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Weah96:A Creator wont be burdened about ideas or constraints if He didnt care about us. Whoever puts us here cares what humans do. Its rational to believe that. So its not even about religion, its about foreign religion to you? |
AnonyNymous:You care, thats why you want people to disbelieve in God with you. Again, how do you intend to reduce religious power and influence without infringing on the rights of people. |
donnffd:I also dont know why atheists spend so much time trying to convince people not to believe in God. No single atheist has been able to outline the benefits of atheism over christianity, so why do they desperately want to take away the values of people who find happiness with God? Beats me really!! donnffd:Christian Logic: It has been proven that the universe had a beginning, the known dimensions of the universe include time and space. And these sprang into existence with the universe. Human, who are a product of the universe, absorb, reinforce and reflect within the CONFINES of time and space. What was in existence before time and space does not fit into the human brain. It cant even be called nothing. The human idea of nothing is a part of time and space. Whoever was acting before the universe began is not subject to time (timeless) and space. When something is timeless, it is eternal i.e no beginning, no end. To ask who created an eternal being is to assume that this being is confined by time. But we know time has a beginning. We are talking of a God before the beginning. An Eternal God. donnffd:Christian Logic : Life really cannot come from non-life, every scientific evidence has pointed us back to the fact that life can only come from pre-existing life forms. The existence of life and available evidence defies all known scientific theories attempting to prove its origin. It is rational enough to believe that life came from the Giver of life donnffd:Christian Logic: There is no evolutionary need to mutate into a man, because it has greatly lowered the reproductive capabilities and reduced the chances of survivability of our species. The lower life forms such as bacteria, viruses and protozoa that we supposedly evolved from are sexless and far more prolific. If they can reproduce by far simpler methods, why can’t we? If evolution is true, what went wrong? Also, before men allegedly mutated from women, how were the women reproducing, since they needed males to fertilize their eggs and ensure their continuity? It takes greater faith to believe in nonsense than sense. Christians believe that God created male and female beings, and each of these reproduces after their kinds. Bonus: Instead of calling the nipples useless, just say we dont know its importance yet, like you claimed in your second logic. Learning is an ongoing process, do not demonstrate infinite knowledge. donnffd:Christian Logic: The statement/conclusion that science is the best route to knowledge is in itself unscientific and unproven. It assumes that everything - from the universe, to human emotion, to spiritual experiences - is explainable through scientific research. To arrive at valid scientific conclusions: You 1. Figure out the problem 2. Research 3. Hypothesis 4. Experiment 5. Analyze results 6. Conclusions 7. Communicate results So we can see that such statement is a philosophical premise, not a scientific conclusion. The only way to definitively prove that science explains everything would be to have exhaustive knowledge of all reality, and then be able to explain (using only scientific data) what all reality is and what it means. Such a feat is impossible. Therefore, the belief that science is the best source of knowledge must be accepted on faith, since it cannot be verified through testing. Also we need to ask why knowledge better is than ignorance since nothing matters. Atheists may respond that if you believe wrong things or don’t know enough about your environment, you’re less likely to survive and flourish. But this explanation only applies to a small amount of scientific knowledge. There is little survival value in knowing, for example, the complicated workings of time-space theory, or the genus of certain insects, or the distance from Jupiter to Mars. All of these facts are pursued by scientists as being intrinsically valuable, yet they offer little information that can help guarantee a species’ continued existence. The real explanation is that scientists pursue these facts because there’s intrinsic value in knowing what’s true about the world, regardless of how much help it gives us. Human beings believe knowing is better than ignorance because they believe truth is better than falsity, and light is better than darkness. But where does such a conclusion come from? Not from scientific principles. Science itself offers no self-evident account for why it should be pursued. You cannot study science hard enough to understand why you should study science at all. To study science presupposes a valuing of truth that must be experienced outside of scientific study. It’s only rational to pursue scientific knowledge that doesn’t offer immediate survival value if there is some external, transcendent value in knowing truth. Christianity offers an explanation for why knowing truth is valuable. Atheism does not. If the material universe is all there was, is, and ever will be, then science itself is nothing more than a shot in the dark. If, however, human beings are the products of an infinitely greater mind, then we have justification for believing that true and false are valuable realities and not just delusions of cell bags crawling in a ball of dust floating somewhere in space. donnffd:Christian Logic: The universe cannot create us to live, suffer and die. It does not follow. Mindlessness does not create mind. There is a strain we feel everywhere, between the forces of ; Good and evil, Success and failure, Truth and err, Light and darkness and ultimately life and death. The contention of these forces are evident in our world. If death or any of those elements listed above is simply natural like everything, atheists wont contend with christians for the truth. Everyone seems to value truth even when some proclaim that the universe cares less about our truths or error. The atheists contention for the truth defies their claims of naturalistic purposelessness. If humans did not arise by any known natural process, its makes sense to disregard death as a natural process. donnffd:There is enough proof that there was a global flood. Reasonable people are somewhat slaves to proof. All available evidence points in the direction of a Creator. If you really believe the universe is all there is, the truth or falshood wont mean so much to you. donnffd:You want to win because you are fighting against your conscience. You may eventually win the fight. But it wont make you right. |
