₦airaland Forum

Ikengawo:
Yes his age impedes him from being a good president. What does your grandfather know about a capital markets that is agemate buhari will know and apply to his presidency?

Buhari has ruled this country and nothing changed. We're acting like Buhari is someone that needs a 'chance' but he has had years in power already with 0 opposition so he was free to change Nigeria as he saw suit and nothing got better. People were flogged in the street but that's about it.

It is good to respect your fellow human being because the way you talk to people signifies the type of entity you are

In one way or the other you will definitely have one person in mind to be the president, the question is why that person alone why not another person?

drss:
Say no to Buhari. We want democrats, not dictators.

Is it the type of democrat running by GEJ? And besides Buhari act as a dictator during the era of dictatorship(Military Era) so why would you have that conclusion? Is he still in KAKI?

DaGC:
I have no problem with the General's age or his personality. Its a country of 170m+. He's not the only citizen capable of 'great change' in Nigeria as most of his followers promises. He has ruled before, he should let others rule too.




My honest opinion.

But what goes for bukhari also goes for GEJ. Let GEJ also allow others. Try to read the post again and deduce the challenge made by Amechi

naturally:
Its not by age o. Its by wisdom. Anybody with wisdom and God fearing should carry go

True talk GBAGAM!!!!!

bakandow11:
dnt mind dem, buhari might av made quit alot of mistakes concerning is outspokeness and d role he played in d country's religious turmiol but i was overwelhemed seen is vice as GOV BABATUNDE FASHOLA.

My fellow Nigerian!! Honestly one need to be very careful in concluding that someone is the brain behind the religious crises in our beloved country. It was not too far we experience a religious leader at its peak involved in amour deal scandal.
The question to ask is who did we think those amour meant for if successfully smuggled to Nigeria.
Please don't turn it to religious rather let us maintain the political talk
Thanks

Those saying Buhari is too old, defining good leadership by age should take their brains to the laundry.
If South Africans thought this way, Mandela the great Madiba wouldn't have become a president at age 76.
Ronald Reagan the 40th US president was 70 when he became president and ruled for 8yrs.
President Jose Mujika is the 40th and present President of Uruguay. He is 79 now and was 75 at election.
The 3rd president of Czech Republic elected last year is 70yrs of age.
Now our young PhD president who proclaimed that "stealing is'nt corruption" should be answering questions because I doubt if a 100 years old brain will make such blunder.
Okay let me borrow Amechi's lines; if PDP think Buhari is too old let them bring someone like him or atleast bring 2 persons whose combination will match Buhari.
Good leadership is not an exclusive function of young age. Bankole, Farouk Lawan, Maina were all young but they failed us in their respective positions.
Religion, tribe or region is not our problem. The problem grounding the Nigerian state is Corruption and Buhari appears to be the Mechanic.

Abdulsalam20:
HE CANT.........JUST IMAGINE HE CALL HIMSELF A CONVERT.........HE SAID HE HAVE NOWLEDGE OF THE QURAN AND HE IS MIQUOTING THE QURAN

I JUST PRAY HE REALISE THE TRUTH BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

A 80 YEAR OLD PRIEST JUST CONVERT TO ISLAM RECENTLY AND HIS CHURCH MEMBER.........AFTER SEEING THE TRUTH

Allahu Akbar. I pray that mavis also should rebuke the devil in him who is whispering lie to him

Abdulsalam20:
wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity


i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD



ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED

A word is enough for a wise so mavis and the likes head to Abdulsalam20's advice o

ooshinibos:
Good point bruv , and thats why the Americans think he is sympathetic to the muslim cause and he is unable to quickly intervene to the act of terrorism emanating from islam ..he is quite slow to react to act of terrorism within islam . Obama has openly declared that he is a church goer and he has nothing to do with islam ..and that he is a liberal , and the fact is that it will take a well balanced muslim to get rid of terrorism that has been triggered by islamic scholars , i have a muslim background and my grand father was an adinni , my mother was a christian , so i understand the thinking behind these religious ..the issues of hatred never came in my family even though we had different beliefs
not all muslims are terrorist but why are these violent groups claiming that they are muslims and quoting verses supporting their claims ( think deeply now ) , why dont they claim they are buddhist and hindus or marxist , why do they cling themselves to islam and not any other religion ? , these questions must be answered bruv if we cant answered these questions then we are not being honest , ..for example , the IS called themselves Islamic state , the name speak for itsself , i just wondered why they did not call it new syrian state or mosul state or christian state , its amazing ...dont get angry , am just curious

I think you know the verse those people were using as their evidence?
But the question is this:
1- If those verses were to meant what they do, why is it that Prophet Muhammed(Alai Salam) entered mecca without shedding a blood even when he has all it takes to kill them all despite what they did to him.?

