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reallest:
We were all born athesis till our parent & social feed us with religion poo

Thats a bit one sided maam, dont you think we were also born criminals, murderers, rapists, robbers, etc until our parents and society fed us with "morality shet"

Its a dead end trying to prove to anyone for that matter that something you cant see actually exists mr johnydon22...Im equally amazed when you people talk about love, minds, hatred, trust, care, disgust, morality, virtue, disbelieve etc. because in the same sense, what if these things never really existed, what if they have just been heresies passed from one generation to another to erect a standpoint of morality and immorality...I mean if you could argue to disprove the existence of a Being, One should also question the existence of such things as feelings or attitudes or related, and trust me it still is a dead end, no one has proof of these things either. The only reasonable proof available of existence of these things is simply MAN....go figure

Look around you, in every ten atheists you see, it is safe to say 6 were formerly christians due to whatever virtue. Of these ones, Only few seem to have removed their "blindfolds" through a smooth life...Even though many never say, majority of them are a victim of one form of trauma or the other.... still go figure

You faulted my point of your hatred for christianity. But last i checked most of you post your topics here even when not initially incited by christians. I question your objectivity and hope y'all will post topics at the same rate on islams page. Moreover, you claim you dont believe in any god, why is the christian God then so important..

The muslim page is filled with topics condemning immorality and so is the christian page...Claiming that spiritual threads point fingers or threaten people is a very weak premise to build on. Muslims do the same, but i dont see y'all going there and this is not an open ground like you said, its the christian section maybe....I question your objectivity and even your commitment to atheism once again...Or who knows maybe christianity is just your prime target in your list of strongholds.

And to even go further to say "muslim atheists" or mean "christian atheists" is the height of confusion...Is there even any such thing.

Dont you think people just post topics like this here because they understand the boiling hatred that will make you stay here...Yeah, i could turn your words the other way round and say we accord you the same attention you give to us here.

You say muslims isolate themselves in one section, why not let us do the same and see if we would have this talk...Dont you think it would be fair to give this same attention to the muslim god on islams page since you feel indifferent about "both gods".. but naah, i dont think so. the christian God seems so important to you.

This thread alone shows nothing but what i feel at the moment, The bible has a united description of atheists, muslims, and other unbelievers..and so i dont regard atheists above any other of their kind.

Yeah we say He is coming soon because He said it...The dictionary you are referring me to was collated by a created human just like you, i doubt its credibilty against the Word of the Creator.

Only a lie can be buried, they tried to bury the truth, but he resurrected and he will be on the lips of many even years after your exit from "self created" earth.

Finally, We wont pray for you to stop, we will only pray that you find God before time runs out on you except of course, with critical analysis there might be no such thing as time...It could still be one of those craps passed down to us by our primitive parents allegdely indicated by a ticking machine..

Mehn i dont have to deal with your bullshit everyday oo, there are greater things to do tomorrow than to be deceitfully occupied...

Atheists might come at me for this one, but its a question of your commitment to atheism

Ive been burning with the question as to why atheists hate christianity soo much. Yeah i said christianity because i HARDLY find them arguing to disprove other religions (even though they claim to not believe in any form of god).....In my curiousity i checked up on the profile of some atheists on and off nairaland.

on nairaland, i confirmed my suspicion, as some atheists actually posted articles ranging from "hope and light seeking questions" to "spirit filled topics" to "questions as to why God allows bad things to happen to good people" in their oldest topics.
off nairaland, i also confirmed my suspicion, as 90% of all atheists ive seen so far were once christians whom one form of tragedy or trauma or the other befell.

I can also decided to conduct a survey here on nairaland. In the religion section, you can look up the christianity front page and Islam front page and then estimate in ratio the number of God-haters on both pages...it is so crystal clear..

I recently saw the popular movie "God's not dead" and i guess the producer had the whole picture in mind.

You feel you are rich, successful, intelligent and self sufficient, well maybe there is a reason why the devil is called the master deceiver or on the other hand life has been so unfair to you that you feel no Good God should ever permit such things, well maybe there is a reason for your life.

But really after the big bang, could everything just settle in a perfect order.. If true, maybe that was just a great obedience to a supreme command. If really God created us, then i dont believe that our life time is long enough to fully know who this Creator is. you can call me myopic, i also dont believe that he wants us to know everything.

We can try harder but we are still the created. take for instance; death of a loved one could be painful, but someone told me to see it as a transition...this might explain how different our ways are from God's

I could also ask free thinkers to prove that life itself is not an illusion.

I wonder where those great philosophers of old are right now, maybe some of them could just come back and tell us who they were really working for.

