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victorvezx:
Hahaha. Bro u are making no sense with this post. Everything u just wrote here is wishful thinking, u have never thought of what the Nigerian government is capable of doing to u people. U are just thinking it one way, the Ipob way. Lol

Time will tell

The ape called Obasanjo should explain further the relationship between Today's Biafra and 1966 coup


We all know that 1966 coup was to free Awolowo and make him the prime minister


Is Nnamdi Kanu asking to be the president of Nigeria.?


Obasanjo talks like a fool at times.


IPOB aim is clear and that is to restore the state of Biafra



Dialogue Now

Restructure Now


If Nigeria is to be saved from Disintegration

genearts:
The election will still hold and a winner will still emerge that will still rule over aall of you including those that didn't vote! What then will the achievement of the boycott??

You don't understand the implications of a boycott on the Nigerian state and Igbo leadership in particular


Let me enlighten ignorant Afonjas


This will send a strong message to the world that Nnamdi Kanu is in Charge of the East


His words becomes a law


Once he gives out instructions, the Igbo youths will quickly obey


That is why I laugh at fools shouting military coup


Because the Igbos now have a unified leadership in IPOB that will cease the opportunity to break away through a violent anti coup induced United Nations Referendum

@ dolphinife ODVanguard




Fastest way to destroy an economy is to stress so much on personal income tax.


The more tax people pay,

the less money they have to spend.

The less money they spend,

the slower the economy grows and expands


Focus more on encouraging the people to go into businesses and investments and then tax those assets mildly.

Imagine visiting a president without recording on video, camera or skyping it.



Nigeria and fraud

davidif:
Dude, I didn't create this thread to start a tribal war but to educate people. If you want to start a sectarian conflict go elsewhere.

Your view is inconsequential


Just take note that the world don't tolerate lies


The population fraud of the North and West will incur the hatred of the world against them


Just ask the Chinese what they are facing in the intellectual world because of intellectual theft.

A leader is the one people give their allegiance to


How many people are followers of Orji

How many people can Orji mobilize without spending a dime



Nnamdi Kanu is in charge of the East


Without a single bullet shot, Anambra election will end up with the lowest voters turn out in the history of the state


Orji lost his chance of being a leader when he failed to transform Abia state into the Dubai of Nigeria.




Kanu is in charge of the East

The refusal of the Hausa Fulani people to accept a Restructured Nigeria will lead to the end of Nigeria


The Hausa Fulani people are thinking like the Egyptians who never wanted to see a change in status quo until the Jewish God intervened and destroy the Egyptians

Mark my words

A time is coming when the Hausa Fulani people will beg for Restructuring and will be told that it is too late


Dialogue Now

Restructure Now

or

Nigeria will die

Peinstein:
Nigeria indeed has ethnic groups dispersed across several states, only few states are homogenous.

However I want to correct your assertion that Obi people in Nasarawa are Igbo's. I don't know about how they came about that name, but it is not a hard thing to find names in other areas similar to what you have in other well defined ethnic groups.

Obi people in Nasarawa are not Igbo. The Igbo people there are migrants. Obi people are just like their brothers in Jenkwe, Ayaragu, Awe all belong to the ethnic groups normally shared between Nasarawa and Plateau and a few local ones. If you have your doubts meet with the emir or obi. His palace is not too far from the main bus stop in Obi.

While you have IBO people there selling their items like provisions as they do in other areas, they all return home to the east during Xmas and new year. In fact it would be difficult for you to get some provisions during this period as the Igbo's who normally sell it would have returned to their towns in the east for the yuletide.

Don't define a people's culture by the name of their town.

AustineE1 :


What is

Come
Go
Fire
Water
Food
Market
Animal
etc

In the language of Obi people of Nassarawa state


pls, I need answers

ONYEUTALI:
This is another shameful lie that'll be busted on the faces of the Nigerian elites when Biafra goes. The North will be forced to tell themselves the truth about their population. Right now they're feeding on Southern Tax money claiming they have 70 percent of the Nigerian population.
Which other country in West Africa had more population in the North than in the South? Why was Nigeria's different? Why does International Maps show condensed population in the South and Nigerian Maps does otherwise?
It hurt me to believe ordinary Aboki has been cheating me for 57 years. Where the hell did the Illiterate North get this smartness from?

