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GREAT GENIUS GOD

Returned to the real world? Don't worry, not particularly on your case (hope you've not setup your commune yet though, reconsider). I just want to show off some spiritual jazz I came across on the internets. Undeniable evidence for the case for auras.

For the first look at the x for like 30 seconds. The second the same, just anywhere.

Sam Milla: I was born into a Catholic home. I am a Christian by default. My best subject in primary school was Bible Knowlegde. Secondary school was different cos that was when i started wondering how Jonah stayed for days in the belly of a fish, Jesus walked on water, moses divided the sea etc. Something was fishy somewhere, i told myself. When i was a kid, one of my worst moments was during the family night prayers. I would just kneel down in front of sofa and sleep only to wake up with a knock after the prayers. Thank their Jesus that everyone would be deep in prayers and wont notice that one sheep was already in dreamland.
Imagine when it is my turn to pray. What punishment is larger than that?


My parents ruined it all by sending me to burden school. Everything Church stopped from there on.

from 1996 to 2002, i attended Church only once. Germany in 2002 august, the first thing i saw at the Dusseldorf hauptbanhof [train station] was two teenagers kissing infront of me.
Damn, so all the fasting and prayers from my parents for my safe journey was to send me to sincity. Something has to be wrong somewhere.
Well in a small city called Eisenhuttenstadt in Eastern Germany near Poland, i went to Church once, the Rev Father told us he was a farmer, now how was that possible? Back in my country, Rev Frs are career Reverends. Well i kept thinking until one afternoon, Anja (pronounced Ania in German} came along. Something led to Religious matters- Could you imagine that a white lady of 23 years in 2005 does not know about Jesus? How manage. Nah, impossible. After much talk about Jesus and Angels and Peter and Moses from me, she waved a hand and told me to face realities instead of stories. Someone just called my religion stories, and My Jesus didnt strike her down instantly, thats it. Well i am an atheist to the core. I have even won many people over and made them quit being scared of the effects of not praying etc.

lol

The way where we take like this jesus pass oyinbo sef...

Logicboy03:

Silly you, anyone who isn't xtian is evil.

D'aaaaaawwwwww

But also

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[quote author=frosbel][/quote]And that's the only thing you took from that post? Where was the implication I was afraid of anything anyways? I'm not the one being good because of the fear invisible daddy's tantrums.*smh*

You heathenous heretic to all and sundry, you're one to talk. If we were taking all these random claims literally, by the accounts of something like 99% of them, you deserve to be hanged . By your admission, you've changed your mind on these issues how many times? From catholic to atheist to pentecostal to xtian (the others aren't xtian? Can you clarify or would that require another 20+ page thread to sort out, and inevitably fail mind you) to satanist to republican to liverpool fan to vegetarian to one who loves marmalite, yet you now claim absolute knowledge. Well done...

JeSoul: ^no wahala. Just make sure you call out your douches within the boundaries of the rules. Cheers.

Will try. You do a decent job, thanks. Kudos

davidylan: one atheist who is at least honest enough to state the truth... much of the foundation for atheism is based on blind faith.

Good ser david, do you know what "faith" means? This is rather puzzling. Now, there are various configurations one could set for himself, but let's consider 2 (and a half)
options

A: one could choose to believe an angry dog came out of nowhere, created the universe in 6 days then chilled on the 7th. This before creating days mind you, and he(?) inexplicably also decreed we rest on the 7th day of every week as well or die and be tortured for eternity (wait for it, metaphor abi?). Anyways, this god hid all the evidence of his adventures to troll us, just because. Or there was something he, an omnipotent, was incapable of achieving which he's been unable to explain lucidly. And now he eagerly awaits a time, despite being 'timeless' (whatever that means), when he gets to burn quite a lot of us, his creations, for eternity. (btw, I would have thought eternity would mean we were in hell even right now, as strictly speaking it implies no beginning or end, so this could make sense. But what about heaven?).