2- When He(Prophet) had all it takes to kill all non - Muslims in Medina why did he live with them without harming they?

3- Why is it that the muslims in your family ask you said did not kill or fight the non Muslims in your family?

4- Am in south-west if those verses were to mean kill non muslims, how many muslims have you heard that kill non muslims in the name of religion
To mention but few

In response to your answer, that is power of blackmailing and Media. A very good example is what happen in Osun when C.A.N chairman Iwo Local Govt ask his member to dress like Muslim and attack his own church.

ISIL you are talking about, who trained them in the beginning?(divide and conquer)
Iraq war was Sadam guilty of having weapon of Mass destruction?

If you really want to know start your sincere research today

malvisguy212:
you dont know me ,i have muslim barground.my father name is Ahmed.but today by his grace we are christians,so there is nothing you can tell me about the quran that i dont know,your knowlegde of the word of God is soo weak,it will take decade for you to understand it.

Stop lying he got you
You know absolutely nothing in the Qura'an if you do why would you say the qura'an says don't ask how come you don't know the one he posted mentioned

{…Ask the followers of the remembrance if ye know not!} (An-Nahl 16:43)

Why don't you respond to that or is that not enough for you to prove you wrong

malvisguy212:
your knowlegde of the word of God is so weak that why i dont like repying you.

I can see the fear in you so much that you forget how to spell knowledge even when auto correct is there for you.

Reply him jooo

malvisguy212:
nice reply, muslims dont know the meaning of temptation.

So this is how coward you people are!! where are all in the name of jesus? I doubt if you can do anything in the name of Jesus as you claim

Mr man Jesus will deny you if you can't do things in his name

OLAADEGBU:
Devil speak. Let me give you the reply that our Lord Jesus Christ gave to satan: "Thou shall not tempt the Lord your God" (Matthew 4:7).

formula dodge it

This is an act of dodging. Since you don't want to tempt your God why did you make noise that people should come with their various problem

Hypocrites Advert. Oh!! you with Prolong pregnancy!!!! Prolong Wound!!!! Prolong Illness!!! come to Jesus let him hill you

I have not seen any of your pastor without boasting of healing somebody or casting out devil but never will you see them saying they pick up snake nor drink H2SO4

Once again you can not make it to jesus without completing those five

The bible said:

In Mark 16 vs 18

17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
18 they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

Bible clearly stated 5 good signs of the people of Jesus as follows
1- In Jesus name, they will drive out demons
2- They will speak in tongue
3- They shall take up serpent
4- If they drink any deadly things(Conc H2SO4, Conc HCL, soole lasan, etc ) it shall not hurt them
5- They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover

Without these five points completed, it is clearly stated you are not of Jesus

Now let us ask all christian which of these have you done successfully and besides you as a christian must have accomplish all because you are doomed if you haven't. God bless you as you do those five

So the likes of AdeSolution, malvisguy212, OLAADEGBU, BraveGuy and other Christians have no fate because I doubt if they will dear drink H2SO4

AdeSolution:
Someone said:he is the way....truth and life...
Someone said he doesnt knw ur end...common who worths being followed


I have gone through lots of researches, read more of books on religion and have heard much, but it sincerely got the ground that there is only one God and that is the God of Israel. The quoran made it known that Jesus is the word after talking about Jesus in 25 places compared to Mohammed;in four places. Jesus is referred to as the Word;spirit of God and Jesus Christ and that is in the quoran. As well, no female was made mentioned of in the quoran apart from Mariam, the mother of Jesus.
God created the world through his word.. Jesus is the word of God. The word is the creator. Jesus therefore is the creator, then why disturb ourselves on who to follow. Let us not create a division because of religion but to know the truth is the basic thing. Everyone has the decision to make but everyone just have to pick either life or death.