Enough said, I believe the physical is largely controlled by the spiritual and i also believe that our common enemy is trying to make everything seem physical to keep us in a particular state till time runs out on us.

The same spirit of the anti-christ in atheists is also similar to that of the occultic group "illuminati" that speak and sing blasphemous songs against the christian God.,the occultic group hardly mentions other gods. They simply know the truth about who the Creator really is,

put the pieces together and see the big picture.

hvq229:
I stumbled on to this thread. Without going into much detail I'll outline what is effective discipline. Children, teenagers up to the age of 21 need boundaries, they require rules-- it's your responsibility as the guardian to set those rules and boundaries. It's not just because your the guardian and have the authority to do it. the child should understand it's for her own good. for her moral well being among other things. You should make her aware of the consequences of poor behavior not just the flogging she'll get but in the outside world. Adults you have to let experience those for themselves. A child you can protect from even if it means her bottom will be sore for a few days.

the basic rules for effective discipline as to boundaries and rules

1. it needs to be age appropriate

2. it needs to be clearly understood by the child both when it's announced and when punishment is to be applied for an infraction of the rule.

3. it needs to be fair and reasonable. What that is can be a matter of interpretation. A couple of following guidelines will clarify it. Another thing which can be done is to the extent the child is capable and without forfeiting your authority and responsibility as her guardian is to allow her to participate in setting the rules

4. Punishment needs to be proportional to the offense and consistently and fairly applied. When the child is being prepared for a flogging you need to assess if it's not unreasonable or erratic-- The child should be clear why she's being punished--it can't be that she doesn't know or understand

5. Rules must be both firm and flexible-- flexible doesn't mean they can be ignored at will without consequence but allows for the guardian to consider the particular circumstance and allow the child's input into the reasons for her disobedience-- and thus enable her to better understand the need for correction

6. Corporal punishment should be administered in private. For teenagers if possible it should be done by a parent or guardian of the same gender. This is particularly true if the child is to be unclad when undergoing correction.

Very true

Phoenix001:
The minister is on point. But I hope he doesn't have political ambition

not the way i see it

Joavid:
Because society rewards objectification
very well, and some women capitalize on that.


Even the most simple everyday actions like
wearing heels or dabbing on lipstick as a means of self expression in an ideal world, are simply pandering to the patriarchal idea that women's appearance is of prime importance.

If you ask one of those questions, "guys what do you want in a girlfriend/wife" the first things mentioned are usually looks, followed by a few things not that far from looks.

And very rarely do I hear that women themselves complain about being objectified Its like the ones who do, enjoy it and the ones who don't, don't care.

So why this topic sef? Op, you dey find trouble o.

so which category do you fall, those who enjoy objectification or those who dont care?

ANBAKO:
In Nigeria, everyone believes it is only government that is responsible for the country's woe.
Diversification of the economy starts from you and me....Large corporations like Shell, IKEA, Samsung, Toyota were created by people with solid ideas and not government. So let us start something. Nigeria is bad, Nigeria is bad but people like Dangote are creating wealth and employment.

Where are all the government large companies today? Delta Steel, Ajaokuta, NALSCON, NEPA, NITEL, Nigeria Airways

Those companies were created with ideas solidly backed by substantial capital..i stand to be corrected......Dangote was born with a silver spoon, infact his relatives dantata and co. were extremely wealthy when he was a kid......Nigeria has made the environment very buisness-unfriendly for the average Nigerian......But like the saying goes, you are responsible for your life and what you make out of it...

Israel5:
na wetin entr my mind 2 cal d Op

ode

BEHOLD THE NEW WORLD THAT SATAN IS RE-CREATING IN OUR DAYS…. Gender neutrality is Satan’s latest assault weapon against the purpose of God in our generation. By blurring the gender lines, Satan hopes to turn God’s eternal order of creation upside down. Here are some of the new buzz words: Gender-neutral marriage (gay marriage) Gender-neutral leadership at home Gender-neutral leadership in church Gender-neutral bathrooms A gender-neutral ‘God’ A gender-neutral ‘God’ is the latest demand of the Christian feminist movement. According to them, when we use a male pronoun for God, we are belittling women and extolling the ‘superiority’ of men. And then they ask these questions, “Why do we use masculine terms when alluding to God, why not feminine terms? Why do we say ‘God is raising a peculiar people to Himself?’ why not, ‘God is raising a peculiar people to Herself?’ It is entirely pointless to get into a debate about if God is male or female. We may never have a clear answer to this question. However, it is quite helpful that Jesus taught us to pray “Our Father, who art in heaven…” not “Our Mother, who art in heaven….” This, as well as lots of similar Scriptures, at least, gives us the liberty to use the male pronoun for God. Brothers and sisters, while we are marching on with civilisation and modernity, we must be careful not to get too sucked into the world that Satan is creating for his own children. The brain- washing has started in earnest - both in the world and, sadly, in the Church…. You have your own Father; please align with His purpose by acknowledging and respecting His order of creation. It is a FUNDAMENTAL requirement of our faith. It is highly hypocritical for the Church to kick against gay marriage while we embrace female leadership in the Church – they are both fruits of the same tree!!! Gender-neutrality is the name of the game! We have a choice of holding on to God’s eternal word in 1 Corinthians 11:3, or choosing to swim with the world. We cannot have it both ways! Thanks for reading, God bless.

