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Ken4Christ:
There are many other things you are missing without Christ.

1. Peace of mind.
2. Divine health.
3. Ability to change hopeless situation.
4. Long life.
5. Ability to see certain things before they happen.
6. Divine protection.
7. God's kind of love indwells us.
8. We can cast out demons.
9. We can heal the sick.
10. Free from guilt and condemnation.

And lots more

christ doesn't give peace of mind, health, protections and long life Ken.

This is why Christian countries are not the richest, heslthiest, most protected and live longest.
You making stuffs up Ken without evidence

Gospel2Day:
The ONLY thing I feel for you is PITY, sorrowful PITY.
The Bronze Age nomads cooked Garri and Amala, and you didn't reject the rubbish foods they invented or discovered how to cook.
Why don't you reject and despise the ways they did things that you Modern Age atheists now embrace and copy?
Can you see why atheists are called fools?
They don't think straight and deep.
If you reject the Bible that Bronze Age nomads wrote, you MUST reject also every other thing that Bronze Age nomads did that you now imitate and copy.
Stop using hot water to cook food.
Stop digging wells to get drinking water.
Stop roasting meat.
Give us your own modern sophisticated ways of doing what those ancient folks you so much despise bequeathed to us.
I like to see fools advertise and publicize their folly.
It's not too late to humble yourself, repent from your foolishness and receive Jesus into your life.
Shalom.

The Bible is myth like other religious books.
Deal with it and stop acting like a brainwashed dude.

If you want to talk about the topic, do it without injecting your self-deluded religious beliefs into it.

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha

He calls me deluded.

You can't just discount my research if you have no idea how much information I have garnered.

History has shown that the Annunaki's of ancient Sumeria are still the same people behind every single myth and legends of God's and Goddesses in every culture of antiquity.

But the truth is we are saying the same thing in different languages and from different POVs.

Is religion the biggest problem we have in the world today?

I completely agree.

But, there is an INFINITE MIND behind all of the entire cosmos.

Do we need religion to help us realize our connection to this INFINITE MIND?

Abosultely not.

We already have everything we need, all we have to do is look inwards.

PS: I am very open to expanding my world view. If you have research materials to share, kindly do - I am always willing to learn.

Gracias!!

I'm not interested in this, I just want to correct the narrative that Zeus and Yahweh are the same concepts.
They are not, the only thing they share in common is that they are both figments of imagination from ancient humans.

Gospel2Day:
The Bible says *The fool has said in his heart that there is no God. "
If you don't believe God exists, you should not believe in morality too. Who told you what Nigerian girls did to you is bad or evil?
By whose authority did you come to that conclusion?
What if the Nigerian girls who did you something also do not believe in God and so feel that doing men evil is no big deal, it's just a game?
If you assert that God doesn't exist, then you lose the moral high ground to term anything or anyone as bad or evil.
You these kids on Nairaland need serious deliverance from demonic possession and deception.
Repent of your foolish atheism and receive Jesus into your empty and dark heart which has become the hideouts of foul spirits and fiendish entities.
Shalom.

The Bible is a rubbish book written by bronze age nomads, I don't take anything written there seriously as they are myths and fictions just like Spiderman comic.

Just get your religious stuff outta this thread. Religious African expert

Gratefulsoul202:
Really?

yes, financially and otherwise.
Though that doesn't mean that prosperity has anything to do with atheism, it just means that prosperity is not a factor of your belief system.
Stop wasting your time looking for help where there's none

oteneaaron:
Do your research man, go way back to ancient sumeria.

Enlil is the half brother of Enki.

Enlil is Zeus, who is also Yahweh, who is also the Demiurge.

Enki is Poseidon, who is also the serpent or Satan in the Bible.

There is an INFINITE MIND behind the whole cosmos.

He (or she) is referred to as THE ALL.

The term "GOD" is used to make it easy for people to grasp the concept of an INFINITE CONCIOUSNESS...

You don't need to do any research to know that Zeus, the alpha Olympian God, son of Cronus is not Jewish Yahweh, both are also different from Odin Norse god. You only need to stop cherrypicking stuffs that suits your imaginations.

And all of these gods don't exist. No evidence that they do.

The term God is an English statement meaning "any supernatural diety". Stop deluding yourself

oteneaaron:
Don't forget that you and EVERY human being on earth today, has DIRECT ACCESS to God.

