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Bring it on. "Ya wa" will definitely "ti de"

All hope is lost. But I will keep on emphasizing my points:


This fits the S.I.N. syndrome I posted on just recently: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-633325.0.html

for the umpteenth time, that site is not mine: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-629800.0.html#msg7994927

Just in case:

Have you read the payment policy? I ask this because, I believe they process stuff on certain days of the month. Of course, if you have been receiving your money on a regular basis and this is an anomaly, I would contact them.

good luck!

@Jango:
I have no idea what I started, or didn't start.

This fits the S.I.N. syndrome I posted on just recently: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-633325.0.html

for the umpteenth time, that site is not mine: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-629800.0.html#msg7994927

I think you have a great site. keep up the good work. However, please ignore the advice of YAWATIDE! i.e.

Same links in footer and top navigation. MRS YAWATIDE keeps encouraging everyone to do it. Still don't know why.
Also, don't see any reason why you need "back to top" links. Even CNN does not have that.

@YAWATIDE, one day i would be patient to understand and dissect your website (, best nairaland reviewer!)

But could you just explain why your domain name leads to http://www.acewebdev.com/
and your portfolio page on the same site leads to http://www.aceminot.com/portfolio.php

It is an explanation i look forward to getting, not just me but everyone else here.

This fits the S.I.N. syndrome I posted on just recently: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-633325.0.html

for the umpteenth time, that site is not mine: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-629800.0.html#msg7994927

Now, to the main meat of the matter:

Please read what I wrote to ogzille. It is all about consistency and usability. Are you required to wipe your ass after you take a dump? No. but would it help prevent craw-craw and foul smell if you did? yes

Geez!

maybe not necessary as in, "if you don't do it, you will die" but for consistency purposes, yes it is necessary. In the absence of "back to top" links, it would be nice if you could make my life (and that of potential buyers) easier by providing the same links at the bottom so I don't have to scroll up each time

#4 Count the number of links you have in the nav area and compare that to what you have in your footer.

Hint: Unless I once again smoked some bad stuff this weekend, you are missing "testimony" at the very least.

Don't worry folks, this isn't a post on religion but a post that I think is necessary, in light of recent "discussions" I have had with a few fellow forumites.

So what is S.I.N.? Well, and I speak in general here, whenever some people can't win a debate, rather than acknowledge defeat and/or add to the debate (after all, we don't have to agree to, or believe in anything I say. we can agree to disagree), they resort to engaging in S.I.N.:

S: Shift the subject: They pretend not to have read what you wrote or heard what you say, and move to the next thing
I: Ignore the facts: Even when they have the facts in front of them, they choose to ignore the parts that would counter their argument
N: When all else fails, they resort to Name calling. This happens when they have no ammo left and at this point, frustration sets in.

This doesn't only apply to this forum but life in general. So from now on, whenever you are debating an issue with someone, be conscious of the S.I.N. syndrome and note how many of the above the people you are debating with, are found guilty of.

Aren't you all just so happy that you have learned something today?

nah, quadrillo is better than that. He graduated from toy gun long time ago. Now, he uses gun made from soap. U think say I dey lie? Oya, read am:

http://akwaibomnewsonline.com/news/index.php?url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3493963/A-jailbreak-by-a-lag-who-made-a-fake-gun-from-soap-was-foiled.html

he he

1) Phone field isn't validating properly. same with order page
2) On order page, why not give them a dropdown for make and model? What if I type it wrong or don't know?
3) Get rid of the make/model scroll at the bottom - distracting
4) Footer links don't match navigation links
5) I would consider using lighter background color

@ Jangoreal and those following his diatribe: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-627138.32.html#msg8002099

@bouzymill1

Anyways, at the end of the day, it's what works for you. so, there's nothing much to say.

My point exactly. Thanks for noting that

Am sorry if my "little advance" insulted your sensibilities, I just made that in reference to the book not reference to whom am speaking with. I must tell you at this point that I only engage in arguments that I will learn from. . . and I don't argue to display my ego level. Instead of doing that, there are tons of positive things I can use my time with. It's good you've got Progressive Enhancement locked down. I like designers who know what exactly there job is.

I am rarely offended, and especially not offended by people I have never and probably will never meet. I was just surprised at the subtle ad hominem attacks. They were uncalled for. Finally, we are having a conversation and a little battle of ideas. At least you are better than Jango"Real". Thanks for the compliments by the way. I have earned them over the years.

