₦airaland Forum

calyx:
The senate said today that those are the words of the president which could be verified, printed and so is as good as the letter itself. I guess the main thing here is intent.

Law being an *ss?

Mr Lawyer, the Senate is still just playing politics, the president never told the senate or house that he is proceeding on a medical vacation. Please read section 145 again, and again. And he never[b] intended[/b] the interview to inform the national assembly that he is going on medical vacation. (one can be receiving treatment in a hospital without going on a medical vacation). In fact he never used the words "Medical Vacation".

Also who was it that verified that it was the words of the president itself, and was not computer generated or that the president was speaking under the influence of medications.

Beaf:
The constitution is mostly useless anyway. That is the most important thing to take away from all of this, it is in Nigeria's interest to get a better and more representative constitution and not continue stumbling along on one handed down by the military.
Our soldiers (God bless them) are a fighting force who should have zero involvement in writing the countries democratic constitution.

Accepted that the constitution had a lot of flaws, the major problem is not the constitution itself but the operators. The operators are not ready to be guided by the constitution and so manufacture crater-holes where there are only tiny potholes. A constitution cannot specify every single situation and activity a person can perform, you have to rely on the human factor of conscience and general goodness of the human heart to make a constitution work. For God sake England does not have a rigidly written constitution, and they have not fallen into a state of anarchy.

Dede1:
What impeachable offence has Yar adua committed?  The Nigerian constitution that dealt with succession did not declare that the president should be impeached if the President fails to transmit a letter of absence to Senate President and Speaker of the House. The senate has no power to jump start impeachment procedures without culpable of offence committed by the President.

The president has committed so many impeachable offenses that you would need volumes to state them. The principal ones are negligence of duty, failing to receive foreign ambassadors who have been posted to Nigeria, appointment of INEC commissioners so that they can form a quorum, fulfilling our international obligations, chairing of so many committees, like the weekly National security briefings.

He could be impeached for Negligence of duty (gross misconduct), except you are telling me a Governor or a president can just disappear and reappear 6 months later, without any information about his whereabouts and continue from where he left.

calyx:
Its actually very complicated. Now lets assume that Yaradua was actually flown out of the country unconscious and then all the hoopla about BBC interview and signing appropriation bill + other lies/ silence are all orchestrated gimmicks by Yaraduas kitchen cabinets to keep Nigerians in the dark of the real situation and buy time, would you still think its very fair to impeach the president? assuming also that he may actually have taken the opposite course if he was in a state of consciousness.

It we should go by your theory that Yaradua was taking away unconscious, of course he would have had the sympathy of the average Nigerian, but all the hoopla about BBC interview and signing appropriation bill + other lies borders on criminality. If that was the case, the situation would have been handled better by providing a "letter of vacation" (even if it was "Oluwoled" to let Jonathan act as president, instead of taking us through the embarrassing ordeal we had been going through,  at least it would showed that the people at the helm of affairs have some degree of respect for the constitution.

It is amazing that you are a lawyer and you interpret section 145 which reads as thus;

Whenever the president transmits to the President of the senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives a written declaration that he is proceeding on vacation or that he is otherwise unable to discharge the functions of his office, until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary such functions shall be discharged by the Vice-Presidents as Acting President.

to mean a BBC radio interview which reads thus;

“At the moment I am undergoing treatment, and I’m getting better from the treatment. I hope that very soon there will be tremendous progress, which will allow me to get back home, As soon as my doctors discharge me, I will return to Nigeria to resume my duties, I wish, at this stage, to thank all Nigerians for their prayers for my good health, and for their prayers for the nation."

maybe he should have also assented to the supplementary by a radio interview with VOA , and the budget would become law.

calyx:
I disagree with you on impeachment. I dont think Yaradua as much as i hate him as president deserve to be impeached. It could actually be that he was carried off in an unconscious state. Do you really believe that a conscious Yaradua, with all of these issues will keep quiet?

The senate just played a smart one i think. Since you guys said that was Yaradua on BBC, then we can use that info in place of the letter. Anytime (thats if ever) he comes and is fit to resume, then he writes another letter to that effect before he can reclaim his position. I think this sufficiently takes care of the logjam. Its same thing as the president sending the letter though in this case, the NASS went to the internet to print the letter themselves!!!!!!