This is a great lie show me the word "Jesus" in the qura'an

udatso:
guess who is another word from God in the quran apart from jesus (as). if you don't know then you haven't done justice to your research


how many times was moses mentioned in the Qur'an? 136 times .


have you ever done research on what word or spirit from/of God means in the quranic or islamic perspective

Did you mind that zone B? he is only garbage in garbage out did he know how many time Pharaoh was also mentioned in the qura'an so if mentioning name signifies dignity does that mean pharaoh was also holy?

He was posting what one yeye christian posted online so he just copy paste without any research. If you want to catch him, ask him to list Verse of the Qura'an where Jesus was mentioned in the qura'an

malvisguy212:
you are only exposing your self,allowu udatso to relply he is more interlingent than you,you are making things hard for hm.muhammad called his father kafur but he say IT IS NO SIN FOR ANYONE WHO PERFOARM TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA. Dos your post make sens bro?
Abeg go seat down.

Mr. Man his post is very relevant it is you that suppose to open your devilish heart and hear to make truth sit down for you body. In fact his response is more powerful to debunk you claim than atomic bomb

All christian are terrorist and all terrorist are christian.

In one way or the other, you will surely find Christians directly or indirectly involving in act of terrorism. The followings show where you belong:
1- C.A.N president's jet caught with $9.3M with intent of purchasing arms to kill who and for who?
a- Muslims b- Christians c- Atheist d- Others

You are involved as a christian if you pay tithes because your money is being use for the act

2- C.A.N Chairman in a Local Govt. of Osun State, having foretell the emergence of Boko Haram in the area, ask his member to dress like Muslims and attack his own church. What does that signifies?
a- Terrorism b- Blackmailing c- Boko Haram d- all of the above

You are involved as a christian if you still believe Boko Haram are Muslims

3- Adolf Hitler killed millions of non Christians.
You are involved as a christian if you believe that the act of one sect makes others the same then, the fact that he was a Christian makes all other Christians terrorist

4- Don't forget crusader war most deadliest war in history of human being

Oh Christians are you satisfied? Yeye people

Abdulsalam20:

try to earn what cristianity entails

EXODUS 21:7-11
WHEN A MAN SELLS HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, SHE WILL
NOT BE
FREED AT THE END OF SIX YEARS AS THE MEN ARE. IF SHE
DOES
NOT PLEASE THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER, HE MAY ALLOW
HER TO
BE BOUGHT BACK AGAIN. BUT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SELL
HER TO
FOREIGNERS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE WHO BROKE THE
CONTRACT WITH
HER. AND IF THE SLAVE GIRL'S OWNER ARRANGES FOR HER
TO
MARRY HIS SON, HE MAY NO LONGER TREAT HER AS A
SLAVE GIRL,
BUT HE MUST TREAT HER AS HIS DAUGHTER. IF HE HIMSELF
MARRIES HER AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, HE MAY NOT
REDUCE HER FOOD OR CLOTHING OR FAIL TO SLEEP WITH
HER AS HIS
WIFE. IF HE FAILS IN ANY OF THESE THREE WAYS, SHE MAY
LEAVE
AS A FREE WOMAN WITHOUT MAKING ANY PAYMENT.



THIS IS A SEX SLAVE. IF SHE DOESNT PLEASE THE
MASTER? HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TOPLEASE HIM
infact slaves are treated more better in islam than christianity........you can open a thread for it and get beautiful response

I JUST PITY YOU CHRITIANS


anyway am still waiting for your response in the thread you opened elizabeth......bla bla bla

malvisguy212:
this will be the last i reply you,instead of you to adress my post,you are saying different thing,for you,two wrong can make a right.

The verse you quote are the old testement law,the live by the law of God, and when you live by the law of God,you break it,you will pay for it,but today christ has giving us his grace,but you guys in the arab live by the law and deny the grace of God throught christ Jesus.

The other thread was not open by me,i stop replying you because you dont know how to debate.

Yeee is it true that sex slave is found in the bible?
Have you ever come across it before
Oga leave old and new testament doctrin alone are both not bible?