You're right. No doubt. The "however point' I am making in this context is compromising the one page technique for SEO is not really important, in my opinion. There are other tons of ways to achieve SEO without comprising the technique. For instance, the 'pages' are wrapped in divs on that one page and so, there's a way to return to the results pointing to the actual url of the div you searched for. for example, searching for "whatever contact" might return a search result with url "www.whatever.com/index.html#contact" . My point is you can achieve an effective SEO without neccesarily breaking them to pages and the fact that it can't work all the time; we are talking about a site here and i think it's just suitable for it. There's no much to say on the webiste.

Proof by contradiction: Do a google search on your own and see if you will get a returned result for www.whatever.com/index.html#contact with respect to that site. I can see a result set for name/value pairs but not for intra links. If you find it, I will be the first to apologize and acknowledge my mistake. Again based on my example from my last post, I don't see how effective SEO is achieved. Again, if you don't come up on at least the first page of google, your SEO campaign is a failure in my books.

I do that because it's a polite argument. We're not bunch of kids that starts fight in the next second. You're making a point and I might agree in some part and think otherwise with some parts. That's how constructive argument works (I think) and I'm not assuming you've got "simpleton mind". IT's not about who's BETTER or sort of things like that. I'm just making my point here, that's all.

Point of correction: I addressed myself, albeit satirically, as a simpleton, not you. The lower I make myself, the harder I work.

Since as you say, we aren't kids, why did you throw in the "jerk" part? Isn't that childish?

I never said it reads images. I said it would "indirectly" read it "if wrapped around, for instance "h1m h2 or whatever". I'm saying, to enhance your optimization, there are situation's where you might not be able to add "ALT or Title" (ask me why?) : I'm talking about "background images" that would be declared inside your stylesheet and not inline images. How do you make it search engine friendly? it's by writing something into its DIV in the markup. and applying the css effizy (dont know why u called it that) into the stylesheet. I'm talking about "text-indent:-9999". with that google reads that text and brings out the page where that background is in results and more effectively, it helps more in "Google or Whatever Image Search"

Lesson of the day here: Always make yourself clear from the get go, so as to prevent others assuming what you are saying and drawing wrong conclusions. Now that you have clarified, I agree with the first part of the sentence.

Now, tell me and others please, "where you might not be able to add "ALT or Title" ". I am all ears. Again, we are here to learn.

Finally, I think I have a better approach to your SEO issue above that is better than text-indent: All tags now support the TITLE attribute. Learn how to use it

Now I can see that this "jangofake" is just looking for trouble.  I thought I could have a reasonable debate with this "person" but that has proven futile.

Oh well, I know who I am and I AM NOT DONPUZO

Even if I were donpuzo, even the Bible says that everyone can't do everything with respect to works in the church. In other words, I may not be a good web developer but that doesn't mean I can't be a good reviewer.

having said the above, again, you have made a mistake and like the FAKE that you are, are yet to acknowledge and apologize for it. Shameless!

Well. . . I wouldn't go as far as asking a web designer what his ID is, in order to gain access to his previous works when I can view others with a single search in google (thinking the way real and powerful clients think) . That is why web designers, developers, anybody in the creative field, has an online porfolio for. . . "To show people". . an by the way, If I was interviewing a developer for a job, I wouldn't accept a "print out" as his portfolio. I mean, how do we access the functionality of the works? Except ofcourse he is applying as a front-End designer or a graphic designer Let's just move on from that. On to the next one.

I am afraid we can't move on, just because you say so. Sorry.

I don't carry around my laptop everywhere I go. Also, not all clients you meet have access to a computer at the time you meet with them. In order to give those who fall into either category a "taste", I always have with me a binder showing the home page of every site I have done, in addition to a business card and a postcard. The latter 2 have information regarding how to access what I have done online, including functionality and design. I hope that explains it for you.

At first, that link was a mistake. I was trying to show this. http://www.agcchicago.org/netpositive/ . And none of them is my work. . . I just brought it up to show a one page site, which to me, is nice except you've got your own subjective reason to dislike a one page website. . . and that is totally welcome. And thank you so much for the book recommendation, I would seehow I can get hold of it digitally or the hard copy. Whichever way. and To reciprocate that, You can also try to read this, digitally though, "Designing With Progressive Enhancement" by Todd Parker et al. a little advanced but the best to meet up with the current design trend.

A little advanced? I am trembling as we speak. My nit wit brain will probably not be able to digest then, I guess. Interestingly, I have been on the bandwagon of progressive enhancement and graceful degradation for quite a few years now.

For example, I recently argued in front of my boss (in a company that hires 50K+ people), and a client, that we shouldn't waste our time coding for all IE browsers just because they don't support css3 and html5. We should think ahead of the curve and take advantage of all fully supported features in webkit browsers with the understanding that eventually, IE9+ will support those features (progressive enhancement). By so doing though, we are to code for the IE browsers such that they are at least presentable to the user (graceful degradation). That my friend is progressive enhancement in a nutshell. A little simplified I know but hey, it works for me. Now, read the one I recommended to you and you will understand why people like me get easily annoyed by sites that "make me think".

