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TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 9:05pm On Oct 25, 2017
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TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 2:17am On Oct 25, 2017
abdullahi45:
How do you mean please expatiate.. Thanks
Apply for another short course related to your course. You will be given a new ecoe. Make sure the duration of the short course will equal your two years of study in Australia otherwise you don't stand a chance for graduate visa.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 2:14am On Oct 25, 2017
Solitin40:
I enjoyed your experience...abeg help with these questions

What was the rate at the airport 1 US$ to ?

Will it be easy to carry two suitcases(30kg) plus one carry on the train(Sydney Airport to Newcastle)

cc Westafrican
Should be fine.

You are allowed three pieces of luggage per seat booked.

One item of hand luggage and two other items checked into the luggage compartment or stowed at the end of your carriage.

Luggage check closes 30 minutes before the scheduled departure. Luggage should be checked in at least 30 minutes before departure at all attended NSW TrainLink stations.

Baby strollers, prams and capsules, along with golf clubs and collapsible wheelchairs are classed as hand luggage.

It is recommended you invest in travel insurance to cover your belongings during your trip.

Bag inspections

Passengers may be required to present and open checked and non-checked baggage for inspection prior to travel on NSW TrainLink services. NSW TrainLink reserves the right to refuse travel to any passengers who does not comply with such a request. NSW TrainLink will provide a refund of the proposed trip.

Luggage storage at Central Station

There are storage services available at Central Station for NSW TrainLink Regional customers at the luggage collection and drop-off counter on Platform 1.

Short term storage is available for NSW TrainLink customers with a ticket for travel that day. There is a charge of $4.40 for each item stored. No luggage will be accepted for storage overnight.

SmarteCarte also provide long or short-term secure baggage storage. There are charges for luggage storage. They also have a range of luggage accessories and provide bag wrapping services. For more information, visit the Baggage Storage website.

Location: Grand Concourse at Central Station in Sydney - opposite Platform 1.
Operating hours: 6am to 10pm daily.

https://transportnsw.info/travel-info/using-public-transport/regional-booking-travel-information/luggage-on-nsw-trainlink
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:43pm On Sep 15, 2017
Haliru001:
It's for people who already have a degree in nursing. They have a bachelor of nursing (graduate entry) which is 2 years. But I can't go for that cos I'd have to apply for a new visa if I wantu drop down
Does it mention you cannot register as a NURSE in Australia at completion of your program?

If it is a law in Australia to have a nursing degree before a masters in nursing then no matter the Uni you study at you will be affected.

-Make sure your Uni is a Crisco provider
-You take up a Physiology and Anatomy courses
-You complete a 120 Unit credit hours
-And you score more than 6.5 Ielts (all bands) you should be able to register as a Nurse in Australia
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:48am On Sep 15, 2017
Haliru001:
The masters done in western Sydney doesn't make one eligible to become a registered nurse upon completion of the program. I'd check la Trobe university. Thanks
Really? How did you find out?
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 9:40am On Sep 15, 2017
femo86:
cc WestAfrican, naijaaussie
1} Intended study in Aussie is for 2 years. Will the 15m be sufficient for visa application and survival in Aussie?
NO it won't. You may be fortunate for it to cover only your tuition fees.

2} What are the chances of working while schooling in terms of how much to earn, hours to work etc?
Depends on how many courses you register per semester/trimester. You may be able to work 5 days a week inclusive of weekends. With 8hrs /$30^hr of work a week you may be able to earn 900-1000 after tax

