₦airaland Forum

ceejayluv:
Did Tinubu believe in no pain no gain when he orchestrated protests in 2012 against same subsidy removal?

That is opposition politics. It is how it politics is played globally even in the traditional homes of democracy like the UK, USA etal.


Is it not shameful for us to be arguing Tinubu, an ordinary citizen, was against fuel subsidy removal in 2012 when the President, i.e GEJ, has the power to instantly remove it assuming he had the bravery and capacity to do so?

The bigger question, for those always ready to give as good as they get rather than play victim, is why did GEJ, who was President, not stand his ground and do what he must as Tinubu is doing today?

Tinubu removed fuel subsidy virtually on day one. What GEJ failed to do is on him not on opposition politicians who have a duty of gaslighting him as many are doing to Tinubu today without success.

gentlesmithugo:
Ithrash,bullcrap,gibberish.thats all u have being spitting.

Lol. No walahal. Have a nice life.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
You keep writing long rubbish, tinubu have removed subsidy he protested against cos of politics according to you but same tinubu has borrowed more than every Govt put together since 1960 with nothing to show for it and insecurity at the highest.Apart from coastal road that his partner is building,what exactly have tinubu done in 3 years.Insecurity,high fuel price and inflation is on the rise and money is still being borrowed everyday.You keep talking about Obi cos you hate or what cos Obi have never been President before for us to know if he would do better or not.

The bolded is your take? Total mistake responding to so many of you. Bye.

lightwind:

Are you Ok at all, na everybody be Obedient for your eyes

Anyone who says pim against Bola Tinubu is now an Obedient.

If not for this mods banning and deleting chats i for tell u words now.

Lol. Why are you speaking so angrily and vehemently on behalf of another poster if you are not one of the Nairalanders with multiple IDs?

Why don't you let the poster I responded to refute he is an Obidient?

gentlesmithugo:
wen someone who's nothing to offer talks u will no.see d crap dis big for n*thing is capping.shame on u

Yeah. Happy Sallah to you.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
So tinubu criticizing Jonathan is just politics [b]but anybody criticizing tinubu is a tribal bigot.[/b]How has tinubu done well than Jonathan,is Nigeria better and safer now under tinubu than Jonathan despite the loans tinubu has plunged Nigeria into

No I never insinuated that. My stance is always that critics of Tinubu must make it make sense. Nigeria's problem is structural.

Only Tinubu, since 1999, has moved to tackle those structural problems at the risk of being hated by average Nigerians who don't have a comprehensive grasp of our challenges and the solutions required.

Subsidy, in virtually every sector, ruined Nigeria and damaged our human resources by turning them into a people not as motivated, innovative and solutions-driven as they can be.

Over decades, and as one example of the deleterious effects of subsidies, our power sector is totally screwed.

It is fully privatised and deregulated today. 230 million plus people. Why aren't investors trooping in? Simple. Subsidy damaged what should be the natural transition of Nigeria's power sector to grow efficiently through cost-reflective tariff charges that will incentivise requisite investment to ensure Nigerians will be enjoying stable power today.

Why did this not happen? Because many Nigerian Presidents and heads of States are gradualist. They know the solution to 99.9% of Nigeria's problem is to grow the per capita income of Nigerians meaning a people who earn well can spend well to create great societies.

These past Presidents find deplorable situation on ground. Many know the precise solutions required because they all have brilliant advisors but non has had the integrity to commit to what must be done to really transform our nation and set her on the path of developed nation greatness because they know the masses, they fully understand are largely ignorant, will hate them if they implement reforms that are absolutely crucial but will be punitive in the short term. In shirt, they pander to politics at the expense of the development of Nigeria.

It is only Tinubu implementing the reforms Nigeria needs. This is why Nigeria's Central Bank, for the first time ever, is the world central bank of the year 2026.

Testimony to his genuine love of Nigeria while Nigerians continue to praise and deify their local champions in OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ, Atiku, Obi etal who knows what must must be done, as ordinary Nigerians do not, yet failed to comply.

