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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 4:07pm On Aug 24, 2021
A001:
Well said. Also, one of the most effective ways to fight depression is to be social.

I think that helps a lot. From personal experience, I know that being a loner worsens depression.
Well, I have always been a loner. I am use to being a loner though I spend a lot of time watching science documentaries and reading scientific articles.
That’s helps me get rid of depression.

I also follow several religious platforms on social media to study how they reason.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 4:03pm On Aug 24, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Bros nobody knows enough to be an atheist. Infact you know almost NOTHING. At least religionists say they BELIEVE, they don't say they logically know. Here's what I wrote above:

If you start with the premise that we don't know, and have no way of knowing, the true nature of reality (which is the only reasonable place to start), then ANYTHING is possible. Nothing can be known for certain - everything is based on preponderance of evidence. So, you are being mischievous selectively asking for absolute proof only when it concerns "spiritual", when there is no absolute proof for anything. Even things we were sure of have been proved wrong. Until quantum mechanics we thought the LAWS of physics always applied. Even "I think therefore I am" that was sacrosanct for millenia has been proved to be wrong!
Atheism is not a disbelieve in the existence of god, it’s a act of belief that gods dont exist because religious people haven’t provided evidence and are trying to fill every gap with their gods. If you provide evidence then I will change my mind.

No one also knows enough to be sure that god exist. Every religion only tries to create unquestionable answers for the questions. It’s better to have question that cannot be answered that provide answers that cannot be questioned like religion does.

We don’t know so don’t fill the gap with god. Wait until we find out. I am an atheist because there’s no evidence that it exist, if I see one I will change my mind immediately.


I see that you don’t understand quantum physics else I don’t see how quantum physics has disobeyed laws of physics. You need to read up abit on how quantum physics works.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:58pm On Aug 24, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Bros, if you start with the premise that we don't know, and have no way of knowing the true nature of reality (which is the only reasonable place to start), then ANYTHING is possible. Nothing can be known for certain - everything is based on preponderance of evidence. So, you are being mischievous selectively asking for absolute proof only when it concerns "spiritual", when there is no absolute proof for anything. Even things we were sure of have been proved wrong. Until quantum mechanics we thought the LAWS of physics always applied. Even "I think therefore I am" that was sacrosanct for millenia has been proved to be wrong!
your argument is fallacious, it’s called a Tu quoque fallacy, because a lot of stuffs hasn’t been proven doesn’t not mean spirituality is correct. There’s no invention in science and technology today that is not a product of a proven scientific law or theory.
Religion hasn’t proven anything in regard to spirituality. You can’t disprove what hasn’t been proven.

A lot of thing have been proven and that why stuffs work. Your internet connection cannot work is electromagnetic spectrum hasn’t been proven. You can’t even make phone if various scientific theories and laws have not been proven, stop being economical with the truth and just accept that you have to provide evidence for your claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:49pm On Aug 24, 2021
blahc007:
You don't start learning by showing you know already...ask humbly

To the question...
Spirits acts...though you can't see them, but you know them by there actions.
I have witnessed the supernatural happen...no be say Dem say...that's why I said God's existence is no longer theoritical, it's very practical bro...
So is the existence of other spirits...
If you have witnessed the supernatural happen, why can’t you apply to win the bounties for anyone that can provide evidence for any paranormal activity?

It’s been there for ages and no one has been able to win any of them. I can share some of the links with you if you care, it would make you a multimillionaire in dollars.

Don’t you think you are just making them up in your head?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:47pm On Aug 24, 2021
FreeIgboho:
But becoming an atheist, though comforting, makes u a close minded person. It takes away the most Important and most fundamental stetement: "I may be wrong".
As I wrote above: We don't know, and have no way of knowing the true nature of reality. And what we know is likely not up to a millionth of what there is to know
I am not close minded.
If you provide a testable evidence for any god, I will change my mind.
People become atheist because religion never gives evidence for whatever they say.

It is religion that is close minded and dogmatic not atheism. It takes a lot of courage to drop whatever you have indoctrinated with form birth, dogmatic people rarely do that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:41pm On Aug 24, 2021
Hismasterpiece:
when you atheists say evidence what do you mean?
Evidence has a universal definition. Religious people twerk it because they don’t seem to have any of it for their claim.

