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Emusan:
It's like you never understand what I'm saying.

Let me repeat myself this time, I said your post mixed both your OWN statement and mine together if I click QUOTE on your post it'll only show your moniker while the rest will be BLANK, so modify your post by rearranging them so that if I quote your post it'll only display your statement.

Is it clear?

Emusan:
How many of your questions have I dodged? For you to say I always dodge questions.

Olodo!!! How can I answer your MIXED UP post when you failed to follow the pattern I always used in replying to your post?

For the last time SEPARATE MY STATEMENTS from YOURS so that when I click QUOTE only your statements will appear. OK!

Emusan:
I said MODIFY YOUR MIXED UP POST.


Separate MY STATEMENT from YOURS OK!

Emusan:
If you don't know how to use NL tell people so that they can teach you.

Modify your post by separating YOUR POST from MINE by using quote symbols […]

e.g

Emusan:
I will use this to inform you to go back to the rest of your post for proper modifications so that I can quote and reply them appropriately.

To your question, you're saying maybe I can't comprehend simple English but here is where our DISCUSSION ABOUT BIBLE AND ITS LANGUAGE STARTED FROM in your question;



Good English student can see that your question here is dualistic which I answered as you put it.

If your question had come this way; "why are we not having BIBLE WITH ITS ORIGINAL LANGUAGE..." but immediately you put "THE ORIGINAL BIBLE" and separated it with "WITH ITS ORIGINAL" makes your question to be addressing more than one thing.

it means you're expecting us to be going around with the original one Moses wrote and the rest.

So always be sound on how you construct your statement(s).

Macelliot:
As a being in human flesh.... The Agony, the Pain, the suffering and the deep wound......

Emusan:
It means "Peace Be Upon Him"

The exert blessing they always cast upon Muhammad because Muhammad didn't sure about his salvation so Muslims must pray blessing for him.

I pray your hatred for our Prophet(peace and blessing be on him) will not lead you to hell. We are to seek blessings for all prophets including Jesus whenever their name is mentioned

I wonder why people on earth we be praying PEACE for the person supposedly to be in heaven where God's peace forever abound.

You will keep on wondering but I will bail you out a bit so that you will not die wondering.

You said those believe in Christ will leave in eternal peace, Did you ever pray for dead ones in your family e.g may his/her soul rest in perfect peace, why would you do that? Are you still doubting them resting in peace when they died as christians?

Emusan:
Who says you people didn't understand the way of reciting your book, this shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

You accused Christians of not possessing THE ORIGINAL Bible which I go ahead to tell you that, you Muslims also don't have the original Quran but the copy of it.

So how does your statement address my post?

Ignorant is at work here.

Emusan:
because you are not carrying the Uthamic manuscripts but copy from it. so saying you have original Quran it's a lie from the pit of hell.#

Mr. Man!! I hope you can differentiate between original language and original copy
Hope you know that the only book that is memorized word for word, text for text, alphabet for alphabet in history of mankind is QURA'AN we Muslim do memorize it even as at when revealed so this makes it easy to detect any mistake in translation

Yes Quran in Arabic full market.
Do you want to tell me that no Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek Bible that you can purchase in the market?

My Answer: Tell us you have set your eyes on any How did you know it remain its full revealed language when you don't even understand the language

If you're serious check here http://www.bmsoftware.co.uk/bibleworks7.htm and stop confusing people just because you want to propagate Islam.

Stop lying again.

My Answer: Your lies and Hippocratic have no bound this make you think others are lairs like you.

I don't need to understand it, it's left for you to question Allah why people must learn one particular language in other to serve him.
To me Yahweh had already prophecy that time is coming that people will worship God in their respects languages but in one accord.
So to read Bible in one language is to deny the prophecy of God.

Ok I understand why you always reject truth when you already have it at hand
You said and I quote: "I don't need to understand it" this statement will only keep you wallowing in ignorance.