As you rightly said, the world will know that Nigerian population is a fraud once the country disintegrates.


The hatred the world will have towards the North and West for inflating their figures will be unprecedented.


Time will finally set the Truth free

irrefragable:
@fratermathy, please Biafra is not a metaphor for restructuring. If you want restructuring, go out there and lead your people in protest against the government and receive your own bullets.

The urhobo nation has the full rights to say where they want to belong when the time comes: restructured Nigeria, biafra or ND but please don't attempt to tell Biafrans what they want. They've given too much for this already.

And lastly please stop hiding under the Biafran agitation to post nonsense. You told us the urhobo nation is not part of Biafra, why did you have to start your thread with ''Biafra as a metaphor for restructuring" Why not "urhobo as a metaphor for restructuring"?

Don't mind Fratermathy


He has realized the hopelessness of the present Nigeria system and wants to use the Biafran struggle to liberate his people from the clutches of slavery bestowed upon his Urhobo people by the system



Fratermathy, Urhobos are not Biafrans as you said


Pls, tell your people to go into the streets and fight for Restructuring.

Perfect analysis

Nigeria is dead and buried

It is too late for Restructuring.

Tyche:
This is becoming absurd, bye

What is Absurd about the fact that Buhari's government is training Jihadists in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Tyche:
Imagine someone praying for war to break out in his region? When will this shildren learn

So self determination is war to you


Shaking my head for you.

YourImaginaryBF:
The question is are you ready?

That is not the most important question


The most important question is

When is Obasanjo going to die.?


The answer is


As soon as he desires the death of Kanu



You can join him if you seek to.

YourImaginaryBF:
Are you even prepared?

Did I call for anyone's assassination.?


Obasanjo called for Kanu's assassination and should get ready to face the Spirit stirring up Kanu to fight for his peoples freedom.

Adieu Obasanjo

fulanmafia:
I couldn't agree more. The more you drill sense into their heads, the stronger their resolve to be obstinate and remain ignorant, preferring to illogically compare apples and oranges.

It appears that every 50 years or so, each generation need to be reminded of the futility of unpreparedly engaging the Federal forces in a game of might. What a tragedy of humanity.

You did not address the system that makes the States unable to exploit their resources to construct infrastructures for international purposes that bring development to their areas


Anyway to cut the story short


Is Unity By Force.?

Fulani man, I don't want to share the same country with you


Lugard's enslavement camp is over

We shall return to our original African arrangement before the white men distorted it


Kiss your Nigeria containing the Igbos of SE/SS/Benue and other interested ethnic groups good bye



I don't want to be your fellow countryman again


Bye bye


To Fulani herdsmen terrorism


Bye bye

To Hausa Fulani Islamic extremism

Bye bye

To those who oppose Restructuring


Bye bye to you

macjive01:
Elections is still the clearest way to advance the cause,
Gain executive power to effect seccesionist agendas
Gain state apparatus and machineries - like state broadcasting structures.
Coordinate investment to improve the economy of the region
Cordinate the unity projects.
and most important gain a clear mandate of the people

Nnamdi Kanu has no mandate.. he is only a director of an illegal radio station, thats why many Igbos and many people in South south still dont regard him- undoubtedly his message resonates with many- probably majority.
He needs to now win a clear mandate.

Scotland
The nationists advocated and aggitated for separation for a long time, did all the demostration and even threatened violence, but at the end they realised it doesnt serve any purpose. They then venture into politics. Formed SNP.
within two paliament elections or so, they became majority with their alliance- the Greens.

