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Indeed op. Hook up with the rest here. Perhaps the title of that thread should be changed?

Chibuebem: PS: Let us not delve into the subject of the integrity of Gods word.

lol

Mr Troll: @wiegraf you suprise me. A few posts ago you said no one takes him serious and then you turn around to take him serious its a lost cause man. . . The rot is deep.
you 've got it.

I have to occasionally show sheeple why they're sheeple, so I can claim I tried normal reason with them, failed, then proceeded to being an a$$ as the next logical step..

Doesn't really matter that it's a completely wasted effort on a good and proper sheeple, it's more or else (dreaded and silly) politics

Seun: After reading manmustwac's so-called explanation,
I am now 100% sure that I made the right decision.

He's not a good fit for my e-team, at the very least, &
it seems that he's deliberately trying to start a civil war.

And you're a great model of consistency, setting equal standards for all involved. What a gallant, brave knight. Doing this for the benefit of all.

How you can view his attempts to address the situation as trying to start a civil war is one of the funnier things I've seen on these threads.

Relevant
https://www.elitetrack.com/images/blog/ostrich_head_in_ground_full.jpg

Chibuebem: you think hell is JUST a place God torments one for eternity for rejecting him. Smh. Your example of r.ape is incoherent. Here's the real deal, You choose Sin and satan over God who created you and expect not to be punished? God punishes sin. Remember sin is bad. The only way out of sin is trusting him. You wrongly accuse God of blackmail, meanwhile he is a holy God that cannot allow sin to go unpunished. You cannot escape sin, he provides a way. You reject it too. You choose seperation and punishment. He punishes your sin, as you cannot be in sin before him for eternity, you go to the place of the sinful- hell. I think the main(real) torture in hell will come from within. The weeping. The torture of seperation from everything of God. I cannot imagine it. God loves you wiegraf. He does. Throw pride away and know the depth of real life. Fellowship with God.

And what was that you were saying about threats and blackmail? I'm proud because I don't believe your obvious nonsense, yet you aren't despite insisting I subscribe to your beliefs using just a...... storybook to back up your claims? No evidence, just the storybook and some risible 'logic', yet you expect me to concede?

Stop threatening people. It's uncouth, foo.lish, rude, pathetic etc.. I mean, why should anyone be afraid of santa?

Then again, as you've already proven, you have nothing to offer other than threats. Which is usually the only tool you guys have left when confronted with reason. Threats and LALALALALALALA, or whargarbl. You seem to be a pro at that.

See why you can't be taken seriously?

Chibuebem: WE DO NOT GET INTO GODS KINGDOM BY DOING GOOD, WE GET THERE BY ACCEPTING JESUS SALVATION BY FAITH.

These are your words, in bold. You even bolded them.. yourself.

So, this is the 'sin' which you speak of. Simply not accepting Jesus, doing good has nothing to do with it. This 'sin' is bad, simply because you say so. Bad enough to warrant torturing another being, his very own creation that he 'loves' (you should look up the meaning of the word 'love' as well, though that might not help, as you may genuinely be a sociopath if you truly believe this nonsense), for eternity.

There is absolutely no way you can deny this except by diving deeper into delusion or threatening, IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE RA.PE SCENARIO.

Love me, or suffer.. Nothing else matters.

Exactly like serial killers as well, who create lairs for victims.

vedaxcool: This is what we have to put up with when one whose family thinks of him as bastard and hence disinherit him as a result, is left to roam the internet un- supervised hence you might think I hold the keys to your inheritance but I don't .

Indeed, my treatment at the hands of muslims is an excellent example of the tolerance of islam. Surely, you approve of any such actions, no? But please, don't praise all of them abeg, a few were actually quite foo.lish and dared think the situation a shame.

You also seem to be implying there would be something wrong with a man not relying on family resources to survive. Is this an islamic thing as well?

But wait, this has nothing to do with your gay.gotry. Please address these

https://memepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/thread-originator-joseph-ducreux.jpg

https://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/345/125/92a.png
https://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2011/08/4chan-1314548966107.jpg
[img]http://www.troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-post-in-gay-threads-but-when-i-doit-means-the-op-is-a-gay.jpg[/img]
https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1346/39/1346395054502.jpg
https://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/430/939/f21.jpg
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/302/534/661.jpg
https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/240/443/ffe.png
https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/571/022/271.jpg
https://assets.diylol.com/hfs/65a/802/525/resized/op-is-gay-meme-generator-hey-look-op-is-a-gay-ee2550.jpg
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/302/530/b53.png
https://i.imgur.com/cNc1M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o22Ic.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vRVr1.jpg
[img]http://i.eho.st/pg7sf5zc.gif[/img]
https://i.imgur.com/ykj2r.gif
https://i.imgur.com/tol5g.gif
https://i.imgur.com/lEQ5PBt.gif
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/258/972/3b1.jpg

There seems to be a consensus..

