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Eddlad:
Evidence?
Some bodies revolve around others are they also moving away from this "infinitesimally tiny point" as per the explosion? Can any big bang believer elaborate?

You mean the ripple effect. It's calmer the closer one gets to the epicenter. The further away from the point of origin, the more the thing keeps expanding.

theunusualmoon:
@weah96

Let's pretend the DNA test does not exist.
How can you prove that your mum,dad and child is truly yours?

In the end children only grow up to respect and refer to those that nurtured them with love as parents.Most people don't even go for DNA testing.
So what is that feeling that makes a child(Even an adult) look up at its mother or father and say: mummy,daddy?

Survival instincts. The baby is dead without its parents, or without human supervision. That feeling is the only thing keeping it alive. It doesn't know that you feel the same way.

basille:
You're not an atheist.

For believing that my ID is God?

We all have Gods deposited in us from birth, that's why babies sleep for about 20 hrs a day. They are unconsciously teaming up with the ID, and sleep is the only place to do it at that age.

I might be talking complete rubbish though, so don't take me too seriously.

plaetton:
@Deepsight

Why is it so much easier to speak about a supreme self-existent mystery being than supreme self-existent natural processes that beget all things in the universe?

Lets be honest.
Could it be just mental laziness?

Abeg, please ask them again.

The problem for them is, if the universe is God, then the manufacturers of holy books, and the urchins who peddle their messages, will be out of business.

God must be a being, because of the talking business. There is a monetary reward, IN THIS LIFE, that is attached to making the creator a talking being. Someone wants to feed their family by claiming that it spoke to him in his native language.

There is no way to get money, or p*ssy for that matter, from saying that the universe created itself. It will be harder to move the books off the shelves.

Great0:
If you give birth to another being...Its not you. God and Jesus are one....[size=19pt]you cant understand it cox your a natural man.[/size]
This also where you all misunderstand it.
He has two nature; God and man(body)
He was brought forth as flesh(created in our nature)...like we human. But His spirit is the word(The real personality)....who created all things and himself is not created.

Check out the bolded, pure hubris masquerading as humility.

FOLYKAZE:
This has nothing to do with the OP.

The OP aked you why you think God does not exist. Provide answer here or further ask him what he mean by God. Answering him thereafter without clarity mean you understand what god is. So I dont understand why you hold unto Jehovah as if it is the only thing thay is god

Are you mad? Did you not read my reply to the OP? I forgot. You don't read. You only wait to see the words atheist and God together before you begin to pleasure yourself.

A vegetarian tells you that meat is bad for the body. You disagree claiming that he too eats meat. Are you not looking to start a fistfight?

basille:
That settles it then. Do you believe in a non conventional God or "Source of all things" like say consciousness?

Yea. I believe in MYSELF. Not my human self, but the self which acts as the main character in my dreams. Freud called it the ID. I call it God.

Coincidentally, I've never seen my own face in my dreams. LOL.

Eddlad:
And you know this how? Are you talking big bang?(I don't mind an epistle now)

I don't know. But all the evidence points to the fact that an explosion occurred, separating everything you currently see today from an infinitesimally tiny point. Everything is one, which explains the need for the same basic unit of organization.

basille:
What are your beliefs, i assumed you were an atheist?

Anti conventional-theist atheist to be precise. I welcome any discussion in which we discuss some of the "magical" possibilities afforded by the natural universe.

As far as conventional Gods, and visible objects of worship, I believe in none of them.

These photos are like the photos of Bigfoot and UFOs, always blurry and out of focus. Are these pictures from the 60s?

theunusualmoon:
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Before we begin to delve into different denominations.Let us consider the term GOD I.e a higher being. Do you believe this being exists or not? Please give one reason for your answer.

The word being is a loaded term. Intelligence is more appropriate. I have reasons to believe that Nature itself is intelligent. But you won't agree with me on calling it a being, would you? The people who fall off buildings certainly don't like her.

Folykaze, answer me this. A man walks up to you and says that he is a truck driver. Would you ask him if he is a golf club or how a golf club can drive trucks?

basille:
If they fit your description of gods, then don't you think they are gods? and doesn't that void your beliefs?

No, because I don't consider them as distinct personalities, but as characteristics of the universe and my consciousness. I won't object to the nomenclature though, if you want to call them Gods, then by all means, be my guest.

