₦airaland Forum

Henryfocoyo:
what tf are you saying, do you buy bag of rice every month, how much is a carton of chicken and indomie or even egg.
Do you think that everybody gets sick all the time, some people can stay 2 years without a sick of malaria so stop saying what you don't know, don't use your own lifestyle to judge people's own, everyone lives a different life okay.
The only thing consuming more money is fuel, if you have a German car and you always go out then if you're talking about 500k not being enough I won't argue with you but don't tell me is food because when you buy what you need in your house you don't spend much again, I go Market myself so I know how much they sell everything.
Like I told you everyone lives are not the same different life different cause of living it

The attached screenshots below should answer some of your questions.

smasher1:
I don't complain and I do have money management skills but the most important thing is to have more money and save more money.

This is not practicable in an economy with inflation rate of over 30% per year. In less than three years the value of your savings will reduced by more than half.
Saving in Naira would actually lose you money in value terms. The best thing to do in such an economy is to invest or store your assets other instruments , ie foreign currency, commodities, real estate or gold. Avoid stocks, particularly Nigerian stocks, they suffered the same fate of the naira because they are tied to the naira.

Henryfocoyo:
no dey answer all those people abg, always talking down on the currency
How many people are even seeing 100k a month in Nigeria.
Life is all about the class you place yourself, I can live a comfortable life right now and eat whatever I like for 2 months with 500k including my 3 three sisters, I don't go out like that so I don't drive all the time, why some people can't even manage 4m for a month for their up keep, life is different and that is how the cost of running individual lives are different, so don't judge others based on your extra spending lifestyle.
Is not enough for you doesn't mean is not gonna be enough for another person
Peace ✌️

E be like say APC don't inflict poverty mentality on Nigerians, so much so most people don't even understand what standard living means anymore. A family of 4 adults living on N500k for 2 months cannot live comfortably and eat anything they like. With that family income you would probably be living in a room and parlour in poor suburban neighbourhood, eating poor quality food that lacks protein on a diet of 101, flying danfo for transportation to work or business (that's assuming no school fees is involved).
A single egg is now now 300, a loaf of sliced bread is N1500. So how much will breakfast of eggs and bread with tea cost for a family of 4 adults? What's about a meal of beans and dodo, mind you derica of beans is N2500. A small bunch of plantain is N1500. We have not even considered cost of other ingredients like oil, pepper, etc., and gas to cook the beans. Rice and meat/chicken nko? The cost is the same. The N250,000 per month would barely be enough to feed well alone, not to talk of other expenses. I am sure if you guys should contact malaria or typhoid, na agbo or prayers you go use take cure am, because hospital bill for ordinary malaria and typhoid pass N10k per person. Original augmentine capsules now don reach N15k. If dem admit any of una for hospital for one night, just hold 50k.
Live a comfortable life and eat whatever you like indeed.

Sharpsharp00123:
let me ask u a question

Can everyone live in those areas u mentioned?

That's why I asked you to look at the title of the thread before commenting. No one is saying many Nigerians are not living on minimum wage. The issue is at which income level one can be considered rich.

Sharpsharp00123:
so u pay house rent every month?
U pay school fees every month?

We know your type n I can bet u ain't even earning up to that in reality but all of Una want to form billionaire's online

We have family man earning 300k n they are good to go

Check the title of this thread to get an understanding of the subject matter. You are not considered a rich person or middle class by international classification of those terms if you are earning less than 500k in Naira.
When we consider you rich you are assumed to own and drive a car at least, live in low or medium density neighbourhood like Ajah, lekki, surulere, Ikeja or at least Festac. Now how much do you think a decent 3 bedroom apartment with running water, good roads and electricity in Lekki, Ajah or Ikeja cost? Your 500k would barely pay for 1month. How much will you use to fill your tank? How much do you think a decent school in those areas cost?

SoftSport:
Clout chaser!

It's quite misleading to claim that someone earning a salary between 300k and 500k is poor.

Such statements seem designed to sensationalize issues and undermine the government's efforts.

While we acknowledge the economic challenges, a salary in that range can indeed provide a decent standard of living in Lagos or elsewhere in Nigeria.

It's essential to recognize the nuances of financial stability rather than reduce it to simplistic notions of wealth and poverty.