I also disagree with you on impeachment. I for one do not dislike Yaradua, but be question goes beyond whether you like him or not, he deserved to be impeached because he had abdicated his post for over 3months without officially informing Nigerians. The position of president is not like that of a Monarch that is unquestionable or absolute. A president is an employee, with specific duties and tenure.

The excuse that he was carried out in an unconscious state is an after thought, how come we were not told that soon after he left and was told almost 3 months later. Also did you hear that from his doctors ?. If he was carried out unconscious how come he did not inform the senate after he became conscious and chose only to sign appropriation bill and grant interview to BBC.

Yaradua cannot write another letter, when he did not write any in the first place.

vigasimple:
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Even though I am Lawyer, I always prefer someone with commonsense, all the above has said is common sense as to the proper interpretation of the Law. Most of the confusion is started by Yar A'liar aided and abetted by AGF idonkia.

It is shocking, if in the 21st century we are still unable to do simple thing rightly, and we then yarn our mouth as giant of Africa. This are the occasion one is truely ashamed to be a Nigerian.

Region/tribal/religion or not, the NORTH are the problem of this nation. They were doing this simply to hold on to power they have never managed anything well in this country.

FEC can declare the President unfit ( and should have), and VP sworn in as President. VP is already acting as President according to the law but he was not being obeyed as such.

NASS should simply impeach a President for gross misconduct for not obeying the constitution he swore to defend and who has not make provision for emergency knowing fully well his health situation to hand over to his vP until he gets well.

The courts should have invoked S.145 to say that the President in absence of his letter of vacation/medical has vacated his office. He was qouted to have spoken to the BBC Hausa world service but cannot write to inform NASS of his medical vacation and when he si likely to come back. It is called contempt.

After 3,7 or max 14 days when there is no formal letter from Yar A'dua, it should have been taken to abdicate his position, end of the story. The nation need CIC and security

VOTE OUT PDP 2011 AND VOTE ANY PARTY YOU LIKE. SEND A MESSAGE THAT THE POWER BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE.

I used to have the impression that the North was the problem of Nigeria, but somehow this Yaradua episode has made me have a rethink. I think the problem is more complex than we see. I think it is a combination of historical, cultural, religious and social problems. Why have you not asked, that apart form a very few Nigerian elites like Barrister Femi Falana, and the leadership of NBA and very few religious leaders. All other leaders have kept mute or at best spoken from two sides of their mouth. Even though the PDP controls most of our political spaces, there are a few other political parties in our political space. How come they have all lost their voices. Even the media had been rather tame. Except the mild dissent raised by Dora, no other government official had raised the issue since Yaradua's absence. The North cannot be the only set of people that is comfortable with the way things are, the south-south, west and east had not shown any opposition to the current arrangement. Except we are saying that everybody is afraid of the North.

I think it boils down to the culture of our elites selling their people out to the highest bidders, the Obas and chiefs sold their own people to slavery for monetary gains, they sold their people to the British during commercialization, they sold out to the Military, they sold out to OBJ (remember, most of the power brokers today were rabid supporters of third term - including Yaradua), they are selling out to Yaradua today and would be ready to sell out to the highest bidder tomorrow.

KnowAll:
All that is happening is window dressing. The senate are playing a game, why not impeach Yaradua for AWOL - Absence without leave. That would make sense.

But this one, swearing in an acting President, so it simply means Turai would still be in Aso rock and Jonathan would be at the VP's lodge.

That does not make sense, if Jonathan is sworn in as acting Presdent I dont suppose an acting President would now have an actingthe VP. The whole scenerio is now becoming the more u look, the less u see.  This one naw Abracada - Goverment Magic

Thank you my brother, my people are ever ready to accept pandol in place of Panadol. Declaring Jonathan acting president (unconstitutionally), means we still have a president (and a first lady), even though Yaradua did not tell us he is on holidays - he is simply AWOL.

No body prefers a dead Yaradua to a Jonathan. What people like me is advocating for is obedience to the Laws with which we have agreed to live under. The difference between a civilized society and a unstable one is obedience to the laws, no matter if you agree with it or not.

The Jews held their Torah  which was the Law that regulated their society sacred, and it helped then organize their society for thousands of years.

Also most western Nations hold their laws sacred and every citizen is held accountable to those laws. Here Laws are treated with disdain and the Laws are interpreted according to Tribal, religious, ethnic, class or even personal interests. Such societies cannot survive.