Abdulsalam20:
try to earn what cristianity entails

EXODUS 21:7-11
WHEN A MAN SELLS HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, SHE WILL
NOT BE
FREED AT THE END OF SIX YEARS AS THE MEN ARE. IF SHE
DOES
NOT PLEASE THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER, HE MAY ALLOW
HER TO
BE BOUGHT BACK AGAIN. BUT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SELL
HER TO
FOREIGNERS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE WHO BROKE THE
CONTRACT WITH
HER. AND IF THE SLAVE GIRL'S OWNER ARRANGES FOR HER
TO
MARRY HIS SON, HE MAY NO LONGER TREAT HER AS A
SLAVE GIRL,
BUT HE MUST TREAT HER AS HIS DAUGHTER. IF HE HIMSELF
MARRIES HER AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, HE MAY NOT
REDUCE HER FOOD OR CLOTHING OR FAIL TO SLEEP WITH
HER AS HIS
WIFE. IF HE FAILS IN ANY OF THESE THREE WAYS, SHE MAY
LEAVE
AS A FREE WOMAN WITHOUT MAKING ANY PAYMENT.



THIS IS A SEX SLAVE. IF SHE DOESNT PLEASE THE
MASTER? HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TOPLEASE HIM
infact slaves are treated more better in islam than christianity........you can open a thread for it and get beautiful response

I JUST PITY YOU CHRITIANS


anyway am still waiting for your response in the thread you opened elizabeth......bla bla bla

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Honestly you have finished him in fact I don't need to comment on that idiot's(Malvisguy212) post am sure you will finish him. I doubt if he knew this could be in the bible because if he does he would not have try his blackmailing act.

Salam Alaikum brothers

The meat can be kept as long as you like. Furthermore, what is obligatory upon anyone that has the capability to slaughter be it a ram, he or she goat, sheep, cow(male/female) camel(male/female) is to make Sadakat from it, once the sadakat has been given out from the meat, the rest if for you to do as you like.

Evidence: Allah said in suaratu-l-hajji vs 36 (....... and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful.)

Althoug Ulamaa differs on how to share the meat but what is important (wallahu ahalam) is that it a must to give sadakat out of it base on the aayat

As regard slaughtering both male and female, the evidence is the saying of the prophet salallahu alaihi wa salam: for a male child slaughter 2 and for female child 1, and their is no problem male or female (animals).
Ulamaa use this as evidence that both animals can be slaughtered for Eid li adha (Al-Imam an-nawawi in his book "Al majmooh"

Yorùbá Mothers are one of the best when it comes to child upbringing.

Yorùbá Mothers produce the best range of slaps:

IGBATI, IFOTI, IGBAJU, IBOJU, IGBARUN, IFORUN, IFAKUN, ILADI, ABARA.

These slaps will make you think you were adopted.

IGBATI will make you correct your wrongs instantly!

The beauty of IFOTI is, you will confess your sins on the spot.

IGBARUN, IGBAJU an IFORUN will make you expose those who committed the crime including your self without hesitation.

ABARA and ILADI will make you pee in your new pant.

Now ABARA is the worst… You will attempt to rub where it landed but ur hand won’t reach up to it.

And apart from IGBAJU, we have an advanced one which is IGBAJU OLOYI.

When you receive IGBAJU OLOYI, you’ll lose balance and your head will go into “auto-search” as you’ll be wondering what hit you. This will make
you confess the greatness of God!

OH! IGBAJU OLOYI… it can reset someone to 3D (DEAF,DUMB, and DAFT).

God bless Yoruba Mothers for the good upbringing.

If you were brought-up in Yoruba Land, regardless of how caring your mother was, you most have encountered these slaps… Have you? If Yes, name D 1 U av received and tell us your action after receiving it. Dont kill d fun.

richkal:
Hey guy, you've forgot to include the source of the pix, but i'll help you out

Source: www.Bigot-Brain.com

IS THIS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE?

abdulplayer02:
people like you are wastes of sperm

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SeverusSnape:
indeed!... it has nothing!!!, I guess terrorism has something to do with Christianity then.. rubbish!

Yes u guess right.$9.3M amour deal by christian leader's Jet

HolyHolla: Please check 5:110 for the correct quote.