Israel5:
Ogbono!

ogbono kwa

Lately, there has been much discussion about violence against women by the men in their life. Many have said there is never a good reason for a man to strike a woman but I disagree and today I am speaking out! there are four good reasons for a man to hit the woman he loves;

1. Fire. If you look over at the woman you love and
discover flames have overtaken your girl, you
should absolutely knock her to the ground and
start rolling her around.

2. Spider. If your princess discovers a spider
wandering across her shoulder and with sheer
terror in her voice says “GET. IT. Off! You should
smack that 8 legged sucker right off of her.

3. Choking. If over dinner she begins to laugh at
another one of your amazingly funny stories and in
the process, lodges a bit of her steak in her throat,
you have my full support to yank her out of her
chair, spin her around and start squeezing her
beneath her ribcage until she spits up!

4. Train. If, while enjoying a peaceful, after dinner
walk with your lover, you notice she has wandered
into the path of a quickly approaching oncoming
train, by all means, grab her by her arm and like
the strong man you are, yank her backwards
aggressively.

Absent the presence of fire, spiders, choking or trains, there is never, ever, ever, ever, ever a justifiable reason for a man to strike a woman. Period. real men don’t do it.
“Real men don’t allow other men to hit women either.”
I call upon my brothers-in-manhood everywhere to join with me in ZERO TOLERANCE for violence against women. Don’t hit and don’t tolerate hitting. That woman you see getting abused by her “man”, at the club or in the parking lot or even, oh let’s say, an elevator; intervene. Put yourself between the abuser and the victim. Is that dangerous? Could be. But it’s what a real man would do. Always remind yourself when you witness violence on a woman- that is somebody’s mother, daughter or sister.

Just for the record, it IS your business if you decide to make it your business.

What were you expecting to see at first?, some form of justification for hitting women?, come off it bruv

xender:
divisify d economy.

make we 4get abt oil

Thats our problem, we seem overdependent on oil..

lilmax:
beyonce their role model, portraying feminism with unclothedness and at the end they blame men

feminists may come at you for this

jascon1:
There's nothing to be done just now, but for each one to hold on to his own values and look to God not to succumb to any pressure or be sidetracked.

God help us

As the world population surges to 9 billion people by 2050
and demands on the global food supply soar, the greatest
opportunity for profits in agriculture may be in Africa.
Seventy percent of the world’s uncultivated arable land is
on the continent, according to Sara Menker, the founder of
Gro Intelligence, an agricultural data company with offices
in New York City and Kenya.
And if there is any one country that is taking advantage of
the opportunity, it’s China. The People’s Republic has
bought up about 12 million acres of land to grow grains
that get shipped back to China, Menker told a packed tent
of 425 entrepreneurs, investors and agriculture executives
at the Forbes Reinventing America AgTech Summit in
Salinas, California on Thursday. “The world doesn’t know
about it because these are really quiet deals,” she added.
“These are large-scale farming operations in sesame,
wheat, corn for export to China. It doesn’t really interact
with the African farmer. It doesn’t get traded locally. It is
purely for Chinese export.”
The Chinese investments are not bearing fruit just yet.
There may be plenty of land in Africa, but much of the
rural landscape isn’t connected to ports by adequate
infrastructure. That means new investors on the continent,
which also include governments like Saudi Arabia, Qatar,
and the United Arab Emirates, have to spend billions of
dollars clearing land and building roads before they can
even start farming.
Private Indian agriculture companies have had even more
trouble getting started, Menker said, because they don’t
have huge government budgets to fund infrastructure
improvements. “They have been less successful because the
economics are really hard to deal with in the early stages,”
Menker said. “You have to deploy billions of dollars from
the get-go.”
But the investments don’t appear to be slowing down.
Menker predicts that much of the world’s food will
eventually come from Africa. “It’s really about where
opportunities are for new farmland exist,” she said. “You’ll
see a lot more commercial production shift to different
parts of the world.”