Evidence has to be testable and repeatable, anywhere and anytime under a controlled condition. Miracles are not evidence, they cannot produce repeatable results at any given time and anywhere. A lot of probabilities, lies, exaggerations and bias are attached to it. Such premises cannot be trusted.

Your god cannot be tested and that’s why we have several gods, everyone come up with whatever they like. Even within the Christendom, we have conflicting ideologies in doctrines. None of you guys seem to have a specific method to test whatever you claim and everyone just want to be right.

Outside of Christianity, no religion want to provide a generally accepted method to test their god. Testing it to provide reproduce-able results. Everyone just say whatever makes them happy and most times it conflicts.

This is why I am an atheist, I trust repeatable results than infallible claims that can’t be tested. You will likely make mistake if you always do not test whatever you believe multiple times under a controlled condition to see if it really works or it’s just probabilities.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:34pm On Aug 24, 2021
triplechoice:
You're sounding like a religious person or still think like one.

You cannot claim to be mentally free when you're dogmatically invested in a particular ideology .

The atheistic position is an ideology of its own and it has its limitations.. It is not a perfect position.

Atheist have their own worries too. We know they are prone to depression. That is not to say the religious are not . Everyone is. But for the Atheist, when it happens, it usually end in suicide or a life of continual dependence on antidepressants to maintain sanity. The figures are out there if you want to confirm.

It is not common for the deeply religious to have this problem. They rely on an external agency (imaginary or not) which has been demonstrated to provide psychological relief more better than any antidepressants .

Believing in a god in times of trouble can
provide psychological relief and help to remove from one's mind the weight of the burden worries place on it.

Please don't misled people by making promises which are not tenable so they can join your "religion" .It is why I already said you still think like a religious person. Understand first , what you're into before asking others to join you.

Concerning scamming by pastors, everyone can be scammed. Religious people are not the only ones that can be scammed. We can easily see others being scammed and mock them and not when we ourselves are being scammed.

A scammer takes advantage of your ignorance to scam you and you, yourself ,are ignorant of so many things .So you're still susceptible.



And again,non of us can act or think completely free of bias. As long as you hold on to a particular viewpoint, you cannot help it. Your biases would reveal itself, at some point, without you realising it. So don't boast.

Finally, atheism is not synonymous with courage. There are courageous religious people who "courageously" defend their faith.

Most people
becoming atheist these days, are yet to fully understand the atheistic position and what it entails. The allure of personal freedom is what is pushing most into it. Which is a good thing.

But freedom comes with certain responsibility. Are you ready?
its okay if you redefine stuffs to justify your improbable opinions.

Atheism is fueled by lack of evidence that a god exist. Provide a testable evidence and I will change my mind.

Dogmatism is the act of holding onto unsubstantiated beliefs even in the light of evidence against it. That’s what you do and every other religious person.


If it doesn’t have evidence and cannot be proven, I can never believe it. I will change my mind if I see testable evidence sir.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:31pm On Aug 24, 2021
A001:
How do you handle depression as an atheist, especially during the times of illness/sickness, financial struggle, and when living alone at such times?
I am aware of the the fact that life is all about permutations and combinations. I have realized that it’s impossible for everyone to feel good at any point in time.
I take the good side of the principle of Darwinism to look at life and handle situations. I learn to adapt to whatever environment I find myself knowing fully well that if I don’t, I will die.
I take a cue form nature, whether or not I like it, nature does it’s thing and because I am a cautious being I have the ability to cheat nature a bit in my favour and then I go for it. I don’t ascribe my hard times to a spiritual being.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 3:27pm On Aug 24, 2021
Hismasterpiece:
All the things you said are synonymous with Christianity.. Are you personally opposed to Christianity alone or spirituality in general?
you are scared of a sky lord watching whatever you do. He prepared a Hell for you if you don’t love him or do wherever he says, that’s mental slavery.

I don’t think such person exist
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 7:33am On Aug 24, 2021
Becoming an atheist frees your from mental slavery.
I am mentally free from stuffs like
1. Village people.
2. Hell or heaven.
3. Threat of curse
4. Scams from pastors.