It's not misleading. That's the reality of the Nigerian economy today. A family earning less than N500k (which is less than $300) per month is considered poor by today's economic matrix.
Except you have no children or other defendants, live in a single bedroom apartment in a poor neighbourhood, eat very poor quality food, no vehicle or generator, etc., you quality of life would be quite low.
When you consider the average cost of feeding an average family of 5, paying house rent for 2 bedroom flat in a fairly good neighbourhood, paying school fees for 2 or 3 children quarterly, paying for band A electricity or running a generator a few hours a day, maintaining just one vehicle, transporting to and fro from work or business, you will realise that 500k per month would not just be ebough.

flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time

Have you never heard of pulling down the ladder you used in climbing to the top in order to prevent others from using the same ladder?

Afrowits:
Dangote just want to monopolize the downstream of the Petroleum sector, this is not good for the Nigeria petroleum downstream sector. I also see this as very greedy too.

Monopolise a product no one else is producing? Shebi the government say Port Harcourt refinery go begin operating this year, abi the billions spent on rehabilitation don waste?

So it is good for Nigeria to continue to spend billions of dollars importing refined petroleum products? Shebi una talk say dollar go come down after we start producing them locally? E be like say una dey enjoy am as dollar done pass N1700.

Ten06:
World Bank policies are not working for Nigeria. Below are my points.

1. Austerity Measures: The World Bank often prescribes austerity measures and structural adjustment programs (SAPs) for countries like Nigeria, which include cutting public spending, reducing subsidies, and focusing on debt repayment. In Nigeria, these measures have sometimes led to reduced investment in critical sectors like education, healthcare, and infrastructure, contributing to poverty and unemployment, while the wealthy and political elites remain less affected.
2. Debt Dependence: Nigeria has taken loans from the World Bank and other international institutions, leading to rising debt levels. Critics argue that, instead of reducing dependency on external loans, Nigeria becomes trapped in a cycle of debt servicing, with much of its revenue going to repay loans rather than being invested in development projects. This limits long-term growth.
3. Focus on Deregulation and Privatization: The World Bank has encouraged Nigeria to adopt free-market policies such as privatization and deregulation. While these are aimed at boosting efficiency, in Nigeria, they have often led to the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few and increased inequality. For example, privatization of public utilities has sometimes resulted in poor services and higher prices for ordinary citizens, deepening economic disparities.
4. Neglect of Local Realities: World Bank policies are often critiqued for being one-size-fits-all, designed for global application rather than tailored to specific local contexts. In Nigeria, this has meant that economic policies designed to stimulate growth often fail to account for the country’s unique political, cultural, and social challenges, resulting in ineffective or even damaging outcomes.
5. Fuel Subsidy Removal: One of the World Bank’s recommendations has been the removal of fuel subsidies, which has been highly controversial in Nigeria. While the removal is aimed at reducing government expenditure and improving fiscal sustainability, the immediate result has been a spike in fuel prices, leading to inflation and increased hardship for many Nigerians, particularly the poor.
6. Weak Industrial Development: World Bank policies tend to favor market liberalization, which opens up Nigeria to competition from foreign goods. However, without sufficient support for local industries to compete, Nigeria’s domestic manufacturing sector has struggled to grow, leading to an over-reliance on imports and further weakening the economy.

While some argue that World Bank policies provide necessary financial support and guidance, critics contend that the implementation of these policies without adequate attention to Nigeria’s specific economic and social conditions has, at times, hampered sustainable development and contributed to economic challenges.

Read the book below to understand the goal of US and its financial institutions.

trutharena:
The reforms are working, but the effect is being felt more by the low and middle class.

Is there still a middle class in Nigeria?
What will you estimate the average income of what can be universally termed middle class family in Nigeria would be today?

ivolt:
It is actually a non-profit corporation.
Yes, it makes money but its purpose is not to make profit.

Many private schools are run same way, take Havard which has billions
of dollars in endowment. Did you know it is a non-profit corporation?

Another schematics to avoid paying taxes and submitting audited accounts.
What do you call the millions of schools fees and other expenses being paid by each student? Donations, offerings or grants?

Namaster:
This is just SEMANTICS to deceive ignorant people.

The reward for business/entrepreneurship is PROFIT. He may NOT be drawing wages but Covenant University is still a business that makes CRAZY profit.

The virtue-signalling is UNNECESSARY. Adds NOTHING to the conversation.

