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parisbookaddict:
All heresies draw their strength from some true doctrine,

Mohammedanism aka Islam drew its strength from the some true Catholic doctrines which it
retained then blended several apocryphal books amongst which are;
1. the Infancy gospel of Thomas : this is where mohammed got his stories about the childhood of "isa"

2. the life of Adam and eve: this is where he got the alternate creation story.

3. the gospel of James/the protovangelion of James: the purported biography of Mary which mohammed plagiarised.

4. the gnostic apocalypse of peter: the alleged body double crucifixion which muslims love to appeal to, alsi plagiarised by mohammed.
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Caveat: These books were fallacious and dubious books which were produced centuries after the events of the new testament and where relatively popular during mohammed's time. The church rejected them 2 centuries before, warning Christians that the books were ungenuine.
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However it was read amongst some Christians especially gnostics. Mohammed embraced the books and plagiarised them to form the quran even the gospel of James/the protovangelion of James( the purported biography of Mary) formed a significant portion of the quran.

Those who knew he was a fraud were quick to accuse him

[size=13pt]"This is nothing but a lie which he has forged, and other have helped him do it...Tales of the ancients (fairy tales), which he has caused to be written; and they are dictated before him morning and evening." (Surah 25:4-5)" [/size]


Mohammeds "copy and paste" was legendary.

mohammed mixed so much of these books up that he was accused of being mad(as recorded in the quran).

[size=13pt] Surah 15, verse 6:
*{And they [the Arab pagans] say, ‘O you to whom the Reminder has been revealed! You are most surely insane!’
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On a finally note, Islam differed from most (not from all)
heresies in this, that it did NOT arise within the bounds of the Christian Church.

The chief heresiarch, Mohammed himself, was not, like most
heresiarchs, of Catholic birth and doctrine to begin with. He was different. He
sprang from pagans and blended these texts aforementioned with his pagan beliefs. Note the evidence supporting mohammeds pagan origin;

1. Mohammed's Pagan father was called Abdullah, which means slave of Allah long before Mohammed started Islam.
2. The crescent moon and star is seen high above almost every mosque not to mention the moon god was allegedly one of the 360 gods of the kabba.
3. The muslim obsession with black clothes.
4. The Islamic black flag.
5. The kissing of the black stone done by Muslims which was started by Mohammed for no apparent reason other than a pagan ritual.
6. The circling of the kabba.
7. Compulsory pilgrimage for Muslims which was done by pagans in mecca before Islam.
8. Bowing down and facing mecca when praying. Etc
9. Cultural Superstitions and unfounded hate for wall geckos, dogs(mans best friend), etc

All these are some of the red flags that indicate that there maybe more to Islam than meets the eye. These pagan practises are not seen in Judaism and Christianity which Mohammed claims are people of the book and says he is one of their "prophets".


But that which he taught was in the main Catholic doctrine. This perhaps have led some to believe the Catholics invented Islam. its fundamentals are the same simple massage.

It was the great Catholic world on the frontiers
of which he lived, whose influence was all around him and whose
territories he had known by travel which inspired his convictions.

The dichotomy of beliefs (Christian and pagan) was something he was able to coalesce in the abomination that is Islam and brought a force so deadly that for 1400 years Islam still seeks to see the whole world submit to one man's monadic understanding of a complex incomprehensible being.

OLAADEGBU:
And who told you that 'B' was debunked without any shroud of evidence? What other evidence do you want for the existence of the Creator?

With my limited knowledge and my physical senses I have the evidence of God's existence. When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I couldn't want a better evidence that there was a builder than to have the building in front of me. I don't even need faith to know that there was a builder. All I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.

The same principle applies to the existence of God. When I look at creation, how can I know that there was a Creator? Creation reveals to me that there is a Creator. I couldn't want a better evidence that there is a Creator than to have the creation in front of me. I don't need faith to believe in a Creator, all I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.

"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20).

But if I want the builder to do something for me, then I need to have faith in the builder.

"Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).

If you need to know God on an intimate level you need faith based on His Word and World. QED. Simples.

parisbookaddict:
U just committed ad hominem Mr atheist. Why don't u focus on presenting ur "wonderful" logical argument rather than imply how unclever the op is.

You, Mr atheist believe u come from an ape who just accidentally happens to exist for no reason and out of the choas of the big bang came order without the intervention of anything. If you break your watch to pieces, detach all the mechanical parts and pour it in a blend for a million years (chaos) will it all find its way back together and produce a working watch. NO. but this is what u believe. Out of chaos and meaninglessness came perfect order by the intervention of nothing.


The op and other theists believe they are created in the image of an infinite & perfect being who existed before all else and has revealed himself to his creation as he sees fit; and who created a perfect universe which works like clockwork, the only known planet in the billions of universes which has the only single conditions to support human life. We believe we are infinite beings who continue to exist after human life.

Mr atheist you appeal to textbooks on logical arguments written by men in an attempt to appear smart but please let's see how smart are, start quoting the logical fallacies as it concerns the OPs arguement. Even at that it won't matter, here is why;

We Christians appeal to the bible, the inspired word of a perfect being and thousands of years of wisdom both human and divine. A life manual full of lessons on how to live and the consequences of sin. A book that transcends all human knowledge.