While it is true that God means different things to different people, when I talk about "GOD", I am actually referring to the INFINITE MIND behind the whole cosmos.

Not the God of religion.

When you study the history of religion, this God of religion is sometimes referred to as the Demiurge.

Demiurge = Yahweh = Zeus = Jehovah = Enlil = same person.

That is why he is given human characteristics like, Jealousy, Hate, Anger, etc.

You should understand that you don't need to look outside yourself or to any sky daddy for the answers.

Everything you have ever needed has been buried deep inside you all along.

Stop giving your power to any religious leader nor any established religion - they are all instruments of INDOCTRINATION.

When you are part of a religion, you are never allowed to think for yourself, you are only expected to do what you are told to do.

Stop looking outwards, instead look inside yourself.

If only you know who you truly are, you go realize say wetin you de find for sokoto, is already inside your sokoto.

Religion is not the answer.

For research purposes, try and study this book - WHO IS THIS KING OF GLORY? - by Alvin Boyd Khun.

There's no evidence that a god exist.

Zeus is not the same description as yahweh

LordReed:
Prayer works but not in the supernatural way people imagine it does. Prayer helps bring calm to your mind and helps you keep focus on solving your problem, it's not a magic spell that prompts genies to come to your aid. You get the same effect from meditation techniques so there is no special thing about prayer.

touche

Gratefulsoul202:
Hello everyone,

Have been a very active guest on nairaland since about last year. Have been reading and going through so many atheist believes here and I somehow find it sensible to me cause each day I go through a lot I pray fast and do many more it just seems as if the thing won't change.


Then I remembered how my mom was a chronic church lover who never misses a church program. If you read my previous post about how my dad is to me you would understand the sorrow she has gone through before she died.

Mainly the post on nairaland that has made me realize that Indeed these prayers dont work was an old post from hardmirror(sorry for the mention sir) I came across It i read everything and realize this man is making sense. Although I still attend church services like normal Christians but my zeal for Christ have gone each time am in church I don't feel like it makes sense to me to come to the church on basis of praying praying and praying which mostly doesn't work.

Dude, I became happier since I lost faith in God and religion.
The quality of my life improved as I'm no longer subjected to dogma and unsubstantiated claims.

I started living by facts and not fictions/presumed lies. Try it and see your life change for good.
I started making informed decisions instead of depending on imaginary beings and revelation. Critical reasoning helps dude

Gospel2Day:
You sound like the 19 years here by your disrespectful and abusive response.
The Nigerian girls that did you something did they put gun to your brains to date them by force?
Your lack of self control and sensibility is the culprit here, NOT the girls you are accusing.
If you had stayed away from them and focus on becoming something in life, would any girl do you something?
You disregard the laws of God, fornicate as though there is NO God and His commandment Thou Shalt NOT Commit Sexual Sins, and you think there will be no consequences?
That's a simple way to be foolish.
Leave the girls alone. Let them be.
If that's too difficult for you to do, then blame yourself for your lack of self control..

dude, you are not wise.
God doesn't exist, don't push that your nonsense relgious narratives on me. Grow up.

If Nigeria lady tidy you, you will stop saying all these nonsense

Gospel2Day:
She raised valid points.
Please, let's stop this hostility we mete out to our females.
I know they have their faults and excesses, but we males are not without our own faults and foibles too.
My question is If you employ a maid, visit prostitutes and employ extra lessons teacher for your kids, calculate how much you will be spending monthly as their salaries.
Do those three jobs that people engage in to make ends meet deserve remuneration?
If you pay your wife the same amount you pay your maid and the lesson teacher and the oloshos you sin with every month, will you still accuse your wife of bringing NOTHING to the table?
You want a woman to do the duties of a maid, a lesson teacher and a mistress who helps you quench your urge to merge with the opposite sex and who carries your babies, often with the risks of dying during childbirth FOR FREE, non gratis, simply because she is a wife.
But you will gladly pay for such services as long as those who render such services are not legally married to you.
What every woman needs to bring to the table is her readiness to keep and manage your home businesses, to cook, clean, carry your babies, care for your babies and copulate with you and be your companion.
She can then secure a job or you help her to set up a small business that frees her to perform her homely duties well.
Pressuring your wife to work from 7 am to 7 pm like you do will expose your home front and your children to serious societal ills and social dysfunctions.
I know a lady that used to be abandoned by parents and granny. A lesbian neighbour began to have lesbian sex with her EVERYDAY from age 5 till when she turned 15, when they moved away from the place.
So, let's STOP harrasing our females. They're our grannies, mothers, wives, sisters, cousins, nieces and daughters.
We should rather love, care for them and protect them. But we should not spoil them by always granting their entitlement mentality.
The simple solution is: LEAVE WOMEN ALONE UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO CATER FOR THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN.
No man who cannot control himself, who always needs to fornicate with women to quench his urge for sex should complain when the women demand that he provides for their financial needs.
Shalom.