Or

B: one could choose to accept we don't fully know. We have good clues and some important details of various processes, thanks to people who didn't just sit on their a$$es and comically shout "God" at anything that scared or marveled them btw (doing this in a manner that reminds one of those bushmen in 'gods must be crazy' dazzled by a coca-cola bottle). For instance, we know there was a mind blowing expansion that took place, and have CBR (which was predicted, note, by the big ba.ng model. No one had ever claimed or imagined such existed but the big b.ang asserted it was there, and lo and behold it really was there) and other pieces of evidence, both logical and physical, to back up claims of this expansion. We also know about the wonderful effects of genes and their mutations, and about natural selection. Effects we've observed either in labs or nature. Toss in artificial selection into the mix as a bonus to demonstrate just how quickly the effects of controlled versions of these phenomena can be observed when intelligent conscious beings with a purpose are involved, not the blind chance which dictates evolution in nature. We know of the logical outcome of these factors when we mix in a hell of a lot of time. We've got fossil records, in the thousands found so far, and not one found in an area which would contradict evolution.


So, note, option B has quite a lot of viable actual EVIDENCE, physical and logical, to back up its claims. Option A has a book which claims talking snakes and fires physically existed on this planet less than 6000 years ago as evidence. Just the book. To the great consternation of others who have to share this rock with followers of option A, its adherents claim with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that their version of events are what actually took place. To compound on the folly they claim absolute certainty despite the fact that even amongst themselves they aren't certain of the vast majority of their doctrine. Trinity? What is a soul? The only thing one could say they all subscribe to is the infamous sadist, yahweh. And do note, there are a lot of other cuckoos on this planet making absolute claims as well, using their own myths and fairy tales as 'evidence' of course.

So, who is running on blind faith? Do you even know what 'faith' means?

Now, option C (the half), excludes the inanity that is angry jealous men in the sky and settles for a blind watch maker, but where from did it come? It gained intelligence from where? Have you also noted just how haphazard everything seems, like say...chance... was heavily involved. In just about every single thing? But this group are at least saner than the brilliant adherents of group A (to be fair, not all followers of A are ridiculously silly, in public)

Either ways, most most importantly, really, what does this have to do with atheism? These are rather silly questions to be asking atheists, no? When did atheism = mainstream scientific community?

We have many atheists on these very boards who would tell you aliens, a la von daniken, were responsible for homo sapiens. Some in this group would claim said aliens were responsible for fine tuning all of evolution, but of course assert the aliens were not first cause. You are aware of the amount of ridicule these views can engender from a lot of the mainstream scientific community, yes? Not all atheists (or science for that matter) even accept the big b.ang model, yes? I don't even know how buddhism works, but I'm pretty sure there are views in there that would contradict science, no? Yet I understand there are buddhist atheists.

So, I'll ask you as well, when did atheism = science?



Folly, folly everywhere...

No love...
Bamp

my last.fm profile
http://www.last.fm/user/wiefrafs

my all time fave groups probably as reflected there

Appleseed Cast
Broken Social Scene
Smashing Pumpkins
Feist

Honorable mention
Bjork
Jimmy Eat World
Goldfrapp
Well, dem too plenty...

frosbel: I start with mine :

1. Using logic, reason and scientific evidence, kindly trace back to the beginning , the origin of MAN.

2. In your own words, describe how you think human reproductive organs evolved into what it is today

3. If we came from monkeys , how come we still have monkeys around today


Thanks,

1. Dunno
2. Dunno
3. Dunno. Actually, not sure we came from monkeys. We are rather different from them.

How did this reach 4 pages?

JeSoul: Sorry bout that my mistake, I was working several threads simultaneously hence the 'plural'.

I didn't ban Cheddarking. You were the only one who threw an extra mud pie afterwards hence the ban. Please ehn...take it easy here on out. I truly dislike banning people especially good standing members like yourself.

I'm not a good standing member. I won't make any promises. I see a douche, I'll call him out. Of course, you must do your work as you see fit. So meh

JeSoul: Those who could not resist throwing more insults have been banned. Does anyone else want to join them?

Far as I can tell I was the only one banned, so why use the word 'them'? Or was cheddah's ban shorter than mine? Why?

cheddarking: Ahhh...


The roaches come crawling out the woodwork...

And actually spitting about brainpower...

These fools have been smoking that pubic hair again...

Wiegraf if you dare...come defend your atheist beliefs against me in public debate....

Team up with illogical if you want...

I fancy some fun tonight...

Busy atm eediot, did you miss that? Again, try to keep up. Worry not though, you will see me around. We may even have a proper internet "fight" if that's what pleases a good and proper mor.on these days.

cheddarking: This long-winded attempt to be witty just falls flat on its face....