The photo below : Sara Menker, founder of Gro Intelligence, speaks at the Forbes AgTech Summit in Salinas, California on July 9. Photo credit:
Glen Davis / Forbes

kevinberry:
that will only happen if polygamy is legalise in america,after all we have to be tolerant of each other sex life and wishes

not only polygamy, incest, necrophilia and beastiality sgmhould be legalized

keeptalkin:
it all crap you wrote up there

oh really

slimyem:
Not far from the truth. Femininity is cheapened by women themselves. Some of these things just make some of us numb. Makes it hard to defend the some who stand out.
The other day, I saw a woman trying to catch a bouquet with her vulva out for the world to see and another one grinding her a$$ in a video while other women hailed her on . Shameful behavior all over the place. The only checking we do is talk about it and it doesn't stop the rot anyways..

haha, nothn wen man no go hear oo, hw person go catch bouquet with her vulva?

lalasticlala, ishilove
una no go move this to promise land, but if na tonto dike snap one useless picture...na speed e go take reach der. smh

sim37:
possible

with God all things are possible...

I miss great men of God who shook Nigeria and caused great revivals both home and abroad.....I miss Arc Bishop Idahosa, Baba Joseph Ayo Babalolaand their likes..God used them to heal the sick, raise the dead and draw people unto him.
Our world might have changed, but God remains the same for ever and ever.
Our God is mighty to save....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRT_dYIhSHE

freecocoa:
You are welcome, the story wasn't about me, it was about someone I know.

Yea, I have had my own share of what life throws at us, I am very passionate, that always stirs up emotions.

Sorry for your loss, it's not something I wish anyone.

I wonder how such girl will see anything positive in life, the man should be jailed for life...
well, life goes on no matter what.., and it always has its bright side...we look there.

Women are more than just bodies. yeah we've heard this severally..even though the female self objectification trend is visibly different. Though most ladies speak against objectification, they are in one way or the other guilty of it..




SELFIES

Most female selfies nowadays are provocative, ranging from body exposure to poses to facial expression..take for instance:
A BBM contact upload a picture of herself squatting in a mini skirt, just to reveal how big her a** is, or how fleshy her thighs are or even how well she can ride "it".
Another contact backed the camera, just to show how big her a** is...
Some take their pictures to show how much cleavage they got.
A facebook contact too captured her side view in the bathroom and used her hands to cover her b**bs. well, she got many likes.
Another contact cropped out her head and legs, leaving her true identity.
Another kissing a banana seductively
Majority are guilty of shooting out their behind in pictures and several other related actions




MUSIC VIDEOS

I need not say much on this as it almosts seems as if u dont employ the services of a vixen that can wind and twist like a snake, your video will be boring..The emphasis in music now tilts more towards how necessary caro's body is...I walked into female hall as an undergraduate and overheard some girls arguing on who twerks better...Smh..




WESTERN INFLUENCE

Many of our ladies make role models of foreign "celebrities" to their own detriments. take for instance:

Beyoncé sings in “Check On It”:
Ohh, boy you looking like you like what you see
Won’t you come over and check up on it
I’m gone let you work up on it
Ladies let em check up on it
Watch it while he check up on it…
If you got it, flaunt it, boy I know you want it
While I turn around you watch me check up on it
Ooh, you watchin’ me shake it, I see it in ya face
Ya can’t take it, it’s blazin, you watch me in
amazement.

Britney Spears sings in “Oops! I Did It
Again”:
I played with your heart, got lost in the game
Oh baby, baby
Oops! You think I’m in love
That I’m sent from above
I’m not that innocent.

Ke$ha in “Blah Blah Blah”:
“I don’t really care where you live at
Just turn around, boy, let me hit that
Don’t be a little bitch with your chit chat
Just show me where your dick’s at.

The Pussycat Dolls in “Don’t Cha”:
I know you like me
I know you do
That’s why whenever I come around
She’s all over you
I know you want it
It’s easy to see
And in the back of your mind
I know you should be on with me
Don’t cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

Nicki minaj and one twerk it song like that
amongst others

well in conclusion, i think girls are the cause of their problems, guys have a personal responsibility here too.

Ive heard ladies say things like "I like dressing sexy! I like being sexy I like getting attention from guys!” Its all fun.. Well, dont cry foul when your bubbles burst..

Thanks, I felt remorse instantly when I read ur moms part ...Ive also lost loved ones too Ms freecocoa and i hate when its referred to.....many of ur topics are emotional, i want to say uv gone thru quite a lot....the story about the other dad, was that you ??

