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[b]KingEbukasBlog, I think he's asking you to join their small Train keke napep of "I dont Know so lets remain ignorant",. I agree its not a bad thing to lack knowledge, but its odd to say the least to have the answers staring at you and you willingly go blind.

Like they popularly say, if everything must have a Creator, then it applies to God too. Man and insatiable needs tho, the created hasn't probed his existence and wants to make use of his created abilities to probe the existence of his Creator...Ironic.

Well, one of the most established principles of logic,science, reality is the principle of causality, i.e something that has a beginning has a sufficient cause. a cause has to be sufficient, or adequate . ‘You were found in a space engine’ is not a sufficient explanation for your existence.

Atheists make use of words like rational, reasonable and scientific in describing their beliefs, worse atheists believe that the beginning of the universe had no cause whatsoever! Some admit it is a problem, but they claim that saying ‘God did it’ explains nothing because you then have to explain where God came from.

The cause of the universe must have been non-material because if the cause was material/natural, it would be subject to the same laws of decay as the universe. That means it would have to have had a beginning itself and you have the same problem as cycles of births and deaths of universes. So the cause of the universe’s beginning must have been super-natural, i .e. non-material, non-natural or spirit, a cause outside of space-matter -time. Now such a cause would not be subject to the law of decay and so would not have a beginning. That is, the cause had to be eternal spirit .
Furthermore, the cause of the universe had to be incredibly powerful, the sheer size and energy seen in the universe together speak of that power; there had to be a sufficient cause. That sounds like the God of the Bible to me.

The Bible reveals the Creator of the universe as:

- Eternal
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. (Psalm 90:2)

-All- powerful
Yours, O LORD, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O L ORD, and you are exalted as head above all . Both riches and honour come from you, and you rule over all. In your hand are power and might, and in your hand it is to make great and to give strength to all. (1Chronicles29: 11–12)

-Spirit (non-material)
God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

Note that the Bible says , “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth ” (Genesis 1: 1 ). Here God created time itself . Only One who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.
To now ask where someone who is eternal, someone who had no beginning, came from (‘ Who created God ?’) is like asking, ‘To whom is the bachelor married?’ It is an irrational question.

Atheists not only have to believe that matter came into being without any cause, they also have to believe that life itself popped into existence without an adequate cause.
Even the simplest single - celled life is stupendously complex. A humble bacterium is full of incredibly sophisticated nano -machines that it needs to live. A cell needs a minimum of over 400 different proteins to make the machines that are absolutely essential for life. How could these protein-based machines make themselves, even if all the right ingredients (20 different amino acids, but many of each) could make themselves? The amino acids, often thousands of them, have to be joined together in the correct order for each protein to function.

Lets think about a single protein component, less than 10 % of the total. This protein is 329 amino acids in length. What would be the chance of getting this one protein by chance, assuming that the correct, and only the correct, amino acid ingredients were present?

We can calculate it this way: 1/ 20 x 1 / 20 x 1 / 20 … 329 times ! This is a probability of 1 in 10 428 … a number with 428 zeros after the 1 ! Even if every atom in the universe (1080 a number with 80 zeros ) represented an experiment for every molecular vibration possible (1012 per second ) for the supposed evolutionary age of the universe (14 billion years = 1018 seconds), this would allow only 10 110 experiments, a long, long way short of the number needed to have a ghost of a chance of getting just this one protein to form, let alone the over 400 others needed .

No wonder Richard Dawkins admits that scientists might never work out how life could arise by natural processes. Nevertheless, he rejects the creation explanation for the "fallacious" reason above.

Now think again, what sort of cause is sufficient to explain the origin of life? The cause must be incredibly intelligent, far beyond our intelligence. We marvel at the scientists who are discovering the nano - technology in living things and it is an astonishing enterprise. But what of the One who invented these things? How much more intelligent is He? This reminds me of another characteristic of the God whom the Bible reveals: He is omniscient (all knowing). Psalm 139: 2– 6, Isaiah 40 : 13 – 14.
We know sufficient about the Creator from His creation to be “without excuse” .

Romans 1: 18 – 22 explains why otherwise intelligent people choose to believe impossible things; that firstly the universe,
then life, just popped into existence without any adequate cause. They choose to illogically accept that their two ‘great
beginnings’ had no sufficient cause, rather than acknowledge and honour their Creator. [/b]

menesheh:
Fishbrains! Like seriously.

Winner01 species.

