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ike007:
Oga.. Conservative party over in the UK are predominantly Christians. This is not what the UK people want to hear. She is talking like a liberal when she is the head of the Tories or conservative party.

Most British including members of the Conservative party are "cultural" Christians and not practicing Christians. So she is part of the majority.

Truths9ja:
Hmm 🤔 meanwhile, "African governments should ban Kemi Badenoch from coming to Africa" ~ Seun Kuti says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3SgDsCDQw

Shame that the son of the great Fela "Anikulapo" Kuti is making such statement. Fela said the very same thing Kemi Badenoch is saying now. Whether about religion or about Nigeria. The only difference is Kemi is a British politician and needs to appeal to the British electorate.

Solseal007:
The 2 greatest world leaders in the world are staunch believers of God!

Abeg, State the 2 greatest world leaders that are believers of God.

calm down Kemi, stick to British politics, leave Nigeria out if it and keep your belief in your heart.

Kemi is not the one disturbing Nigerians, in fact its Nigeria government officials that had been disturbing her since she became Tory leader. It was Abike Dabiri that first alleged that she tried to reach out to Kemi but was ignored. Then other Nigerian politicians started calling out Kemi. Kemi then responded that she does not want to identify with Nigerian officials or Nigetia itself.

A great man once said Religion is in the heart not in the knees.

That should have even sufficed if Nigerian religiosity is in their hearts, its everywhere else but their hearts. Its in the streets, in their communities, its even in public functions despite operating a secular constitution. Meanwhile their hearts is corrupt and wicked.

Villa12:
she's a beautiful woman with lovely kids

Imagine she is not vain or ostentatious like her Nigerian God believing counterparts. Imagine a Nigerian woman in such position in Nigeria, her jewellery and assessories would be loud - gold earrings, bracelets and necklaces. She go display iPhone 16 Pro max for hand. Even her children will be well assessorised.

She seems to have completely acculturised to the British way of life. Similarly, other women that have attained similar positions were not religious nor displayed wealth. Ie Theresa May, liz Truss and even Margaret Thatcher.

illicit:
Remilekun Fani Kayode was never shot in any coup...

My error. I admit my error. I thought he was among those brutally murdered on January 15 1966 coup.
Festus Okotie-eboh was murdered that day though.

illicit:
LoL

Where is the "Adedapo"

Remilekun Fani Kayode was not shot in any coup...

This is from FFK's page
https://femifanikayode.org/january-15th-1966-a-night-of-blood-and-slaughter/

Eboofa:
Danjuma made the right call this time...........in 1966 he made the wrong call by allowing northerners to muder ironsi and kill igbos who knew nothing about ab Mi5 sponsored ifeajuna coup!

I don't believe he made the wrong call in the murder of Ironsi. I am honestly not aware he was involved in the killing of innocent igbo civilians. If you have proof or links please show us.

Now T Y Danjuma was a military officer. Many of his colleagues and close friends were murdered in cold blood without any warning. Naturally you would expect him to be angry and seek revenge on the perpetrators. General Ironsi did not do the appropriate thing by swiftly trying the murderers and executing them. He was more interested in protecting the murderers and pursuing political agenda. So you cannot blame Danjuma for hating General Ironsi with a passion.

illicit:
Remi Fani Kayode was ffks dad

And he didn't die in a coup...

FFK dad's full name is Chief Victor Babaremilekun Adetokunboh Fani-Kayode . He was taken away by the coupist right in front of FFK when he was 6, and his mother. He was brutally shot. FFK has talked about that traumatic experience in many interviews.
You can Google that name for more details.
That you guys are not appalled by the brutal murder of innocent people by blood thirsty coupist, but only obsessed with TY Danjuma remains a mystery to me.

DeepSight:
Success, particularly political success is not necessarily a function of any kind of sanity otherwise you must call Trump a sane person.

You know I am not a fan of Trump, but I must admit or rather surrender that he is a genius. He just like powerful rulers of the past understand power and how to acquire it. He seems more sane than you and I. He is able go against all established norms and succeed against all odds.

DeepSight:
But apples for apples, it is fair to say that all this is very recent against almost two millenia of religious domination of British history and leadership.