It's a WORLD-CLASS institution and the students pay DEARLY for it.

It's not a CHARITY.

It's not just schematics, it's deceit to deceive the gullible and ignorant. Why should he earn wages from the university? Is he a staff or lecturer in the university. A Councillor is not a staff of a university. He is the major shareholder (if not the only shareholder) of the university, so what he shares is profit or dividend.

AmazonTopaz:
Hamas made a two state solution difficult to establish when they attacked on October 7th. Only a fool will think a two state solution would happen after Palestinians showed themselves that they will rather kill Jews than embrace statehood. If anyone made that difficult to establish it was Hamas and Palestinians have always rejected a two-state solution they themselves are making it difficult to establish.

How many times has this map been disproved as false?

Again this matter would have been solved had Palestinians decided not to be unfortunate in 1948.

Your point still fails to prove genocide.

It was not Hamas that made the two state solution difficult, it was hardliners on both sides. In fact Hamas took advantage of the hardliners to get power from more moderate PLO, just like Benjamin Nathanyahu (a hardliners on the Israeli side) took advantage of the hardliners to gain power.
Hamas and Likud Party are two sides of the same coin - hardliners not ready to concede any concession to the other.
Yitzhak Rabin and Yassar Afafat were more moderate and were negotiating a permanent peaceful solution to the conflict under Bill Clinton's administration. They signed the Oslo 1 and 2 accords,(for which both were awarded the Nobel Peace Price). But hardliners in both countries rejected the Oslo accords. Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated and Yassar Afafat died (suspected assassination), since then the chance of any peaceful solution died.

bemeruca:
You are not making sense. You don't understand how Bible work.

Numbers 31:17-18 can never make sense to me.
“17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.”

“18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

So also Hosea 13:16
16 The people of Samaria are guilty as charged because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed in war, their children will be smashed to death, and their pregnant women will be ripped open.

How many percent of Saudis are Christians? What are you even arguing? Christianity is growing in Israel as well as Islam. Christianity in every Arab country is shrinking. Aside from arabia, every other country that is Islam was conquered by the squad

Christianity is growing at 2% in Israel the land of Christ? Is that not a paradox?
Arabia the land of Mohammed is 98% Muslim as it should be.

bemeruca:
Christians has nothing to do with it. Christianity is not a violent religion so is Judaism , saying the Abrahimic religion are violent is you attacking Christianity and Judaism since they are not.

Saying they hate Christians is you trying to turn Christians against them. On a broader scale you know what you are saying is not true.

Understatement of the millennium. The old testament is replete with violence. From Genesis to Malachi, it one violence to another including God ordained genocide.

Only 2% of Israelis are Christians and there is an uneasy relationship between Christians and Jews. A lawmaker even proposed a bill banning Christians
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/with-tensions-high-anti-christian-protesters-rally-outside-jerusalem-event/amp/
https://m.jpost.com/christianworld/article-761906

raumdeuter:
Can you share how Israelis caught by Hamas are treated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChPpImsBx0?si=W4gImo0fxNxTbST-
This is from BBC

raumdeuter:
Yet one party called Hamas does not recognize Israel right to live and you support them

Israel does not recognize Palestinians right to live in their homeland and you support them

bemeruca:
You just showed us all your virtue signals. What you said made no sense and Christianity has nothing to do with it.

I doubt you know the genesis of this issue because you talked about it then when on an attack on Christians.

Look at what bokoharam is doing, what they believe.

Don't post from Aljazeera lol

You always jump to hit quote without bothering to read and comprehend what was written. Where did you see the attack on Christianity or Boko Haram?

Where should I post from? CNN, BBC, Foxnews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh83jIwZjyY?si=6iqwSEtEOF9zSEit

raumdeuter:
Why cant Hamas go out of Gaza without permission of Israel. They have a border with Egypt. Is Israel controlling the Egypt/Gaza border?

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them

It seems you have no idea on the genesis of the conflict and just jump into Israel defence blindly, either due to religious reasons (which I don't really understand as the Israelis hate Christians and blacks as much as the Arabs), or due to listening to too much Jewish controlled media.
I am first a humanist, I hate to see sufferings in this world. I can never support killings, murder and exploitation under whatever guise. Secondly I am an atheist, I find the Abrahamaic religions to violent and exploitative, it is skewed again the week and powerless of the society - the poor, women and children. And lastly I am a liberal, I believe in the principle of live and let live.