The Nigerian constitution is almost a carbon copy of the American constitution, especially the sections dealing with succession, so why had the type of problem we are having never occurred in the US.
If the US president should disappear for one week without informing anybody, he would be impeached immediately.

I need a Lawyer to explain to me if the Senate has powers to declare the Vice president as president, and under what section of the constitution can we find such powers. I know the National assembly (senate + House) can impeach a president and the Vice automatically takes over, but the senate alone declaring someone acting president? i honestly do not know.

From my unlearned point of view, i thought the vice would be acting immediately the president informs the senate and the house that he would be indisposed. I do not think the senate can make someone acting president, especially when the president had not informed them officially that he is indisposed. So if the president comes back, the senate would just declare the acting president as vice again to enable Yaradua assume the presidency.

Professor Abdul Ahmid Ujo, a member of the Electoral Reform Committee had contended that: "There is no INEC in place. It has only Iwu (chairman) and two other commissioners, which negates federal character and the constitutional requirement of two members from each of the six geo-political zones… That is against the constitution, which prescribed that INEC needs a minimum of one-third to form a quorum. It does not even have the requisite geographical spread. Any election conducted under this kind of arrangement is a nullity. Losers can go to court and have it annulled and they will be justified."

He said the president has not constituted a proper INEC to oversee the Anambra election, less than six months to the end of Obi's tenure. "The law says INEC must be in place 12 months before the election. So how can a valid election hold in Anambra in December (this year) or January (2010)? The tenures of more than two-thirds of the INEC commissioners have expired and they have not been replaced or re-appointed. That is a steady excuse to invalidate any election held under this kind of arrangement," Ujo asserted.

The five-year tenures of 7 of the original 12 commissioners appointed by former president, Olusegun Obasanjo ended August 2008, while an eighth commissioner, Alhaji Mohammed Jumare's tenure ended on April 29, 2009.

The affected commissioners whose tenures expired August last year were Mrs. Esther Sallah (Taraba), Chief Farukanmi Oloruninbe (Ondo), Mohammed Abubakar (Gombe), Dr Mohammed Jumare (Kaduna), Mr. Setley Daze (Plateau), Anuka Uchola (Kogi) and Ekpenyong Nsa (Cross River). Dr Ishmael Igbani (Rivers) led the list of ex-commissioners when he retired in February 2008 as national commissioner in charge of Political Party Monitoring. They are all yet to be replaced.

INEC, at the moment is operating with three commissioners - Adedeji Soyebi, (representing South West) and Barr Philip Umeadi and Victor Chukwuani (both representing South East). Prof Maurice Iwu, also from the South East, presides over INEC.

When contacted, one of the three remaining commissioners, Barr Philip Umeadi who is in charge of information and publicity, was unable to shed more light on the legality of the body's operating without a full complement of commissioners.

For the full story read http://ndn.nigeriadailynews.com/templates/?a=19299

Now that the Anambra governorship elections has come and gone, the real battle will begins in a few days as is usual with all elections in Nigeria since 1999. Attention will now certainly shift to the judiciary as that arm of government has the final say in who the actual winner of the election will be or whether the election was valid in the first place. I know people are jubilating because PDP lost and so it is easy to lose sight of the fundamental flaws in the process. If we do not correct these flaws now, what happened here would be child's play when the 2011 elections comes around, when we would not be able to look at the elections as detailed as we examined this one. INEC and the Government were cautious in rigging this election as the PDP is in a limbo right now and Iwu is seeking a second term. In 2011, these barriers would not be there, especially if IWU is reappointed.

Taking a simple look at the election will reveal a few legal, political and moral issues

1. The Legality of the elections due to the declaration by the court that INEC as presently constituted cannot conduct a constitutionally valid election. I doubt that the excuse that they have not received the judgment papers from the court can be upheld as they were represented by a counsel in the case and so were officially informed of the Judgment and besides ignorance is no excuse in law, and that is the legal position of the elections as of today as INEC had not appealed or asked for a stay of execution.

2. The fact that INEC had not conformed to legal requirements to update their voters register and display such register at the poling units for correction as few weeks to the elections. I might be wrong, but i thought INEC was supposed to display voter's register before any major election.