[b]Really Menehsheh, Like An2elect2 said, fishes are way wiser than your type.

Well I did a little analogy to see who's really got fish brains.

Me; Nothing cant explode into nothing.
You; Nothing can explode into nothing and create everything and magically rearrange everything into a perfect order.

Me; To hell with darwinism, how did the early ape man come to being.
You; I dont care, man evolved from apes, thats all.

Me; if the universe did create itself, it must have been for a reason.
You; The universe created itself simply because it needed to. There has been no found cause, lets leave it that way.

Me; The Universe must have been designed by a Super intelligent Being, Just like a building would require a builder.
You; Nothing can create everything, theres no need to invoke a Non existent Super Being. A building can build itself.

Me; I refuse to believe man posseses Intelligence, conscience, intuition, etc coincidentally.
You; Man just happened like every other material the universe created.

Me; I believe so much in Logic and science, many scientists recognized the fact that there could be God. but there a limit to logic. The fact that humans should exist still beats human reasoning.
You; Science repels faith and Who cares why we exist, Just be live well, be good and die.

Me; DNA, Amino acids, Genetic codes, enzyme chains e.t.c cant possibly arise from nothing.
You; Oh yes they can.

Me; The universe cant fine tune itself and be rational just because it wants to be.
You; The universe is its own creator, it can do whatever it likes.

Me; If God does not exist, Human beings dont really matter.
You; Come on, Human beings are special compared to other big bang products. The universe created us that way.

Note: Not all atheists agree with darwinism or the big bang, some worse ones dont believe in both. They just believe they are.

The day atheists quit spending everyday of their lives discussing an idea, which according to them is non-existent, ill start taking them serious.

Ill let you off menehsheh,its no use. Engaging you is like arguing with a tree. [/b]

[b]The spiritual realm is largely in control of the physical realm.
Man can never stay void or empty, He has to be occupied by a spirit. Every spirit knows Who the true God is and so really atheists cant help it but to speak against the true God.

Sometimes, due to dishonesty and mischief, they try to slot in other gods and religions to make you feel that there is a balance in their disbelief, but its all lies...

Its no doubt atheists are all out against the christian God, the reason aint far fetched.

Take menehsheh for example, I'll like yall to examine some of the topics on his profile. He's been doing quite a job against Yahweh, his Creator. I challenged some of them recently to balance their hate for God. That may be the reason you'll see 1 or 2 recent threads concerning islam and muslims in his profile. The quote below sums up his profile.

"Atheist's don't exist. If you ask anyone why they are an atheist they will proceed to explain their religion of non belief." -Monksarnn

Some of them move on to spew irritating statements such as "i'm a christian-atheist". There is no such thing. its like saying "i'm a christ-like atheist"

Some more intelligent and honest ones say that "Christianity is the worst of all religions". I say there is a foul spirit at work.

For as long as people continue to give themselves to foul spirits, we will continue to witness people with ignorance, pride, arrogance and gross unintelligence.

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions."- G.K. Chesterton

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis [/b]

ekemini606:
I see so many few atheist littering everywhere with their gospel of non_ existence of an almighty being. For some reason this few enlightened, seem to believe that everyone across time and space who have somehow believe in an all powerfull being are fools/ irrational. Forgetting that some of the most rational men ( Isaac newton for instance) believed in God.

Anyhow, my question for them this morning is_ how do one project so much hate and dislike towards something that does not exist?

[b]Ask them why the only idea they are obsessed about is God.

More than 95% of nairaland atheists are found in the religion section, mostky talking about God and religion. Ask them why.

Lastly, tell them to give 5 examples of other non-existent ideas that people talk so much about.

Never mind, they cant have answers. They are just a bunch of minority kids who are angry with God for one reason or the other.

They honest ones make their hate clear, the mischievous ones twist and turn by including other gods and religion thereby making you feel they are honest in their inquisitions.

Lets study an atheists honest reply to one of the most recent threads today.

Question; Why Is God Going To Destroy HIS ENEMIES In Hellfire?

Answer; Because he's a Psycho who doesn't exist btw.

The above pretty sums up the mind of a sincere and honest atheist.

Hatred is the fuel for atheism not questions.



"How else can you fight God but to pretend He doesn't exist?" - Chris Bowyer

"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God." - Heywood Broun

“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton. [/b]

onetrack:
I prefer living without any celestial dictator above me, which means I choose from your list Good, Freedom, and Life.

[b]From the definition of good, ill make do with the following key words.