And finally, seems you know quite a lot about me. Hope you've not been stalking me as well. If that's the case, please, let me categorically state that I'm not interested. Support ghey rights != ghey...

If you're a god-level trap though, I might reconsider..

Seun: I have decided to appoint one or two born-again Christian moderators in this section to replace the atheist I removed.

This is, unquestionably, wrong.

So muslims get rewarded for bad behaviour.

It's disgraceful.

Seun: Then why have I decided to appoint two born-again Christian moderators to take the place of manmustwac?

Yes, please. I'm completely confused, where exactly is the logic here. Exactly why are you doing this? Did you intend to replace him with a muslim before?

This is ignoring the fact there was a perfectly good moderator around, so it's completely needless. When in the world has MMW been aggressive? I must have missed something. Else, frankly, this is both petty and cowardly.

Chibuebem: I never implied anything jabout hell, it wasn't even on my mind.

You did.

As for the rest, you didn't address anything at all. Just threatened, again... and whargarbl

Chibuebem: Do not be deceived sir. Hell was created for those who choose to go against God. He is not putting you in hell because he hates you, but because you choose not to stay in his kingdom for eternity.

Chibuebem: The devil is against you, he is the one who has poisoned your mind towards the God who loves you.

Are you saying that man has no choice but to love god, but the devil is the one corrupting the plan? Then how exactly is it man's fault that he's been corrupted, considering he did not have a choice in the first place?

No choice = no free will. If he puts you in hell then, he would clearly be punishing you for his own actions. You had no choice but to do exactly as he programmed.

Even if the devil corrupted you, then that would mean either he created a faulty product or it's the devil's fault, as the devil was the one who sabotaged the dish, no? I make pepper soup, then start whining about how there's too much salt in it, and blame the soup. Or someone else comes in and adds salt (someone I let roam around the premises despite knowing full well he'll ruin the soup, no less), then rather than blaming him I proceed to blame the soup. Genius.

If you assert man has free will and it was our individual choice, not his, to reject his love, that's cool. However, now he's roasting one simply because s/he used her/his free will to make the decision not to sleep with him. You could be a total saint, save trillions of lives at great personal cost even, it doesn't matter. The 'crime' of not loving god is enough to justify him roasting you for eternity.

Just as it's your sister's fault she failed to love me against her will. I will therefore now ra.pe her for eternity in my basement for such an egregious transgression, a basement I planned and went out of my way to build just for any female that dares not love me. Serial killers are well known to do that.

So, choose one, man either has free will or not, both don't look good imo. This is fairly straight forward and simple.

Chibuebem: For pete's sake He died to save you from hell. See this verse:
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Romans 8:31&31(KJV)

Rich, perhaps I should look for some story book and use it to explain why there's a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow. But disregarding that, why does an omnipotent god need to kill himself in order to save us from the basement?

So, I need to kill myself in order to prevent myself from ra.ping your sister for eternity.

...Actually wait, I will still torture her for eternity if she doesn't bed me? The difference being, before I would have ra.ped her regardless of whether she loved me or not before. But now, since I killed myself (and conveniently resurrected), I can now at least give her the option of loving me. If she chooses not to, then I'll ra.pe her for eternity.

How magnanimous of me.

Chibuebem: GOD is not seeking to blackmail you or to throw you into hell at the slightest offense, he is for you! For petes sake, he loves you, and he is for you. The devil is against you, he is the one who has poisoned your mind towards the God who loves you. God is the one who reaches out in love to you everyday.

Serial killers sometimes love their victims as well. Doesn't mean the victims are obligated to respond.

And don't make me post the definition of blackmail again. IT CLEARLY IS A TEXTBOOK CASE OF BLACKMAIL

Bumping freedom of expression islamic style

Action plan is to suffer and smile?

Chibuebem: when did I blatantly imply this?

wiegraf: You still sound confused. No one with half a brain would take you seriously. Likable exterior or not, all you've done is threaten

Anyone with the slightest deduction skills will notice it. Even you know you implied it, even if not blatantly, no?