Watch this video to learn about the situation in Gaza before this current round of conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNV2oArb7K8?si=yUY8yFplvT6jUTII

raumdeuter:
I am asking what exactly did Israel do to make Hamas kill thousands and kidnap hundreds

I hope you are not tone deaf, as the post above summarise the whole thing.
Isreal and Palestinians have been in a state of war for decades. Conflicts had broken out on a regular bases almost on a yearly basis since the occupation of large swaths of West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians have been under occupation by isreal who give then no rights whatsoever. They cannot vote, they cannot hold passports, they cannot leave the enclaves provided for them by Israel, nothing can come in and out of West Bank and Gaza without the permission of the Israelis. In fact these places are regarded as the largest open air prisons in the world.
Obviously, you would expect violent reaction from the Palestinians.
One of the paradoxes in the world is that the same people supporting Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestinians homes, hospitals and schools will be the same people that would criticise the Nigerian government if they carry out the same policy in Aba, Umuahia or Enugu, should the government start going after IPOB or Unknown gun men for killing Nigerian soldiers and policemen by bombing homes and hospitals.

raumdeuter:
How did Israel trigger Hamas to come and kill 1400 Israelis on October 7

October 7 was not an isolated incident. Isreal and Palestinians have been kidnapping each other for decades. It has always been tit for tat. It was just that hamas took up up a notch by kidnapping hundreds of Israelis instead of the usual 1 or 2. There are thousands of Palestinians in Israeli jails, the Palestinians usually use the captured Israelis as bargaining chips in exchange for their own prisoners.
What do you think was the aim of Hamas for invading isreal and holding hundreds of hostages? I hope you don't think their aim was to capture Israeli lands.

As I said I am sure MOSSAD allowed the invasion take place. The invasion involved over a year of planning, it was not spontaneous.

IMAliyu2:
A group having a high birthrate doesn't mean a genocide isn't being carried out against them. That's not the criteria used to determine that, its about the intent and actions of the acused party, not their success at it.

The accusation of genocide are levied on these groups.
"Specifically, Israel has committed three acts of genocide with the requisite intent: causing seriously serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, and imposing measures intended to prevent birth within the group,”

I would also add, the systematic discrimination, prosecution, detention and displacement of Palestinians especially in the west bank doesn't help Isreal's case.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_detentions_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war[/url]
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/7/19/how-israeli-settlements-are-taking-over-the-west-bank-as-gaza-war-rages

Aswell as the 1 to 1 textbook dehumanization and eliminationist rhetoric employed by Israeli officials. Which have been documented here.

https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-database-with-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-continuously-updated/

Exactly.
I believe what Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank can be regarded as low grade or covert genocide. Of course you don't expect them to indiscriminately start bombing the Palestinians without any excuse or just ship them to gas chambers like the Nazis did in WW2. They need to start a war in order to have justification for bombing Gaza and West Bank, thereby driving the Palestinians away from the land.
Israel often look for triggers to prod the Palestinians into violent reactions in order to look for excuses to start bombing apartment buildings, schools and hospitals. This Israel does by expanding settlements into occupied territories or arresting Palestinians and locking them in Israeli jails.
There is no way Benjamin Nathanyahu will tell the world that he was not aware of the October 7 invasion of Israel by Hamas commandos. MOSSAD that had infiltrated the Iranian security agencies and Hezbollah could not infiltrate the less òrganised Hamas? Tell thar to the marines. Isreal just needed a justification to once and for all drive the Palestinians out of West Bank and Gaza.

Trippledots:
Is it still serving you? What's the experience been like?

Yes it's still serving me well. I actually use it to run 4 shops attached together. Two shops house a betting shop with 6 computers, 12 monitors, 2 TVs and 2 ceiling fans. My office with I standing fan and a mini desktop computer and monitor.
The whole adugbo (area) also charge their phones, powerbanks, etc in the shops in times of prolong black outs.
I hardly use my generator except if nepa takes light for 2 days straight and the sun refuses to come out.