Nobody neglect original language the Bible was written, IT JUST THAT IT'S NOT COMPULSORY/MANDATORY by Yahweh like Allah made Quran mandatory in Arabic.
My anwer:
Let me ask you question: If those that translate bible to the language you use to read it made mistake, how would you know when you don't understand the original language? Can you no see why we Muslims are extraordinary when it comes to seeking knowledge


If they neglect, it how do will have Bible in over 1000 different Languages? Which means many people have studied the various languages that were used to write Bible.

Prove to me that a particular language can remain its 100% authenticity after being translated

So don't dive into what you don't know or stop intentionally lying for the propagation of Islam.

My Answer: Knowledge is better understood if study with its originality and by the time neglect that, you become "garbage in garbage out"

Instead of you Muslims to be thanking Christian for taking the first step to translate Quran into English because it was Christian who force Islamic scholars to begin to translate Quran into English and other Languages.

hahahahahahah . your last statement makes me laugh

Macelliot:
Yazach and Rilwayne001
Can you withstand the agony, the tortue and the suffering?
.
(Luke 22:42) FATHER, if YOU are willing, take this cup of suffering away from be, but let thy Will be done.......
Jesus Christ took the cup of suffering by taking and unsealing the scroll. He came from heaven to fulfill His Mission.

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How did it happen?
The mysteries has been revealed in the Book of Revelation.
The kingdom of Heaven was shown and in the Eternal Living Lord God Almighty was sitted on the magnificient throne, the twenty-four elders surrounding the throne, the four living creatures, the dominions of Heaven, the arc-angels and uncountable angels. On the right hand of the one who sits on the throne was a scroll with 7 seals. The one who sits on the throne(GOD) said, "anyone of you who is Worthy should come out and take this scroll."
No one was able, and the Lamb(Jesus) came out and took the scroll and unseal it, every dominions of heaven, on earth and in the underworld bowed down.
They sang:

To the Almighty living God
and to the Lamb be all
thy Praise, honour and
glory forever.

And again, they bowed down.... (Revelation 5).

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He became Anointed(Christ) when He took and unsealed the Scroll.
Shallom!!!

Emusan:
Another lie, when will Muslims stop lying for the sake of Islam.

What is the meaning of translate?

If I say 'Ekale' in Yoruba and an English man translated it to 'Good evening', does it mean that the English man didn't read the original meaning of Ekale in Yoruba?

My Answer: Can you see your life out side? If youruba man says Ekale and Oyinbo man said good evening, as a typical yoruba man, are the two the same?
Yoruba: Ale, Asaale and Oru
Oyinbo: Evening and Night

Now tell us which one of youruba term is oyinbo's evening and which one is oyinbo's night

This is enough for you to reason that the 100% authenticity of any language remain in as much as it is not translated

Yet the first copy collected were burnt.

All the ORIGINAL Bible MANUSCRIPTS IN POSSESSION TODAY WERE OLDER THAN MUHAMMAD, so which one is more authentic?

My answer: Please give us the name of the first copy that was burnt?

The original bible like King James Version(1611) or RSV(1901)


We have many Hebrew, Latin, Greek, Aramaic Bible today so what is the point?
My Answer: Where are they? Can you read them? Why are they not in circulation as translated ones?

Remember Muslim scholars first rejected translation of Qur'an into other languages that's why you will find Qur'an mostly in Arabic EVEN TILL NOW MOST MUSLIMS STILL BELIEVE THAT READING QUR'AN IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE IS NOT THE BEST they believe it is best in its mother tongue which is Arabic.
My answer: Just think about the yoruba/oyinbo analogy I gave above, which way is the best to understand yoruba? Reading it in its translated or in its real language? You have no point ogbeni

Yet those Arabic Qur'an are not the EXERT MANUSCRIPT of Uthman's copy BUT A COPY THAT HAS BEEN rendered to fit for reading where some CONJUNCTION, DEFINITE article, INDEFINITE articles e.t.c were added to make it more sounds to read.
Lol Sheu Emusan, we muslim understand all ways of reciting the Qura'an so stop deceiving your self

Emusan:
Then you're a liar



Neither I set my eyes on the original Qur'an.

manuell1021:
well it was translated from its original content I believe, well I don't bother myself wit dat, wat bother myself wit is d messages, re d prophecies accurate? Re d blessings been fulfilled?

manuell1021:
let us turn it around, y do we hv Arabic quran on circulation more Dan any oda language?