I don't think religion had actually played any ŕole in British politics since the adoption of constitutional monarchy as a form of government. Religion plays a part in the monarchy but not in the Parliament.

illicit:
Fajuyi was a fine officer...

Brigadier Zakariya Maimalari was a finer officer.

illicit:
Your hands are bloody sir...

Fajuyi is wailing

Which former Nigerian senior military officer's hands is not bloody?

Brigadier Zakariya Maimalari is wailing.
Saudana Ahmadu Bello is wailing.
Alhaji Tafa Balewa is wailing.
Victor Adedapo Kayode (FFK's father) is wailing.
Festus Okotie-eboh is wailing.

kingthreat:
Thank God for America. One requirement as a leader is to believe in God.
Believe in God gives you morals and direction.

False premise. Believe in God had never given anyone morals or direction, else Nigeria and Afghanistan would have been the most moral and directed countries of the world, but instead they are the most immoral and directionless.

Religion plays no part in British politics unlike Nigeria that keeps bickering Muslim Christian tickets. The last leader of the Conservative party was Hundu. The current mayor of London is Muslim.

Bandirao:
this girl needs a therapy her brain is functioning abnormally.

And you that his brain is functioning, are you more successful or prosperous than her?

ZaRuleOfLaw:
A fool says in his heart, "There's no God"...

How has the wise that says "There is a God" helped Africa?

Then, Murtala was killed. I think it is public knowledge that Obasanjo fled on the day Murtala Muhammed was killed. He remained in hiding until the coup was aborted and he reached out, first, to M.D Yusuf (Inspector-General of Police), who then called him and he came out of hiding, and joined us in Dodan Barracks. We discussed the funeral of Muhammed and made arrangement as to who would accompany his remains to Kano, so on and so forth.

At the end of the meeting, Obasanjo asked M.D Yusuf and I to stay with him in the chambers (Dodan Barracks). After everybody had left, Obasanjo told M.D Yusuf and I that what had happened had destroyed his faith in the loyalty of the Nigerian Army. That he had decided that after the funeral, he would retire, leave the Army and go home. But before that he would name me as the successor to Murtala. I told him that, that amounted to desertion and that he could not run away. He was number 2, number 1 had been killed in battle; he as number 2 would take over.

He said no, no, no; that he didn’t think he should stay; that he wanted to go. We argued that. In the end, Yusuf said, “look, let’s all sleep over this matter; tomorrow we will decide.” I said, “look, there’s no question of sleeping over it; the point now is we should be looking for who is going to take Obasanjo’s seat as number 2 because there is no way we are going to allow him to chicken out and leave at this time; we must all stay and face the future together.” So, we left and I went home. By this time, we had called all the members of the Supreme Military Council to Lagos.

The following day, he (Obasanjo) started to talk in the same vein and I cut in. I said that Obasanjo could not leave; he had to stay and be the Head of State and we should be looking for the number 2 man. I had, over night, considered the consequences of what had happened and came to the conclusion that if we were not careful; we would end up with a religious conflict on our hands. Already, that evening – the evening that it became public knowledge that Murtala had been killed – Dimka had made a broadcast in which he said, “good tidings” among other things. He had imposed a curfew – from dawn to dusk (laugh) and said all sorts of things using the expression, “good tiding.”

Abubakar Gumi, in the North, said that the coup that killed Murtala was a Christian coup because of the utterances of the coup leader, who said, “good tidings” because it is an expression of Christians. Already, there was tension in the North. The governor of Kaduna State, an air force officer, Usman, had to contain him: that it had nothing to do with Christians, that it was a purely military affair.

I knew that if we were not careful, as time went on, we should be consumed by religious strife in the country. I decided that the new Chief of Staff must come from the North preferably, a Hausa/Fulani man. From my knowledge, I had two candidates – (Muhammadu) Buhari, who was really my number one candidate for that post and the late Shehu Yar’Adua. Shehu was not in the country; he was abroad as Minister of Transport. You would remember we had inherited a cement armada in the Lagos and Port Harcourt (ports) and his (Shehu’s) first assignment was to decongest the Lagos port and get rid of all the vessels that were clogging Nigerian waters, and attracting huge demurrages from our government. He (Shehu) was abroad attending to that problem when Dimka struck.