An entire epistle? Really?

Damn illogical boy might just have a rival to the clown throne after all...

Lmao

Just answer the last bit then you can continue lmao, or whatever half wits do in their spare time. Sadly though, I've run out of play time atm. You could answer and I may get back to it though, if I still find you amusing ie.


Edit: And oh yes, again, it's not supposed to be witty to m.orons like you. Try to keep up if you can

Ishilove: Em. . . , eskiz sir, acksually sir, what the man writed she are making me to LMAO!!!



Dang, wiegraf get bad mouth sha.

Sorry, I was born that way. Never take my antics personally abeg. I'll work on it, true

greatgenius: for once think before you write..you claim you areint sheeple yet will gladly follow and worship your "expert".. if you have a problem with me addressing an audience, you are more than welcome to cry..and oh the nonsense i peddle has more wisdom and truth in than all your blabbering and gibberish you have been spewing..

What have you been saying for a while now, "pay attention, ignorant"? Did you not notice the whole section where I point out why I don't subscribe to theistic beliefs? To quote myself

wiegraf: Why? It's real simple, they don't make any
logical sense. And you certainly seem intent
on topping their folly.

You think I apply that to only religion you g.nat? If a claim makes sense I'll gladly accept it. The source doesn't matter at all (except of course for reputation). Like I've already more or else said, our thinking donkey probably has more sense than you, so it's going to be rather unlikely I'll accept your claims. "Pay attention"

greatgenius: you are very daft. i repeat very datf..people like you are the reason humanity is not civilized and still barbaric..he actually thinks all the products of his experts are good for him..its like saying my father buys me everything i "want" so my fathers truth is and should my truth..you call Christians sheeple but you the biggest sheeple with that mentality..science is not the problem..but your "experts"scientists are and have done more harm than good..something you are obviously not aware because as a follower as you rightly admitted it is hypocritical to think for yourself.. your slavish brain is too weak to comprehend the level of toxic and destroying your "experts" have brought to your earth..

See above. So you think people who apply critical thinking and use their brains "are the reason humanity is not civilized and still barbaric". Another excellent sound byte from you. Again, toss all the nice things science gives you out you hypocrite

Really, toxic "experts" destroyed the earth? Is that why you neglect taking the medication they gave you at the mental facility? You want to return to nature and spirits? Fine. At the very, very least, find a village and start farming. Live there and 4k a tree if it makes you happy. Do use telepathy to let me know how it's going from time to time if you don't mind

greatgenius: more ignorance no need to respond

If you have no refutals, common practice is to mask your failure by ignoring the section of the post that has you stumped and pretend it never happened.

Think on that part seriously though, imo.

And I'm adding the *imo* even though I really shouldn't btw. You should take it seriously, my opinion or not. But I leave it to demonstrate how you should address non-sheeple, see? You've not extended the same level of respect to your "audience", rather you just state your "truths" as fact. So again, keep that in your fairy tale threads or something, don't expect to not get your justly earned ridicule otherwise.

greatgenius: well critical thinking skills that you lack so you rather have your "experts" thinking for you even to your detriment..a critical thinking donkey will not have his "house" being destroyed by his "experts" and call it civilization.. a critically thinking donkey will not fume at the mouth when someones tells him to think and reason for himself and not blindly take the "truth" of others as his truth.. surely god brother don't tell me a donnkey has more iota of common sense than you..

It's getting old, see above. Is this the very last straw you have to grasp?

And I'm not fuming, wiegraf is gonna wiegraf

greatgenius: at bolded i think i might have to pass and recommend that for you instead.. becuase everything you spew is full of ignorance
why should i be mad at your childish rants.. you obviously reason like a child. i didn't really expect any enlightened response from you though so no worries

...Running around again?
Again, consider the points though. Consider the families of the future kool aid drinkers

greatgenius: pay attention ignorant..something being subjective does not change ultimate reality.. for instance you claiming there is no God does not change the fact that there is one.. and when i said it depends on who you talking to, i meant it as in it depends on the reasoning ability of the individual to prove the existence...because like i said there is really nothing like something not existing

wiegraf: No, I might perceive some things wrongly, but
that does not *mean there's a great deal of stuff that
is not objectively out there, regardless of how
I perceive (or not) them

From the very post you quote (minus omitted word, typo, my bad). In fact, I've pointed this out from the very beginning of this exchange. Benefit of the doubt to you, are you using it to justify your reasoning?