Benefit, Advantage, Moral, Pleasure.

To the theist, God is the reason for morality. To the "atheist or free-thinker", morality is subjective right. What you consider moral might be immoral to me yeah. If my actions are calculated to make me succeed or benefit, then theres no real reason why i should not engage in them.

I would like to remind you that the armed-robbers, rapists, avengers, looters, terrorists, cheats, e.t.c act to their own advantage.

Maybe y'all should start a subjective morality campaign along the line of law.


As for freedom, Man is not even close to experiencing freedom with the presence of struggles, wars, intolerance, racism, environmental hazards e.t.c.

Developing Governments like Nigeria has its citizens live like slaves, speak of mordern slavery.

The Developed and Great countries of the world posses massive dangerous nuclear weapons, Its for power and self defence right.
It appears to me that man shall never experience true freedom except he be free from himself .


And Life. Life oh Life. We all wanna live, but unfortunately, we dont get to choose who lives or dies.
We all wanna be forever young, but reality dawns on us as nature takes its toll.
In reality, no one wants to die, but the more we live, the more fewer our days, the more death draws nearer.

Life is but a walking shadow; a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. - William Shakespeare

Man is like a mere breath; His days are like a passing shadow. - The Bible.

Now my friend, I wish it was that easy to choose good, freedom and life. But the system is a bit more complex than you think. We keep chasing these things till time runs out on us.

Thats why some of us have turned to the Creator of good, freedom and life, the Creator of man, the Beginning and the End, to lead us in a worthwhile quest to good, freedom and life, amongst extreme difficulties and struggles. [/b]

menesheh:
You'd rather be asleep in an idea that:

[b]No, Sleep is real, I sleep in realities not in Ideas.

menesheh:
1. Have zero evidence and substantiation extrinsic in its holy book

[b]“We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.” - Sir Isaac Newton

"There is abundant evidence that the Bible, though written by men, is not the product of the human mind. By countless multitudes it has always been revered as a communication to us from the Creator of the Universe". - Sir Ambrose Fleming

“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”
“Take all that you can of this book upon reason, and the balance on faith, and you will live and die a happier man. It is the best Book which God has given to man(When a skeptic expressed surprise to see him reading a Bible)”
“But for this book we could not know right from wrong.” - Abraham lincoln

“I look upon all four Gospels as thoroughly genuine, for there shines forth from them the reflected splendor of a sublimity proceeding from Jesus Christ. - Goethe

“The gospel is not a book; it is a living being, with an action, a power, which invades every thing that opposes its extension, behold! It is upon this table: This book, surpassing all others. I never omit to read it, and every day with some pleasure.” - Napoleon, Emperor of the french (1804-1814).

Now i got myself thinking on whose words might be more credible. These great men or menehsheh. [/b]

menesheh:
2. That you were born into (99% are indoctrinated into their parent's religion)

We call it grace and mercy. Some find it after a long while just like you shall.

I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY - GOD.

We can place ourselves in line for God's grace and mercy.
So, once again, its grace.

Your grace has found me just as i am - Michael W. Smith.

menesheh:
3. It takes only faith to believe instead of evidence and proof.

Merely seeing a building, I have evidence that there was a builder.

I believe in God as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. --C. S. Lewis

Stop demonstrating infinite knowledge, if i start asking my questions, im sure you'll run as you always do.

"To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

menesheh:
4. That have other similar ideas battling it to whom will win the war of being real.

“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton.

Ive always said this and reiterate. Only 5% of those who profess to be atheists are real atheists, the rest are God-haters or anti-theists. Even though they try as much as possible to balance the hate by including other religions.

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions."- G.K. Chesterton

I will say this once, the God y'all are obsessesed with is the true God.

"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God." - Heywood Broun

menesheh:
5. That will frown its face in the case of any oppossing idea that disprove its tenets. (science deal with skepticism)

Stop hiding under science, Science aint for close minded people. Most of the worlds greatest scientists believed in God. Speak of Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Johannes Kepler, Rene Descartes, Blaise Pascal, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, Gregor Mendel, William Thomson Kelvin, Max Planck to mention a few.

If we were to judge nature by common sense or likelihood, we wouldn't believe the world existed. --Annie Dillard

menesheh:
6. That have a worlview that it not rationally justice (slavery, killing of witches, supported rape, racism, prejudice)

What do you mean be rational justice, endorsing witchcraft or praying for them, Shunning LGBT, paedophilia, necrophilia, beastiality e.t.c or embracing madness. Whatever you meant by rational justice Mr menehsheh.