3. The fact that out of the over 1.8 million registered voters in Anambra State only about 250,000 actually voted representing about 14% of total registered voters. This was because majority of people who wanted to vote could not vote because of INEC's ineptude (or design). When we make provision for inflated votes from stuffed ballot boxes, the percentage of actual voters would be lower still. Also is is a shame that Mr. Obi got elected with only about 5.4% of the total registered voters in Anambra. This shows there is something fundamentally wrong with the elections.

I feel that the whole fiasco was highly mismanaged by CAF, Togolese FA and the Togolese government. The Togolese team should have made their traveling arrangements in consultation with the Angolan FA, the decision to pull out of the tournament should have come from the Togolese FA and not the government, even if the order originated from the government. Also CAF should have been more supportive and understanding. Even at that this is not the first time a tragedy has struck before a major tournament (in fact most African countries has one conflict or the the other going on ,including Nigeria) and it does not necessarily have to involved the team involved withdrawing from the tournament, especially if the tragedy is not directly related to the competition.But the prerogative of Pulling out should lie with the players and relevant officials.  The Jews did not pull out of the Munich Olympic  Games due to terrorist attach on about a dozen of its athletes.

ndu_chucks:
wirinet, Trust me, I feel your pain and probably like you, I now believe that Jonathan should be sworn i[/b]n, not as acting President but [b]as the President of Nigeria!  Yar'Adua should be impeached, there are enough grounds for impeachment at this point.  Note that a court ruled that Yar'Adua is not required to transmit the said letter to the parliament.

For you to accuse me of being part of some PDP circus is a bit silly.  Most legal minds who read the constitution will tell you that the President is not required by law to transmit the said letter, that fact is pretty obvious. There is an expectation that the President would be reasonable enough to transmit such a letter, unfortunately, Turai is in the way.

Jonathan cannot be sworn in as president except the president is impeached, resigned or declared incapacitated, it would be an embarrassment if Jonathan is sworn in as president (on grounds of permanent incapacitation) without proper medical advice and the president fully recovers in the future.

Yes i agree that the president should be impeached, because he had been on AWOL for over 60 days without officially telling his supposed employers (the electorate) by a letter to the National Assembly (supposedly representing the electorate. All the talk about undergoing medical vacation in Saudi Arabia is mere hearsay and speculations as far as our constitution is concerned.   

If as you say that the president is not required by law to transmit a letter to the National Assembly, then why was such a phrase inserted into the constitution. The constitution should have simply said that the president is in no way responsibly to the National Assembly (except passing appropriation bills).  I have never seen a law that is non binding to the person to whom the law refers to. A discretionary law is no law at all and such law is rendered null and void. (Though not a lawyer, i am enjoying talking like one  )

In sane countries the leader is forced to resign if party members lose confidence in his policies or ability to run the country well, some even resign as a result of failed policies. In my country, we are told that we need the a constitution to tell us if a president is performing or not. We need a constitution to spell out exactly when a president is said to be incapacitated or on vacation. Meanwhile the much advertised and all important rotational presidency that is said to be the stumbling block to Jonathan taking over as acting president is not in the constitution.

Beaf:
The whole consititution is as useless as our federal structure. They all need to be thrown out.

The main problem with Nigeria is that our consititution is based on those written by IBB and Abacha to perpetrate themselves in power for life, while stealing oil money from the South.

We need a national conference as soon as this rubbish is resolved. Let every section of the country decide who they want to live with. I personally volunteer the dumping of all Sharia practising states, all our major problems (including cabals) seem to originate from these areas.

Beaf, the problem is not the constitution, it is because the operators disregard the constitution. I had never been a fan of the 1999 constitution as it is a Military Decree, But even at that the power elite defaecate all over it.  They interpret it to suit their whims and caprices. And the problem is not restricted to the Northerners alone, every power group is twisting the laws to suit itself.

We do not need to dump sharia practicing states. It we have true federalism and resource control, i would have not problem with using their resources to fund sharia activities, my quarrel is using the resources gotten from other regions to practice sharia that is antagonistic to the people of the region funding the sharia institutions.

ndu_chucks:
I completely disagree with you here. The court is absolutely correct in ruling that there was no constitution requirement for him to formally write to parliament, informing them he is on "medical vacation". Writing a formal letter to parliament informing them he is on vacation is the only event that will jumpstart the transferring of executive powers to Jonathan.

Our elders need to apply pressure on Yar'Adua to do the right thing - the time has come. Yar'Adua should stop toying with what the millitary may be forced to do.

It is amazing someone can reason like this, most probably you are part of the PDP circus show.