You are stupid, maybe you are 19 Years and Nigerian girls never do you something.

Quest05:
I reli support you on dis. Women are helpers since from creation as seen in the Bible. When God sent Adam and eve out of the garden , Adams punishment was to til the ground be4 he gets food. God for don say both of dem will til soil. Her punishment was pain during child bearing

stfu, The fucking biblical myth is not real.
Why do we hardly find ladies with working Brain in this country?

The moment I stepped into Europe, I realized how braindead must Nigerian ladies are. Gold diggers with no single self-esteem, no value. Always looking for a rich guy to leech on. They can't offer anything aside their smelling pussy.
Cheap and lazy girls too full Nigeria

lahizak:
Lol. Only idiots will argue with this. If u agree to take care of the house 100%, do chores,cook, wash and take care of the kids, ur hubby will provide 100%. But d wahala started when u girls started saying u are not slaves and can't do all the work and cooking

let's kuku turn her to bronze age wife or house girl. Be like say your own mumu pass that of Op.

The Adam and Eve story never happened to start with.
And yes, you got to bring something to the table else you become a intimacy gadget.

Sammie0000:
First of all "Averagely" is not a word, secondly please supply us with actual statistics. which board carried out a survey and came up with this conclusion?

this dude knows english better than Cambridge. Lol

And if you want data, carefully go through the thread

The Bible is
a. Is a book written long after the characters were dead.
with zero Supportive evidence
b. Narrates event of massive doses of pure magic that only works with a character that has the power to not bend but absolutely break laws of nature and physics
c. often with zero evidence of the events happening to test.


let there be light
a. the idea that a omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent loving caring god create such a disorganized mess of a universe is completely bonkers.
b. that he created the universe with the sole purpose of creating human life is even more far fetched…
c. every galaxy has the billions of stars each one capable of having 1 or more planets within what we call the sweet spot and even some outside of it with the potential for some kind of life. The odds are astronomically (to use the exact term) stacked against the idea that earth is the only planet with life or even intelligent life.
d. Not only that but with all the many billions of species just on the earth scientist speculate we have only discovered 1/3 of all the species on earth.
e. With all of that the bible poses the claim god made the earth just for humans for this massive social experiment to see if each individual is worthy of heaven.

Eden
a. The idea that god created a construct ideal place where “lion lay with lamb” where animals disregard biological programming is ridiculous.
God supposedly creates humans in the image of himself
The first being Adam
b. Then takes Adam’s rib and creates eve the first woman
This makes eve Adam’s sister clone.
Then god tells them not to eat this special fruit.
Eve cons Adam into eating it with the help of a serpent
They are both cast out of Eden and told to “go forth and multiply.”
Basically, telling Adam to have sex with himself and have children
They could not sustainably reproduce at all let alone start the human race.
Not to mention ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF EVOLUTION

Give evidence a chance

elated177:
How do you suppose the supernatural be tested?

We can test the statistical significance of miracles on sick samples in hospitals.
It has been done anyways and turns out that miracles are not real

Ken4Christ:
I have been poisoned so many times but I am still alive. I am a super human and Jesus made me so. The life you have is an ordinary human life. Besides, I see certain things before they happen. This makes me supernatural. You are living a low life. Come to Jesus and embrace a higher life.

Taste and see that this life is real. You don't know how sweet a food is until you eat it.