"Atheist's don't exist. If you ask anyone why they are an atheist they will proceed to explain their religion of non belief." -Monksarnn

menesheh:
I, me and myself don't perceive that their is a god, makes you demonstrable wrong.

Lie!!!. Lie from hell. Demonstrate it then. Stop the obsession with God and religion on nairaland religion section for a start.

This one is for y'all God-haters.
"How else can you fight God but to pretend He doesn't exist?" - Chris Bowyer

menesheh:
Am willfully stubborn, prideful and arrogant because am asking for the evidence and substantiation of a claim. If such a god happens to exist, he will know that am intellectually honest for demanding the evidence of his existence. That am morally superior to you that is supporting irrational believes and hideous evils in your holy book. If such a god wants to punish me, i will be happy to receive such punishment 1000 times knowing fully well that am justified.
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It is ignorant pride and arrogance to see a building and willfully refuse to acknowledge the fact that a builder must have been involved in the building.

Be careful what yhu wish for because I perceive a dishonest determination Mr. menehsheh.

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." - C.S. Lewis

[b]If God created man, then how could man ever probe God's existence with his created senses. - ME

I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.--Abraham Lincoln

If God were small enough to be understood, He would not be big enough to be worshiped. --Evelyn Underhill

"How else can you fight God but to pretend He doesn't exist?" - Chris Bowyer

If we were to judge nature by common sense or likelihood, we wouldn't believe the world existed. --Annie Dillard

To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

Without God man has no reference point to define himself. 20th century philosophy manifests the chaos of man seeking to understand himself as a creature with dignity while having no reference point for that dignity. --R. C. Sproul

I hope for the day when everyone can speak again of God without embarrassment. --Paul Tillich

Those who believe they believe in God but without passion in the heart, without anguish of mind, without uncertainty, without doubt, and even at times without despair, believe only in the idea of God, and not in God himself. --Madeleine L'Engle

A god who let us prove his existence would be an idol. --Deitrich Bonhoeffer

I'm still an atheist, thank God.
Luis Bunuel

If atheism spread, it would become a religion as intolerable as the ancient ones. --Gustave le Bon

You think you are too intelligent to believe in God. I am not like you. --Napoleon Bonaparte

Can one be a saint if God does not exist? That is the only concrete problem I know of today. ?Albert Camus

By night, an atheist half-believes in God. ?Edward Young

If there be a God and one has never sought him, it will be small consolation to remember that one could not get proof of his existence. ?George MacDonald

A creature revolting against a creator is revolting against the source of his own powers--including even his power to revolt...It is like the scent of a flower trying to destroy the flower. --C.S. Lewis

We may seek God by our intellect, but we only can find him with our heart. ?Cotvos

I believe in God as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. --C. S. Lewis

"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God." - Heywood Broun

"If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion." - Edmond and Jules de Goncourt

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." - C.S. Lewis

"It is largely because the free-thinkers, as a school, have hardly made up their minds whether they want to be more optimist or more pessimist than Christianity that their small but sincere movement has failed. For the duel is deadly; and any agnostic who wishes to be anything more than a Nihilist must sympathize with one version of nature or the other." - GK Chesterton

"The atheist has no hope." - J.F. Clarke [/b]

talentedjoe:
Don't mind them. Let them keep deceiving themselves. There is a deeper yearning,longing and craving to belong to a supreme deity in every living soul,if not from birth;then at a certain stage in one's life.

A man may lie to himself, but he has to battle with his conscience to embrace his lie and make it true. - ME

[b]"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." -Francis Bacon 

"If you don't believe in God, all you have to believe in is decency. Decency is very good. Better decent than indecent. But I don't think it's enough."
-Harold Macmillan 

"What you don't understand is that it is possible to be an atheist, it is possible not to know if God exists or why He should, and yet to believe that man does not live in a state of nature but in history, and that history as we know it now began with Christ, it was founded by Him on the Gospels."
-Boris Pasternak 

"No one can be an unbeliever nowadays. The Christian Apologists have left one nothing to disbelieve."
-Hector Hugh Munro 

"An atheist is a man who believes himself an accident."
~ Francis Thompson 

"Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic uninterestingness as an intellectual position. Where was the ingenuity, the ambiguity, the humanity (in the Harvard sense) of saying that the universe just happened to happen and that when we're dead we're dead?"
-John Updike