Your drivel is not only related to reasoning, as important (or more so) is suggestibility, for lack of a better term. For the same reason stage performing magicians do not randomly pick members of the audience to use as tools on stage, they watch body language, etc, to determine who would be more susceptible to their tricks.

Anyways, what does this have to do with your nonsense statement about things existing regardless of opinion, great genius? You think it doesn't apply the opposite way. Actually, do you even know how this works? Regardless of whatever nonsense you perceive, god very likely (very likely as in you farting over moon example) does not exist. Just like despite what you choose to believe or perceive santa doesn't exist, or a division by zero, or a square circle on a two dimensional plane, or a sensible looney etc.

"Pay attention"

greatgenius: childlike reasoning at play here..but i will flow with that for now.. lack of demonstration on the part of y is still not enough to say it did not happen or its impossible. for instance in times extreme danger people normally do and accomplish "superhuman" feats that the same people would normally not be able to do or demonstrate if asked to.. is that enough to discard their assertions as false?..

Yes, if he cannot repeat the feat or even logically show how it happened. That is at the very core of being a critical thinker, you don't just accept claims on faith you m.oron. Even if he genuinely believes he performed some amazing feat, notice how subjective perception is? You want to know what really happened? Go out and investigate.

Then you go about claiming you understand how critical thinking works.

greatgenius: having said that you have to understand that every dimension has it laws and to transcend it you have to move into a higher dimension.. for instance to transcend our third dimensional world you would have to use laws or means of a fourth or higher dimension of reality..the ancient Egyptians understood that why they were able to use thought forms to build the pyramid of Giza. The group consciousnesses of current humans inhabiting this earth does not yet believe the third dimension can be transcended. so they get what they believe..

.....
Hahahahahahahah

See above with whole with the whole "there really isn't something like something not existing". You perceive it exists does not mean
it objectively exists. If you think gravity doesn't exist for instance, jump off a cliff to prove your point.

greatgenius: it is all a matter of perspective and belief.. if you believe that some things are not possible then it will not be possible for you..if you believe all things are possible then they indeed are.. this is the paradox of the world and life.. and in this the current humans have it backwards..they would like to see or have before they believe..but if you don't believe or have the faith then you cannot have..

True, great genius god, we petty humans have it backwards

greatgenius: yep pikkiwoki knows all. enough said

You finally get it?

greatgenius: nothing.the aura is just your true nature

And you can see someone's true nature as colors. Heheheheheh. And I really am childish, but really. Lol

Ok, so, how do people with synaestesia fit into all this? They have more powerful magic?

cheddarking: Another clown joins the show....

Go on...Entertain me clown...

Say something that isn't retarded...

A little diversion. There is some truth to this post sadly, as I fear you're rather stoopid so sophisticated jabs won't work on you. This complicates the scenario, making it a near impossible task to not say something reta.rded, if the aim is to get through to you ie. What's that they say about arguing with f.ools?

Actually, this is why most of the atheists won't bother to address you, but of course you'd be too stoopid to notice. A feat you're managing even now, see? If the aim though is to please myself though, engaging you might be pleasing. Though that depends on how amusing I find you.

So do note, only @logic would normally spend time on your likes. He also has other strange hippie beliefs, like thinking marrying fundies could actually work, or engaging muslims could result in their becoming more reasonable/tolerant. The rest of us just *smh* at such blind optimism. I'm not even sure why he calls you a troll, as that's insulting good and proper trolls. They know what they're doing, you conspicuously don't. You're by default just stoopid, so he's giving them a bad name.

I hope you've kept up. Anyways, you're calling other people clowns, cheddah?

cheddarking: What's my point, he asks....

Exposing the Nonsense my religion perpetrates, he says...

Cyrexx the clown said this:



Illogical boy the other clown then said this:




Illogical boy isn't even coherent to his fellow clowns...

This is my point cyrexx....

Amusing myself at your stewpidity...is my point...

Cyrexx + Illogicalboy = Surprisingly good entertainment value...

You're calling other people clowns?

Reyginus: You didn't notice his delusion increases by your punch-lines. Indeed their is power in delusion. Have pity on the dude please:-/.

