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OREMUSSANCTUS:
u just sit down and type nonsense, do ya even know anytin? Or ya and buhari go d same skool? U typed sometin from d bible talking abt how to treat a slave grl, beside its old testament. Did d bible say six yeaars or did d bible ask ya to rape a slave? U guyz behave like buhari, infact am beginning to daubt if ya ve skool cert.dat is d days of moses by d way, we don't leave under d mosaic law, we don't practice an eye for an eye. We live under d grace. Bro, look for somtin else cos u making no sense. Go search d bible and find were any prophet raped a 6 years old, den ya can make ya point or where d bible supports rape or child marriage or killing of non christians, or where any prophet slept wif slave grls. I doubt if ya will see any.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Kano, Nigeria (CNN)A 13-year-old Nigerian girl told reporters that her father handed her over to Islamist militants to become a suicide bomber, but she fled as two other girls detonated their explosives at a market earlier this month.

The girl was presented before the media Wednesday to describe what she called her forced role in the deadly attack. Her father, she said, joined Boko Haram and took his wife and daughter to a village in the forest in Bauchi state in northern Nigeria.

"My father took us to the bush, which was surrounded by gunmen," she said, according to a CNN translation. "I was asked if I wanted to go to heaven. When I answered, they said I have to go for a suicide mission and if I attempted to run they would kill me."

The girl and two others were taken by Boko Haram militants to Nigeria's second most populous city, Kano, and were dressed with explosives-laden devices.

The other girls set off hidden bombs that day, killing four people, police said.


"One of the girls said one of us should enter the market first," the girl told reporters. "She said we should separate when we entered the market."

The girl described how one attacker said the third girl would set off her bomb first, then the remaining two would detonate their explosives.

"I said no. I said I would not detonate," the girl said.

She was wounded by one of the explosions.

The teen escaped in a rickshaw that she took to a former home in Kano, the girl said. Neighbors saw her and made her go to a hospital. She left the explosive device in the cart, but the driver and hospital officials recognized the device and alerted authorities.

The girl told police she was forced into being a part of the attack.

What to know about Boko Haram

CNN has not independently verified the girl's story. Police presented her to the media without her parents or a lawyer present. Officials wanted to make clear the attack was the work of Boko Haram.

"We want to disabuse the minds of members of the public. ... This is not a tribal war. It's a terrorism act like we have had in the past," Kano State Police Commissioner Adenerele Shinabad said.

Boko Haram has terrorized northern Nigeria regularly since 2009, attacking police, schools, churches and civilians, and bombing government buildings. Violence has increased sharply in recent months, just ahead of Nigeria's February elections.

Schoolgirl describes escape from Boko Haram

The group has targeted mainstream Islam, saying that it does not represent the interests of Nigeria's 80 million Muslims and that it perverts Islam.

In April, Boko Haram militants drew international condemnation when they kidnapped more than 200 schoolgirls, many of whom they said they sold into slavery.

At least 5,000 people have died at Boko Haram's hands, according to a U.S. Congressional Research Service report, making it one of the world's deadliest terrorist organizations.

Why outrage alone will not defeat Boko Haram and #BringBackOurGirls

CNN's Aminu Abubakr reported from Kano and Steve Almasy wrote in Atlanta. CNN's Jessica King contributed to this report.


Dis is wad shariah and islam can do. How can a man donate his or her child for suicide bombers

fathermikky:
About the man Buhari
I have never seen any school built in his name Buhari, I
have never seen any borehole constructed by him. There is
no record of any scholarship awarded by him or for him nor
through him. I have never seen him use his popularity to
canvass for any charitable work nor any humanitarian effort,
not even at the height of the polio scourge where other
purposeful and prominent leaders lead the campaign for
immunization.
No single text book has been donated to any school either
by him, for him or through him. Asides from doing nothing,
he has not improved himself since his exit from office. No
book written, no memoirs, no lectures,nothing. The only
thing of note he can point to are his numerous interviews on
the BBC Hausa station.
He never champion for a university in his state nor has he
ever been involved in any kind of programme to better the
lives of the Almajiris in Daura. His entire existence has not
led to any meaningful development in Daura, yet they say
he can change Nigeria.
Doesn't charity begin at home again? No wonder he was
referred to as being ''perpetually unelectable''. He is not a
patron to any organization, group or association. No
professional body in Nigeria has ever invited him for their
lecture, convention or gala night.
The only time any known form, body or human assemblage
ever chose him to do anything for them was when the Boko
Haram terrorist sect nominated him as their spoke person in
the proposed talks with the Fed. Govt in Saudi Arabia but he
refused. He recently joined twitter because of the election.
He recently went to church services because of elections
Vote Wisely

