance.com/books/02-christian-spiritual-warfare-book/

Who will exorcise Pharaisical spirit out of these mumu

WinsomeX:
^^^

I can't seem to open it at the moment. I'll try later. But Calvin certainly taught tongues.

Am sorry for that my broda. I just clicked on it and it opened. Check your connection or something.

Calvin was somewhat a flip flop on spiritual gifts but we can say he did lay the foundation for Cessationism

There had been cessationists since the days of the Church Councils. But as a well-defined viewpoint, modern cessationism starts with John Calvin. Back in the days of the Reformation, the Vatican had sent Robert Bellarmine to win back the people who had joined the Reformed churches. One of Bellarmine's main methods was to point to wondrous signs done by loyal Catholics, and then ask, 'Where's your miracles? How is God working through you?' For a while, at least, Bellarmine was quite effective. Calvin knew he had to respond to that specific challenge. Calvin replied :

"The gift of healing, like the rest of the miracles, which the Lord willed to be brought forth for a time, has vanished away in order to make the new preaching of the Gospel marvelous forever."
(*Institutes*, Battle translation, 1960, p.1467).

He drew this from Augustine of Hippo, who wrote when commenting on one particular sign in Acts 2:4 :

"In the earliest times, 'the Holy Ghost fell upon them that believed: and they spake with tongues,' which they had not learned, 'as the Spirit gave them utterance.' These were signs adapted to the time. For there behooved to be that betokening of the Holy Spirit in all tongues, to shew that the Gospel of God was to run through all tongues over the whole earth. That thing was done for a betokening, and it passed away."

http://www.spirithome.com/cessationism.html

But am not sharing the commentary to show you this but rather you may observe the fatal flaws these post-modern anti-Pentecostals are making in 'combating' Pentecostalism.

Read his commentary on 1 Cor 12-14 and then we can exchange notes

Image123:
i no miss am jare,good riddance.

My broda, you are mean oooo

athaboi:
get behind me u satan!!!

Satanism is worshipping dead people and preserving their relics

ernesty20:
ok i dnt know

What do you think

MuttleyLaff:
Why didnt you correct him that Jesus doesnt mean nor translates to ''Anointed''
He's said it twice when it actually it's Christ that means ''Anointed'' where Jesus means Saviour.

My bad. Thank you for the correction

ernesty20:
Ask google

Am aksin you not Google

athaboi:
Pray for me oh Mary mother of God!

Drop this nonsense and approach God through Christ not through dead women

Winsomex,
I trust you are not like many Believers who identify themselves with Reformed camp and have NEVER read any of the Reformers' works.
Calvin erred in one too many ways but I believe you need to acquaint yourself with his commentary on 1 Corinthians especially on the spiritual gifts.

I have dug up a copy and am sharing it hoping you will go through it. Calvin is no arbiter on matters doctrine but it is a shame when I look at the depths his kids have strayed from him for reasons known better to themselves
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/calcom39.pdf

WinsomeX:
Thank you Abdul. I could easily have consented with you, only that I'm certain that only Pentecostals regard "praying in the Holy Ghost" as stated in Jude 20 as speaking in tongues. The wider spectrum of evangelical Christianity regard such praying as normal, sincere, honest and fervent prayers to God - in understandable language.

When Jesus spoke to the woman at the well, he told her of those who will worship God in spirit and in truth. Prayers, a sought of worship, will be in the spirit when it is said in truth. If there are any people NOT praying in truth and therefore not praying in the spirit, it is Pentecostals. I remember hours of meaningless "kabashing" working up the flesh saying we are praying in tongues. The mere fact that you don't know what you're saying is tantamount to not praying in truth and thus not praying in the spirit.

Jude 20 is very debatable as to whether or not it is praying in tongues. I would like to see a credible bible commentary render this tongues. What I see many regard it is simple intelligible praying.

Am dying to see ANY commentary that thinks 1 Cor 14:4 has nothing to do with edification or one that thinks personal edification here is a false doctrine because they can't find ANOTHER scripture on tongues edifying privately.

Hmm

Some villagers believe it is. Must be the psychedelic mushrooms


http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/virgin-marys-image-appears-on-a-rock-in-makueni-county/

Who else misses TB Joshua here?