Oops, my bad. It's the folly, it's too much. It's hard to ignore... I'll try to let be, he's welcome to his beliefs... It's just...

Reyginus: Wiegraf, how you talk! Haba mana?

Wetin I do na?

greatgenius: lol you really are daft..you have ears but do not hear..i tell him to stop taking every "truth" and "facts" from the "experts" as ultimate and then he comes back with "why dont you toss your computer or whatever device your using into the river" since you want me to think for myself..Really is that how atheist reason these days..

We aren't sheeple brah, but it's understandable a m.oron would choose to group us together. And you're addressing me but you feel the need to address an audience, why? Fishing for future kool aid drinkers? Also note there's a difference between objective truths and the nonsense you peddle.

That asides this is mostly correct, hypocrite. You enjoy the trappings of the scientific method yet think one following it is da.ft. How stoopid can you be? Don't use its products if you think they are da.ft mor.on, unless of course you're happy being a hypocrite.

greatgenius: and for your info i do not take "modern medicines".of what use is a medicine to me. i am enlightened and illuminated enough to know that medicines do not cure dis-eases..i really don't remember the last time i was sick and i don't plan on ever becoming sick..you will be surprised what the power of thoughts/mind and words can cure.. try it it will help your life

and as for contacting you through any other means the less i say about it the better..

You think that's impressive? I eat mud, it's all I need for sustenance. Pikkiwokki makes it all delicious and nutritious, so I'm basically never hungry, except away from land of course. Cool, abi?

"The less you say the better". Ooohhh, do tell. You can't be any better than our own prophet, greatergenius. He's like a spiritual 'Q' from the james bond series, cooks up all sorts of spiritual gadgets. One of his day jobs includes being a consultant for nollywood on spiritual matters. Can you top that?

And you plan on never getting sick? That's silly, we should all endeavor to fall sick. Just like I'm currently trying to acquire brain cancer by engaging you

greatgenius: the above is full of ignorance no need to respond if anything it is you who doesn't know what an optical illusion is..understand that in the grand scheme of things everything you see is an illusion..form is an illusion..having said that in the context of this discussion and also putting into context popular notion, "optical illusion" as used here just means "fake"/trick.(especially going by some of the images you posted)..a mirage or counterfeit of a sort. but if you want to get technical i can tell you outright that everything you see is an illusion.. for instance what if i told you that what you think is a white color is actually black; or orange is blue.; or a table is actually not solid at all; or a bridge moves faster than the water underneath it..are these not all true statements? would you believe me or call me crazy if you didn't know these.. again i really don't think you know what auras are.

il·lu·sion - /iˈlo͞oZHən/
Noun:
1. A false idea or belief
2. A deceptive appearance or impression

This could sum up just about everything about you, but I'm not so sure if they're deceptive per se. A donkey with critical thinking skills wouldn't be deceived by your ideas for one.

No, I might perceive some things wrongly, but that does not mean there's a great deal of stuff that is not objectively out there, regardless of how I perceive (or not) them

And you don't have to respond to the first bit, just reflect on it, for the sake of potential future victims

greatgenius: no need for that i dont need to prove jack to you..but if you really need to know go read your bible it is right in there(just separate the wheat from the chaff and you will get to the truth).. but if you want to go the science route then let me tell you that you a conglomeration of atoms. you are an energy being. a light being

Energy is matter, what's new? I should read a story book to gain an understanding of that? Maybe I should also use it as the reference for the brain surgery you desperately need. Oh, I see, I should study fairy tales and magic by reading story books. For once you make sense

I was pointing out to a slave recently how insidious that separating chaff business is, but that's too much to tackle atm.

greatgenius: whether you like it or not you are human and you are indeed an individuated aspect of YHWH the creator of life on this planet.. but again the less said the better. i see you are enjoying the game of this life.

Pikkiwokki will have something to say about that. And perhaps this mutinous cassava stick I hear about.

Hope you aren't mad btw. I've warned you before, assert nonsense like this $hit, expect appropriate responses.

greatgenius: you are very ignorant indeed..doubting something exist is not the same as does not exist..doubting makes you an agnostic not atheist..where do you really stand because you seem confused right now..And let me also add that there is really nothing like something not existing..
depends on who you are talking to.. but again because of your level of ignorance the less said the better..

The bold...too much. And you even admit it's subjective. Well done

You do note I am not giving out my perspective here, yes? I'm describing YOUR position, not mine, genius?