I also see clearer from a practical point of view without bias. I am free from cognitive dissonance. I laugh when people talk about spiritual things as there are no evidence to measure their existence.

Atheism makes you a mentally free person, not a lot of people have the courage to become atheist.

There are other huge benefits
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by Workch: 7:29am On Aug 24, 2021
blahc007:
The existence of God shouldn't be argued with theory...
It should be more of practical...and it has been more of practicals.
God exist, spirits exist, demons exist...
But they interfare with the affairs of men when they are invited, knowingly or ignorantly.
you are not making sense.

How can I practically measure the existence of spirits?
Politics › Re: Court Orders Resident Doctors To Suspend Strike by Workch: 9:44pm On Aug 23, 2021
NIJJAking:
Repent now of your sinful evil ways to avoid spending your eternity in hell fire after you die. Jesus Christ love and warns you to repent and convert now to Christianity to avoid hell fire. Only Jesus Christ can save you by his death on the cross and his blood which washes away your sins, any other ways ( Islam, paganism, Hinduism, atheism, etc) can not save you. Be wise while you still have the chance accept Jesus Christ now and save your soul from hell. Be wiser than Satan and follow the one true God. This is the eternal truth from the spiritual realm.
you are a mad person
Crime › Re: Twin Pastors, Sonaike Taiye & Kehind Rape & Impregnate 12-Year-Old Girl In Lagos by Workch: 8:41pm On Aug 21, 2021
miketayo:
I don't know why you guys don't get it. The pastor didn't do that to please God or in the name of God or in order to make heaven or back it up with d Bible. Terrorist kill people in the name of Allah and are convinced they r fighting a holy war. There is a huge difference
Religion remains a scam.
All of you are deceiving yourselves there
Crime › Re: Twin Pastors, Sonaike Taiye & Kehind Rape & Impregnate 12-Year-Old Girl In Lagos by Workch: 8:39pm On Aug 21, 2021
Their followers will tell us not to touch God’s anointed. Werey people
Sports › Re: Nominees Revealed For 2020/21 UEFA Player Of The Year Awards by Workch: 9:30am On Aug 20, 2021
Mccullum:
I think you're mature for constructive talk, so it has gone to the level of abuse?. hnmm.
they are trying to correct you and you are still arguing blindly
Christianity Etc › Re: King Solomon Was A Black Man...biblical Facts. by Workch: 3:43am On Aug 20, 2021
The Bible is not where you should be looking for facts
Christianity Etc › Re: Help, At 35 No Bearing Yet!!! by Workch: 10:27pm On Aug 19, 2021
Kandeed:
Be reasonable for once in your life and read before you quote people
I don’t tolerate religious zealots and their shrinking brains, if you don’t Avoid me, I will dent that prokaryotic religious brain if yours.

People with the brain of maggots, always acting like they are still living in the Stone Age
Christianity Etc › Re: Help, At 35 No Bearing Yet!!! by Workch: 10:21pm On Aug 19, 2021
WeNoGoDie:
This here should be your pride and you want to make it look like a thing for perverts to ridicule.
what pride?

Are you religious zealots insane?
Christianity Etc › Re: Help, At 35 No Bearing Yet!!! by Workch: 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2021
Kandeed:
Well ion want it to seem as tho I'm talking against the Church but if at this age and time ur still following Deeper life's marriage committee doctrine then ur making a mistake. as far as I'm concerned the committee has been giving lotta members problem and Pst Kumuyi said he'll scrap it if it continues to cause problem and division in the church but the truth is, their system can't change. well to me the marriage committee makes you understand ur wife after the marriage which is why a 2months wedding will look like a 20years old marriage
you are sick. Then let them ruin your life na.

Reubbish
Christianity Etc › Re: Help, At 35 No Bearing Yet!!! by Workch: 10:10pm On Aug 19, 2021
You are mad. Sincerely
Sports › Re: Nominees Revealed For 2020/21 UEFA Player Of The Year Awards by Workch: 9:59pm On Aug 19, 2021
Mccullum:
Go and read the criterion use to rate the players in UEFA... thanks.
you are naive, shey South American coaches vote ni?