3} Can Mr. A wife accompany him to Aussie and also what are her chances of working, if she successfully accompany him?
Mr A can bring his family as dependants on his visa. He must be able to prove to the immigration he has sufficient funds for the whole family. Mr A's partner would be able to work unlimited hours as long as they have current visas.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:19am On Sep 15, 2017
Haliru001:
Hey guys! Is there anyone here who has transferred to a masters of nursing program (one with accreditation and upon graduation would be eligible to become a registered nurse). I'm looking for universities with affordable tuition fees and good location, in terms of jobs. All the ones I've seen are quite expensive (university of Queensland, university of Sydney and Monash university). Thanks
Have you checked on Western Sydney Uni and LaTrobe Uni?
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:15am On Sep 15, 2017
omokay80:
hello house,it will be 2 months by 17th of sept since I applied to university of western Australia and up till now,no news from them. has anyone been in this situation b4?is it normal? I am applying for Feb 2018 intake.
Its a bit early to grant your visa as you still have plenty of time before resumption date.
You cannot work on your student visa until you commence your studies.
Usually student visas are granted 3-4months before resumption day.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:12am On Sep 15, 2017
Lovelychy:
@iomoge2 and @ WestAfrican thanks for the feedbacks, have been following up on the links and tips y'all gave. Please a quick one if I want to fund my doctorate,for the visa application will I be asked for a SOA? also will I be required to pay for any part of the tuition first. Bless
By all means you need to provide soa and make part of your tuition for ecoe
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:03am On Sep 13, 2017
mich4prof:
Thank u once again. But why I am really worried is dat d RTP scholarship cannot be deferred according to d university. It's for 3 years PhD.
But I know u can apply for admission with an IELTS result of close expiry date, as long as it hasn't expired on d date of application. So I was thinking same can also apply here.
Go ahead and applt for your visa with the ielts you have. In the meanwhile, go and write pte or ielts, before your case officer request for another ielts (that's if he/she does) then your ielts/pte result must have come out. Worse case scenario would be that your case officer may advice you to defer your admission for the next intake.
TravelRe: General Guide To Australian Permanent Resident Visa Through Skilled Migration. by WestAfrican: 11:55am On Sep 12, 2017
go4value:
@NBB2012 @Bellong
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Can you kindly rephrase your question(s)? Thanks
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:19pm On Sep 11, 2017
Lovelychy:
@Naijaaussie and @WestAfrican I throw away respectful salute your way. Pls I need info on how to go about my doctorate student visa application as I don't have a scholarship yet. Additional info on how to go about scholarship applications will be much appreciated. Bless
In some cases universities offer direct scholarship. You may want to email or ring up some unis to find out about them.
Mind you research topics matters too.

http://www.scholars4dev.com/4950/australia-scholarships/
https://www.findaphd.com/search/phd.aspx?CID=AU
https://www.education.gov.au/search/site/Post%20graduate%20award
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 3:59pm On Sep 11, 2017
Twallace:
Thank you so much sir. You have lifted my spirit this morning. Will my visa be up to 2 years (for 1.5 years course) ? I guess I will be applying for the short course when I'm in Aussie, right?
Yes. You apply for the short course before your visa elapses. In that case you will be given a new ecoe to apply for another student visa for sort of a new program which will inturn get you to a 2yr study mark.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 1:09pm On Sep 11, 2017
Twallace:
Hello boss. Thanks for all your help. I'm applying for a course that has duration of 1.5 years (because of the cheap cost). Please what can I do to make up the remaining 5 months, can I apply for another course after that?

What is my fate after 1.5 years in Aussie?
Keep your last two major course for last. Defer if need be or take one major course pluse additional or borrowed course and do same for the last major course. Again you could just apply for another short course to add up to the 2yrs mark.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 12:59am On Sep 11, 2017
chimax1:
Your contributions to this thread is wonderful and well appreciated. Pls what can you tell me about Federation University ballarat. Am about sending my certified documents to them.
Am applying for a 2 yr course with them, I have a total of 5.5mill available to me, will this be enough to pay for my coe and oshc as well as proof of funds for visa application
I plan on having another sponsor, I also have proof of landed properties as part of my docs.

Pls will this fly?
Been to Federation Uni in Ballarat, beautiful but not that huge compare to other unis i.e. Unsw and UON. Well its roughly about 1.5hrs away from Melbourne. Met a few Nigerian students then who live in Melbourne while studying in Ballarat.

I think it could be considered a regional area you have to cross check on that. If it is, you can get a 5 points on your PR csol application after graduation.

N5.5m is roughly AUS17k (+/-). Am not sure what the deposit for that school is but lets say it is $10k then you are left with $7k. Usually the oshc and some of your first term tuition fees are included in your ecoe.
Assuming your tuition fees is $60k for two years (not sure what course you have applied for). Anyhow, you do need a sponsor to proof they have sufficient fund to cover some of your tuition fees plus living expenses in Australia.