Mr atheist one day you will need a miracle perhaps then u will see how important God really is. And when u bend your knees to pray with sincerity and humbled, he will listen.

This too is solid, is this the era of solidity .

CaptainJune:
[b]In your words, how can any reasonable person believe that the human race evolved from apes?

How can any reasonable person look at and believe that the sun, the stars and shooting stars, the moon, the mountains, the oceans, trees, the animals, hills and valleys, the volcanoes, their exact positions, and the presence of elements that sustain life on earth, which are all not present in other planets as well as the entire universe with all its planets all sprang from energy that created itself?

How can a right thinking human believe that his existence is meaningless, yet I wonder how an object meant to live a meaningless life came to discover his purpose of empty existence? Isn't he supposed to live and die like any mindless object, i.e. a tree, without knowing his meaningless purpose of existence? How can a person with a mind, life, senses, and with the ability to experience emotions, with creative abilities other animate things lack equate himself with the existence led by squirrels, dogs, elephants, plants, buffaloes, cattle, penguins, etc? This too is meaningless.

How can a reasonable man say there is no other world besides the physical world despite glaring evidence to the contrary? Many scientists without any religious affiliations who have conducted years of experiments on the possibility of the afterlife all came with the same conclusion that consciousness continues even after the brain dies. Yet, the so-called reasonable man insists it is not possible. He has conducted no experiment into the matter but refuses to believe those who have.

Finally, how can a reasonable man doubt the testimonies of a multitude of people from different races, countries, era, ages, language, and geographical locations, all saying the same thing about the reality of heaven, hell, angels and demons? How can a reasonable man say they are all suffering hallucinations when, scientifically, it is impossible given the limitations of time, space, distance, and age, of the possibility of ALL suffering the same specie of hallucination?

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Jozzy4:
Copy nd p.aste as usual , the article didnt even answer the question .

Nonsense .

stevecantrell:
You're right.

However, all Rockefellers are members by birth whether they realise it or not. Accept it or not.

Annunaki:
Actually pagans in the time of Prophet ezekiel used to pray exactly the same way muslims pray today. This confirms that the islamic
prayer method has pagan origins.

https://www.nairaland.com/153246/god-does-not-approve-praying

Thoniameek:
Na wa o!

I didn't know he has a relationship with God at all, and it's very public

lampardizik:
Scholars will tell you that Jesus was not beggerly,neither did he ever look beggerly nor dress like a lunatic or poorly dressed to say the least

kobosmalls:
I dont even have to answer any of your questions but i did and quite well if u are to be honest.

KingEbukasBlog:
As in ehh .

Lolzzz ... soon they'll tell you science has not discovered it and abandon the threads like cowards .

Just like You saw it coming bro

kobosmalls:
I never claimed that sciences has all the answers.

... who else saw this

kobosmalls:
If you are wise enough you will agree that i am right.

Esdb3:
So it is difference in ideology and you label God bullsheeet? Okay cool approach.

KingEbukasBlog:
Will you also explain the absurdities in your beliefs . Please dont run away from the thread or tell me science has not found out yet or tell me to read up - new escape tactics you guys now employ . After "bashing" christians , you'll now evade questions and run away like cowards when your there-is-no-God theories are fed with a healthy dose of skepticism .

kobosmalls:
Bye! Losers.

Im off this thread either way.

Ciao.....

You tried, entertainer. I had a nice time.

KingEbukasBlog:
Jokers entertain royals - kings - with foolishness and comedic displays . Kobosmalls has been doing a good job . Hasn't he winner01 ?

kobosmalls:
If life cant come from the non-living, then ur God himself must have come from something living too because he is alive.
Isnt he alive?

If he didnt come from any life form, then you have succeeded in putting a big hole in your logic.

And u expect to get those questions answered by jewish normadic cavemen who thought that variations in language came from a particular place, yet non of all those languages are spoken around the middle east. Igbo and yorubas should have all been found there as indigenes of isreal too not indigenes of a far away continent.

Circle leader, why not answer the questions instead of bringing up the issue of language. I will personally show you your folly on language if you answer the above questions. im not raising my expectations on yhu though.

kobosmalls:
He admitted secretly that he had no clue on how to answer my questions.

what are you on man, spit it out, and get the help you deserve. I think he has turned this into a comedy.

KingEbukasBlog:
1.Where did man 's wisdom and intelligence come from ?

2. Can life come from the non-living ?

3.What accounts for the disparity in the nature of the constituents of our material universe?

4. Why does the universe need to exist ?

kobosmalls:
You asked for human existence, i gave it to you. Had you asked for the existence of the universe, i would have shoved it in ur face.

Wow, bravo!!
infact, a standing ovation for you
In your mind, you have given answers.
lol
you've tried.

I know you are highly revered in some circles.

yeah thats right, some circles.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lolz ... the guy's reasoning don tire me .

Its either He dosent read to comprehend or deliberately does not want to. Im trying to imagine his friend laughing at my posts.

kobosmalls:
Generally,you have nothing to say, so go and hide in your moms basement while I fvk the sh1t out of her brains.