Buhari's regime, for example, messed up our CBN with their hatchet man Emefiele yet I am amused seeing some Nigerians asking for a return of Buhari because, as a nation, we do not understand the concept of "no pain no gain".

You guys are worshipping your oppressors because they have weaponized poverty against you so you do not appreciate what you must aim for that others have worldwide as standard.

I will give examples. You want cheap and subsidized education. The trade off of that is that we are still not creating high quality graduates to solve the problems of Nigeria, and even export solutions, as China, USA, Japan, UK etal have been doing for decades now. Every great nation of the world has to be capable of a high degree of finding internal human resources solutions for her problems. We are not even close.

We want to pay next to nothing for power supply, yet how will Nigeria become industrialised, with a thriving goods, services and manufacturing sector without adequate power supply?

You want to pay 80 Naira per litre foe petrol without understanding that is an artificial and subsidized construct that is coming at the expense of the potentials of the Nigerian economy to grow while only a few (marketers, racketeers, Oil and gas etal) benefiting and getting massively rich while poverty and stagnation is pervasive

It really isn't hard for anyone capable of thinking critical to note what Tinubu is and how he is the truth.

CyberHustle:
waaaooooooooh.
Tinubu did more than GEJ?

Jonathan used SA mercenaries to push back BH. Tinubu cannot touch them from all we are seeing.
Our problem in this nation is blindness.

Look bro, this is where you have to try and understand the big picture.

Nigeria's problem is structural and stems from issues we are don't want to confront related to how very different we are and how those differences can become a strength if we accept and define them instead of glossing over issues with 'one Nigeria' self-deceit.

Hiring mercenaries cannot solve anything. Short termism at best. Real solution will revolve around State/regional police force that will allow regions of Nigeria, that want it, to create modern, intelligence/tech based and effective police forces our divided, unmotivated, corrupt, ethno-religiously fractious Nigerian police force, an example of everything wrong about 'one Nigeria', will never achieve.

Jonathan and OBJ outrightly said Nigeria "not ripe for State policing". Buhari pretended he did not hear the question. It is only under Tinubu such is now an imminent possibility.

Moving away from insecurity, why did GEJ not have the balls to remove fuel subsidy? Yes Tinubu etal gaslit him but opposition politics is precisely about that.

Only PBAT has fairly created regional development commission for every geopolitical zone of Nigeria that the FG is funding whereas we had only NDDC under all other Presidents since 1999.

Why was GEJ not brave enough to destroy currency arbitrage mainly benefitting the Northern Bureau De Change system yet doing massive damage to Nigeria's ability to make the Naira a more convertible currency and supply Forex to those who can improve our capacity to trade with the world.

I could go on all day. Bro, Tinubu is not GEJs mate even as I can understand if you have a sentimental or ethnocentric attachment to Jonathan. I only ever align with facts and stone cold reality. We must begin to shun sentiments and emotions if we truly wish Nigeria to be great.

CyberHustle:
The man criticized Jonathan heavily and i expect nothing less as solution from him as president.
There is no reasonable excuse for one ethnic militia have cells of few hundred fighters and the army that boasts thousands of soldiers who can be redeployed to handle one or two cell at a time, doing almost nothing for the attacked and even protecting the aggressors. It points to high level conspiracy and is very troubling.

You come across as one paid to defend I must say.

I am not paid to defend anyone. I am a solutions provider and I do well financially. I just want peace and progress so we can all enjoy Nigeria.

Yes Tinubu criticised GEJ but it is all politics. In real terms, and related to addressing the fundamental problems of Nigeria, Tinubu has done far better than GEJ.

No decent Nigerian will be happy at the level of insecurity in Nigeria today but the problem is very complex and I believe Tinubu is doing well given the reality of our challenges.

The solution is to create State or regional policing asap which I believe this President will achieve. Once Stated and region have the capacity to define their own security solutions then they can be as modernly efficient as the best in the world or as backwards as the worst.

franchasng:
Imagine just 30,000 militants holding more than 200million Nigerians on ransom?

The only reason this is happening is because Bola Tinubu the incumbent President of Nigeria allowed it.


You are the President for Christ's sake, act like one!


Stop playing politics with everything.