Please tell me Mr. ndu_chucks what a Nigerian president is constitutionally required to do? since according to you he can be sworn in today and decide to go on a "medical or any other type of vacation" the next day till the end of his tenure, and still be collecting his salaries, allowances and entitlements. You are insinuating that the president of Nigeria is not responsible to anybody and so has not responsibility. So according to your constitution how long can a president be away from seat before we can render him incapacitated or be liable for impeachment.

Some Nigerians like you feel a constitution should spell our every single detail on how everybody should behave. There is no constitution like that is the world. There are certain principles that are universal (constitution or not), and avoiding a leadership vacuum is one of the most sacrosanct, whether in a gathering of boys scouts, a church or a nation.

How can Jonathan be acting as the president without being a acting president, is that in the constitution. I need someone to explain.

It saddens me that in the 21st century, my people still associate natural disasters like earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis with Gods wrath or Demons.

Natural Disasters Are means whereby the earth lets out excess energy that builds up due to energy differentials between two regions. The energy is released to restore equilibrium on earth.

Hurricanes are cause the a huge temperature differentials between the equator and the poles, excess heats at the equator (mid ocean) leads to excessive high water evaporation, the resulting water vapour takes on the natural motion of the earth and built up more energy, the resulting hurricane or tropical storm moves towards the poles in order to dissipate this energy.

Earthquakes are caused by the movement of the continental plates or plate tectonics. The continents are pushing against each other, one mid ocean in the Atlantic and another near the north Africa pushing Africa against Europe. When the pressure becomes too great, the resultant release of Energy results in an earth quake. That is why you get Earth quakes mainly around the Haiti, Mexico San Fransisco axis and the Turkey Greece Iran Axis. Also the longer time the last earthquake occurred the more devastating the next earthquake would be. As so much pressure would have built up.

[b]Tsunamis [/b]are cause by earthquakes in the middle of the ocean. The resultant quake would set a huge body of water in motion and eventually the waves would hit the shore and inland with a huge wall of water, causing its own devastation.

So please stop blaming God or Gods or demons for such Natural disasters, that is why they are called Natural disasters and not supernatural disasters.

Deep Sight:
Wirinet! Brilliant post as always!

Happppppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew year!

Happy new year jare my brother, things no easy for this side as this year is starting very slow. Watin man go do except "Aluta Continua" and hope for "Victoria Asserta" as we to say in my uni days.

Hope you dey hold your side well.

Deep Sight:
You contradict yourself. You are stating that humans are trying to develop ways to deal with those things. That clearly shows that their creator has given them the ability to deal with those things.

I wondered recently why my dog's teeth are always clean despite the fact that he does not use a toothbrush. The creator gave the animal the sort of biological system that produces necessary chemicals to rid its teeth of food and plac growth. This is because the creator knew the animal he was making would not be given the intelligence or abilities to develop a toothbrush.

But where there is intelligence, nature demands that IT MUST BE USED. Thus human teeth will rot away if not cleaned regularly.

The reason that nature demands constant use of intelligence is the fact that intelligence itself will rot away if not used constantly.

This explains why the animal may have ears that hear geological vibrations and move on - but the human is REQUIRED TO USE EITHER HIS INTELLIGENCE OR SPIRITUAL CAPACITIES TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

Dogs teeth are always clean, just like other mammals because they do not eat refined foods, especially refined sugar. The minute they start eating chocolate, they would need regular visits to the dentists too. We homo sapiens had lived most of our existence (without refined foods of course) without cleaning our teeth regularly, just like present day Gorilla.

Nature demands intelligence as a means of survival. Other animals develop other senses to aid their own survival. Some can sense vibrations too low for even our most sensitive seismic meters cannot pick.

Natural disasters are an integral part of the dynamism of the earth, absence of them would have even more devastating consequences.

chosen04:
Wake up!

Oblige me the honour by waking me up.

RichyBlacK:
Just wanted to point out that Nigeria has the most useless government in the universe. Thanks.

I beg to disagree Richy, the world had produced worse government in the past, read a bit of history. Also are you telling me the government at you state or local government is better than that of the Nigerian state?

I believe a people gets the Government they deserve, the day we stand for our rights and be ready to defend them, instead of our present situation where we worship corruption (moneybags) or at best "siddon look", will always give us the government we have now.