OK Ken, I won't be part of that. I don't want to get arrested for murder Ken

waldigit:
What you desire is the truth. Alas , evidence can't deliver the truth to you. Why? Humans has limitation. Instrument, devices has limitation. Pie 22/7 on a super computer is a mere approximation. Let me ask you how much of the design capacity of your brain can you ever use in your life time?
If you rely on evidence man and his instrument can offer you to know the truth, you may be getting ready for unpleasant surprises.
What is revealed is for man, what is not, is for God.

The limitation of humans is not evidence for your God.

That's called fallacy of appealing to ignorance. Because we don't know it yet is not an excuse to fill the gap with your God.

We believe in evidence. Again, if It cannot be tested then it can't be trusted.

Billingslord:
stop being an ignorant,Lagos is building its own port same as awka ibom.
tell onistha or whatsoever to build their own too.

My bad, I get it now. You are correct

Sammy07:
So what are they building in Lekki?

Overhead bridge?

Dangote is building a port in lagos, Lagos is not building a port.

They are two different things dude

Sammy07:
Lagos/Akwaibom are building her own ports.

Tell delta/rivers states to do the same

.

Nope, it's not. It's a selfish reasoning.

Opening up other ports in Port Harcourt, warri, calabar and river port in Onitsha is the final solution if they are operated modestly.

This will only worsen traffic situation in Lekki/Ajah axis which is already deplorable

There's no evidence that rituals gives money

OlawaleBammie:
fairytales, lol

Lemme tell u something, i have trust issues, my father calls me thomas cus he knows i dont use to bliv tins not until i see it mysef.

So i saw many tins concerning juju, I'm not obligated to convince u, either u re convinced or not wont add penny to my account sir. Shalom

Then shift, let people who have evidence comment.

You can go tell your kids all the fairytales in your head. We think critically and demand for evidence here

waldigit:
Christians are people who do not see yet believe. They believe something they can't see. This is because they use the sense that is not physical. Nicolas Tesla was in that spirit when he said science would achieve more if they can start studying non physical phenomenon.
But if a man certified dead clinically came back life, I am not ashamed to believe his testimony.

Its okay if you believe it, what's not okay is expecting people to believe you without evidence.

Nobody will show you any evidence. They will find a way to insult you and distract you from showing you evidence

OlawaleBammie:
How old are u??

Even in the bible there were juju men

Dem never knack u akpako before, u never see where juju dey, which work are u into?? Stop saying rubbish ogbeni.


A man who is a driver in a warehouse i supplies to went to Lagos, there was heated argument between him and some area boys, before he knows wat was happening one of the boys raised matchet and placed it on his hand two tyms with the aim if cutting the hand. But the hand only swell for few seconds and went back to normal but there was little traces of cutlass, so wat do u call dat?

Wen modakeke and ife ws fighting, a family man put his wife and children in an egg and kept it somewhere, what would u call that

Even ur oyinbo who u re licking his ass believe in sorccery and wizardry, wat would u call dat?

U dey ment.

just give him verifiable evidence.
Grow up dude, stop believing fairytales

suicidesheep:
Exactly like me. I wish I had more people like u in my life. I'd love to have meaningful discussions with you

I can add you to a whatsapp heathen group for Lagos residents.

We also hangout sometimes

elated177:
As much as you are willing to share.

Well, I'm an empiricist and skeptic hence the reason I'm an Agnostic atheist.
I also question alot of stuffs outside of religion. There's never going to be a time I will accept whatever anyone says without an evidence for me to test

waldigit:
Teach me pls.

It's simple, If I claim that I can fly, for you to believe it, I have to fly. I don't ask you to prove that i cannot fly.

If I say that I have a drug that can cure HIV, I don't tell you to prove to me that the drug cannot cure HIV. I get to work to prove it with testable evidence. I would probably get HIV patients to participate in a study. Not just HIV patients but it has to be enough sample size like 100 people. I will test the drug on them repeatedly, if the result is the same everytime or almost everytime I test it then that is evidence that the drug cures HIV. If I test it on 100 patients and only 30 is cured, there's still no statistically significant evidence that the drug can cure HIV because that's just 30%. More research needs to be done in this regard.


If you make a claim that miracles are real, how can we test it and give us repeatable and testable results. Can we go to hospital to test it on large enough sample size and deduce a statistical significant repeatable results? If no, then that claim cannot be said to be a fact.

This is why we don't take anything Christians say seriously, they cannot be tested hence cannot be trusted.