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hopefulLandlord:
yeah, its funny how Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah and died for their sins while other people who didn't even experience Jesus first hand believe it

its like Nigerians claiming Ronald Reagan died for our sins while Americans look at us as though we are insane



To address the OP

if Jesus happens to be the Messiah, they're going to hell, with the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and everyone who didn't accept that a Jew who died in a small village in far away Israel died for their sins

You go te. We will continue to believe in God.

And concerning hell, the only thing you can do about it is wail on Nairaland. It wont change reality.

dalaman:
Christians, will present day Jews go to heaven?

CC winner01, KingEbukasBlog.

John answered your question a long time ago "Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life"...

Whosoever!!!

promise101:
See an atheist bishop who decides who is an atheist and who is not.

Tell me more pls!

lol

Pidggin:
I wonder why Seun and other athiests have avoided this thread. Come and doubt this miracle once again, we are waiting for you

It is a very difficult thread to address especially when you have given them the proof they want to see.
The best thing is to avoid it like a plague.

KingEbukasBlog:
God is good

God is a God of miracles

God is Great

This article exposes the foolishness of atheism etc .

Very correct!!!

Lennycool:
If time hadn't began then how was the creator acting, as he too must not exist. Infinite regress?

Are you saying nothing existed before time

Why not free your mind from the close cell of atheism

theoneJabulani:
u are very ......... I was having a reasonable discuss with her then she started the insults and bringing my parents in. Pls don't get on my bad side.

What is your bad side

How old are these people

Ask the same question in different ways and your answer will remain the same.

This is your answer:https://www.nairaland.com/2816262/god-created-everything-created-god


Infinite regress is totally your making and yours alone.

There is something called eternal or timelessness. It is a scientific fact that TIME and space has a beginning.

Whatever or Whoever was acting before time began is timeless/eternal i.e no beginning, no end.

Its tiring repeating the same thing over and over again. Nature does not jump. Nothing exists by itself. Immense Beauty is not accidental.

Go chill out, we will continue to believe in God.

AnonyNymous:
You can continue your blindness. From this reply, you did not even read my post properly. I suggest you calm down and don't give yourself high bp. As I've said, your fellow crusader winner01 is seeing the futility in the atheism vs theism fight/debate. So you can continue to try to prove that someone else is wrong, or you can make effort to address the problems that caused this debate/argument in the first place.
Once again, all anyone wants a a world where everybody can live peacefully, respect everyone else's opinions and address things from a fair/neutral viewpoint.

Relax Bro, I myself do not enjoy the debates. I'm here for other people. People who might be misled. Many of them have contacted me to show their appreciation. I usually thought it was futile. It isn't afterall.
Peace is the most important thing like you have said. The Bible enjoins us to "Follow peace with all men, without which no man shall see God". WE also want this peace.

You people need to understand that I have lived life without God. I have sought many explanations to eraze the reality of God from my mind. I'm a very critical person. At the end of the day, I found God.

Like an atheist once told me "Anyone who looks for God will find Him, its better not to look for Him"..

If you have more clips of this kind, please post them here. And please make sure those clips come up with new arguments. It rather tiring adressing the same arguments over and over again. Atheism does not seem to have any new arguments.

Seun are you seeing this. You know you cant ridicule religion for long.

theoneJabulani:
Nope

So you cant have a reasonable conversation. Later you will be screaming "reason" upandan.

Weah96:
He called you generous for INCREASING the global percentage of atheists from your usual 2% figure to 10%.

So maybe he already knows that 2 is smaller than 10.

I ddnt increase it to 10%. I said "less than 10%".

But is 2% not less than 10% I am not understanding

ashjay001:
Seriously, Jesus is not d common factor. The same way u advised atheists to google info, u too, need to google deep n wide enough. And, u'll discover, everyone experiences magic/miracles/spontaneous remissions, irrespective of their religious practices!

Help us with those examples, we have taken pain to give ours.