If you know Nigerian security are compromised by some of the Fulanis or Hausa-Fulanis or staunch Muslims in the army or Police being sympathetic to these terrorists, then take them by surprise by going abroad to hire a competent, ruthless foreign mercenaries that will operate with sophisticated modern weapons and security technologies and then order Chief of Army staff and Chief of Defense staff to send all Nigerian soldiers back to their respective barracks! Any soldier found outside the barrack will be treated as a terrorist.



Empower states to form their local forest guards and let them use highest grade weapons.


Combine this with the foreign mercenaries combing all Nigerian forests with surveillance and attack drones, and watch insecurity reduced to less than 10% within few months.

Here we go again. Nigeria's problem, many decades long, begins and end with Tinubu according to you bigots. Can you people ever rise above your indoctrinated prejudice against Yorubas and the SW?

Which Southern President has allowed USA operate in Nigeria as we are seeing today? Even OBJ, a military general, will be hesitant. Certainly not GEJ who simply does not have the capacity.

What you guys show here daily is the problem of Nigeria. I.e an inability of Nigerians to rise above petty ethno-religious chauvinism to see what matters and what is in the best progressive interest of Nigeria.

If you guys are truly progressive and mean well for Nigerian, assuming you see the big picture clearly, you will know Tinubu is a President all Nigerians should get behind so we have honest conversations with ourselves and put some measures in place to rehabilitate our nation.

Tinubu is perhaps the only Southern leader who can facilitate that. Never that fraud Obi you ethnocentric lot deify.

iichidodo:
There's no centralization of leadership of their terrorist activities because it has become a socio cultural aspect of the Fulani, from the ordinary herder with his clan in the bush to deep inside the confines of Government where the Fulani hold powerful influence.This generation of young Fulani in their thousands especially those in the bush are hard pressed by various factors to shun the ways of their cattle herder fathers and follow the route of their local heroes like bello turji, dogo gide etc... Every bush Fulani even those trooping into the country from other West African countries, wants to make money by hook or crook. You cannot kill the whole Fulani to stop the menace, it will be a crime against humanity, but you can tag,track and analyse their movements,hell even predict their actions, based on socio-economic, socio-cultural and climate change factors, as how it impacts the security of lives and properties of the locals in various regions of the country...

Some very good point. Young Fulanis today are different to their fathers. We need to recognize that. I don't believe ostracizing or demonizing Fulanis will help because we are in nationhood with them. They are Nigerians so we must find a solution.

That solution is modern policing with introduction of observation technology and response (satellite ,CCTV real time monitoring etal leading to rapid deployment and response of armed forces personnel) DNA technology, intel gathering and use, optimised biometric capacity, data base identification/registration of as many Nigerians as possible etc.

The problem with Nigeria, and anybody who has lived in the West will confirm this, is that our crime-fighting is pre-historic and was deliberately being kept that way because insecurity is big business.

Our capacity to prevent crime, more crucial than fighting crime, is literally 100 years behind that of most European nations.

Northern leaders are the most predatory in the world. I doubt they have the will or interest to save/develop their people and actually cease exploiting them nefariously.

It is the rest of us that must give the North tough love because when the North is good we will all be good.

favour32:
Nigeria is one on paper.
But in reality,not one.

💯% correct and it is ordinary Nigerians who do not know that hence the reason they are always self-harming via making wrong choices.

Our leader knows precisely what they are doing and the North-South cold war dichotomy behind most problems of Nigeria.

Leaders from the North and South basically have a truce in place to facilitate what is an uneasy and unnatural alliance.


Terrorism is a creation of Northern leaders to gain blackmailing leverage over the South. Southerners are 'sleeping' in Nigeria and we will get in very serious trouble if we don't start thinking and acting right to rescue our nation.

BlocksNG:
Tinubu is very weak, a weakling.

What nonsense is this one saying? When people talk as you do it is obvious the issue is about bias/prejudice against others. Probably ethno-religious.

Tinubu is probably the only Southern leader alive who can do what we are seeing today.

Jonathan, when he was in power, dare allow USA operate in Nigeria? Dem no born Obi or any other Southerner to try am.