SNP- on winning majority of their paliament- set off building institutions of a country.
. Integrated their dying , forgotten local language Gaelic into school curruculum.
. Set up Special schools to tutor it and provided students with generous bursary to study it.
. Set up newspapers- couldnt set up a media house as the juridiction was with the national governement-( that contributed to why they lost the referendum, not having a TV station to cover SNP rally and provide positive spin to their message)
. Set up distinctive Scotland business forum to coordinate and secure special treatment for scottish businesses- Now only brandy made in scottand can bear Scotch drink. ( England never cared about that till SNP got in power)
. SNP being in power was able to advocate Scotishness.
won a landmark ruling to differentiate Scottish inventions from England- England previously claimed scottish inventions as English.
. SNP was able to carry out strategic construction programs for future statehood. Railway lines to connect Scotland. dualise scottish roads . ( The UK motor is 3 lanes on each side from down south of England till Scotland where it turns to dual -2 lanes. , further up, it becomes a single lane to Inverness.
. Built and supported building of seaports and harbours.
. Now on the verge of removing airport taxes so more planes can visit scotland- improving connectivity.

Spain-
Catalonias could have been gotten where they are today with winning a mandate through the electorate- They have built up the structures of a separate state while still in Spain.
Built up their economy.
Integrated Catalonia education
Preserved their history and importantly defined it.
They have demostrated to their people that on separation they will be successful.
There is very few doubts they will be successful.



Now compare to Basque
Basque choose the route of IPOB
The went with demostrations,
.Civil disobedience- sit at home,
.Boycotts- boycotted dozens of elections
.Spain ignored them. - investors got scared away- the economy tanked.
.Out of frustration they started bombing government structures to send a message. were merely structural ( would inform the media that a certain building will be bombed- ensuring people are warned and stayed away)
.After wasting over 2 decades, they then received sense, disbanded their arm and bombing campaign and decided to go into elections.
.Those 2 decades in fact gave them bad reputations. They were labelled as miscreants and soon their own people began to turned against them.

There are dozens of other examples, it never work with demostrations etc, you need to takeover the system from inside.
win legitimacy from the poll.

You are still dreaming when you say Kanu has no mandate


The millions supporting him are they trees



To cut the story short


Is One Nigeria By Force.?

Those who don't have dignity beg for Unity.?

mrvitalis:
That's democracy bro

U can't allow an oposition party out perform u

In a regional party it can't be seen as a competition

So democracy to you is to oppose development like opposing the conversion of an Airport into an international one



You see why Biafrans don't want to share the same country with people like you


Opposing development because of politics


Shame unto you and your entire ethnic group be it Hausa Fulani or Yoruba or Whatever.

You can't call for the Assassination of Kanu and this death won't touch you this time around


Adieu Obasanjo


Tell the dead that, a new generation of Biafrans want freedom.

Since Obasanjo said
1) Assassinate Kanu
2) No to Restructuring

You don't need a prophet to tell you that the end is near

I pity those ethnic groups whose elites and commoners opposed Restructuring
Their poverty is about to begin

Naijiant:
Nigeria had true federalism during the First Republic. It didn't work and that's why the military struck. Here's a history lesson for those advocating restructuring: https://www.naijiant.com/articles/history-lesson-advocates-restructuring-nigeria/

The federalism wasn't a complete federalism

It was quasi federalism

Do people serve the leaders or the leaders serve the people.?

Ohaneze should go and sit down

Majority carries the vote

You see why the ancestor of Afonjas was thrown out of heaven


Why do a particular people love to lie and turn history upside down against the Igbos

The armour of those vehicles should be increased

The soldiers are too exposed

Sanchez01:
Everyone regardless of tribe, creed and religion deserves this.


There is no such country as this in the world. The so-called 'most liberated state in the world (the USA) can neither boast of abundant jobs, sound security nor devoid racial profiling and racism.


Yes, but the average Igbo man is greedy and believes the world has to revolve around him. Igbos are not even close to being marginalized than The Delta. Yet, you scream night and day when in reality you are scattered than other ethnic group combined. Your leaders are equally greedy and don't seem to care about the welfare of their people.


Experience talks in the guise of Peter Obi and you call it bluff? As a people, we have one common enemy and that is the political class. Ask yourself why you struggle to make ends meet even in your state of origin whereas the governor and a selected few are living off the wealth of the people.