femi4:
freemyblackberry

malvisguy212:
does all the Islamic alfa had this quality? [s]With all the barbaric act of muhammed, do you think he deserve the favour of a holy God who cannot ignored a little sin? Even a holy man cannot stand in front of the holy of holies ,he must purified himself talkless of muhammed who did soo many evil. Muhammed and Allah are the same person no doubt.[/s]

truthman2012:
Reconciling The Quran With The Jews and Christians Scriptures (Questions Muslims Cannot Answer)

Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving: (And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers (Quran 10:94).

And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom WE inspired. ASK the followers
the Reminders if ye KNOW NOT (Quran 21:7).

The above verses are an approval of the Jews and Christians Scriptures by Allah.

But again he said: And because of their breaking their covenant, We[i] cursed[/i] them and made hard their hearts.
They change words from their context and forget a part of that whereof they admonished.....(Quran 5:13). Since the said change or corruption had happened before the quranic revelations, why did he still refer Muhammad to the same corrupted Jews and Christians Scriptures?

Furthermore: Those unto whom we have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whose disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the loser (Quran 2:121). Since the Scripture is said to be good for those who read with right reading, why did he condemn the same Scripture again?

The Muslims, Jews and Christians are going to heaven with reward: Lo! those who believe (in that) which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad AND those who are Jews and Christians and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely thier reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.(Quran 2:62). Here the quran makes us believe that both Christians and Muslims are going to the same heaven despite the differences in their religion, then why: Fight against such of those have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day....(Quran 9:29)

......We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and that which to you; our Allah and your Allah is One and to Him we surrender (Quran 29:46). If Allah's statement here is correct, why do muslims not believe the earlier Jews and Christians
revelations, for which reason he said they should be fought?

And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession (Quran 2:89). First, this verse makes it clear that the Scripture in Jews' and Christians' possession at Muhammad's time is the TRUTH as the quran came to confirm and not to correct it. To confirm means to say it is true or authentic. But why did Allah still say it is changed or corrupted? Second, if the quran came to confirm the earlier Scripture, why the differences?

The Scriptures Are and Were Authentic Even At Muhammad's Time

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43). Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47). The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71). How could Allah say Jew and Christian should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

Ifeann:
You also accused me of not knowing what the anti christ is. .. most Muslims deny that Islam is the anti christ and I explained it to you. ..I haven't gotten an explanation on how Islam and Mohammed are not anti christs.. here please refresh your memory. .

the anti christ is a term used to warn us christains of people like Mohammed, Joseph Smith etc


1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Ifeann:
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]

Ifeann:
Jesus is the Son of God, or denies that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, or denies that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Every person that denies the Son, does not have the Father and is antichrist, and also is an antichrist.

Ifeann:
However, the single most egregious - and only unforgivable sin - in Muhammad's religion is committed, if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God. A sin worse than child rape or cold-blooded murder. Isnt thatt taught as shirk in Islam my friend.

Ifeann:
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

Ifeann:
Surah 9.30The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"
[s]Need I say more. Islam is an anti christ. [/s]

Ifeann:
yazach you also said,"Your explanation is baseless because you are only trying to abandon Old testament laws ..."

I have explained that verse you quoted .. You quoted the texts without understanding the context. .when Christ said he came to fulfil the old testament so that all will be accomplished he was right and at his death on the cross he said, " it is finished" [s]the old law was gone at that point. .. that's why we have the new testament just as God planned. God never makes mistakes or decieves.
Here let me refresh your memory on that verse
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truthman2012:
@ yazach

No more words coming from you na. Have you exhausted your lies?

Islam is falsehood, see why:

www.nairaland.com/2084448/islamic-lies-muslims-don't-want

Ifeann:
Yazach here is my reply to you from yesterday...you still haven't answered my question about giving you daughter to a man in his 50s. .here let me quote the reply to refresh your memory on it and timothy 6- 1:2

Ifeann:
This is the full passage please tell me where slavery is supported like u keep saying

1 Timothy 6 King James Version (KJV)

1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.