Macelliot:
Will reply soon. On my way home.

Mamaflex:
Jesus lamented because he had blood and flesh which made him human.

You think someone who raised Lazarus from the dead after 4days don't have the power to stop his/his son death? Jesus wasn't forsaken. God allowed him to die, so the scripture will be fulfilled.

Do you bother to know what was about to happen before the same Jesus said "father forgive them for they know not what they have done?

Where you would have claimed he was forsaken was if he wasn't raised after 3days according to prophesy. But he did! That's our victory, and that's the defeats of Satan and his agents. That's why they are crying woof all over. They never knew he would rise again.

Rilwayne001:
LOL!

Drink orange indeed

I guess the guy is'nt a yoloba

Rilwayne001:


No need to @yazach

He has alreadt confirmed it

Rilwayne001:
The guy is a notorious madman in the Romance Section.

To validate my claim, just create a thread on the Romance section asking who Andy is you will confirm my word

Emusan:
I know you're just joking and this shows how truth is far from you!

AndyBoomba:
I'm an inmate

Emusan:
Does Quran also circulate in its original Arabic language the way translated one does?

You can't pick the log in your own eyes but busy seeing someone's else own.

AndyBoomba:
You must have escaped from YabaLeft to believe you alone can give Christians four options to base their faith on..who are you to tie Christians to 'your 4 options'?

chosen124:
well spoken
The op is an ignorant man gone on rampage let's ignore him

faithugo64:
what makes you a good muslim is not how much time you spend arguing about other religons but how much time you spend serving your God and making your life better! op go get a life,or better still go hug a transformer and prepare to meet your 40 virgins!!!

I don't blame you op,you can never understand the spiritual with carnal mind

Christians,please don't waste your mb trying to convince this op
he is obviously looking for cheap attention!

A fool has said in his heart''Jesus was forsaken on the cross''

manuell1021:
u may c it as contradiction but I will say misinterpretation or anytin else but d messages still remain, but until I c d original language I won't argue of any misconception or any contradiction over it.

italo:
God didn't forsake Jesus, that's why he rose the third day and lives forever.

Jesus was lamenting as a human being at that time...and we all do lament that way, even though God never forsakes his children.

Cutehector4u:
not regardin this post..... Some other one,,,i tried coomentin but a page opened askin me if i was a muslim.... So i figured out dat u r a moderator

Cutehector4u:
i want to believe that you are a moderator...am i right?

Abdulsalam20:
Was the Person on the Cross Really Jesus?
The Bible says


“For the LORD loves the just and will not
forsake his faithful ones. They will be
protected forever, but the offspring of the
wicked will be cut off;” (Psalms 37:28)


But yet when Jesus Christ (pbuh) was put
on
the cross according to the Bible. He cried
out
“About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a
loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi lama sabachthani?"—
which means, "My God, my God, why have
you forsaken me?" (Mathew 27:46)
“And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a
loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—
which means, "My God, my God, why have
you forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34)

the question is


How can Jesus be forsaken when God
does
not forsake his faithful ones?? Now the
Christians have four options to choose
from.
1. The person put on the cross was
not really Jesus.
2. Jesus (pbuh) was not faithful to God.
3. Jesus (pbuh) is a lied that God forsook
him.
4. Bible is lying when it says that God
does not forsake his beloved ones.
You have four options to choose from.
Now
with whatever gymnastics you try. You
cannot add a fifth option here. So decide
for
yourself.