Ms freecocoa, I chose this topic to comment on cos i feel its less sensitive and also to avoid bringing back some memories cos i know this might move back to the front page of this section. Ive come accross a couple of your comments in some interesting threads of recent and i feel you spark up easily (take no offence, my opinion)....Hence my curiousity led me to some of your old topics....In short, im deeply sorry for taking a jab at your parents, im also sorry for any insults i threw at you...i hope you forgive me, thanks and have a +ve life..

hvq229:
thank you for the advice it's been helpful. I think we're making progress with the girl. I can't think she'll want another spanking so as long as her bottom still hurts and she can remember why her aunt's strap was laid on it she won't be rushing out to see this boy in defiance of her parents wishes. Of course we'll have to get her to understand why we don't want her to see and fornicate with this boy

You are welcome sir.

Joy1706:
NEWS FLASH: we women have mothers......and GUESS WHAT? We love love love and respect them so much too. So hw about you learn 10 or maybe 23 different ways to kiss ur MIL"s aszzz eh?

men seldom beef themselves, women mostly beef themselves even when its needless...thats the reason for that list.

hvq229:
just curious. Do you have any concerns about baring her bottom. If I were to spank her I think that would be a concern but then the strap is more effective on bare skin.

shes 17 so pls dont bare her bottom...

hvq229:
said I was going to flog her. Thought about it some more and decided not to. Her mother's been pushing for it. Anyway my wife's sister came over with her strap; we talked for a while and we agreed to let the child's aunt spank her with the strap. She's spanked the child before when she had been living with her. better I think a woman do it -- her aunt has her bare her bottom--I am not sure I would do that

After the spanking, when shes sober...her aunt and mother can now advise her gently...I hope it works

Demmzy15:
Christ commanded murders, rape, etc in the Bible na, so if those people do that they're automatically following Christ!


I don't understand what you mean by covenant, but hope you aren't trying to contradict Mathew 5:17


Lol, the first transcript or a passage of the bible in Arabic was in 867AD which was more than 200years after Prophet Muhammad died. Moreover, the bible of today was compiled during the 'Reformation' which was 900years after Prophet Muhammad died, in which Catholics and Protestants were still killing themselves about the books that should contain the bible! So which bible are you talking about?!


Which stories?! Is it stories that deny Jesus's divinity and his death?! Or stories that refute the bible about Lot committing ince'st?! Please be specific and name the so-called 'Jewish Scholars'?!

Christ commanded RAPE and MURDER....OK, Bye

Demmzy15:
Show me where in the QURAN that said Prophet Muhammad married Aisha when she was 9years!

oga biko, i no dey for long debate....even person dey ask me wer houris(virgins) dey for quran...No problem, may God help you.

bashbabe2:
I can't see anyone of you acting like christ. The way he's condemned you from calling him son of God is the same way he will condemn you for the level of blasphemy and hatred most of you are showing. It shows your churchs don't teach you morals. It's all about miracles for you guys anyway Not surprised to see most of you act this way

You mean the way he condemned thomas for worchipping him in John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My
Lord and my God.

or about 600 years before christ came to earth, when the Lord showed prophet Isaiah a vision ............ For unto us a Child is born, unto us a son is given; and
the government will be upon His shoulder: and his
name will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty
God , The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 (written: 712 BC (Before Christ)

or when the Jews wanted to stone him to death for blasphemy in John 10:30 when esus said:
I and my Father are one .

Or when the High priests were ignorant like you in when they asked Him again , Art thou the Christ, the Son
of the Blessed?
And Jesus said, I Am in mark 14:61

or when he was asked to show God in John 14:9 and he said that he that hath seen me hath seen the Father ; and how
sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

or titus revelation .........Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious
appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus
Christ; Titus 2:13

Or the revelation of prophet Zechariah hundreds of years before Jesis time on earth In Zechariah 12:10 the LORD (Yahweh) is
speaking and says that, “they will look on Me
whom they have pierced.” This is obviously
Jesus speaking (Psalm 22:16; John 19:34).
This passage from Zechariah appears again in
Revelation 1:7b and is clearly about Jesus
Christ.

Or Philippians which says Therefore God exalted him to the highest
place and gave him a name which is above
every name; that at the name of Jesus every
knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and
under the earth, and that every tongue should
confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory
of God the Father. Philippians 2:9-11.


You are human and the works of God, you cant comprehend. it is a mystery, the yorubas call it "aditu"
1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery
of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh , Justified in the
Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed
on in the world, Received up in glory.

Yes it sounds foolish, but we are just his creations....
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those
who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is
the power of God. 1st cor 1:18

God is trinity, even you are trinity..... www.nairaland.com/1939388/god-trinity-man-trinity-created