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Epeegee:
Sorry o Mr fully baked idiot

I no get time for argument

How can an educated person still reason like a village merchant?

What's the purpose of even sending people like you to school if you are still going to accept your grandfather's myths?
Illiterate

Epeegee:
Mumu preach to yourself and those that need your stupid preaching


Go to your village and ask your grandfather how it's done,


If you quote me again,you no go die better

you sound like a typical half-baked Nigerian graduate who hasn't been properly educated in critical reasoning and evidence gathering.

Shame on you if you hold archaic myths without evidence

endallinfection:
Money Ritual is Real ...Whether you believe it or Not ...It's nothing to be argued about .It has nothing to do with Academics , Civilization , Science ,Indomie Generational believe , It's far far from Table theory..it's mystical ,So Spiritual ...Life and Direct at Owode Town ,A man called an Akope was Missing for several years , He was found in a Secluded room in a house belongings to one Man Called Ogboye who is into Cars Fayawo in Owode idiroko Area .The man was seen carrying a Spiritual Calabash,Once his name is Mentioned ,Money Flows into the room from nowhere ..Go to Owode and ask about the Occurrence ..It's True...Money Ritual is real ,if it isn't working for some, that doesn't mean it's not real..I hate it ,it's wrong ,It's evil but for anyone to blindly say it's not real is Absolutely wrong

money rituals is fake.
get some working brain and drop that unsubstantiated myth

NeonDee:
You're foolish

I think you are the foolish person

Dliquidmetal:
This theists matter don tire me workch how are you able to deal with these people? I mean its very frustrating to converse with them omooo I wonder how you can do that without getting mad.
I'm trying to be as patient as Richard Dawkins in his debates lol but honestly these people aren't logical one bit,see claims everywhere without evidence(s) to back them up and they want rational folks to swallow it so we can as well sink into their delusion
Workch:prove the existence of God to me
Theists: The air you breathe is evident of the existence of God....wtf?
I might as well say the air i breathe is the evidence of the existence of a unicorn and they also have to believe it because I also have no evidence but I believe it exists,these people don't know how delusional they actually sound

I just ask for evidence then they start ranting.

They don't like the word "evidence"

efficiencie:
1. Fine tuning of the cosmos

It's not evidence that God exist, the universe is not fine tuned.

2. Evidence of design in nature (related to evidence 1)

There's no evidence for design. The evidence says things took time while forming. We have observed stars and planers form, thanks to hubble telescope. We didn't see anything designing it.
We have observed evidence that it took years for living organisms to form. Nothing like creation or design

3. Structured information (e.g the DNA)

We knowhow DNA formed. It's not a debate in science. There's no God involved jn the formation of DNA. As a matter of fact, this is my area of specialty, I can educate you more on it.

×4. The comprehensibility of the universe

The universe is not comprehensive, even if it was, it's still not an evidence for god that can be testable.

5. Successful mathematical modeling of natural phenomena (like the appearance of the fibonacci sequence in flowers, sea shells etc) [

I am wondering why you think this is any sort of evidence. Do you need a starter pack on how evidence work?

6. Reports of supernatural phenomena

there are not evidence that those supernatural phenomena ever occurred. Only claims

7. Origin of something from nothing.

Then where did God originated from. If you say he didn't originate from anything then why can't the universe?

These seven points tell me that it would be stupid to believe there isn't a supremely intelligent being somewhere, known as God!

Your 7 points proves that you lack proper understanding of what evidence is. You however, presented flawed philosophical arguemts.

Your point number 7 will force you to commit a fallacy of special pleading because you will end up saying your God is the uncaused cause thereby braking your own law of nothing comes from nothing

efficiencie:
There are a couple of things you believe without seeing the evidence for yourself. You probably believe in evolution because scientific materialists say so not because you have seen the evidence. You probably believe the observable universe is some 13 billion years old because some astrophysicist says so not because you have seen the evidence for yourself. You probably believe that the Mathematical enterprise is well founded because you were told so but I can guess you haven't heard of Godel's theorem of incompleteness. I can go on and on. Why do you think you have the moral high ground to criticize those who believe in the supernatural (this is at the core of most major religions) without necessarily seeing repeated, testable and verifiable evidence for it when you take the words of scientists and materialists at the face value without seeing the evidence?

I dont believe anything without seeing the evidence. I can see the evidence for big bang.
I can see the evidence that the universe is atleast 13.8billion years. The evidence is all over the internet if you care you search for it and it's testable.
Your statement is wrong.
you attempted to commit a fallacy of whataboutism as well

Policeman: “I believe that you committed a crime at some point.”

Suspect: “I dont agree. Prove it”

Policeman: “No, you prove that you didn't”

Suspect: “How can I prove that I didn't do something that you haven't defined?”