It always pains me when people just open their mouth and just blab about without understanding the import of their words. Civil War? who is waring who? Do you think the west with all their education and mouth can win a war against the "stupid" North. As is said in Nairaland I laugh in Arabic. The West and south (singularly or in combination) does not have enough cohesion to engage the North in any war now. The North controls the Military, the economics, the oil and other important state apparatus.  The North can also depend on the absolute support of Arab Nations, like Saudi Arabia, Iran and even Sudan. Even China is likely to support the North. Who will the South depend on? The British? well i have news for you, the British would likely support the North anyday, they have ties predating Nigeria independence.

Instead of the west to be planning and engaging in political and diplomatic maneuvers, they are blabbing all over the place about a fictional war.

As an example, I use to have a sales by who was a homo, while i was running a bar on V/I. He hailed from Calabar ( i hear a lot of gays come from there). All his mannerism were feminine, even his name was Eno. He would wiggle his behind like a lady when dancing to Makossa. He loves to hang out with ladies gossiping and doing girly things. One day he was caught in the act, doing it with some small boy (his boyfriend) behind the shop. He was stripped naked and given a beating of his life, his hair was then shaven clean as a punishment. Guess what? less than a month later he was caught again with the same boy.

So what do you want to do, kill him?. Although i sacked him for doing it behind the shop while on duty and not because he was gay. If he did it elsewhere during his free time, that would not have been my concern.

reporter?:
@Bluytooth,
I see your point and I understand where you coming from. A littlle leaven leavens the whole lot, I guess is your point.


Let me first state it clearly. I do not condone homosexuality nor am I an advocate of Gay rights.

However, we Africans tend to believe that homosexuality is lifestyle or societal induced.
Nothing can be further from the truth. Homosexuality is a disease that affects close to 10 percent of the population.
It is observed in every society, though more pronounced in the West due to their liberalism than other parts of the world.
Homosexuality has been in Nigeria long before you and I were born.
It has nothing to do with the West. The West only influences their coming out "of the closet" so to speak.

You'll find gays in countries where the practice of it is punishable by death (Middle East, South Asia.)
Do you honestly think anybody wants to be gay under such circumstance? 

Dealing with the issues of gays is always a toughie for legislators.
I personally think that Nigeria should not enact any law to encourage more coming out of the closet.
It will only lead to more of more, and before you know it, you have a city in Nigeria as the next Frisco.
The "don't ask don't tell" policy keep things in perspective.
Aggressive gay counseling and treatment should be offered to discourage the continuity of it.

On a side note, why any man would not want a nice "one" is beyond my understanding.

I am glad you are using your head and not your heart to analyze the situation. I also against any new legislation in support or against gays.  i insist  that they should not be discriminated against officially.  

Some sexuality problems can be treated medically, others are ingrained in the genes and cannot, and the person has to live with it. In the west serious cases can undergo sex change in order to live normal lives, but here where no such thing is available, the person suffers for the rest of his/her life.

I am still at loss why some people get so worked up about what two consenting adults do in the confines of their bedrooms that does not affect us at all and are able to condone armed robbery, militants, fake drug peddlers and corruption which affect us all one way or the other.

In my view i do not support same sex marriage because marriage should be between opposite sex in order to mainly protect the females,  but i insist that openly gay persons should not be discriminated against.

Onwan:
Those f.aggo.ts should be shot on sight.

As a matter of fact, what the f.u.ck?

I like your sense of Justice. If all gays should be shot at sight, then what mode of justice will your prescribe for Prostitutes, abortionists and drug addicts? what about official stealing by government officials,Oil Bunkering, 419 and fake drug manufacturers (which actually leads to loss of life).

Justcash:
SAY NO! TO LEGALISING HOMOSEXUALITY IN NIGERIA!!!!!!

While the number of unmarried Nigerian ladies is skyrocketing, Some men are seeking for ways to bang and marry themselves legally. God forbid bad thing!

It is acceptable abroad because most of them tolerate it, but the NIGERIAN culture does not permit it!

We should follow the pattern nature and culture has created for us. Forget all these silly western influence!

I have alot of female gay friends. I understand them because most of them do it to satisfy their emotional needs which was created by the increasing lack of men in their societies.

Yes, Nigerian culture is sometimes hypocritical, meaning that they openly condemn some things in the open while condoning it. Homosexualism is condemned in the north but it is widely practiced there.