FOLYKAZE:
Pantheistic atheist you are. Not just atheist. That is what you do not want to accept.

I believe somedays, atheism will be synonymous to insanity and psalm 14:1 will be affirmed. It is not an insult but just saying the fact. Because atheism is disbelieve in God existence but God ever exist either as an entity, idea or concept.

You are insane. A vegetarian says that he doesn't eat meat, and you agree with that statement because you wrote it earlier.

Although vegetables are meats, sane people recognize and understand the connotation of the word, that the man is talking about animals.

You on the other hand, not only recognize the connotation of what the atheist means by God, but it has been CLARIFIED for you. There is probably a committee charged with removing words from the English language. Forward your complaints to them. You are making a fool out of yourself.

johnydon22:
So do we take it that you believe non-abrahamic God concepts? like Scandanivian Gods, egyptian Gods, sumerian Gods, Igbo Gods? you only disbelieve abrahamic Gods? lets get you clearly

Those are conventional Gods. I don't believe in any.

basille:
Then don't you think that Mother nature and time are gods?

They would fit my description of Gods. They certainly act like they are, don't they?

FOLYKAZE:
how many times do I need to express myself to make you understand me?

Let me employ the vegetarian theory again.
[size=18pt]When a vegetarian is asked reason why he refused to eat meat, he doesnt ask in reply which particular meat because as a vegetarian, he does not eat ALL meat.[/size]

I don't understand what you stand to gain from your incessant pedantry. A reasonable person asks for clarification once, receives it, and moves you. You now know what I mean, why are you obsessed with the old semantics business? This is turning out to be your signature mating ritual of yours or something, and even though it is entertaining, it sometimes can also be downright annoying.

You have just checkmated yourself, and I hope that you will present another contribution to the arena. Here's your rebuttal:

meat
mēt/Submit
noun
noun: meat; plural noun: meats
1.
the flesh of an animal (especially a mammal) as food.
"pieces of meat"
synonyms: flesh, animal flesh
"you need to cut down on your consumption of meat"
the flesh of a person's body.
"this'll put meat on your bones!"
synonyms: flesh, animal flesh
"you need to cut down on your consumption of meat"
NORTH AMERICAN
[size=19pt]the edible part of fruits or nuts.[/size]
the essence or chief part of something.
"he did the meat of the climb on the first day"
synonyms: substance, pith, marrow, heart, kernel, core, nucleus, nub, essence, essentials, gist, fundamentals, basics; informalnitty-gritty
"the meat of the matter"
2.
archaic
[size=19pt]food of any kind.
[/size]synonyms: food, nourishment, sustenance, provisions, rations, fare, foodstuff(s), provender, daily bread; More
informalgrub, eats, chow, nosh;
formalcomestibles;
datedvictuals;
literaryviands
"meat and drink"

There is no such thing as a vegetarian because everyone eats meat. Just as there is no such thing as an atheist... because we all believe in God.

Do you disbelieve in the meat of a pawpaw?

FOLYKAZE:
Atheism is disbelieve in God/gods. This in particular mean disbelieve in ALL gods and not just Jehovah and Allah only. Christians believe in Jehovah but disbelieve in Allah and every other God that exist in other religion and culture. Therefore atheists are expected to disbelieve in all these God.

Atheism is a greek word a + theos which mean No God. God there is not just Allah or Jehovah though they make it up but all Gods.

http://godisimaginary.com/i28.htm


So the OP asked a simple question, why do you think God does not exist? So I dont expect weah69 to peg the question for Jehovah or Allah.

Atheism is the dismissal of all forms of conventional theism. Unconventional Gods like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lebron James, and myself are not included.

If you feel like calling the Aso Rock building by the moniker God, then after you clarify the attributes and the benefits you get from the building, I might join your cult group.

PastorAIO:
e squeeze mi! Perhaps I could help.

I think that maybe we should make a distinction between God, the office, and God, the personality.

An office may bear certain functions that can be fulfilled by various persons. Many people may be president of US, but there is only one presidency of US.

The OP, maybe, I don't know, may be asking if there is such an office as God that presumably is responsibly for such functions as creating and maintaining the universe. The question of who fills this office, whether amadioha, sango or Jehovah is not pertinent right now.

Weah96 may believe that such an office as 'God' exists but disbelieve that it is filled by any such beings as Jehovah, Allah etc.

Abeg, Am I right?

Kinda. Is the creator a humanoid or the universe itself?