Edenoscar:
no worry nah una plenty pass
If you dont belong to any of this you're also part of the 2%
Catholic Church- 1,166 million
*. Latin Church- 1,149 million
*. Catholic Charismatic Renewal- 160 million
*. Personal Ordinariate for former Anglicans- 0.005 million
*. Eastern Catholic Churches- 17 million
*. Alexandrian Rite
*. Ethiopian Catholic Church- 0.2 million
*. Coptic Catholic Church- 0.2 million
*. Antiochene Rite
*. Maronite Catholic Church- 3.1 million
*. Syro-Malankara Catholic Church- 0.4 million
*. Syriac Catholic Church- 0.1 million
*. Armenian Rite
*. Armenian Catholic Church- 0.4 million
Breakaway Catholic Churches- 28 million
*. Philippine Independent Church- 6 million
*. Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association- 5 million
*. Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church- 5 million
*. Traditionalist Mexican-American Catholic Church- 2 million
*. Old Catholic Church- 0.1 million
*. Polish National Catholic Church- 0.025 million
*. Apostolic Catholic Church- 0.005 million
Baptist churches- 75-105 million
*. Southern Baptist Convention- 15.7 million
*. National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.- 8.5 million
*. National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.- 3.1 million
*. Nigerian Baptist Convention- 2.5 million
*. Progressive National Baptist Convention- 2.5 million
*. Baptist General Convention of Texas- 2.3 million
*. Baptist Union of Uganda- 1.5 million
*. American Baptist Churches USA- 1.4 million
*. Brazilian Baptist Convention- 1.3 million
*. Baptist Bible Fellowship International- 1.2 million
*. Baptist Community of the Congo River- 1 million
*. National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A.- 1 million
Lutheranism- 70-90 million
*. Evangelical Church in Germany- 24.5 million
*. Ethiopian Evangelical Church Mekane Yesus- 7.9 million
*. Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania- 6.5 million
*. Church of Sweden- 6.3 million
*. United Evangelical Lutheran Churches in India- 4.5 million
*. Batak Christian Protestant Church- 4.5 million
Nondenominational evangelicalism- 80 million
*. Calvary Chapel- 25 million
*. Born Again Movement- 3 million
*. Association of Vineyard Churches- 15 million
*. Christian and Missionary Alliance- 4 million
*. Church of God (Anderson, Indiana)- 1.2 million
*. African initiatedProtestant churches - 60 million
*. Zion Christian Church- 15 million
*. Eternal Sacred Order of Cherubim and Seraphim- 10 million
*. Kimbanguist Church- 5.5 million
*. Church of the Lord (Aladura)- 3.6 million
*. Council of African Instituted Churches- 3 million
*. Church of Christ Light of the Holy Spirit- 1.4 million
*. African Church of the Holy Spirit- 0.7 million
*. African Israel Church Nineveh- 0.5 million
*. Seventh-day Adventist Church- 18.1 million
*. New Apostolic Church- 10 million
i didnt even include mountain of fire an co

I am not understanding , i thought it was atheism vs theism.

dalaman:
Do you think winner01 truly believes in anything called love. I remember when he started posting here on the religious section about 2 years ago. All his post then we're anti Islam. He goes there to spew his hate and try to show the muslims that they are wrong and will burn for being muslims. Christians just talk about love without having any in their minds. Look at church today does it look like a place where there is any love? He just use christianity to hide and promote his hate and bigotry.

I told muslims they will burn in hell
I cant remember this

Whatever the church is doing that is not christlike can be judged from the life of Christ.

Dalaman, you know that Christ preached love. It does not matter if some christians willingly go against this teaching. We can call them out for it.

DeSepiero:
All these conversion stories have elements of humanism in them. It was beautifully expressed by Akdegreat in his wonderful story. I wish there were more humanists.

Akdegreat did not claim to be an atheist.

BodyKiss:
Why so generous today? It's no longer 2%?

So you dont know that 2% is less than 10%

I just helped you include deists, agnostics etc na

EyeHateGod:
winner01 after reading the thread or i guess he wouldn't

Ehyaa im really crying because atheism has been growing since the 15th century and still less than 10% of the worlds population today.

Catholic turned atheist
What can we do than to pray for them.

AnonyNymous:
Hypocrisy repels me
Everything I've ever seen in Christianity: The bible, the preachers, the followers, all reek of hypocrisy. Islam is even worse. 'Theism' does not repel me. Whether or not a god exists wouldn't matter at all if all humans learned to live in harmony and love each other. However, that's not what religion does. Look at someone (a Christian) wishing death on Miss Anambra because she's a lesbian. Hypocrisy at it's finest. I believe nobody goes around creating threads on people who believe Santa Claus is real

I admit humans are hypocrites. Many humans are irregardless of their worldviews. However you know the kind of example Christ was. Christ is our standard. The fallibility of christians does not take away the validity of the good news of Christ. Christ instructed us all to live in love, and i believe that as we strive towards acheiving this, the world will be better.

If someone wished death on another, he can be called out for it and corrected. Christ did not show such example, christ came for the unsaved.

AnonyNymous:
Why? Santa followers are non judgemental and do not tell you that an eternal fire of pain and torture is burning, waiting for you just because you don't agree with them. Santa followers do not scam you of your hard earned money, picking verses from a section of a book to back up their scam, but then ignoring sections that preach regulations like eating shellfish or managing slaves. Neither do followers of the flying spaghetti monster or the invisible pink unicorn.

No human/christian has the right to tell you that you are going to hell, it is unbiblical. They should be more concerned about where they will spend their eternity. These are the things Christ never did. If people are doing it today, it does not discredit the truthfulness of christ.