So, they were the two candidates. Buhari, at that time, and even today, is one of the most upright Army officers that the Nigerian Army has produced – very clean, a very strict officer. Unfortunately for him, he served under me for a short time in Port Harcourt and I observed that he was a very inflexible person. I reasoned that Buhari, any day, could be a first class Chief of Army Staff. Why waste him in a political post? Why shorten his career because if he became Chief of Staff, he would have to leave at the end of the tenure. Why waste him there?

Besides, I observed that he was too rigid; he was too inflexible to hold a political post. If you are in politics, you must be flexible; you must compromise from time to time. In politics, they call it pragmatism. But in the military, if you are pragmatic, it is regarded as a weakness. I said no, not Buhari. Shehu, I didn’t know him well except that I knew that, of all the officers of his rank, he was the most politicised. So, sending a politicised Army Officer to a political post, I thought, was a good thing. That was how I named Shehu the next Chief of Staff.

When we came to the Supreme Military Council and Obasanjo started singing the same tune that he had sung to me and M.D Yusuf the previous night, I said no, that was not the issue; he was the most senior person and he had to stay there. He had to stay in office. He made some feeble resistance but I think he had slept over our discussion and concluded that if we insisted, he would stay.

There were a few voices of dissent. The first came from the Chief of Air Staff, Isa Doko, who said that the problem we were facing was an Army problem and that the Army boys had confidence in me. That we had just crushed an attempted coup, and we should not put somebody there that the Army didn’t have confidence in. A few other officers supported him but I overruled them. And so, I imposed Obasanjo on my colleagues in the Supreme Military Council.

---General TY Danjuma in an interview with THE GUARDIAN, February 17, 2008.

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Jayhome24:
These people are funny I can see he mentioned coming to church 5 days a week coming to church pls may I ask what are Nigrians looking for atendin church Monday to Sunday?

Pastor Adeboye that is your headache coming to church on daily basis is not biblical its an insult to the body of christ, it encourages failure, encourage laziness, enrage lack of direction, it is a systematic religion extortion and total lack of economic planning stop it, save the money to solve other church problems.

What Nigerians are looking for attending church Mondays to Fridays? Prosperity of course. They are praying to God for money, wealth and good things of life.

Originalsly:
If he decided to give free bus service .... why should we know about cost? If I decide to give out free breakfast ... should I be telling about the costs? He is using this to rope in more money from not only church members but from a wider section of the population. Free bus service is a promo. It's a pity he didn't give the cost of the used school buses. Who used the service?

Exactly. This cannot be regarded as a community service but a promo to reel in more sheep.

When Christianity was Christianity and not a scam as it is presently. Churches provided community services without boasting about it. Yours truly attended both Catholic primary and secondary school without paying a kobo, and I remain eternally grateful to the Catholic Church. These new generation Christianity only know how to receive and take from society without giving anything substantial back. Its greed, greed and more greed.

dkidd:
Go and learn how to read and write. Lowlife idol worshipper

Idol worshippers are far better than so called Christians. They are more tolerant, respectful and honest that all these crooks called pentecostal Christians.

Alliswell248:
Is your money there?
Why crying over the matter?

Noisemaker

Because is pitying mugus for being scammed, just like he pity victim of Yahoo boys.

ShinjaWWest:
If Ur papa money no dey involve e no suppose concern uu

Exactly. Ask am how much of the money come from his own pocket?
RCCG Free Buses Gulped N63m Fuel In Seven Weeks but RCCG members tithes and offerings received N100m each day of the open heavens programme.

easytig:
A paint of Groundnut is not cheap likewise the oil sef

Exactly! Without a cost comparison analysis between buying ready-made oil and producing it from scratch, the whole video is meaningless.

DisLifeSha:
Every year revival and they still remain where they are

It would have been good if after each revival they remain where they are. The real truth is that after each revival, they keep getting worse. The more revival, pilgrimage, fasting and prayer, deliverance, we perform, the poorer, more corrupt, wicked, greedy, heartless, insecure we become. Starting from the late 70s and early 80s when all this pentecostal rubbish started, the country has gone from bad to worse.