Chibuebem: But yes, man has a choice, but God chose to save you Mr, because he loves you. He never came to threaten men into his kingdom with hell. No, he won us over with his love. For God so loved the world that he gave, he did not threaten, he saw mans seperation, and he gave the way of salvation. You were never created to be seperated from him, but he wont force you into his kingdom where you'll walk in his will and purpose. That would be blackmail. This discussion is about Gods love, and your response to it.

google: black·mail

noun /ˈblakˌmāl/

https://www.google.com.ng/search?num=30&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Ae&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=blackmail&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=E9IDUqvIFomN0AX604GYAQ&ved=0CCwQkQ4&biw=1145&bih=641

The action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person

- they were acquitted of charges of blackmail


Money demanded in this way

- we do not pay blackmail


The use of threats or the manipulation of someone's feelings to force them to do something

- out of fear, she submitted to Jim's emotional blackmail
- they are trying to blackmail us with hunger

Erm, exactly how is it not blackmail as it stands now? Again, god went out of his way to create hell, yes? He will actively put you in hell himself if you don't meet his demands, yes? It's not like it's something that's beneath his control. It's do as I say or I will roast you in hell forever, yes?

You call do as I say, against reason, love? Like posted elsewhere on these forums (by frak3.16 I think), if I told your sister to love me or I would lock her up in my basement and r.ape her for eternity, you'd describe that as love?

So regardless of what bill gates does, how many lives he saves or enriches, at a personal cost to him even, he's going to hell simply because he refuses to sleep with a lunatic?

Chibuebem: In light of recent discussions, Lemme quote some passages:
Jesus said, "You're absolutely right. Take it from me: Unless a person is born from above, it's not possible to see what I'm pointing to---to God's kingdom."
John 3:3(the message: remix)

Jesus said, "you're a respected teacher of Israel and you don't know these basics? Listen carefully. I'm speaking sober truth to you. I speak only of what I know by experience; I give witness only to what I have seen with my own eyes. There is nothing secondhand here, no hearsay. Yet instead of facing the evidence and accepting it, you procastinate with questions. If I tell you things that are plain as the hand before your face and you don't believe me, what use is there in telling you of things you can't see, the things of God?
John 3:10-12 (the message: remix)

We saw it, we heard it, and now we're telling you so you can experience it along with us, this experience of communion with the Father and his Son, Jesus Christ. Our motive for writing is simply this: we want you to enjoy this, too. Your joy will double our joy!
1 John 1:3-4 (the message: remix)


You see, we experience God, and you say he is an impossibility cuz you don't know him or understand his ways. We know him, we know he is Love. We have joy and peace. We are secure. You cannot explain fact away. There is no excuse for you not to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour and Confess him. God loves us you see, he knew we were fighting against him, and still fight against him, but Jesus still died for us you see. He came to save us from sin and the dominion of darkness and satan. Thats the simple message of truth. All you need to do is believe and confess.

What happens if one doesn't accept this 'obvious' truth (which is usually made clear to you is non-existent, let alone obvious) you speak of?

This discussion is about hell, no? A contraption yah'weh went out of his way to build, yes?

This isn't you'll end up in hell if you do so and so, this is I'll put you in hell if you do so and so, yes?

vedaxcool: I noticed mmc name has been wiped off the religion section moderators, mmc wetin happen , did u resign, any way I wish u the best in your future endeavour. Happy holidays.

As you're wont to.


Perhaps we need a 'bigoted closeted homo' section

Chibuebem: who seems confused? Lol. You might not take me seriously, but someone will, someone will read and understand.

You still sound confused. No one with half a brain would take you seriously. Likable exterior or not, all you've done is threaten

Religion of piss breeding harmony, i see..

Who owns nl, islamists or seun?

onyfrank: gud question. D world must b a drama.

I call it big brother earth, ie assuming GOD!!, but you guys just assume i'm blindly mocking you


@mus~~

You failure of an I Need To Procrastinate. You have all this time, yet are alredy on it? What happened to the last minute syndrom? I envy you...

Chibuebem: thats all you do then?? Mock?

You seem confused. Have you noticed anyone taking you seriously?

Mr Troll: ^^^
i bet your church folks marvel at your pristine eloquence.

What's fascinating about this is the fact that if you strikeout the words I do here, it becomes pristine sarcasm. Once you add in those words though, I don't know what to make of it...

Mayhaps despair? Can't tell..

musKeeto: Ultimate Troll.. That would account for congenital diseases like that kid with the imperforate anus on front page..

Jesusfingchrist.jgp

Goddamit god. goddamit...


@mus, how town brah?

Or a bill gates. Who answers his 'prayers'?

Not god? But when an oyedepo buys a jet, it's god.....

Exactly what is going on here?

And to compound on this, the omnixx.x. So, is the omnipotent god letting the devil corrupt, or is he powerless? Is he simply the ultimate troll?