Will you now agree with me that you didn't read and confirm those points, it was just garbage-in garbage-out?

Now let us examine the point. You posted as thus:
6. Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all othersin the sense that He was the Creator: "I will create foryou out of clay as the likeness of a bird; then I willbreathe into it and it will be a bird." (3)House ofImran 42).
Response to the bold:

The verse stated that5:110)
(Remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection). "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)] so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and when I taught you writing, Al-Hikmah (the power of understanding), the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel); [b]and when you made out of the clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My Permission, and you breathed into it, and it became a bird by My Permission, [/b]and you healed those born blind, and the lepers by My Permission, and when you brought forth the dead by My Permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from you (when they resolved to kill you) since you came unto them with clear proofs, and the disbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.' "

Questions
Did Jesus did it on his own?
Why did you remove phrases like "by my permission"?
In what way does he become the creator? Does a creator needs a permission?

This are just miracles from Allah through his messengers and that does not makes any of the to be creator
If jesus is the creator then:
what would you say of Mose who was allowed to brought a life snake from a stick?
What would you say of Prophet salih in the Qura'an who was permitted to bring a life she camel with 10months pregnant from a mountain

Abdulsalam20: FEAR GOD
U SAID I AM USING FOUL LANGUAGE PLS WHO FIRST STARTED IT INSULTING OUR BELOVED PROPHET
SAYING WHAT U DONT UNDERSTAND EVEN AFTER THE THREAD IS NOW 5 PAGE WE KEPT ON ENLIGHTEN YOU THAT ISLAM IS NOT SUPPORTING ANY FORM OF TERROR
ANYTIME ANYONE POST A VERSE I EXPLAIN IT WITH THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND
BUT BECAUSE OF THE HATRED IN YOUR HEARTH YOU DIDNT LISTEN
EVEN THOUGH MOST OF ALL WHAT WE ARE DOING ARE SUPPORTED IN THE BIBLE IS IT ABOUT SOLAT OR GOING TO HAJJ
OR OFFERING ZAKAT I POSTED EVERYTHING HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ISLAM IS NOT ANTICHRIST BUT THE PRESENT CHRISTIAN ARE THE REAL ONE BECAUSE OF THE HATRED IN YOUR HEART AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE DOMINATED THE MEDIA YOU START GIVING BAD IMAGE TO ISLAM BUT ALHAMDULILLAH SOME PEOPLE ARE NOW REALISING THE TRUTH THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD BECAUSE ONLY FEW WHO REALLY LEARN ABOUT ISLAM UNDERSTAND IT CHECK MY PROFILE EVERYTHING I POSTED NO SINGLE CHRISTIAN TO PROVE IT WRONG ALL THEY DO IS TO INSULT ME BUT I KEPT ON ENLIGHTEN THEM..... BUT TODAY WHAT A MAN POSTED HERE ABOUT BATTLE OF BADR REALLY PROVOKE ME THAT EVEN AFTER ALL THE PROOF SOMEONE CAN STILL COME HERE TO POST THAT TRASH EVEN THOUGH WHAT HE POSTED IS LIE.............I NEVER START THE INSULT PLS CHECK ALL THE THREAD I CREATED AND SEE HOW YOUR BROTHERS ARE FOOLING ME.......BUT STILL YET I STILL ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS BBECAUSE I MAKE MY ANGER TOO MUCH........LIKE I HAVE ALWAYS SAID IF YOU SEE ME DOING ANYTHING DONT BLAME MY RELIGION BLAME ME BECAUSE MY RELIGION IS PERFECT BUT I AM NOT PERFECT......AND MIND YOU YOU QUOTED THE WRONG PERSON NOT ME

Jazakumullahu Khaira fi duniya wali aakhira

Word of taught: If I do something wrong, don't blame my religion blame me because my religion(Al-Islam) is perfect but I am not Perfect.
what a wonderful expression

again: Jazakumullahu Khaira fi duniya wali aakhira

HolyHolla: abdulsalam20, you need to realize that the crop of people engaged in discussions here are not riff-raffs and neither are they so degenerate that you will be in position to carelessly use foul words on them. Some are more like your superiors in every way and standard and you are only chanced to discuss with them because they chose to make NL a forum for sharing intelligent discourse. In real life, you may never have the chance to get near them for discussions, mind you.