The youths also share a portion of this blame as they don't mind selling their conscience for paltry sums. It is in this part of the world that I have come to see youths celebrate a politician for building flyover bridges with fairy bulbs all over them.



Before you leap, could at least mention your state of origin and also mention AT LEAST TWO WORLD CLASS INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT BY YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT FOR ITS PEOPLE before we start talking about a state governor building international structures for 'national purposes'?


I strongly share your line of thought here and would love the idea for states to control their resources, but you must understand this would not be the work of a restructured country. Never.



I count this as blasphemy.


My good friend, it seems you were born in the 90's. Was developed built in eight years. What is the primary source of income of Anambra, compared to Dubai Is your IGR presently aligning with your Dubai thought process in any way.




Wrong. The primary problem of Nigeria is that most of these states contribute little or nothing yet want to build a castle/empire.



I'm sure everyone knows this and this would never be realized via restructuring. I belive I would be creating a thread on this before the day runs out.


[s][/s]
Aren't you a confused fellow You clamoured for resource control up there, now come back to poke The Delta that she would not be able to diversify while your own people can Comparing Singapore to The Delta when we operate a unitary system of government, as opposed to Singapore that operates a parliamentary representative democratic republic whereby the President of Singapore is the head of state, the Prime Minister of Singapore is the head of government, and of a multi-party system, is not only funny but also an indication that you do not understand people and the various systems of government being practiced all over.



You clearly don't understand this. Switzerland operates a DIRECT DEMOCRACY and is the only country in the world to do so. That a rope fits a goat does not mean it would be the same for a dog. Below is why Switzerland's model can never work for us;

1. We are one of the most diversified country in the world, with over 250 ethnic groups. So, an open democracy cannot work.
2. Switzerland prides itself in agriculture, trade and industry. We don't. Igbos trade, but are quite lazy when it comes to manufacturing. The same goes for other parts of Nigeria.
3. About 72% of Swiss GDP is generated by the service sector and 27% by industry. The contribution from the agricultural sector is less than 1%. How would Nigeria beat this
4. The European Union (EU) is Switzerland's main trading partner. Around 60% of Swiss imports are from the EU, while 60% of Swiss exports are destined for EU countries. Who are Nigeria's main trading partner? How about you go ahead to name just one trading partner the Igbos have?
5. Switzerland has the lowest rate of value-added tax in Europe. 8% is levied on most goods and services, 3.8% on accommodation services, and 2.5% on basic necessities and other everyday items. How do we go around this without killing the government?



The IPOB is petty. You insulted the North and called them leeches, parasites and unprintable names. Now, they have asked you to leave their lands and you are crying? If I was a Northerner, I would have done worse. Is it any surprising today that no part of The Delta wants anything to do with you guys





This is your headache. I can't wait for you guys to leave and God knows I would be one of the saddest persons in the country that would see that you guys remain.


The way you guys mention the UN is always laughable. There are so many problems in the world the UN holds as priority and Biafra is not one of the problems.


You guys are tad sensitive.

I am not going to stress myself explaining to you if you are not willing to learn


I will leave you with one Nation to study more about and learn of her success



SWITZERLAND

SWITZERLAND

SWITZERLAND

mrvitalis:
Lol I have read what happened. That's democracy for u bro that's y I said regional party u will never be opposition. People will only seek ur support for something in return


U need to study uk party system

You never read what happened. If you read what happened, then tell me what Excuse Shagari gave to Late Mbakwe for not accepting an international airport in his state then.?

nengibo:
A country of abundant jobs

A country where things work

A country that has security

A country of no discrimination

First of all, there is no country like this one you just described, so stop deceiving yourself that Biafra will be anything like that.

No doubt dat the ipob struggle inadvertently brought important questions to the table, like restructuring and questions of oppression of other groups by the present Apc fg, what I and other ethnic nationalities represented by their sons& daughters on nl are against is the land grabbing, hate speech, misrepresentation of our own goals by most ipob igbos because of their Biafra agenda

Cc Warship

Switzerland is a nation that has all those qualities


Go and study more about Switzerland.