"Atheism is rather in the life than in the heart of man."
-Francis Bacon 

"Atheism is the result of ignorance and pride; of strong sense and feeble reasons; of good eating and ill-living. It is the plague of society, the corrupter of manners, and the underminer of property."
-Jeremy Collier

"A disbelief in God does not result in a belief in nothing; disbelief in God usually results in a belief in anything." -Arthur Lynch

"The only atheism is the denial of truth."-Arthur Lynch

"He who never thirsts for God here, will thirst for Him before he has been dead a minute."- B. North 

"The three great apostles of practical atheism, that make converts without persecuting, and retain them without preaching, are wealth, health and power."
-C C Colton

"Atheist's don't exist. If you ask anyone why they are an atheist they will proceed to explain their religion of non belief." -Monksarnn

"An atheist is one who hopes the Lord will do nothing to disturb his disbelief." -Franklin P. Jones 

"To doubt is not sin, but to be contented to remain in doubt when God has provided "many infallible proofs" to cure it, is." -Irwin H. Linton

"There is no being eloquent for atheism. In that exhausted receiver the mind cannot use its wings,- the clearest proof that it is out of its element." -Hare

"No man will say, "There is no God" 'till he is so hardened in sin that it has become his interest that there should be none to call him to account." -Mathew Henry

"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court." 
-Arkansas State Constitution

"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.” -Maryland State Constitution

"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."- Mississippi State Constitution

"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."- North Carolina State Constitution

"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution." -South Carolina State Constitution

"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."- Tennessee State Constitution

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being. -Texas State Constitution"

"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth." -Pennsylvania State Constitution

"Again, I hear almost everyday from atheists who write off religion as primitive, premodern nonsense. I summon Aquinas, Augustine, Paul [of Tarsus], Teresa of Avila, Joseph Ratzinger, and Edith Stein--in all their intellectual rigor--as allies in the the struggle against this dismissive atheism." -Fr Robert Barron.

“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton. [/b](I love this one , ive always spoken of the atheists obsession for God)

[b]"The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful, and has nobody to thank."- Dante Gabriel Rossetti

"The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of." -Peter Huff

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions."- G.K. Chesterton

"A great many of those who 'debunk' traditional...values have in the background values of their own which they believe to be immune from the debunking process."- C.S. Lewis

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God."- Robert A. Laidlaw

"Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God. "-Tom Stoppard

"Still, even the most admirable of atheists is nothing more than a moral parasite, living his life based on borrowed ethics. This is why, when pressed, the atheist will often attempt to hide his lack of conviction in his own beliefs behind some poorly formulated utilitarianism, or argue that he acts out of altruistic self-interest. But this is only post-facto rationalization, not reason or rational behavior."- Vox Day      

"Atheists are idiots."-The Masked Angel [/b]

Jesus had handpicked Peter to be one of His disciples. At one time, He even washed His disciples dirty, smelly feet as an example of brotherly love and humility. Jesus was a man's man! He had power to forgive sin and accepted worship from others because He was God in the flesh.
He taught the disciples how to pray and get.things from God the Father. So many miracles had been performed. What other man ever spake like this man or could do the things which Jesus did? Truly this man was God incarnate! The disciples had found a better way to live through Jesus.

Now came a turning point in Christ's ministry. He tells His disciples that it is time for Him "to go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day " (Matthew 16:21). Peter loved Jesus and didn't understand this kind of talk. Peter said, "this shall not be done unto thee," (vs. 22). In Matthew 16:23 and again in Mark 8:33 we find Jesus making an astonishing statement of rebuke to His disciple, Peter. "Get thee behind me, Satan : thou art an offense unto me: for thou savorest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men" (vs. 23).

The word "savorest " in the Greek means "to be interested ." Jesus was saying that Peter was more interested in earthly things than he was in the things of God. Had Peter known His Scriptures well, he no doubt would have understood that Christ had to be sacrificed for the grievous sins of mankind.

Today, many Christians are like Peter. They are more interested in the cares and riches of this world than they are about the things of God. They attend a church, participate in social events, sing in a choir, sit on a committee, work a job, raise a family, etc.; but are woefully ignorant of the Scriptures and have little interest in making God Happy. Revelation 4:11 tells us that we were created to please God! It takes faith to please God. Faith is what causes us to obey the Word of God.