Now, assuming (and don't miss this 'assuming', like you missed the one in my previous post) this indeed were my position, I have to ask, you switched places with @anony? This is a silly.. I don't know what to call it. This is how it works

x is chilling. Y shows up and claims he jumped over the moon

X says hahaha, no. But explain and present evidence anyways (doubt stage)

Y says he's so full of $hit, he was able to counter gravity using the energy generated while taking a $hit.

X says demonstrate

Y says he can't

X can then tell him that yes, he does indeed concur y is full of $hit, but the chances of a $hit powered jump are ridiculously unlikely (though maybe possible when you consider einstein's equations), he'd have better odds if he tried to walk across the atlantic, jesus style, no tricks. Not absolutely impossible maybe, in this case, but even our critical thinking donkey would consider it asinine to assign any value to the claim.

That is how I would say doubt is factored in. It's part of the scientific method of inquiry

greatgenius: where did i admitted that i cannot show God exist..your problem like most religionist is that you think and believe God is seperate from you..God is where you are brother..you are a spark of the divine and you are here for a reason.. oh ye of extreme ignorance have i not said that ye are god.

Again, that IS the scenario as you describe it. You don't have evidence yet expect to be taken seriously.

The rest has already been addressed. Pikkiwokki knows all, prove me wrong.

greatgenius: simply put the auric field of colors are the auric pairs that surrounds them..for istance these are the auric pairs of monochromatic colors...red gives turquoise aura, turquoise gives red aura; orange gives blue aura, blue gives orange aura ;yellow gives violet aura, violet gives yellow aura and green gives pink aura, pink gives green aura..

...What are these auras supposed to do?

greatgenius: i am far from a looney..but you are, becuase you dont seem to get it..you seem to believe that if its been reviewed and verified by all sorts of scientist or people then its facts..you are no different from christians.. they place their faith in a "god" and you place your faith in "experts".you have made "scientist" and experts your "god" albiet with less worshipping compared to the christians.. both acts are equally wrong.. i have not asked you to accept anything. i am only here to help..

If you, my rather deluded eediot, think the scientific methods "experts" are wrong, you're welcome to toss your computer or whatever device you're using into a river. Along with all the other nice things it has given you, modern medicine etc. I'm sure auras have some healing properties, no? Can't you contact me using auric waves or something, do we need to use the internet? Hypocrite.

And good $whateveryousmoke, I don't need your help. Pls, no!

greatgenius: equally distubing borne of out ignorance and low self esteem though is to think that calling oneself a greatgenius is silly. its amazing how low humans think of themselves.. but i tell you what i am all that and even more. I am the son of God. I am God. and you are also all that.

I don't just think it's silly mind you. I think you and that billionare guy are this guy silly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Looking for "low humans" or sheeple to drink cool aid with you, etc etc. Seriously, allowed to roam free you might turn into real nuisances, lol. You make communists who hunted your kind look reasonable. Great genius my a$$, don't even know what an optical illusion is, silly god. What's that, you do? Then why in your hell do you call them auras? It sounds cooler? Attracts sheeple/humans?

God, do please link to some post where you no doubt prove to us that we're god.

greatgenius: i dont really care what you accept brother..it doesnt change the facts.. There is a God. You are God in flesh..God in amnesia..whether you believe it or not is not my issue at this point..you eventually will. again very ignorant statement.. people

Let me just officially tell you that I am not god, allah, yahweh, dog, whatever god your smoke makes you dream up, etc. That said, you're welcome to pay tithes at any given time, and I do think it cool you find me that awesome (I do as well). Just let me know when you have the cash and I'll pm details.

greatgenius: inabillity to explain something logically to you is no indication to claim something does not exist. very daft in my opinion.