Some people here have claimed not to imclude a bank statement in there application. You may want to verify that and follow suit but then you need to have your SOA ready incase your CO request for it.

Some of us here mag find this link relevant im finding schools, what the tuition fees of your course is and who to contact for further information.

http://cricos.education.gov.au/Course/CourseList.aspx?LocationID=5606

Godspeed.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:47am On Sep 10, 2017
mykel25:
Thanks boss! I really appreciate... Heard getting a job depend in states... Heard it easy to get job Melbourne and Sydney and d pay us good Tho d standard if living is high... Cheap schools are outside this two states... What do u advice, Wch state will you advice and which school
Yes that are expensive to live in but you have greater opportunities in those big cities too.

Some ppl live in Sydney and study in Newcastle / Wollongong Unis. Since they are 2hrs and 1:30hrs respectively by car.

There is no much difference in tuition fees accross Unis in Australia. Accommodation are different due to job opportunities.

You will earn 5 points on PR application via csol if you study in a regional area. Northern Territory, Tasmania are considered regional areas but finding jobs in those areas may prove difficult.

If I was in your situation, I do find a school in Newcastle or Wollongong, live in Sydney then shuttle to school for lectures as lectures are once or twice a week depending on the courses you have chosen for the semester / trimester.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:19am On Sep 09, 2017
mykel25:
Okay..... I have like 3M naira to to process Aussie uni
......want to know it that amount can get me there and if it get me there will I be able to complete my fees from my hustle?


If it can't get me there how much shd be d least amount I shd be looking out for
Some schools ask for deposit of $6-$12k Aus before your ecoe can be sent to you.

For instance, if your school has requested you pay $6k as initial deposit you may want to ask yourself; is my 3m able to pay for my visa application fees, school deposit, flight ticket, accommodation for a month, feeding, and may be transport before you are able to settle in proper.

Its not that easy settling in a foreign land unless you have someone to guide you.

You may be fortunate to find a job immediately you arrive Aus. What if it doesn't happen? Whats your Plan B?

Like I ealier said, you should be able to pay up your tuition from the money you earn as long as you are hard working. Mind you marrying school and work isn't all that easy can be stressful atimes.

The trick is; work hard, play less, save more, pay your fees, graduate, find a job, apply for PR and ENJOY THE FRUIT OF YOUR LABOUR.

NB) If you intend to study below 2 years in Australia you stand NO CHANCE of remaining in Australia after your studies unkess you have the required points to straight away apply for your PR.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 6:03am On Sep 09, 2017
mykel25:
Pls can I get your whatsapp contact... Wanna get all hint b4 taking a leap.... Thank for replying me... I can raise like 3M naira.... Dunno if m good to to..... My friend in Aussie said I shd get atleast 20000AUD
Please ask your question(s) here if i am wrong someone else can put you through. Thank you.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 10:44pm On Sep 08, 2017
mykel25:
Please I'm new on this thread on the verge of travelling to UK for MBA buh after reading the thread on UK that MSC doesn't guarantee your stay in the UK else u marry I tot of putting more effort on Aussie my friend told me to prepare a sum of 20000CAD for my study and other expenses....that with that amount I can raise d balance...
I can only raise 3M aside d money needed to upgrade accounts during visa process.... What I want to know is the chances of working to complete my fees....i don't mind doing menial jobs....aw much can I make a month and is there consequences of breaking the working hour rule?
With your 20000CAD you are good to go.
Fees for 1-2yrs study is btw 25k-62kAUD pending on your course.
Accommodation could be anywhere $120-250 a week which also depends on location.
You could budget around $120-200 on food and $50 on fuel if you drive. (Estimated figures)

Australian gov. is aware most people bridge their working visa condition but they careless because employers need workers. They only care more when you tend not to attend school and maybe work cash in hand. In such cases you will be given a notification to give a compelling and compassionate reasons for your visa not to be cancelled.