Mysteriousnessesseseesesses

GeneralShepherd: Humans will always find what they will pervert,so as to cover for our innate desire to discriminate...

Take away religion,then we have colour,take away colour then we'll have sexual orientation,social class,level of education,language,tribe..as long as we occupy this earth their will always be discrimination,

And this popular belief that without religion the world will be a better place is based on sentiments not on hard facts and please don't start quoting Sweden for me cos then I'll reply with Vietman which is irreligious and still corrupt and poor.

For starters, you recognize religion is divisive, but have no problem with adding another baseless reason to discriminate? One as harmful as religion, no less?

More bad guys were needed to fit the narrative. Traditional jews who rejected jesus were then added as main antagonists, simples.

You need bad guys vs heros (eg martyrs). Muslims have kaffirs for instance. Without kaffirs how do they spread the hate and fear? The us vs them? When things are fine and everyone's happy less reasons to become rreligious, see the west and its gradual relegation of religion into an irrelevant nuisance

Jews can readily recognize they're being made victims because.....they are victims. Just like black and gheys.

Note how many blacks are extra quick to see racism but are the most homo.phobic tools possible. Laudable hipocrisy. We can recognize we're victims when faaced with racism because.....we're victims.

Gheys aren't victims though, they're the enemy. Hetero black can't recognize them as victims because we happen to not be ghey.

This s.hit happens all the time (especially with sheeple)

Jews are victims and can see it clearly. Not to mention jews have the whole 'special ones' thing, shall be persecuted, etc. Their own silly brand of brainwashing. Their general intelligence these days (at least the europeans) helps them circumvent some of the folly though

Chibuebem: for pete's sake, don't speak lightly of things you do NOT understand. The reason Jesus died is because we humans have the nature of sin. Reformation and trying to be good is all rags and imperfect rubbish before God. Did you read my post at all?

oh boy na wa....

Let me repeat, and let me see if you can address this at all or attempt to obfuscate with your foo.lish antics.

[size=15pt]Abeg, what's the difference between this and the illuminati crap? Or the 'end of days' drivel? Heck, talking snakes. He's just being a good xtian[/size]

Please try. Thank you.

FrostyZonn: [/b]

On the contrary. He's being a fanatic, which goes against everything Christ-like. It's people like him that empowers the atheist like yourself to talk thrash about Christianity and such.

Did you back this up in any way, my good eediot? Other than play the victim when it's clearly written in the bible that there were talking donkeys/fires/bushes/whatever?

Is that statement a lie in any form whatsoever? Questioning your beliefs now equals contempt??

I'm not the one playing the victim here, and I don't need to back up anything, you are doing an awesome job of it yourself.

Continue talking trash...

FrostyZonn: Bringing up a past thread of mine and proceeded to castigate it doesn't help your cause one bit. The obsession with religion continues...

From the antagonistic tone of your posts, it's clearly obvious that your hatred for Christians and such are clouding your objectivity. I can only imagine the hate infused saliva dripping down the corners of your mouth like a rapid dog's as you typed furiously on your keyboard

wiegraf, I only started to post those pics to silence the atheists that were coming right at my back like rapid dogs they are, left, right and centre, and judging from the silence that followed, it did as was intended.

So what's your point again??

That you never have one... However, and again, you're too deluded to notice...

But please, continue with the persecution complex and the indignity. The patent hypocrisy, etc etc. It's always entertaining.

The religion with most on the planet....always whining... lol

FrostyZonn: So you really expected me to dignify such an offensive question with a serious answer? A ridiculous query deserves a ridiculous response(although my response is anything but ridiculous).

And you think your baseless accusation was not ridiculous or offensive?

And in what way is the question offensive?

What flavor of foo.lish do you speak? It might help me search for a translator.

GOD!!??!!:
New International Version
Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and it said to Balaam, "What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?"

New Living Translation
Then the LORD gave the donkey the ability to speak. "What have I done to you that deserves your beating me three times?" it asked Balaam.

English Standard Version
Then the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?”

New American Standard Bible
And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?"

King James Bible
And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and she asked Balaam, "What have I done to you that you have beaten me these three times?"

International Standard Version
That's when the LORD enabled the donkey to speak. She asked Balaam, "What did I do to you that you would beat me in the space of only three footsteps?"

NET Bible
Then the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you that you have beaten me these three times?"

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then the LORD made the donkey speak, and it asked Balaam, "What have I done to make you hit me three times?"

King James 2000 Bible
And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto you, that you have smitten me these three times?

American King James Version
And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said to Balaam, What have I done to you, that you have smitten me these three times?