Policeman: “ah, so you did do it - guilty as charged!”

Version 2

Policeman: “I believe that on the 12th January 2022, you held up the bank at 15 High Street”

Suspect: “Prove it”

Policeman: “ Here's the CCTV showing your face. Here's a video of you running to your car and here are your fingerprints on the sack of cash”

Suspect: “ OK fair cop.”

What's the difference?

In Version 2 the person making the claim has that tricksy thing called evidence to support his claim.

2000+ years and we're still waiting for that evidence.

Tokskob2008:
God is not listening to me yet so I'm confused..

There's no evidence that God exist

elated177:
You will continue to wail in frustration. I will not give something sacred to dogs.

I was never going to deny the existence of miracles because of the activities of charlatans out there.

I think you have started aggression because you cannot substantiate your belief system.
It's typical for anyone who has cognitive dissonance immediately resort to insults.
Jusy show us the evidence that your God exist.

jcross19:
ahahaha which crime? Have you been to china before? Huh chines that caged all their journalists and determined the news they released on fail basis!

Yes I have been to China sir

jcross19:
China? Chinese are most inhumane in the world , very wicked people!!! You can see how they are treating Nigerians working under them in Nigeria, even Ghanaians wikk testifies about their hideous evil..

They have lower crime rate that most African countries.
You can't argue with data

elated177:
The evidences that I have are sufficient for me.
I just don't to throw pearls to pigs.

You don't have evidence, because it cannot be tested. You only have delusions and mirages.
It's not evidence if a third party cannot test it

MindHacker9000:
You are the one with very poor data analytics skills.

For your information it should be [data analytics skills] and not "data analytics skill". You cannot even get your expresion right and you want to delve into data analytics you have no clue about.

Your data doesn't give account of samples from all over the world.
It only gave account of samples from united States.
How come your reached a conclusion from that?
Again, you have poor analytical skill

jcross19:
where enormous immoralities and crimes because you can't tell me that Chinese are atheist !!!

Immorality by your own standard.
They are still well behaved than an average African who's a hypocrite

OLAADEGBU:
cbnnews

It's true as this will happen in mostly Africa and South American poor countries with lesser exposure and education hence very higher birthrate.
However, atheism in growing faster than Christianity in developed climes where birthrate is low.

Christianity is dying in the west

Ken4Christ:
There are of course poor Christians. But as they grow up in knowledge, they will become rich over time.

Just give your life to Christ. Eternity is real. You can't escape Jesus. You either receive him as your Lord or meet him as your judge.

You are making numerous claims but evidence seem to say otherwise.

Your God is not real. You can't force people to accept it unless you demonstrate with evidence

1. Religion and religious people have the propensity to hijack state laws and replace them with their religious laws. Challenging relgion keeps this in check.
Although we are currently seeing this in the north with Sharia laws being institutionalized.

2. Religion slows the flow of critical reasoning that leads to progress. This is because religion is often conservative hence will always prefer to maintain status quo. It's immune to change, even progressive changes.
Example is with vaccination.

3. Religion is invasive. It doesn't tolerate differences, it thinks its opinon is the ultimate whether or not evidence supports it. Anything that doesn't promote verification of claims should be challenged because such institution if given a chance then it could be a free for all.
Imagine if everything we have achieved as humans was only based on just claims without evidence? Can we even achieve anything?

mike404:
EVEN THE TRADITIONAL WORSHIPPERS ARE AGAINST SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHY A SINGLE FEMALE STUDENT SHOULD BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE WHEN WE ARE NOT IN THE WESTERN WORLD

BIBLE, QURAN AND AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION (ATR) FORBIDS SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE

Don't bring your religious tenets here. Fanatic
The state law is not your religious laws

elated177:
Good. You aren't searching for the Truth.

You are person who believes what you cannot provide evidence for. That's dogmatism

Don't you feel someone believing something you cannot demonstrate with evidence?

elated177:
You are not getting any.

OK

elated177:
You are not getting any. You are like Reed.

There's no evidence that God exist.
If he does then I need one I can test, test it and make sure it's your own personal God

MindHacker9000:
And from your thinking, you think everyone in America is a billionaire, so 2% of the population cannot make up 50% of the billionaires.

Anyway my original comment was not to discuss about the Jews, it was a deviation from my original comment.

What your sample size proves is that Jews are by percentage size one of the richest tribes in U. S.
IT is NOT EVIDENCE THEY THAT THEY ARE THE RICHEST IN THE WORLD.
You have to bring in all data from all jews around the world and then compare them to other tribes to be able to reach that conclusion.


Your sample size is too poor to reach that conclusions. You have poor data analytics skill

MindHacker9000:
If 50% of the billionaires in America are from a race in Africa that make up about 2% of the popupolation does that not tell you that race are the riches in the world.
You just like to argue over what you know nothing about.