If you are hard working and focused you could earn at least $1000 a week after tax.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:16am On Sep 06, 2017
Atimes the duration of your medical insurance does affect the length of your visa. Australia take health insurance seriously.

ideamaster:
For a 1 year course, I dont think there would be up to 6 additional months. My course was for 1.5 years. It finished June/July and the visa expired August ending, not even enough to attend convocation that held in September.

Also, I thought the post study/graduate visa was for those who met the Australian study requirement of 2 years study. Things may have changed though.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:10am On Sep 06, 2017
Thanks Sis.
Australia is a land of numerous opportunities. Even thou taxes could be high but you still get them back at retirement via superannuation.

Naijaaussie:
@WestAfrican. You don't need to argue with her @Jewelstone. She doesn't seem to know much, she is new in Australia and thinks she knows it all with her little Youth work/disability/student nurse experience. She needs to learn more and move all around Australia. Workers in Western Australia & ACT earn way better than those in NSW.

As a doctorate student, I get about $28k per annum as living stipends and I also work as a casual academic at the rate of $120 per hour. Most times I work as little as 25hrs per week and still make $2,067 (after tax) weekly.

I have other friends with jobs such as: physiotherapist, occupational therapist (not management level) that make about $5,000 forthrightly after tax. Other friends that are surveyors, technicians etc (with just diploma certificates) get more than the aforementioned rates.

@JewelStone, please do not mislead people on here. You are not well informed. I think you should restrict your responses to study visa issues!
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 11:01am On Sep 06, 2017
Sorry darl. I think you need to read my post again you are getting it all mixed up.

The more you live in Australia the more you get to understand the country more. Even Australians themselves hardly see the opportunities they have here.

Sorry to quote you but i will let it slide.

JewelStone:
So in your logic, only people who make $2k weekly after tax can afford to buy food ingredients from Asian/African shops and cook their own meals? Yeah I know that casual rates are higher cos I'm a casual staff, but you'll still work your ass off to make $2k weekly after tax. Anyways, I'm done talking about salaries blah blah blah, don't have nothing to gain or lose.

Please nobody should quote me further on this topic.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 8:27am On Sep 06, 2017
Lolz please calm down you are just being an ignoramus. I am not a student i was years ago and I know whats its like being one.
I gave someone an advice on how to live a simple life and comcluded by saying unless they are sponsored or earn above $2k after tax the advice won't be relevant for them. What is wrong with that? You accused me of giving false information and showing off (surprised).

I told you of two people I personally know who earn above $2k a week after tax. Is that example not sufficient?

You can work for companies or oragnizations here as a casual worker and still be paid more than a permanent staff. Same applies to those who work for agencies too.

If you know an organization that pays 150k/yr find out from a casual work from that same company if they don't get $40-$70k as extra loading.

Refer to your previous post and you will realize you are the ome showing off.

JewelStone:
When I asked how many people in Australia make that much $$$, I was expecting figures and stats but you came back with a story about two people "you know". I'm sorry if my post seems like keyboard war to you, that wasn't my intention at all. But next time you don't have facts to back up your claims, just buzz off. Or better still, quit showing off . People who are really well off don't show off ffs.


The first link is the list of highest paying jobs in Australia which consist mostly of surgeons, medical doctors, company directors, senior civil servants and politicians.

The second link is just fake salary quotes from Agencies who are looking for casual staff, not fulltime registered nurse jobs. I'm a student nurse, my tutors and some of colleagues are registered nurses, and nobody makes close to $200,000 per annum on a fulltime job without stress and working deadly hours. You would have to be a nursing manager with heaps of experience and lot's of stress to make over $150,000 in Sydney which has the highest salaries in the country! Please stop misleading people with fake stories and links
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 6:10am On Sep 06, 2017
You are driving too fast.
You need to read that post again and have a fun understanding of it. I just don't want to get into keyboard war with you.