Yungmil:
Bro how much did it cost u to set up ur solar
Thinking of doing it for a betting shop

N2 million then (that was October last year). Now you will require between N3 - N3.5 million to install the same configuration - 4kva and 12 nos. 15kw panels .

basilico:
Tina Peters had released a report of the audit. She is going for 9 years fir acting to stop fraud

https://tinapeters.us/

* The absence of secure hash algorithm (.sha) files for each digital ballot image makes the authenticity of each digital ballot image, and the ballotlevel record for those ballots, impossible to verify.

** The true total vote count in Mesa County, Colorado cannot be accurately calculated for the 2020 General Election or the 2021 Grand Junction Municipal Election from records in the databases of the county’s voting system

Putins Russia is better than America. There you know Putin will get 99% of the vote unlike Kamala's America where you go for 9 years for exposing 2020 electoral fraud


cc budaatum

Secure Hash Algorithm kwa? You guys just throw around terms you have no clue about. Secure Hash Algorithm is the cryptographic function used in blockchain technology to secure the integrity of the blockchain. Bitcoin uses SHA-256 as its cryptographic function. Using blockchain technology for recording votes will be a very cumbersome affair.

bemeruca:
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.
ba·by (noun)
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born:

Do you have to play semantics?

A fetus is not regarded as a person

A baby needs to be born to qualify as a baby.

I don't still understand what you are arguing about.

bemeruca:
I did not see the word abortion

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/fort-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-killing-unborn-baby-after-beating-pregnant-woman-with-baseball-bat/

the mother of the child does not have the power to decide when something is homicide or not.

On Friday, the Broward Sheriff's Office stated that homicide detectives had arrested 34-year-old Emmanuel Prevaly on the charge of killing an unborn child by injury to the mother.

I honestly don't understand what you guys are still arguing about. This is first and foremost a report by a reporter on the case. It is not a charge sheet detailing the crimes the criminal is being charged with. Then secondly, the report emphasised Killing of an unborn child . It never used the word murder or homicide. It never used the word baby. An unborn child was killed.

raumdeuter:
Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree

You are using the correct term now, murder of a fetus and not murder of a baby.

bemeruca:
So does an unborn child have the right to life? if it is Double Homicide then the question has been answered. lawful or not.

It's the mother that gives it the Homicide status, without the mother it is simply termed abortion. If a person kills a baby without killing the mother it could never be termed single Homicide or murder.

bemeruca:
I hear you... How do you unlawfully kill a Lice or a Zygote?
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

not Zygote to Fetus or lice or a Tick.

A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote?

It is not a baby until it is born. That's why we start counting its existence on this earth aka its birthday on the day it left its mother's womb, where prematurely or on full term or even extra term. That's why a pregnant woman says I am expecting a baby or I am going to have a baby.
No way a fetus can be termed a baby.

IjeBos:
Cut the Bullshit. Your argument was predicated on religion from the jump. It's an easy argument to recognize.
Is disingenuous not to be honest on the basis of your argument. You're being too clever by half.
It wasn't a surprise that one of your first "philosophical" arguments mentioned religion that Budaatum called out.
I think it's shady and manipulative the way you went about this whole thing.

Exactly. Their argument against abortions is purely religious, but the cloaked it in "philosophical" arguments.
This nebulous human intrinsic value is one of such arguments.
For example, when chairman Mao Zedong came to power in 1949, he encouraged large families and outlawed abortion and the use of contraception, urging women to produce offspring who would boost the workforce and the ranks of the People's Liberation Army. This policy caused the Chinese population to double from 500million to 1 billion in 30 years. When Deng Xiaoping took over the reins in 1978, he realises that to achieve economic growth, he had to control the population, and therefore restrict the population to 1.2 billion within the next 20 years. He hereby instituted the 1 child policy. This resulted hundreds of millions of abortions and forced sterilisation of both men and women. China achieved all its goals but has now created a new problem - aging population with no young ones to take over. They have reversed the one child policy once more. Without the one child policy, China's population would be closer to 2 billion by now. Intrinsic Human Values indeed.

bemeruca:
Iran is not as capable. Israel can easily cripple them. Their navy and other military assets with key infrastructure can be taken out. The Mossad knows where everything are... It's just the time to strike they are waiting for. See how they were patient with hezbollah and still entrenched in the terrorists organization. Once they get the go ahead, key stuff will start to explode

MOSSAD knows everything and entrenched in Hezbollah and other terrorist organisations, October 7 happened with MOSSAD not having a clue. Can you explain the irony?