You are probably a bitter Obidient who does not understand how innate authority and strength, vested in only a few individuals, works.

Nigerian Presidency is not about the office as in Okonjo-iweala or Adeshina etal can come in and start bullying/ordering many monsters and demagogues around.

What Tinubu has done so far, only him can do as a President from the South given the adversarial dichotomy between the North and South particularly in terms of vested interest.

Give Tinubu his dues. He is the strongest Southern leader alive by far and I personally even worry for the South when he departs because I don't see anyone who can can come in and the North will not bully or subjugate.

renderme:
Why do you think America has been bombing sokoto and environs? They know exactly what is happening in Nigeria and the players involved.
Tinubu is working his way around it with wisdom and steel and has been excellent so far. Cos if Tinubu leaves, no hope again o.
Those American bombs are going to end.

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Precisely. The entire West is behind Tinubu. They need us for their energy transition plan which is still at least 20 to 30 years away for many western nation.

They don't want the cowardly Obi as President because they understand our politics to know he'll be a powerless stooge.

The presidency alone does not bestow power. Who is in the seat, and the authority they command matters in Nigeria to get the best out of the office. Obi is empty in that respect.

They don't want a Fulani in power either for obvious reason. They have the list of sponsors of terror and USA has directly mentioned Fulani terror as a potentially destabilising threat for Nigeria.

Tinubu is going nowhere. Presidency is not Obi's level. Atiku, Kwanwaso, the Mauritanian brothers etal should make ending terrorism they are causing Nigeria their full time focus instead of chasing the Presidency and trying to usurp the turn of the South.

Streetinvestor2:
And what is the dead from SW doing. He grabbed and ran away in 2023.This time it can never happen

Lol. You and whose army will stop him?

kedeojo:
Very soon the mannerless, uncultured mobs will start descending on him. they don't like to hear the truth and that is why nmandi kanu and ekpa easily manipulated them.

Absolutely.100% correct talk.

sucess001:
Everyone knows that when the US calls you a terrorist, you have questions to answer but because obidients want him as VP they will wash him clean... Just like they want us to believe obi is an angel

This is the best form of poetic justice we are witnessing in HD. Mike Arnold was a hero of Obidients when he was attacking PBAT.

They were lobbying and hailing. Now he will kick them in the b*lls attacking OK as a terrorist ticket.

@Mike Arnold.
Mike Baba, I take back all my ungracious words against you. Please, help us lobby the west to ensure the terrorist ticket of OK is rejected globally 🙏🏾

TimeManager:
Obidients are so predictable. You don't have to deny Mike Arnold now, since you have been butt.. licking him over his attacks against the Administration in power and also when he was pushing the narrative of Christian Genocide until the US Government bought into it and acted on the agenda.
The same man has assured you that he's also going to make sure the US Govt respond strongly against Obi/Kwankwaso ticket.
You cheered him on in the past, so keep the energy and don't turn around like a chameleon.

-Kiss the truth!

Lol. Gbabeski. I can't wait for Trump to start talking about Obi and Kwankwaso threateningly. It is going to be hilarious.

TokoEkambi:
Why is this Arnold guy bringing this up now? Kwakwanso is a holy man. At least until he goes against their agulu fraud. That's when they'll remember he's a terrorist. People that could curse El Rufai and within 2 years turn the same El Rufai to their hero are not people you should bother with.

They are the most unprincipled and desperate in the Universe.

SlavaUkraini:
Okay.... So you support the weaponization of poverty for political reasons ?

The man that is driving jeep will dictate to the man that is trekking who to vote for because he offered him one basket of Rice for 4 years ?

Well-done...

Do some research and study how nations in the doldrums reformed to become developed. Like Singapore that is a perfect case study.

Fundamental and transformative reforms, for any nation economically at rock bottom as Nigeria is, cannot come without some form of pain or sacrifice.

Lol. Everyone can say what they want on social media na. Reality is different.

DavidIN:
For adding
Buhari and Tinubu, you should be sent to mental health hospital. I guess you are probably typing from Yabaleft

Whether you want to see it or not, Buhari and Tinubu have built things as proper leaders do.