Great genius, again, before your brain melts stop smoking that $hit. Look at the bold again. Carefully. What you're saying here is that

our something has not been shown to exist, hence the doubt of its existence
you don't even have logical evidence to back up the something existing

In essence, assuming this scenario, you admit you cannot show it exists. You know you cannot show me that it logically exists, yet you think I'd be d.aft to doubt your claims? You really think yourself god, no? I should accept your claims because? What's next? Santa, zeus, pikachu, yeti? I should accept your claims because you say so? You know I'm god as well, yes? Eediot...

greatgenius: agian it is not a trick. i have asked you to use your own colors... seeing auras is nothing new. you dont need special eyes for anything for anything my friend. hehehe back at your ignorance.. no where did i say that having the abillity to see auras is magical..there is nothing paranormal in seeing auras..in the grand scheme of things there is nothing like miracles or magic only limited perception or ignorance..and your ignorance im afriad knows no bounds.. another statement borne out ignorance..what do you think the spiritual or metaphysical is.. what is staring at the sun and looking somewhere else got to do with auras again..what is an aura mean to you.. well im really inclined to beliive you might have a "damaged" brain.. if anything you are the delusioinal culprit who thinks something as simple as the auric field of a color is an optical illusion.
the question is do you actually take yourself seriously..because only a fool will take some of the things you re saying serious..

Great genius god, what is an auric field of color?


I eagerly await an ansah...

Logicboy03: #butthurt

Successful hunt is successful. The guy even got a few likes earlier, he's got fellow believers that share his butthurt it seems. A job well done. They really should lube up before engaging us though.

greatgenius: bullshi.t..everything you have posted are all virtual illusions.. what i posted was not.. all objects have auras..auras of non living objects are essentially fixed and since the auric field around colors are the easiest to perceive, i chose those two colors for you(could have chose any other color)..

i aslo asked you to concentrate on the black spot so that you could use your peripheral vision to see the auric field of the colors instead of looking straight at the colors..i assumed your peripheral vision retina will be much less "damaged" than your central part. but i guess i assumed wrong cus obviously they both are "damaged"... i mean if you cannot see the auras of simple objects how much more humans..

yet you somehow believe that some people have the power to perceive beyond "normal" color wavelengths because the "experts" says so. Those you would not dare call illusions because the "experts" you rely on have not deemed it so.. some of you are a funny bunch i tell you

Your stoopidity is now even more conspicuous, try to contain it. Like I already told you, you cannot see auric fields without asking the great pikkiwoki, the source of all aura, therefore you're clearly lying.

That asides, you want me to ignore peer reviewed data, reviewed by all sorts of scientists (probably including looneys like you), and accept claims from an anonymous poster on the web who cannot see how silly it is to declare himself a great genius? Whatever you smoke no get part 2.

Why don't I just accept the claims of theists? You do note the myriad blogs online, the indoctrination received, the sheer amount of pressure one receives to be religious, hmm? The many, many "experts" who claim there's a god, yet I discard they're conclusions. Why? It's real simple, they don't make any logical sense. And you certainly seem intent on topping their folly.

This is CLEARLY some sort of trick of perception, a simple effect like any of the others I've posted. This one doesn't even need special eyes, like of those who see millions more colors, it's a simple effect that would work like the ones I posted (except less elegantly actually), and I have even come across similar before. You now somehow conclude that denotes some sort of magic? Heheheh. In what universe is the logic behind your claim? Staring at certain colors can alter your perception a bit, therefore, spiritual auras. You ever stare at the sun for a while then look at something else? You notice how the colors now seem a little different for a bit? What does that now mean, the sun has a spiritual aura? Great genius, an optical illusion (or effect) is just that, an optical illusion. A mirages isn't really an oasis. Except, of course, to people with "damaged" brains.

So, you honestly expect to be taken seriously? You best quit whatever you smoke before it fully melts your brain. Really, keep your $hit in threads where stoopid is the topic. For the most part you at least manage that.

greatgenius: wtf ..Ok we are talking about something different here..I am talking about perceiving the "auric field"of things and you are talking about optical illusions...

Nah, we're talking about the same thing, optical illusions. You can't see aural fields without the great pikkiwokis permission, and I asked him just now and he says he never granted it to you. He doesn't troll so I'm sure he's telling the truth.

Good thing though is you highlight the power of perception in these things.

But of course, let the meta-physical shenanigans begin. Do not let me rain on your parade, so long as you don't insult my intelligence ie.

That video @logic posted is very fitting actually. I never knew that song was so ghey btw

Deep Sight: As for the dancing lady, its a trick. Watch the left and right feet and you will get it. Prank.

You, good ser, are correct (more or else)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spinning_Dancer



Edit; the picture below, the 'necker cube', you can view as if you're observing from above or below. If you look at the individual frames for the spinning dancer the same quality is present in all of the frames. Your brain picks it up and chooses one of the positions, above or below.