Oh, by the way, referring to http://www.agcchicago.org/netpositive/, I scrolled down to "our reason", copied the first line, pasted it in google and as expected, the first result was that site. When I clicked, however, it stuck on the home/first page, without taking me to the section for "our reason". In other words, I would then have to spend some time, no matter how small, trying to figure out that section was. Again, more reason to read that book I recommended. It is not about me, or what I like or don't like. Obviously, every site, no matter how bad, has its place and audience but again, that doesn't make it right for all occasions.

Talking about SEO, I know my way around that to the level of my peers in the field so I can say a little bit about this. First, the research you are talking about is people searching based on "tags" (for example, someone searching for a web designer in Nigeria and types "Web Designer Nigeria" or "Web Designer in Nigeria". Yes, you are right. they just look at the first few results and X the page. These people never pressed second page. I can say for years also, I have never clicked Page 2 of Google.

However, If you aim at optimizing your website for this kind of search, splitting the site would not do jerk! It's a fact. What you'ld be looking at are the Inline elements of the website. We are talking about wrapping even images in headers like [<h1>Logo of Whatever<img src="wateva.jpg" /></h1>] and some css to hide the text so that even google would read the images or flash that it wouldn't on a normal situation.

I completely agree with your concern on the SEO capabilities of the website what I'm just saying is that what you suggested might not have any effect.

You agree then you disagree then you agree again. Then to top it all off, you just had to throw in "jerk". Okay o. Again, my simpleton mind at work. No worries. By the way, and you probably already know this: Google doesn't read images, even with text wrapped around it. It read the text (alt and title tags) associated with the images. If you code with that in mind, you don't need to do any CSS "effizy".

I think it is high time Jangoreal's name be changed to Jangofake or Jangolodo or JangoHaveNothingBetterToDo.

Why am I making this noble gesture/plea?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-629800.0.html#msg7994927

All in favor, say "Ay"

Jangoreal,

Typically, I would ignore such rants as I try to avoid ad hominem attacks but this one is just too juicy to let go.

Why?

[size=15pt]BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY SITE[/size]

Even if it were, you have just displayed your level of "maturity" by making public what I have chosen not to be made public.  I take it you are yet to grow your first pubic hair.

Guess who the foolish fool is now.  If anyone is hiring you to do SEO, abeg, sharp sharp, make you take style refund dem money o.  Instead of you trying to come up with something to help reduce the level of unemployment in Nigeria (in other words, add value to those of us on NL in particular and in the country in general), you are busy obsessing over (time = money) trying to find a website to beat your hands on your hairless chest with.

If na yawa you want, na yawa you go get. Oya now

@yawa-ti-de:
---Thanks for reviewing again. You even went as far as reviewing every statement I made in the reply. You really like reviewing, don't you?

No worries. This is how I earn my living. Of recent, I have decided to "give back" to the community by offering free advice wherever and whenever I can.

they are "your" works though, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't want to show it publicly. I mean designers have online portfolios and they show their works,

Allow me to clarify: I don't "show my works" on online fora.  Yes, I do have a website that features "my works" and if you are a potential client, in addition to sharing my url with you, I also visit you with an album containing a print out of same "works" but no, I won't display it on online fora. Also, if you YIM me privately, something many have done, I will show it to you but again, not on an online fora.  I have my reasons.  Better?  

No. One page website is fast becoming the trend,  started roughly middle 2009. If it's nice, why not? would you say website like this, www.agcchicago.org, is bad because it has implemented the one page technique? No. So, there's nothing absolutely wrong with the one page website.

1) The site you reference is not a 1-page site.  Even if it were, I would prefer chazy's to yours.  

2) At the end of the day, it is all about usability.  There is a good book, now in its second edition that is called, "Don't make me think" by Steve Krug.  I respectfully suggest that you read both editions

What's the point here? Google would bring out the page eventually,  and the navigation is bold enough for the "searcher" to see the Gallery

I would like to focus on the "eventually" part of this comment.  These days, 80% of users, according to the last research that I read, don't even look past the 1st 5 returned results in google.  "Eventually" no longer cuts it.  Either you are in, assuming your site is aimed at generating income/donations, or u r out.  Sorry.

@webrain07 vs greenmouse:
Is this feud, or whatever you want to call it, necessary? Can't competitors reside on the same block? In the end, the consumer will choose. Having said that, webbrain, you should have verified your url. The site not coming up is a total turn off for me

@onnetcas:
For a beginner, if you wrote all the code I have seen, nice start. Still a little rough around the edges but, which baby started walking the minute he/she came out of the womb?