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Nice question op. What exactly has atheism done for humanity. Dont be suprised none of them can answer, cos there are no answers. frank317:Some people find meaning and value with God. If atheism is simply disbelief in gods, then what are they fighting for? That we should disbelief with them? ![]() |
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AnonyNymous:How do you intend to do this, you would have to kill someone like me to try to seperate me from my Creator. Many other people are like me. |
AnonyNymous, what exactly do you believe in? |
Ranchhoddas:hahahahaha , Na so you wan do am I tire oo. You people ehn ![]() |
Weah96:If Jesus were to come from Nigeria, israelites will say the same thing, if he was to fly to earth from heaven, you'll still say the same thing Jesus had to come from somewhere bro. |
Ranchhoddas:Should I provide you with 5 quotes of Hitler against christianity and the dates, while you provide for me just 1 pro-christian quite from Hitler after the dates i will provide? |
Weah96:Should I provide you with 10 quotes from stalin against religion and religious people while you provide me with just one religious quote from any of the leaders of the Amer-indian wars? |
AnonyNymous:You did not give any evidence refuting my claim, you've only tried to redefine what communism stands for albeit in a disgraceful manner. KingEbukasBlog has dealt with those sorta dishonesty smoothly. |
chijiblaze:Maybe you need to read the quotes of those individuals in the op. |
AnonyNymous:My mind is open to evidences that can disprove my claims, not emotional statements that seeks to dilute the truth. You want to explain the contextual meaning of when one says: Religion is a disease and should be eradicated. ok! Go on, i'm listening. |
hopefuLandlord:Ive told you. Religion is not the solution, Jesus is the solution. |
Seun:Seun, do you want me to prove the intolerance of 2016 atheists to you, just say the magic word. Im not trolling you. Ive made my comparisons and backed them with proof, that's not trolling. |
AmenRa1:Okay sir. Mouth=100% Proof with valid statistics=0% You try. |
Weah96:But why now? ![]() I want to know where the indians were killed because of their disbelief in God or because americans wanted their lands. You dont always have to bring up anything just to meet up with the madness of atheism. I always included non religious, non atheistic deaths in my proof. Im not a bias person. Its like calling nigerian-cameroon struggle for land a religious war. Dont be desperate when you dont have answers na ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/3861249_img20160608072600edit_png0d6c36e885a2749ff7ee439996b28aaf |
DeSepiero:I started by making claims and giving proof, have you seen anyone refute my evidence except strawman and ad hominems. |
Ranchhoddas:You wish they were dishonest. I give proofs supporting my claim, else it would have been easy to refute them. No one can dispute the evidences in my posts simply because they are the truth. |
DeSepiero:I started by making claims and giving proof, have you seen anyone refute my evidence except strawman and ad hominems. |
hopefuLandlord:Brain na!!!! You see, i choose my words carefully, i ddnt say we should stick to religion, i havent made such statement. This thread only exposes atheism. If anything, Jesus is the answer for the world. |
hopefuLandlord:[size=17pt]The only solution ive not proferred here is that A Relationship with God is the answer. And that is the solution. Ordinary theism will lead nowhere.[/size] |
hopefuLandlord:Brain na!!!! You see, i choose my words carefully, i ddnt say we should stick to religion, i havent made such statement. This thread only exposes atheism. If anything, Jesus is the answer for the world. |
hopefuLandlord:Of course, religionis not the solution. God is the solution. Religious people were constantly against Jesus. |
hopefuLandlord:Whats has happened to you today? Its like me referring to a physics textbook asking it to show me what to eat. The book has a target, it does not record every history of all humans. I also cant show you in the bible where a muslim killed someone, but islamic murders are evident in our world. Crying wont stop the Bible from being the best seller ever. |
hopefuLandlord:[size=15pt]If boko haram continues to kill for the next 20 years at theist rate, they still wont meet the record of madness frim just one atheist. Mao ze dong.[/size] |
FearGodAndLive:Those creativity, aspirations, ideas and dreams have been far better and are still far better than that of atheism. There are proofs of discoveries, inventions and innovations of these christians whose minds were influenced by our Lord Jesus. Your cries and pain wont erase that fact. |
hopefuLandlord:The Bible records only the history of israelites and few other clans to pass a message. It is not an hostory textbook. We can turn to our history text books to find out about atheists murderers in history. |
FearGodAndLive:Wow, and you're so sure I did just that. Maybe you should type atheist killings on google and counter my facts.Its evident you cant defend the evils committed in the name of atheism. Just watch and sulk if you cant. |
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