You are the one who belongs in "Yabaleft".

olyrayy:
Purposeful how? Is Wike purposeful? What's the difference between them? What was his purpose? Destroy his parrty and impose himself on the people?

Bruv, you can't be weak in Nigerian political leadership. The likes of Wike do what they must and you wouldn't understand. I don't need to say more than that.

olyrayy:
Remove Akintola from this list 😒

Akintola the Wike 1.0

I included him because he was purposeful. Nigerian politicians today are disgraceful. They are like 10k olosho available to anyone. No capacity whatsoever.

By the way, Wike na my guy. Love that dude die. If you understand Nigerian politics you will know it is full of devils and monsters.

Wike is not in that category. His main sin is that he is loud and outspoken.

Aside that, he is a compassionate, brave and competent leader. I have met so many folks from Rivers, in Lagos State, who swear by Wike's performance as Governor. He is doing same as FCT Minister showing he is the real deal.

Lol. Mike Arnold. My nigga. I have attacked this guy non-stop on Nairaland but I will search his handles on social media and message him with an unreserved apology and peace handshake.

Same energy he uses to focus attention on "Christian genocide" he must use to mess up the Obi/Kwankwaso fake alliance.

He should loud it that Kwankwaso is a person of interest in relation to the proliferation of terrorism in Nigeria.

Streetinvestor2:
So now if someone like me want to look for measuring yard I will consider u..lol
How cam my expectations be that low for christ sake

Whatever.

helinues:
There is no way Pantami would have won the Apc primary as he has been against president Tinubu even before the 2023 election

All the best to him though

Correct. Yet the greater point is that we must ask why those who say they wish to lead us do not seem to have capacity for building anything.

Compare politicians today to Awolowo, Azikiwe, Akintola, Buhari and Tinubu etal. It is a joke. Great men and great leaders build great things.

Today we have clowns who leave a Party today, join another tomorrow and have even moved to a third Party by the weekend. How does that display anything other than cynical desperation for power?

Do Nigerians even understand what qualities leaders of men, institutions, nations and processes must have? What we are doing is the equivalent of asking footballers to be Neuro surgeons.

When Moniepoint CEO said he found Nigerian employees to have a lower intelligence quotient in comparison to others they came for his head.

How is it not obvious that those who do not have the capacity to build anything, like Atiku and Obi and now Pantami, are not leaders?

Do we even understand what qualities leaders must have in Nigeria so we then uncompromisingly support those who have those qualities to help our nation reach her potentials as the biggest black nation on Earth?

Next minute Nigerians will be shouting APC this, PDP that and labour when they don't seem to understand that the way so-called leaders move up and down, like Olosho changing hotels, simply shows Nigerian political Parties have no institutional integrity and that everything is about the specific history and capacity of individuals seeking to lead.

Owoino:
How the South West is producing Nigerian presidents while the South East will never do that in a thousand years

Me, as a Yoruba, remains happy these folks are always d1ck measuring with us while we don't give a toss about them.

It shows who is obsessed with who. People should check OPs topic. Majority show a morbid and scary obsession with the SW and Yorubas.

@OP.

Lol. You are at it again. 99% of your post is dedicated to comparing your folks to the Yorubas or disparaging the SW.

Do you know what your obsession displays to secure and winning Yorubas? It means you are consumed with trying to measure up to us.

We are your benchmark. Just letting you know buddy so you man up and face your business instead of chasing your own tail around all day.

decasey:
the politicians are just using his name to cause division and to catch cruise, from a credible source this man is not contesting.

Even if he is it will because GEJ is a strategic deployment by PBAT. North is the biggest challenge against PBAT because the born-to-rule hawks from the region are very desperate to regain power.

With Atiku running against PBAT, GEJ and Obi he will toast in the South and I doubt he will get 25% anywhere there. Few will vote for Atiku across the south if the trio of Southerners are running.

It will be same as when Buhari, after three attempts, could not get over the line because he was unpopular in the South till Tinubu laundered his image in the SW to help him win all SW States bar Ekiti under Fayose.

Nigerians are naive and seriously underestimate PBAT.