All in favor of quadrillo being a moderator, say "Ay"

(loud chants of "quad-ri-llo, quad-ri-llo" being heard in the background)

dhtml, though we have had this conversation before and you tend to disagree, the last post is the very reason why I say that when you write code, you have to write it with the assumption that someone else will need to reuse it and understand it, for maintenance reasons.

Sure, you wrote it yourself and sure, it works but of what use is it if, at the very least, you don't add comments, so that others can understand?

@dhtml: Interesting.  Never knew of that.  Slyrox, if you are out there, are there any security implications of dhtml's method?

Thanks for sharing dhtml, and welcome back

--You seem to be a professional website designer. Can you please post links to websites you have designed? Maybe I can learn some stuff.

I don't share "my works" in the public arena. You can contact me privately for that though

--The point was actually to design a single-page website. see www.onepagelove.com.

The whole, "I am doing it because google (of course not google in this case) does it" doesn't and shouldn't fly all the time. This is one of them.

--the gallery section cannot show up in a search engine as a different page because it's not a separate page.

Which is why I said split out the pages

--The CSS is not on the html file. As for the JS, it was necessary for it to work as expected. I'll still 'gzip' the file to compress it.

I didn't say you had CSS on the page. It was general advice. As per javascript, you can call a fxn onload and then write the code for that function in a js file that you call in your script tag.

--The 'white space" near the contact form is a facebook Like Box. I wonder why it does not show on your browser. It works well on other computers. I'll troubleshoot that.

Always code for Firefox first, as a developer. Also, code incrementally, which means, build a section and test in all browsers, then move to the next. This way, you know where any problems come from.

--The client LOVES the header that way.

Still doesn't make it right. I have argued features with commissioners, and won so it isn't hard, as long as you do it professionally and with proof.

--Concerning validation, I'll handle that ASAP. Currently, the message does not get sent unless an e-mail address is entered.

Your validation script isn't validating email addresses and phone numbers properly. It isn't enough to just check if the field is empty. You need to check for patterns as well. Also, it isn't enough to just validate on the front end. You need to validate on the back end as well. This helps mitigate security risks.

blushing

I guess you wanted to use this site to display your jquery skills, as opposed to helping the client sell her products:

1) Contact form isn't validating (front or back)

2) From a maintenance point of view, I don't see any reason to put all 5 pages on one page. Besides, if I google the company and say, gallery page comes up, I expect to see gallery. With the script you have, it will default to what is the home page, then I have to click again to go to the gallery

3) I would reduce the size of the header so as to bring more of the content into view: I would reduce the 360px of #header by at least half

4) Learn to put your CSS and JS into their respective files, as opposed to putting them on the actual pages (cleaner code, easier to maintain, lighter pages, faster page download times, etc)

5) In firefox, after what you would call your contact "page", there is a huge white space. This is more reason to follow my advice in #2

Having said that, nice layout, nice color combo and clean HTML code.

Good luck!

Well, speaking from personal experience, I find Joomla easier to deal with than Drupal. In particular, my clients, who typically aren't that IT savvy, find Joomla easier to deal with as it has, again from personal experience, a lower learning curve. Not to mention, it has won several awards in its own space, compared to Give joomla a try and compare to your experience using drupal then make an informed decision.

Again, cos I know many ITKs will probably come on her and argue otherwise, I see what I say based on personal experience.

I don't think it is an issue of no drupal developers but it is an issue of some, like me, who find it easier to develop on joomla than drupal

1) Get rid of the intro page - old school
2) get rid of all animations - distracting
3) Maybe dull down the red
4) Huge black gap, after "contact us" in navigation
5) did you do the site last year and are now asking for review? copyright say 2010
6) Footer links don't match what is in nav area above. Inconsistency breeds confusion
7) Images in header are all "boxy" and stand out in the red. Make them blend into the background color
8 ) No keywords
9) Looks like you are embedding a web page inside of another web page, based on view source
10) Many of the products don't have descriptions

I try not to exceed 10 items, even when I find more than 10, so I am not taken for granted. Fix the above and you should have taken care of a bulk of the stuff.

Good luck!

schneid, I hope so though, given the fact that elections are 2 or so weeks away, this isn't the case.

well, it isn't them alone: The nation newspaper's site, depending on the time of day, will come up with, "maximum number of connections exceeded".

I do agree with you though that given the money I am sure they make, if Seun can afford dedicated server, they surely can afford one, assuming they are all using a shared server.

Who? Me?

Beware:

When you do find that software, some sites like facebook have an https connection so merely blocking facebook won't work as your employees, or at least those who know, can still go to facebook via https://www.facebook.com