NtoAkwaIbom:
The Thing that messes up ur entire post is you saying that Bad leadership and corruption are not not the things hindering progress .

imagine
there is a govt that has bad priorities and instead of building the infrastructure u listed.. uses the same money to give to boys to drink and be happy..
at the end of the day, the country will have no infrastructure to track down investment.
take for Example..Theordore Orgi of Abia that stayed without doing a thing and then The current govnor comes in and does wonder with lesser money.
So can u see what bad leadership can cause ??


imagine the scenerio of corruption.
100 million is budgetted for the 2nd Niger bridge. but instead of the money being used judiciously in carrying out the projecy, some corrupt croonies come out to embezzle the money and leave the work in disarray...
do u think the bridge will build itself ? how do u think people will bring in investment into the region ?
Have u seen what corruption can cause ?

So Peter Obi and late Sam Mbakwe were corrupt to you that is why they couldn't achieve their dreams of a well developed states.


Let me expose your illiteracy for the world to see

Answer these questions


1) Do states have the power to build airports, seaports, etc for international purpose

2) Do states have the power to exploit and retain at least 50% resources for their development

3) Do states have the power to set up their own police force to checkmate Fulani herdsmen terrorism.

4) Do states have the power to generate electricity solely for their indigenes without sending it to the National Grind.

5) Do states have the power to alter their own educational system to meet up to modern realities


Just answer these 5 questions first.

fulanmafia:
The manner of the struggle itself is extremely foolish, which makes your goals unattainable regardless of their perceived merits.

What are your options?

Civil disobedience? You will be continually ignored until it turns violent, which is not in your interest.

Referendum/Restructuring? You need serious diplomacy to make the required constitutional amendment possible. Diplomacy that you and your kin have defined as "ass-licking the Abokees and Afonjas" and is thus forbidden (highlighting the legendary foolishness of the IPOB approach)

The UN? This is a dead end because the same charter expressly recognizes the sovereignty of Nigeria. Read the clause on self-determination exhaustively to understand this reality. Laudate can help break it down to IPOB sized chunks for easier understanding if you are serious.

War? This is your only realistic option in light of the ideology of your agitation. This is exactly what the erudite Prof. Oyebode was emphasizing. I'm sure you're not inclined towards this option judging from the tone of your original post.

Your only real two options are diplomacy or war. Therefore to tread the path of diplomacy is in alignment with the concept of IPOB becoming a political party through which it can lobby to promote its interests, despite the rib-cracking hilarity of the idea of IPOB's ability to play Nigerian politics.

Go and study more about East Timor and you will understand that the days of Nigeria are over.


Keep thinking that if an uprising arise today, that the world won't insist on a Referendum


Ask the Slavs how the Croatians broke out of Yugoslavia.


Just go and study more about East Timor


The world is watching and international groups and national governments are taking sides


You think IPOB has no international connection


With time, it will become clear to all of you that either Nigeria is Restructured or she Disintegrates.

pazienza:
@Macjive01

In the cases of election boycott you cited, the boycott seem to have been carried out by opposition parties and not by secessionist groups, don't you think that might make a difference in Biafra's case.

Nigerian opposition parties under the UPGA alliance also had done an election boycott in the 2nd republic elections that proved largely ineffective as NNA under Akintola and Balewa still had their way.


Are you also aware that elected public office holders take a legal oath upon swearing in to preserve Nigerian unity at all cost.
How can IPOB members pursue a Biafran agenda as elected Nigerian public office holders, if IPOB goes into the murky waters of Nigerian politics like you are suggesting.
Mind you, I had suggested this your idea of politicizing IPOB in the past, but was forced to have a rethink on it.
I'd be pleased to hear your ideas on this.

I have explained to him the futility of his proposal on this thread below


https://www.nairaland.com/3911977/why-it-wrong-tell-ipob

izombie:
dude forget that party stuff abeg. Did you not see how they fought stella odua for trying to make enugu airport international? They fought and fought until she was removed. Every igbo man should wake up abeg.

God bless you for pointing that out to him


The Nigerian system is an evil system designed to control the progress of some ethnic groups perceived as enemies of Nigeria


One thing is sure


Our prayers for freedom have been heard