No wonder people associate Islam with violence, uncouth words and barbarism.

While I believe that Abdulsalam20 is no longer worthy of any response from sensible intellectuals because of his foul language, which portrays Muslims as people without good manners and decency, I believe you, yazach still remains worthy of sensible response and further intelligent discourse.

You may want to check the various versions of translations of quran to find out that not all agree with chapter and verse divisions. That your quran's interpretation states something else in the verse quoted by another does not invalidate the other. We all realize that unlike the Bible which is generally similar in chapters and verses, divisions in qurans differ from interpreter to interpreter. For this reason, please cut us some slacks if we miquote verses and chapters, but still state what is somewhere else in the quran.

What I want you to do therefore, is either give us the correct chapter and verse where these quotes are in your own interpretation or in the alternative, tell us without doubt that what is quoted is not in the quran.

That established, I want you to ponder on these. Jesus was definitely acclaimed as creator in the quran. First, He is called the word of God. We all know that God created by His Word and the book of John begins by describing Jesus as this Word, by whom all things were created. Second, the quran established that Jesus made a bird from clay and made it to come alive. You will agree with me that only One who is God in nature can create like this, wouldn't you? No other person in Islamic history has ever been reported to be capable of this creative ability. Third, the quran, I believe, described the way by which God created human beings as making them as mould of clay and giving them life, which is the capability of the Creator only.

If we are saying, therefore, that Jesus is acclaimed as Creator by the quran, are we wrong in making such conclusions? If we are wrong, what is your explanations on my submissions of Jesus' ability to create?

@bold, please try to stop using those statement even if someone abuses you, the moment you start abusing the person makes you be like the person

Now to your response, am sure you understand what I am saying, but to make it more clear:
Their is different between interpretation and translation and I have not even say anything on the interpretation of the verse but the translation

In point no 6 of your post, it read thus:

6. Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all others in the sense that He was the Creator: "I will create for you out of clay as the likeness of a bird; then I will breathe into it and it will be a bird." (3)House of Imran 42).

But in every translation of the quran this is what we found
Qura'an 3 vs 42. And (remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah has chosen you, purified you (from polytheism and disbelief), and chosen you above the women of the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns) (of her lifetime)."

The similitude of the point 6 is like saying: B is the 1st letter of English alphabet

So the question I asked from the beginning still remain unanswered:
will you still tell me you go through the mentioned verses of the qura'an to confirm its authenticity? If yes, please copy and past the verse in the point six in your response
Thanks

HolyHolla: I was only sharing what someone wrote. I owe no responsibility if the verses are accurately quoted. But, yes, I read the message and I'm in agreement with all the points raised. Some of them may not be convincing enough for the critical mind of an expert in quran like you, but of course, the average person understands and accepts the submissions. They are all in the quran and I am ready to confirm that I have definitely read each and everyone in the quran before.

You may want to take it up point by point and show your disagreements, but surely, I will be ready to defend them. I guess that will take us deeper into the study of the quran, but first, in order not to waste our time, we must be ready to accept what the book says on these issues at face level except where exegesis proves otherwise. Trying to interpret to justify our own ideas will only take us into argumentations, which goes off course from apologetics.

I will start by point no 6(six), this is because I will want you to be sincere as any insincerity will not yield anything.
I you look at the bold in your post you will agree with me that the statement was not true because if you truly read the verses, you won't post this sixth point at all.
Now let us open the qura'an and confirm what we have, then merge it with the post if it is true.

Point 6 posted by you
6. Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all others in the sense that He was the Creator: "I will create for you out of clay as the likeness of a bird; then I will breathe into it and it will be a bird."
Qura'an Verse used: (3)House of Imran 42). i.e Qura'an 3:42

What the real verse says:
Qura'an 3:42. And (remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah has chosen you, purified you (from polytheism and disbelief), and chosen you above the women of the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns) (of her lifetime)."

The question now is that can you still tell me you that you read this verse and confirm its truthfulness?

dragunov: And you feel your mastery of the English language has contributed anything to your ability to reason like a human? Nah! I don't think so.

what is this one saying?