FOLYKAZE:
Then the Universe is God.

Therefore it exist.

Mother Nature is God. It exist

I believe in certain Gods, and have serious reservations about the rest.

Example, I've been to an Outkast concert, I've had my hair cut in barbershop with Big Boi seated in the next chair, I have watched their videos.

When I say that I don't believe in God, I am under the impression that the OP if referring to the Abrahamic ones.

FOLYKAZE:
Simply tell us you believe in Mother Nature. Mind you, she is a goddess and thus exist.

We've been here before. You know EXACTLY what my beliefs are, as far as Gods are concerned.

Eddlad:
Ok.
What do you know or think is source of creation(I don't want an epistle)

The universe created itself through its mother nature and father time.

theunusualmoon:
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Before we begin to delve into different denominations.Let us consider the term GOD I.e a higher being. Do you believe this being exists or not? Please give one reason for your answer.

"Being" is a misnomer. Higher power is a better term. I do believe that there is a power(s) that exceeds my own. Mother Nature comes to mind, just as an example.

FOLYKAZE:
Atheism is disbelieve in God/gods. This in particular mean disbelieve in ALL gods and not just Jehovah and Allah only. Christians believe in Jehovah but disbelieve in Allah and every other God that exist in other religion and culture. Therefore atheists are expected to disbelieve in all these God.

Atheism is a greek word a + theos which mean No God. God there is not just Allah or Jehovah though they make it up but all Gods.

http://godisimaginary.com/i28.htm

Implied context of the OP is Christian. What you're doing is time wasting. The OP isn't talking about Barack Obama or Dr. Dre the rapper. He assumes that I'm not a mad man.

FOLYKAZE:
Pls permit me to cut in here.

The response you have here is completely wrong and it particularly driving the discussion into another subject. The OP asked you to explain why you think God does not exist. He didnt ask you why this particular God does not exist. So I dont see reason why you are bringing Jehovah and Allah brohaha into this. The question is why do you think God does not exist.

Let me elaborate my point with this sample. I could ask a vegetarian why he/she choose not to eat meat. The answer expected from such person is not another rhetoric question like do you mean pork or dog meat or elephant meat. What type of meat I refer to is not a problem but why is it that vegetarian dont eat meat. Just go straight to the answer.

That know, can you pls look away from Allah or Jehovah for now (that is another issue) and tell us why you disbelieve in God?

The OP has one idea that he calls God. I'm trying to understand which connotation of the word he's referring to.

Asking someone whether God exists if like asking whether Car exists. Which car? Automobile, locomotive box cars, or the car that Tom uses to chase Jerry in the cartoons? Some cars are real, others are fake.

Eddlad:
Is this thread restricted?

Not really. Your contribution will be considered by me.

theunusualmoon:
Hello weah96,
You and I have had a few chats over time.I think it is high time we had an elaborate one.You seem to always try to riducule every post that aligns with GODly beliefs on NL and I think it will be nice if you can just give me one reason why you believe GOD does not exist.I ask for this in a bid to give you something to think about.

There are different Gods. Are you referring to Jehovah, Yahweh, or Allah? My reasons vary for each one.

JMAN05:
I do not doubt their deity's power.

So why are you not a Muslim?

malvisguy212:
if adeboye is richer than bill gate , then what's the problem? Is it a sin for a pastor to be rich ?the only things you guys need to do is to proved, [size=18pt]if he collect church money and spend it.[/size]

You must be a mad man. Does he have another source of employment other than peddling superstition for change?

jcmaiah:
Its not pride, that man can get 1000cars in a day without paying a dime! If bill gate buys one thousand cars his account will deplete. So he has a sound point.

Yes, it is pride. That kind of rhetoric is only popular among local pimps, human traffickers, and other psychopaths like your son Adeboye.

JMAN05:
Oga stop deceiving people, u are not a serious atheist. U just bore the name. Even many of u here are not known as atheist at home.

Why will I burn the shrine of Allah? Did i doubt they have a deity?

In short, I ve seen people like u guys who love deceiving themselves cos of selfish reasons. Now u have ur slavery freedom.

Does Allah have any powers over you? If not, then go and set his shrine on fire.

herald9:
The West started this... They've gradually drifted away and might soon end this...


But any hope for Africa?

Yes. The internet and WiFi. The new African babies won't go for that rubbish provided they have 24hr access to the Wi-Fi.