Peter was Satanic for a moment in his thinking. All believers are vulnerable to Satanic philosophy and lies of the Devil. Peter meant well no doubt but failed to view things from a Scriptural perspective. Many believers today are sitting ducks, being "blown about by every wind of doctrine" because they are woefully ignorant of the Scriptures. Do you love the Bible? Do you meditate therein day and night in your mind as David did in Psalm 1:1-3? Are you as a tree planted by the rivers of water? Do you study to understand the Scriptures? Is the Bible changing you? Are you a soul-winner? Do you have concern for the lost around you? How do you treat your spouse? Your kids? Your parents? Your neighbor? Yourself? Christianity starts with treating others properly. As we grow in our knowledge of the Truth, so also should we be growing in our fellowship with our God and in our treatment of others.

Many believers today have the Satanic idea that divorce is permissible in certain situations. Yet, Jesus taught to forgive 70 times 7 (Matthew 18:22). Jesus taught that divorce is only caused by the hardness of one's unforgiving heart (Matthew 19:. When meddling people recommend divorce as the answer to your marriage problems, they are speaking evil as did the serpent to Eve. The power of God can save your marriage. Instead of filing for divorce, why don't you pray and plant some grass seeds to make your own yard greener. Divorce is a sin!

Some believers have the Satanic notion that what their pastor says overrides what the Bible says. They wouldn't admit that, but it's how they live. However, the Word of God is.the Authority of the Church. When men control a church, it becomes a demonic cult.
The authority of the pastor ought to be because he preaches from the Authority of God's Word. This goes back to the subject of divorce, because I have received e-mails from many people who hide behind their pastor's recommendation to get a divorce. We ought to obey God and not look for apostate men to agree with our unchristian actions. Jesus commanded us in John 3:39 to, SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!

Divorce is a horrible sin. It is wickedness! It is evil when people search from pastor to pastor, until they find one or two who agree with their decision to divorce or commit some sin. If you search hard enough, you'll find a pastor who'll agree with anything you want to do, just so long as you open your wallet or.purse. There are plenty of pastors today who approve of homosexuality and abortion and never preach against it. There are ordained Wiccan witch ministers, who perform witch weddings and other functions. So if you want.to worship Satan, there's a minister for you.too. The question is: What does the Bible say?

Many believers today have Satanic thinking stuck in their heads, and the only cure is the Word of God. I get letters from professed Christians who can't understand why I teach God's unconditional love for sinners. They argue that God doesn't love unrepentant sinners. The plainest teachings in the Bible declare “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ” (John 3:16). Christ died for all the world. If God didn't unconditionallylove Christ-rejecters, then they'd go straight to Hell the moment they rejected Christ. It is God's unconditional love that causes Him to be long-suffering and patient with even the vilest of sinners, “not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance ” (2nd Peter 3:9). That is love.

Christians are only saved by Christ's righteousness, through faith, so we certainly cannot claim that God loves us for anything we have done. The notion that God loves Christians and hates unbelievers is Satanic, it is a false doctrine rooted in self- righteousness. We all deserve to burn in Hell.

Many professed Christians today claim that it doesn't matter which version of the Bible one uses, as long as he or she believes in Jesus Christ. That is Satanic thinking. It does matter which Bible we use, because all of the modern Bible versions horribly attack the Godhead and the deity of Jesus Christ. The New International Version (NIV) of the Bible perverts Romans 10:9 to require lost sinners to confess “ Jesus is Lord ” to be saved. That is a false gospel. We don't make Jesus Lord; He is Lord! Ironically, Matthew 7:21-23 tells us that many religious people who call Jesus “ Lord, Lord ,” will still go to Hell, because of their self-righteousness. The notion that a lost sinner must make a commitment to clean up their life in order to be saved is Satanic!
This heresy is known as LORDSHIP SALVATION .

Of course, Lordship Salvationists AREN'T saved at all. The title of my article is SATANIC CHRISTIANS, so it may seem that I'm getting off track; however, I brought this matter up because many genuine Christians are trading in their King James Bible (the Seed by which they were saved) to use the corrupted NIV (which is a bad seed). It is Satanic thinking to say it doesn't matter which Bible one uses. It DOES matter!!! The NIV was translated in part by homosexuals, including the chairman of the Old Testament committee. That's why the word “sodomite” is completely gone in the NIV. The word “sodomite” connects the sin of homosexuality with the destruction of that wicked city, Sodom!

May we be Christlike in our thoughts and not Satanic.

God bless you

David J. Stewart