AnonyNymous:
If you notice I've hardly been on here because I'm searching for the truth, and feel like I'm figuring some more things out. But that is nobody else's business but mine.
I would go with "Anything but hypocrisy"
Look at you hear, after declaring a 'war' on atheists, then you now come back and tell them that you love them, and then in the comments again, bash the same atheists that you just claimed you love. I will stop having a problem with religion the moment it actually helps society irregardless of who a person is.
After all, positive thinking is not 'real' but it motivates people to achieve their goals.

Its good you're searching for the truth. Its what any open minded person should do. I hope you find what you're looking for
I've never declared war on atheists. It not my fault if they feel offended by my threads. I'm sure that they are aware that some people feel offended by theirs.

AnonyNymous:
It's simple. If your god has been helping people do things, if your god has been interfering in your life, helping you win that contract, or helping someone find a wife, why can't he extend his so called 'benevolence' to eradicate world hunger/poverty? Or, is that god really just a figment of your imagination? Are you attributing the fact that you achieved something you didn't think you could to external powers? I'd tell you to believe in yourself and have more confidence in yourself instead of attributing your success to an external force, but blaming your failures on your self alone. You are responsible for both your successes and failures. You alone.

I fully agree with the bolded, i'm sure other christians agree too. That's freewill at work.

GRIMMJOE:
Are you sure you know about this God or the bible at all
Psalm 34:16
But the LORD turns his face against those who do evil; he will erase their memory from the earth.
Last I checked there's still more than enough evil left on earth

Ok. So where did he say he will eradicate evil Am i missing something?

raphieMontella:
winner01...i have a parable for you...
Its called----parable of the canoe Trip...

Ok. I read it

What now appen

GRIMMJOE:
Take a chair and seriously think about it,if there is a God do we need money at all to eradicate poverty ?,won't prayer be enough? Think before you reply,thank you

And where does God say the prayers of man can clean up all the evil in the world.

Why not do a thorough research on what you intend to criticize

raphieMontella:
i thought i was the only one that saw the crap!

Mehn, i thought you were a bit milder in this ignorance.

AnonyNymous:
Lol
I thought winner01 declared war on atheists
Now he's trying to convince them that his god loves them. The thing is, you don't declare war on people you love. And keep an eternal burning pit for them. That doesn't make sense.

I dont get this
You are not an atheist, you've claimed to be a deist.

Why then does theism repel you more than atheism

Would you also go with "Anything but God"

mrmrmister:
Winner01 we love God too, just like we love Cinderella

Naah... You dont talk about cinderella now do you

CoolUsername:
This is exactly what I'm talking about, you've said that I'm angry and you've locked on to that. Nothing I say will ever sway that because you are not confined by logic and common sense like some other losers would be. No, you will stick to you guns even if they misfire and kill your family.

Thus is the way of the troll...

The way of the winner...

The way of Winner01...

This right here is too much anger coming from one man

CoolUsername:
That's exactly what I'm saying. That's why I'm telling you to troll like you normally do, it's what makes you Winner01. People like me go through trouble to provide reputable citations and sources and all that fuccboi nonsense but you and your gang don't care about that, you can proudly say outlandish things without any reasonable source and try to make people scramble to find refutations of such claims that don't even deserve time of day and then declare yourself the winner.

Today's post lacked that effortless vibe of a true circlejerk post. It gets a 2.5/10.

You are still very angry.....You're not thinking clearly. You need to go get something to eat...

analice107:
Lets start with you proving with evidence that God created a fiery abyss for you.

He won't go there sis.... ehn ehn....

menxer:
Once upon a time, Christianity was a new age philosophy.

Christianity was introduced by the Christ. It was the lifestyle of christ at the time. I remain unshakably convinced that It is what the world needs.

CoolUsername:
I'm not angry. I'm calmly asserting that you are an avid sh!tposter. Not even the quality 4chan type, the real, foamy, semi-solid variant.

Today is an improvement; the problem is that it's boring. If you're not going to post quality content then you should probably just stick your usual inflammatory shenanigans.

I can post anything i feel like until seun decides to finally ban me for life

But seriously dude, you still sound angry. And you dont have to be.

theoneJabulani:
really? Yahweh is a blood loving maniac, deal with it

Did you know that if you fail to prepare for exams, you have automatically chosen failure, even though no one likes failure?.

Nightie:
Sir, dey won't believe/listen to u.
Since dey av made up dia mind abt d path dey wanna take, derz ntin u'll say, post or talk abt dat will change dia heart except dey are williing to knw d truth den datz wen God comes in.

You"re right sis.

But we should keep preaching the word as well as challenging new age philosophies, if for nothing, because falsehood needs to be addressed and because young maturing christians need to be intellectually equipped against ravaging lions.