JewelStone:
So just a few people then? You made it sound like it's the norm. I made $2000-$2500 weekly after tax during uni break as a Youth Worker. But I have reduced my hours cos it wasn't worth it; I was paying way too much taxes and my body hurt so bad that it took 1 week of nightly massages to recover! Youth work is easy with excellent Sydney rates, wouldn't have tried that with hard jobs such as factory, disabilty, warehouse, construction etc cos it's suicide mission.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 6:07am On Sep 06, 2017
http://www.afr.com/leadership/careers/australias-top-50-highest-paying-jobs-20161204-gt3uzx

https://www.seek.com.au/registered-nurse-jobs?salaryrange=120000-999999&salarytype=annual

Ofd course you need a degree and some level of experience to earn $2000 / week without stress.
Again when i mentioned about earning $2000 as a student I was only stressing the need of living a simple life in order to save more for more important things.

Mozoe:
As in ehn.
Lol
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 5:07am On Sep 06, 2017
My friend work with Sydney Trains as an Engineer and makes $3200 before tax. And other IT guys make $80 an hour.


JewelStone:
If you're selecting food because of your dietary requirements, that's understandable. Always safety first. Not all western food are raw, and you can always avoid foods that you are allergic. Anyways, it's more economical to cook your own food


What has this got to do with food and what the poster was asking? $2,000 weekly after tax amounts to about $140,000 per annum. Whether sponsored, citizen or whatever, how many people in Australia make this sort of money comfortably without breaking their backs and working like slaves with no breaks, and which industries precisely?

Always trying so hard to show off much? You better not make someone back home commit suicide based on stories.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 2:41am On Sep 06, 2017
Its just not worth it eating half cooked or some raw food and finding yourself in the hospital.
For this country TIME NA MONEY.

davodyguy:
God bless you.

Back in Nigeria, I don't eat what you call crab(Akan in Yoruba) and Cray fish/prawn(Ede in yoruba)

They have to do with my health and nothing more.

I don't even drink alcohol or can stand near smokers.

Hence, I focus on what my system can take.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 2:28am On Sep 06, 2017
Had a 2 weeks holiday down South of NSW and North of Vic.
Here are a few photos to share.
Files are too large sad

TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 2:09am On Sep 06, 2017
davodyguy
Try to stick with the food your system is used to. Reasons are you will save your self health and money.
Western food should be eaten as a treat. There are heaps of Asian cum African shops in Sydney and Newie.
All you need is a large deep freezer, microwave (gas/electric stove) and few food containers.
Cook your food in a large pot, plate your meal portion into those containers and store them in the freezer. Then use when necessary.
You really don't need those tips if your are sponsored or earn above $2k weekly after tax.
I assure you you do need them if you are paying your tuition fees and may be looking after family back home.

Omooloriredade:
Nigerian foods that you eat regularly? Biko try something new. Explore the array of foods on offer, it'll add to the 'experience '.
TravelRe: General Australian Student Visa Enquiries Part 3 by WestAfrican: 12:22pm On Sep 05, 2017
aragonbaba:
Goodmorning guys, Please i need your candid advice, my brother was given admission to study Engineering management in the University of Newcastle but the course duration is for a period of 1 year. My question mow is ;
1. What is the duration of visa he will be issued?
2. Can he apply for PR after study?
3. Is he eligible for post study work visa?
4. Do you advice he goes ahead with this admission?

Gurus in the house, your candid advice will be highly appreciated.
http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2017/06/30/want-migrate-australia-2017-18-skilled-occupations-list-announced

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists

1) He may be given a 1.6yrs visa. That will allow him to prolly attend his convocation cum apply for a graduate visa that will allow him continue to work legally whilst gathering his documents for PR application.

2) Yes he definitely can. Must have the required points.

3) Yes he is as explained in question one. He may need to write an english exam before he can apply.

4) Look into the urls above and see if he could apply for PR via Engineering Technologist.

Godspeed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Inauguration Day Letter Obama Left For Trump by WestAfrican(op): 12:08am On Sep 05, 2017
Solitin40:
Hello sir we need you also miss you at the Australian thread how have you been?
Are you now in Australia? Which of the threads sir?
Foreign AffairsInauguration Day Letter Obama Left For Trump by WestAfrican(op): 2:31pm On Sep 03, 2017
Inauguration Day letter Obama left for Trump


STORY HIGHLIGHTS
"This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success," Obama wrote
The words reveal a conciliatory outgoing commander in chief
(CNN)During his final moments in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama folded into thirds a handwritten letter to Donald Trump, slid it into an envelope, and in neat capital letters addressed it to "Mr. President."