Your sample size doesn't make sense.
Think

elated177:
What kind of evidence?

Evidence is evidence. It should be testable.
Theres no kind of evidence

MindHacker9000:
You just want to argue for no reason.

don't make baseless statements then

MindHacker9000:
Ok how about this:
How come 50% of billionaires in the USA are Jewish, when Jewish people only make up 1.4% of the population?
https://www.quora.com/How-come-50-of-billionaires-in-the-USA-are-Jewish-when-Jewish-people-only-make-up-1-4-of-population

this is not evidence for your claim that Jewish people are thr richest in the world. let me give you an example, because Nigeria has some of the richest people in Africa doesn't mean that Nigerains are the richest in Africa.

I really do not know how relgious people reason I swear. And by the way, your reference is not credible one. Quora is like a u.s based nairaland where people posy whatever they like

Ken4Christ:
He does of course. Jesus is the Prince of Peace. The chaos we are experiencing some part of the world today is because they rejected Christ.

There is no peace in most homes today because Jesus is not the center of their lives.

The kind of peace Jesus gives is peace that guards your heart and mind even in the midst of the storms of life.

Nigerian Christians dont have peace of mind and they are mostly poor.
This is what evidence provides

elated177:
Miracles are as real as the oxygen we inhale.

Well, you have any evidence?

Corrections:
Many of us only care about our prayers being answered with less concern about whether we asked for the best thing from God or not.
In the kingdom of God there are levels or ranks of position of things or people.

Matthew 5:17-37
Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be considered least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever obeys and teaches these commandments will be called greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

1 Corinthians3:13-14
…each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward" (1 Corinthians 3:13-14 ESV).

2 Corinthians 5:10
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil"

These bible passages are pointers to a fact that God gives out things (positive ) to people on bases of levels which could be either GOOD, BETTER and BEST but the least is a pass mark. God also leaves us with a choice to choose among the ranks of blessing he has for us whether is good, better or best.

This played out when solomon offered a great sacrifice unto God and God asked him to ask for a reward he wanted in return. Since it was God that was going to bless solomon from his store house of blessing even the least ofGods blessing s is certified O.K

1king 3:11

11 So God said to him, "Since you have asked for this and not for long life or wealth for yourself, nor have asked for the death of your enemies but for discernment in administering justice,
12 I will do what you have asked. I will give you a wise and discerning heart, so that there will never have been anyone like you, nor will there ever be.
13 Moreover, I will give you what you have not asked for--both riches and honor--so that in your lifetime you will have no equal among kings.

If solomon had asked directly for Riches or that his enemies should be destroyed in battle does not mean he asked WRONGLY or that God will not give them to solomon instead would had meant that he didn't ask for the in BEST thing. If Solomon request from God was all about wealth or Riches his prayer request would had been graded to be in the level of GOOD or BETTER but certainly not the BEST .

Jesus the son of God and the Messiah of the world understands the mind of God perfectly. Jesus always asked and received the best from God by asking for God's WILL ( anything that will give God glory , please God or make God happy according to how God wants it ) which guarantees only the best. If Jesus relied on his own instinct alone he would had probably gotten the GOOD or BETTER rank of results rather he goes for the BEST results by asking for God's own special choice that guarantees the BEST.

Prob 3:5-6
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight. ( BEST )

Psalm 32:8
LORD says, “I will guide you along the BEST pathway for your life. I will advise you and watch over you.

Human intelligence can never get to or equal to God's BEST just as like stated in the bible passages in above. Daniel or solomon whose education background or priesthood training was 1 class couldn't do much NOT until GOD'S BEST started raining on them.

It was BEST for Jesus to have died on the cross for the people's sin to be cleaned but if God had answered Jesus prayer not to die ( evident in his prayer request to God ) it would had been O.k but certainly not had been the BEST option hence Jesus had to go for the BEST which can only be found in doing GOD'S WILL.

There is reward in everything ...BEST is higher than better.... BETTER is higher than good and GOOD is higher than BAD Jesus revealed to us how to ask from God so when next you ask God in prayer for that special desire see to it to know if you are praying right / BEST.




HOW TO CONNECT TO GOD

John14:6
Jesus told him ' I am the way-
Yes, and the truth and the life. No one can GET to the father (GOD) except by means of me (JESUS ).

John14:1
Let not your heart be troubled. You are trust in God now trust in me ( JESUS ).


John15:23
Anyone that is hating me ( JESUS )
is hating the father (GOD)

Colossian 2: 10
So you have everything when you have christ and you are filled with GOD through your union with CHRIST. He is the highest RULER, with authority over every other power

There's no evidence that God exist and that's why prayers don't work