Abi Nigerian coach and captain vote?

Why Ronaldo fans no get sense like this? angry
Sports › Re: Nominees Revealed For 2020/21 UEFA Player Of The Year Awards by Workch: 8:35pm On Aug 19, 2021
Kingcalls:
Hahahhahahhah... told them...them no hear....messi minions and their 7th balon dor loading committee..... grin grin grin...ojeemah abi ojeenjo... paulolee, Numerouno94, ThierryJay....this is for u grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Messi will win the ballon Dor.
This is for Europe and is this way cos Euros was held this year
No use heartache kill yourself
Romance › Re: Before You Cut Off That Friendship. by Workch: 12:04pm On Aug 19, 2021
You have to cut off some people to succeed in life, don’t live a life of delusion.

This is just motivational speech I swear, it only works on paper.
Christianity Etc › Re: Presumptuous Sins. by Workch: 9:07pm On Aug 18, 2021
TooLateToFail:
It is a Sin..when you read your Bible..how do you read it? Read it with the Help of the Holy Spirit. Masturbation is pervasion..a deviation from what is expected..sexual pleasure between man and woman..not even between man and another man (homosexuality) , woman and woman ( lesbianism) or with an object or other means ( masturbation.)
Thats your religious opinion.
Mastrubation is not a sin outside of Christianity.

Make una stop to tell us what to do. Your Bible is a book of fallacies that can not dictate how I live my life.

Do your religion and stop telling people how to live
Travel › Re: How To Travel From Lagos To Benin Republic by Workch: 9:06pm On Aug 18, 2021
Temitopex:
Thank you. You also shouldn't take offense when I tell you you're one of those who haven't seen a border before.
Nonsense.
Christianity Etc › Re: Presumptuous Sins. by Workch: 8:47pm On Aug 18, 2021
Masturbation is not a sin.

Christians should stop telling us how to live our lives. What a bleeped up religion
Travel › Re: How To Travel From Lagos To Benin Republic by Workch: 8:44pm On Aug 18, 2021
Temitopex:
I'm sorry but it is obvious you haven't been there, and it's sad on how people criticize Togo and benin republic because of their names. Those countries are way better than today's Nigeria. Take it or leave it.
Rubbish
Christianity Etc › Re: Masturbation Is Killing Me by Workch: 8:22am On Aug 17, 2021
Bluewitch:
Apart from the addiction, what makes it feel bad is because of people's religious inclinations
Thank God I don’t believe in God.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Afghan Stowaways Fall To Death After Clinging To Plane (Pics, Video) by Workch: 9:39pm On Aug 16, 2021
Righteousness2:
These guys are not running away because they feel like Exercising or they wanna go on Picnic or holiday.
They are running away because they understand what many of us do not understand.

The World is Preparing to enter into a time JESUS Christ Described as "Great tribulation", such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time.

In these Endtimes, If u place your trust on man, Country, technology or Super Power, you will end up disappointed. If you Place on anything other than JESUS Christ , you will be messed up.

Anymoment, Anyday now, JESUS will snatch HIS People out of this world.
Do not Joke with these things. Sort out the Matter of your salvation with JESUS Christ.
There is no more time.
you are obviously a mad person
Christianity Etc › Re: Masturbation Is Killing Me by Workch: 5:17pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nothing wrong with masturbation unless the addiction part.

I also masturbate dude, Say like once in 3months. If you get yourself busy, you won’t think about masturbation. It’s not a tall order to leave if you want to but I like it, I don’t want to leave it. I can if I want to.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Child Who Died At Age 9, Will Remain 9 Forever In Heaven. Let Us Discuss by Workch: 5:12pm On Aug 16, 2021
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Child Who Died At Age 9, Will Remain 9 Forever In Heaven. Let Us Discuss by Workch:
CodeTemplar:
And what was he talking about?
Albert Einstein did not say that time is not constant, Albert Einstein said your perception of time is an illusion. Time as Albert Einstein demonstrated is not a period but another dimension which is now known as they 4th dimension. He called the combination the spacetime continuum.

It’s totally different from what 2 Peter 3:1 is talking about.

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