American Standard Version
And Jehovah opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said: What have I done to thee? Why strikest thou me, lo, now this third time?

Darby Bible Translation
And Jehovah opened the mouth of the ass, and she said to Balaam, What have I done to thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

English Revised Version
And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Webster's Bible Translation
And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said to Balaam, What have I done to thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

World English Bible
Yahweh opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?"

Young's Literal Translation
And Jehovah openeth the mouth of the ass, and she saith to Balaam, 'What have I done to thee that thou hast smitten me these three times?'

Perhaps you aren't xtian? So how's the question offensive?

Can you, or can you not back up your talk of 'thrash'? Or are you simply bent on playing the victim?

FrostyZonn: I only addressed what is currently threading in this forum and elsewhere [Atheist being their customary hypocritical selves].

Ahh, I see. So I was not addressing the topic when I point out your hypocrisy. You claim the op embarrasses xtians when you do so as well with nonsense of this level;

FrostyZonn: [img]http://4.bp..com/-MPC8CP_0Og0/Tke4-ft5kgI/AAAAAAAAAgI/Q7mDox9E75M/s1600/atheism.jpg[/img]
The perfect definition of atheism.

me: If you don't know what atheism is, consider you sharrap rather than embarrass yourself.

FrostyZonn: https://godwillbegod.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bizarro-atheist.jpg

me: This is bad, how?

FrostyZonn: https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/wp-content/blogs.dir/470/files/2012/04/i-730c0ada500d9893aed8f66430b27592-bousquet_atheist.jpg

me: This is bad, especially how?

Actually, I don't even think the purpose of the last 2 was to denigrate or criticize atheists, but you're so drunk on religious delusion that you missed it. If they were, then well... Thanks for giving us more reason to ponder on why sheeple are so foo.lish.

You do realize their implications, yes? That we won't go around bothering people with pamphlets out of sheer joblessness or stoopidity, or go about rioting for asinine reasons? Indeed, we have virtually no need to go rioting over anything at all directly related to atheism as, and you may have missed it, there is no such thing as 'atheistic dogma'. Or can you think of any doctrine all theists would go rioting over other than the right to believe in whatever fairy tale god fathers/mothers you respectively slave to?

But no, I suppose you're right. These are great, great evils. Bothering others over silly reasons and rioting are, on the other hand, good. We can start by lynching you because you dare claim there's a god.

Or you don't think the above both embarrassing and relevant?

you: Your likes claim you want nothing to do with religion, yet leaving it alone seems to be a huge task for you.

Habatically!

Exactly. So you will not dabble in politics, or infringe the rights of others, yes? Like say with gay rights, yes? Or the BH shennanigans, you won't blow up people who dare not follow the holy pe.do, yes? Coupled with all the other nonsense we have to deal with from religious folk, you will not bother with your nonsense when we clearly do not want to be troubled with it, yes?

If you won't, then I have no problems with you. If you do though, just in case you missed it, again~~

me: I want to address the foo.lishness of stating we're here because of a clearly non-existent god. Gods don't exist, true, no real need to get your pantsu all up in a twist over that. Religions, on the other hand, very clearly do, no? And they are oftentimes a pernicious cancer. So, as long as you guys cannot curb the excesses of your various religions, expect us saner folk to challenge those beliefs. As those beliefs feature a god as their basis, expect said imaginary god to be justly criticized as well, as it's a belief. And again, all such silly beliefs will be questioned so long as you're incapable of controlling yourselves.

Again, hope that helps?

FrostyZonn: I believe that God created the universe. As for your talking snake/donkey/fire/bush, you can believe whatever makes you happy.

Erm, there seems to be conspicuous lack of an answer here. Exactly where did you answer the question? Was that what I asked you?

I love it when you religious hypocrites pull out the indignity. You accused me of talking thrash, fail to back it up, then get defensive?

As to be expected, actually...

FrostyZonn: [/b]

On the contrary. He's being a fanatic, which goes against everything Christ-like. It's people like him that empowers the atheist like yourself to talk thrash about Christianity and such.

Ah, yes. I nearly forgot. You also happen to have opened this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/1373132/atheist-insecurities

Seems to me you gave me a lot of ammunition to talk 'thrash' about xtianity (or religion in general), or do you care to address it?

Is this a case of pot meeting kettle?

FrostyZonn: [/b]

On the contrary. He's being a fanatic, which goes against everything Christ-like. It's people like him that empowers the atheist like yourself to talk thrash about Christianity and such.

Erm, thrash?

Do you believe a talking snake/donkey/fire/bush/whatever walked the earths between 2 to 6 thousand years ago? Yes or no would suffice, thanks.