So basically I suppose, you can perceive it as if you're looking down at her or looking up at her.

Othmany: just because i wear the military uniform to steal doesn't make all soldiers thieves.my point is great evil has been done in the name of christianity but that does not mean christianity is evil.it is a change of live from the inside no matter what others have made of it

Not that I need to reply for brah but did y'all notice that he's patently aware of that? Basically, it boils down to this; there could be alternatives to xtianity to living a good life. Perhaps, dare I say *gasp*, better alternatives?

Logicboy03: You can lie to yourself with the bible so that you can sleep well at night.

Heh heh. Slavery is good when done by your jewish mastah's. Hahahahahahahahahaha

This coogar guy will be hard to top. Saga and sociopath pleep look like amateurs next to him

greatgenius: you have probably not done something like this before why I said 30 seconds or more..I don't have to really concentrate or look at the black dot to see those extra colors..I see them within a second or less of concentration ..

I'll deal with you properly later, no time atm. At least I think you're sincere, you believe your, err, pure nonsense. But at least you're honest and trying to objectively prove something.

No, I can't see didly squat. But optical illusions and me have never gotten along. Like these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereogram

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=magic+eye&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Q7u&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=72LzUO_vI4W70QWcsYCIBQ&ved=0CE0QsAQ&biw=1158&bih=618

I've been staring at these bastards for near 20 years without success. Other tricks

http://www.itsvery.net/fun03c.html

Similar to what you have there


Perception, tricks of the mind. You could be perceiving 4 colors, but there are only 2 there. You see with your mind, simple. One can use various tools to alter perception, that does not mean that what you're sensing is what is objectively there. You can also purposely trick it into believing strange $hit. And don't get me started on what drugs can do to how you perceive stuff

So, what? How does this relate to spirituality? This isn't magic. I'll deal with the other post if need be later. Especially the fact that you think one should ignore peer reviewed journals *smh*



This one though is my favorite, and probably popular. Some people see her spinning clockwise, other the opposite. Some see her spinning both ways easily (like me). If you've never come across it get a friend, and you guys can mindfuck at it as your observations will not tally.

http://www.itsvery.net/fun03e.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2131608/Claude-Monet-How-famed-artist-ultraviolet-just-like-animals.html

This dude, due to an accident, could see ultra violet


I hope I'm not supposed to be wowed?

greatgenius: ok waht if i told you there are four colors in total and that [b]you only see two due to your limited perception [/b]and as such your inability to see the rest.. would you believe me or call it baloney.

No. So?

You could be genuinely seeing 4 colors, doesn't mean there are 4 colors there, it just means you perceive (if you aren't trolling) 4 colors. Again, so? Assuming there really are 4 colors there, have you met color blind people? You know there are people who see light outside the normal spectrum as well, yes? Iirc there are people who can see either uv/or infrared sef, can't remember which.

http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision

You could have altered your perception through drugs or what not, even permanently. You could simply be insane. etc etc

I hope you have more than this to prove whatever point it is you're trying to make...

greatgenius: lol what gave you the impression i am here for respect ... you said you want facts and evidence before you believe so just answer the question about the images and we can proceed..how many colors did you see

So I can insult you as I see fit? Oh goodie!!

Make no mistake, most of the drivel you spew is complete nonsense, but I'll hold off on the insults for now as I do like games. I can see only 2, so?

greatgenius: i dont care what you think or believe about the things i say.. they either resonate with you or they don't..i am not here to dance and argue to and fro about things that i already know about..likewise i am not under any obligation to provide facts. neither have i asked anyone to believe anything i say.. if it resonates ok.. if not ok..it will not change ultimate reality.

And lately because i have been respecting other peoples freewill to be ignorant.. i was going to ignore your delusional ignorant blabber but i figured why not put you to a simple test to discern your level of awareness.. hopefully you will begin to evaluate your thinking and stop discarding information as nonsensical because of your lack of understanding and ignorance..

how many colors do you see on the image below(disregard the black dot)..most people only will see two colors red and green..but i see four colors

What have I ever done to give you the impression I will indulge in your silly nonsense oh great genius?

If you demand respect, you are obligated to provide evidence for your claims, ie, if you state them as fact. Else, expect the well deserved ridicule that comes your way.