Also i doubt your gay friends are doing it because of a shortage of di.cks where they are, because some men are ready to even pay handsomely for a nice looking a.s.s. Homosexualism is a very complex phenomena and different people do it for different reasons. Some are natural, some are out of curiosity, others like prisoner/ sailors is out of  sexual starvation for long periods of time, there are those that do it for power rituals (that is where generals and politicians come in). It is hard to put all gays in one basket.

Trust Nigerians ( my people), they are just like the proverbial ostrich, they hide their heads in the sand and wish away reality. They are afraid to accept the fact that people can be radically different from them. Also they love to deceive themselves and the whole world by wearing a holy mien around their heads while they are rotten inside.  The result of this deceit can be seen in all facets of our society.

Whether we like it or not, we cannot wish homosexuals away, they have been with us since the dawn of history and will be with us till the last day. And they are no where less humans that you heterosexuals (homosexualism had also been observed in animals). Sexual orientation has no correlation whatsoever with intelligence or morality.

Finally homosexualism has nothing to do with democracy, autocracy or any other form of government. It is just that in autocratic societies they go underground.

All you people that want to eliminate all homosexuals, i wonder what you will do if you discover your siblings has abnormal sexual orientation. maybe cast our the demon of homosexualism

noblezone:
Bros, I read the report and my question to oga Jibril is this:

I have accepted that America's policy is the reason for the terrorism against them, but I will like to know the policy of the non-Moslems in the North that provokes the internal terrorism against them.

Also, since it is about America and middle East, what has that got to do with the Mutallab guy who happens to be a Nigerian.

Thanks.

Thank you for asking oga Aminu and his co-supporters. Please ask him wetin concern us with American/ Arab conflict or is it Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Why would a Nigerian be ready to die for an Arab cause and not a Nigerian cause?

violent:
Duke is right, we dnt need dummies, the dude is a vice president for christ sake, he shouldn't just let people throw him around, imagine if it were Obasanjo in his shoes!

OBJ could not be in Jonathan's shoes, OBJ was president for Christ sake. According to the Nigerian constitution the post of Vice president is that of errant boy for the president and has no responsibility except that given by the president. A vice president /deputy Governor can only act if he is certain that the president/governor is incapacitated, dead or impeached and even then he has to be sworn in by the Chief Justice and a lot of other bureaucratic bottlenecks, meanwhile Jonathan( and Nigerians) is kept in the dark about the true state of the president.

Gbawe:
My brother, I too agreed with Beaf that Jonathan should be careful as regards certain issues. There is however no excuse for his inaction over a situation that concerns all Nigerians - regardless of their region of origin. Wether you are from the North or South, you will now be subjected to heavier scrutiny as a Nigerian when you visit the USA.

All Nigerians would have backed Jonathan if he acted proactively on an issue that affects the entire country . No one will accuse Jonathan of undermining Yar Adua if he acted as the voice of Nigeria when it is painfully obvious that we are currently without representation.

When had Nigerians acted proactively on any issue that affect the entire country. If any major crisis comes up, every body usually enters his/her ethic enclave.

I think Bafarawa and Duke are being very unfair to Jonathan Goodluck. I wonder if duke could have done better in the same situation. Remember this is not the first time Yaradua had traveled on medical grounds without handing over power as is constitutionally required and Duke had not raised any eyebrow before. What would have happened if Jonathan had usurped the presidents powers in one of those occasions, i am sure Yaradua and the hawks in PDP would have dealt with Jonathan and the same duke would have blamed him for being to ambitious. Remember what happened to Kingibe who was positioning himself in case of yaradua not coming back during the last Saudi episode.

Since the people around Yaradua have been lying to everybody including the vice president, how do you expect him to know the true situation of Yaradua's health. What do you expect him to do when the Attorney General, the FEC, the legislature and the Governors Forum is not allowing him to exercise presidential powers. For God sake he was not allowed to sign the appropriation bill and swear in the New Chief Justice. The PDP is calling anybody asking for the true position of Yaradua's health unpatriotic and ask that we pray instead.

Jonathan does not have the support of the political elite to take over by force, he can only wait for things to unravel itself naturally, since he knows he cannot be disposed off easily as they would need a valid excuse to remove him.

Also, how many of the 911 suspect's parents, family members or associates did the US senate invite? Or one rule for Saudi Arabia (as 11 of the 911 suspects are Saudis) and another one for bloody Nigerians