7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Ifeann:
You were making a fool of yourself in that thread and I pointed it out to you. . Some people were calling u a kid and pointing out your irrational statement. My friend that wasnt an insult.

I said your Eglish was getting more difficult to understand and u explained it was because of you phone. .not an insult

I said it was the lying spirit of Islam in you and am I wrong to say that? No. . Your quran approved of lying and deceit by using Al taqyyia. .. do you want me to quote the command and popular Islamic interpretations of the verse commanding this practise.. I have seen muslims use it several times inculding your respected Muslim scholars like ahmed deedat, naki, Yusuf etes. Here is a respected Egyptian imam on video Explaining how to use lying deciet aka Al taqyiaa to decieve people to convert to Islam.

Ifeann:
Now deny the Muslim imam..

I have long sense that you only go to Islamophobia sites and that is the reason why you cannot reason on your own Just one direction.
So my friend I have insulted no one and I tell no lies...I have explained that bible verse on slaves and several other bible verses toyou and other muslims .. yet your reply is to take old testament bible verses out of context or take parables and present it as a command in your effort to disparage the word of God by try ing to draw a parallel with the word of God and the words of Mohammed. . You will fail every time. .

truthman2012:
Are you denying what allah said in quran 2:62 that Christians are going to heaven? Didn't allah know Christians' belief b4 he said so?

Ifeann:
From the way you talk on thisforum I have always wondered if you were a teenager because of your lack of maturity . If you couldn't vote because of your age the last time but can vote now then I suspect you are relatively young. .maybe 21 at most. But You should be mature enough to make intelligent statements if you are in your 20s but apparently you choose not to.. rather you choose to insult and mock those that disagree with you. Look I have told you before, I voted for buhari 4 years ago. But his statement after he lost helped fuel the crisis that followed that election including his delay to condemn his cpc fans who murdered christains, igbo, yourbas corpers and inec personnel. .... I have also researched him further and posit he has nothing progressive to offer...... I don't like the PDP I was not in the country for the Lagos state elections but my intended candidate was Fahsola a muslim. I love Muslims and all humanity as christ commands me to. I have family members that are Muslims... How many times will I tell you this. ..I detest Islam and the abominable teachings and sickening acts of Mohammed..i have never insulted a muslim or any person in nairaland....I don't insult people or hate but I say things as I see them. .. I am not blinded by sentiments, bias or bigotry unlike you and most Muslims... and apparently it seems you think its just buhari and Jonathan that are running for the presidency. There are over 10 other candidates. In other threads I have given u reasons why I will most likely not vote for buhari or Jonathan. This is a discussion forum and not a campaign platform. It's for discussions. .. So I intend to wait for their manifestos before making my decision.

Ifeann:
the anti christ is a term used to warn us christains of people like Mohammed, Joseph Smith etc


1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]

Jesus is the Son of God, or denies that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, or denies that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Every person that denies the Son, does not have the Father and is antichrist, and also is an antichrist.

However, the single most egregious - and only unforgivable sin - in Muhammad's religion is committed, if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God. A sin worse than child rape or cold-blooded murder. Isnt thatt taught as shirk in Islam my friend.


Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Surah 9.30The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"

Need I say more. Islam is an anti christ.

truthman2012:
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With all the condemnations of Christians' faith, allah still said they are going to heaven (Quran 2:62). Inconsistencies by allah. Smh!

Ifeann:
Yazach I have refuted your silly argument, accept the truth or reject it .. I quoted that verse on servants and told u the parable and the figurative story used to explain it. Read Luke 12 again my friend. It doesn't in anyway encourage servitude talk less of slavery. But wallow in ur denial if it brings you bliss but one day u will have to answer for it. Christains have spent their time warning u of islam and your false prophet same way christains have been warning the word of faith movement, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses etc. Some will be reject some will accept.

Ifeann:
Yazach on a different topic if I asked u to take the toys of the hands of your 6 year old daughter and hand her to a man in his 50s for marriage dispite the fact that this man already has several wives and sex slaves in his harem and this man will later disvir.gin her when she is 9 years old - will you accept to have this man marry your child.