Now, the contents of that letter -- the last direct communication between the 44th and 45th presidents -- have emerged for the first time after CNN obtained a copy.

With latest jabs, Trump-Obama relationship reaches historic nastiness

Full letter

Dear Mr. President -

Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.

This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.

First, we've both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard.

Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It's up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that's expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.

Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.

And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches.

Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.

Good luck and Godspeed,
BO


Four pieces of advice

The words reveal a conciliatory outgoing commander in chief with four items of advice for his successor, whose fitness for the job he'd spent the previous months openly questioning.
"Congratulations on a remarkable run," Obama wrote in his opening line. "Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure."

Written out longhand on White House stationery and slipped into the top drawer of the Resolute Desk, the 275-word letter captures an outgoing president eager to instill in Trump the vast responsibilities and uncertain parameters of the job.

Obama, when writing the letter, didn't disclose the content even to his closest aides. Since then, however, Trump has shown the letter to visitors in the Oval Office or his private White House residence. CNN obtained a copy from someone Trump showed it to.

"This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful," Obama wrote. "Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years."

Obama reminds Trump, a billionaire businessman, that they've both been "blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune."
"Not everyone is so lucky," Obama said. "It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard."

He advises Trump that American leadership is "indispensable" and encourages him "through action and example" to sustain post-Cold War international order.

And he offers a warning against eroding the tenets of democracy in the name of political gain.
"We are just temporary occupants of this office," Obama wrote. "That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for."

"Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them," he said.

That passage, read seven months after Trump took office, appears prescient. Trump has been accused of flouting rule of law in his broadsides against federal judges and his own attorney general. His verbal assaults on Congress have led to charges that he's disregarding the constitutionally enshrined separate but equal branches of government.
Trump, however, is said to cherish Obama's missive. Upon reading it on Inauguration Day, he attempted to place a phone call to the former president expressing his gratitude, according to both a current White House official and a former Obama aide. His predecessor was traveling west to California with his family, and couldn't take the call.

When one of Obama's aides reached back out to the White House to return the call, the new president's staffers said Trump just wanted to say thank you for the note -- and wanted Obama to get the message. The men never connected directly.
Trump's strain with Obama marks departure from presidential fraternity

Trump's strain with Obama marks departure from presidential fraternity
"It was long. It was complex. It was thoughtful," Trump said of the letter the week after taking office in an interview with ABC News. "And it took time to do it, and I appreciated it."
During the interview, Trump showed the news crew the letter, pulling it from its envelope. He wouldn't read it out loud.
In writing Trump the letter, Obama was continuing a long tradition set by past presidents. He received his own handwritten note from George W. Bush on the day of his inauguration counseling him of uncertain days ahead.
"
There will be trying moments. The critics will rage. Your 'friends' will disappoint you," Bush wrote. "But, you will have an Almighty God to comfort you, a family who loves you, and a country that is pulling for you, including me."
Eight years earlier, Bill Clinton offered an optimistic view of the job.

"The burdens you now shoulder are great but often exaggerated," he wrote Bush in 2000. "The sheer joy of doing what you believe is right is inexpressible."
And in 1992, George H.W. Bush wrote Clinton that "your success now is our country's success."

"I am rooting hard for you," he concluded. "Good luck."
Obama's letter is nearly twice as long as his predecessors' and includes more specific pieces of advice. But like Clinton and both Bushes, he offers a view of the job that accounts both for its thrill but also its ability to humble.

"Take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family," Obama wrote. "They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches."

Since reading the letter for the first time, Trump hasn't spoken or seen Obama. Instead he's frequently criticized the former president, rolled back significant elements of Obama's agenda, and privately obsessed about comparisons between himself and the man he replaced.

Obama, meanwhile, has weighed in selectively on Trump since leaving office. He criticized decisions to withdraw from the Paris climate accord and repeal Obamacare, but did not directly address Trump's equivocal comments about white supremacists in Virginia, even as others reacted with withering criticism.

Before all that, however, Obama wrote that he was willing to remain in touch.

"Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can," he wrote in his sign-off.

"Good luck and Godspeed."

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