Gbogbowa:
Religion is Religion,china and India worship idol more than any nation yet they are making progress,our major problem are our political leaders.the Jew believe so much and practice Judaism everywhere with synagogue yet they prosper

Once again false narrative. China does does see itself as a religious nation. Religion has no place in government or government affairs. In fact China considers itself an atheist or non religious nation.
China got to where it is today by careful and meticulous planning, not by fasting and prayers.

India on the other hand considers itself a Hindu nation with significant Muslim population. This is why they suffer some of the negative consequences of religion like we do today.

Mindlog:
Religion is "big business".

Religion is not business, because business connotes it provides some value to society. Religion is exploitation and enslavement of the poor and helpless masses of a society for the benefit of a few privileged class.

AllenSpencer:
The man does not know that China, Taiwan, USA and Japan prayed to God to reach that stage.

I doubt if the man has the Holy Spirit.

False!
China abandoned God through Chairman Mao to be able to get to that stage.
Japan also abandoned the concept of a personal God that requires worship and praise all the time in order to grant unmerited wealth and prosperity to get to that stage.
The US used God as a weapon to decimate the aboriginal tribes of the US and also used God as a weapon to enslave and exploit West Africans in order to get to that stage

ednut1:
The account was a money laundering account. End of story . The man died and they removed it backend. This matter go long

You are making wild allegations because you not following the case. The account was a sort of saving account where the man allegedly put money in but never withdraws. He told his sister that all his pension and gratuity was paid into that account.

blueAgent:
Na lie.

Buildings, Utilities and whatever are designed by engineers and built by artisans.

You seem to conflate artisans with engineers. Artisans are the basic or rudimentary semi - skilled worker that can only handle basic tasks. For example, an electrician (artisan) can wire a small bungalow, but it would be stupid and suicidal to task an electrician to wire a high rise building or a hospital. You would need an electrical engineer for more complex wiring. Same with plumbing or any other building services.

ivandragon:
That is a crude way of putting it, but Oshiomole is right. To industrialise, Nigeria needs more technical work force.

However, the socio-economic conditions and value system in nigeria does not give proper dignity and reward to such jobs, except on few occasions.

Oshiomole was not talking about technical work force, he was talking about artisans. Ie bricklayers, painters, iron benders, vulcanisers, tailors and when labourers.
Industrialisation requires mainly skilled manpower, like engineers and technicians.

ivandragon:
You obviously have very poor understanding and knowledge about how society works or is stratified.

I will let you ride on the coattails of a comment I made earlier to a similar statement made...

Three things are evident from your question.

1. You obviously don't understand metonymy/synecdoche, so I can excuse your inability to comprehend even though the my reference to 'technical' work force should have given you an idea that the matter relates to blue collar jobs in general which leads me to the next point.

2. You seem not to know that blue collar jobs are the backbone of industrialisation. No matter how many tertiary degrees you have, no matter how many innovations you can come up with, you need people who can put in sweat and blood to do the 'dirty' jobs. People with technical know-how and special skill sets. Those people whom you take for granted which brings me to my third point.

3. You come across as one of those who raise thier noses against honest Labour. You see a bricklayer or mechanic and see the person as sub-human. You think they contribute nothing to the economy.

The redded quote is correct but only partially. The backbone of industrialisation particularly in the 21st century is first and foremost Science and Technology, followed by Energy. Without cheap and available source of energy industrialisation cannot get off the ground. Then followed by a machine tool industry. You need machines that would make the tools and machines for making products.
Then you need highly skilled engineers to design and build infrastructures for the industries. Blue collar jobs are the last piece of the industrialisation puzzle. Some countries don't even bother with blue collar workers as they are the cheapest to produce and their wage is also the cheapest in the whole equation, they simply import blue collar workers from poor countries.

In this era of AI, machine learning and robotics, many of the functions of blue color workers can be undertaken by machines.

Kukutente23:
Snap a pic of yourself mixing cement pls

In the world of AI, automation and control, we're looking for more iron benders and bricklayers

Who do Africa like this?

Imagine what a supposedly educated person is spewing. In this era of blockchain technology, cloud computing and AI, someone is talking about bricklaying and iron bending. It like taking us back to the Stone Age and Iron age

skywalker240:
Yes I also agree with that

Add farmers too

Hunters and fishermen nko?