Ifeann:
"Surprise Surprise" . Another muslim quotes the bible out of context. Well NO its not a surprise. The level of ignorance u Muslims exhibit is shocking. Classic strawman. U make a false assumption and attack it thinking u are making a point while u only exhibit ur ignorance for basic theology and clear passages.

It is now paining you that you result to abusive words Have you forgotten your usual way of quoting the Qura'an out of context(twisting it the way you like). My friend, we don't need any spiritual meaning of the bible it is glaring, verses like John 3:16 have no spiritual meaning abi?

You said,"LoL. Well you try for your ill-self explanation and as a result, I will comment on just two of your statement"

Well my friend my explanation was honest, accurate and with enough details and authentic verses to back it up. I know why u decided to "address" the 2 statements, which coincidentally are associated with christainity, its because u can't even address the terrible amount of vices in your quran and hadiths with my emphasis on the inhumane treatment of slaves by Mohammed as commanded by his allah. This is the typical muslim.

You are wrong, I addressed the two statement because it will expose you more and it has done the purpose only that you are trying your dodging tactics and I will add more: Your bible even allow a man to sell his daughter/son as slave care to know that?

The
You also said,"Firstly,
@bold, are you opposing Jesus by the statement in bold red color? :-"

I affirm and support everything Jesus teaches. I really won't bother explaining that verse Matthew 5:17-18 in depth to u because my effort will be wasted on you but nevertheless I will give u a brief insight.
Jesus said, "“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED". He was crucified, died and was resurrected and hence paid the price for the sins of those who accept him hence ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING as prophesied. [/b]There is more theological meaning to this like; Jesus illustrates the Law by doing as the real Law requires, in contrast to how many Pharisees were living but I won't go into it. In addition St Paul a literate Jewish scholar, guided by the holy spirit and who understood the scripture wrote in Galatians 3:23-25;
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."

Not so fast don't twist it because it is clearly stated:
17 “Do not think that [b]I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
New International Version

Now this explain it clearly
New Living Translation
"Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. You can now tell us how this means death and resurrection

You also metioned that Paul was guided by Holy Spirit, Honestly this man is your problem and I don't blame him Jews have been successfully lead you people astray or is it not paul who ask you to leave the teachings of Jesus and move on to perfect ones(care to know that also)


So u see my friend, u will never understand this if u remain under the bondage of Islam and closeminded thinking.
I pray you will be delivered from the bondage of Paul because Jesus will deny you

Then you said,"Secondly,
Thank God you accept that bible also support slavery, but I notice a kind of hidden in you statements that it is mentioned in Old testament This makes me laugh."

Wow.. Now u are making a fool of yourself and on top of that you are now lying...and Your English is getting more difficult to understand. Look at what I said in that my previous comment and I quote it back to you, "...Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment"
So u see u are really confused. But I won't blame you. Its the lying spirit of Islam in you.

Then you said' " Apart from the fact that Jesus did not come to abolish those laws, he put it in to practice by:
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it."

Be careful what u say about Jesus, even your sources command you to respect him... and saying false things about the Son of God ..well I hope he forgives you.

Did you think we muslims are like you, never!!! I am only quoting how you people describe Jesus. As for me I believe Jesus to be: Messenger of Allah, Son of Marry and he can neither forgive nor give except with the permission of His Creator(ALLAH)May Allah be pleased with Him

That passage u quoted Luke 12:47-48 is an explanation of the parable of the watchful servant(Luke 12:35-40).
Start from Luke 12:35-40 that's the parable and in Luke 12:41 peter then asks Christ,"Lord does this parable apply to us or do you mean it for everyone" the Christ explains that parable with a metaphorically story about the faithful or unfaithful servant which you quoted ignorantly to try and justify the verses encouraging slavery in your quran.
Stop this your hide and seek game you bible support slavery it is an in-denying fact
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

I really do get tried and bored of correcting u Muslims but I must. No matter how u try, u can never bring the teachings in Christianity to the putrid level of Islam's teachings in the quran and hadiths.

My Friend, it is high time you accept the fact that bible support slavery even a Man can sell his child as slave. Just answer my question as follows: Why did Bible support slavery?

Ifeann:
I have explained this to yazach before. He keeps forgetting. But by Gods grace he will one day be free from the bondage of the antichrist