HolyHolla: Read all about it here:

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"Christ more honored in the Koran than Prophet Mohammed
The distinctives of the Lord Jesus-Christ in the Koran. What Does the Koran Say about Jesus?
1. Jesus was the only person to be born of a virgin,
distinguished from all humans and prophets without
any exception: "She said, How shall I have a son,
whom no mortal has touched, neither have I been
unchased. He said, Even so thy Lord has said: Easy is
that for Me; and that We may appoint him a sign unto
men and a mercy from Us. It is a thing
determined."(19) (Mary 16-24).
2. Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all humans
by being the Word of God, who is the very expression
of the Self of God end His eternal Being: "The Messiah,
Jesus son of Mary, God's Messenger, and His
Word …" (4)The Women 171; (3)House of Imran 40).
3. Jesus Christ alone emanated from the spirit of God;
for this reason He did not need a sexual, genetical
birth. "The Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary, God's
Messenger, and His Word that He committed to Mary,
and a Spirit from Him ." (4)The Women 169)
4. Jesus Christ alone, in exception to all humans, spoke
while in the cradle (19)Mary 22-32). The Koran tells us
that Christ needed no one to teach Him anything, not
even how to speak. The Bible says: "Who hath directed
the spirit of the Lord, or being His counselor hath
taught Him knowledge and showed to Him the way of
understanding." (Isaiah 40:1,13-14). Naturally, no one
can teach the One who emanated from God's Spirit for
He is the All-knowing.
5.Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all
prophets with His infallibility and was the only one to
be singled out for His perfection; for all the prophets
had sinned, and their sins were mentioned in the
Koran. However, Christ was the only exception, for
"High honored shall be in this world and the
next." (3)House of Imran 45). Also, the Arab prophet
(El-Bukhari) testified for the perfection of Christ and
His infallibility, saying: "Satan pokes with his finger the
side of every human at birth, except Jesus, son of Mary;
when he went to poke Him, he poked the curtain."
6. Jesus Christ alone was distinguished from all others
in the sense that He was the Creator: "I will create for
you out of clay as the likeness of a bird; then I will
breathe into it and it will be a bird." (3)House of
Imran 42).
7. Jesus Christ alone was uniquely incomparable in
knowing men's secrets: "I will inform you too of what
things you eat, and what you treasure up in your
houses. Surely, in that is a sign for you if you are
believers." (3)House of Imran 48).
8. Jesus was matchless in making the miracles and the
wonders which no other could make: "And I will also
heal the blind and the leper…" (3)House of Imran 48).
9. Jesus Christ alone could raise the dead with the
word of His blessed mouth: And I will bring life to the
dead…" (3)House of Imran 48; (5)The Table 110).
10. Jesus Christ alone exclusively enjoyed the
prophetical title of "the Messiah": "The Messiah , Jesus
son of Mary, was God's Messenger, and His Word
committed to Mary…" (4)Women 169). The Old
Testament made known the real identity of the
Messiah, saying: "Behold the days come, saith the Lord,
that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a
King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute
judgement and justice in the earth… and this is the
name whereby He shall be called: THE LORD OUR
RIGHTEOUSNESS." (Jeremiah 23:5-6)
11. Jesus Christ alone exchanged responsibility of
authority with God: "And I was a witness over them,
while I remained among them; but when thou didst
take me to thy self, Thou wast Thyself the watcher
over them." (5)Table 117).
12. Jesus was the only one to become a Sign unto men
and Mercy from God (19)Mary 20) unto men who fell
under the burden and the shackles of sin; for which,
God's justice and holiness condemned them to eternal
perdition. For this reason the only Savior, who can
offer eternal salvation to men came to be a Mercy from
God.
13. Only Jesus Christ could give His followers high
honors and assurances concerning the day of
Resurrection: "I will cause thee to die, and I will raise
thee to Me, and I will purify thee of those who believe
not. I will set thy followers above the unbelievers till
the resurrection Day," (3)House of Imran 55)
14. Only Jesus will be the Judge who will come to this
world to judge the living and the dead; the Arab
prophet (El-Bukhari) confirmed this fact, saying: "The
Last Hour will not come until the Son of Mary come
down as the just Judge."
If you meditated on any of the Koran verses that
portray the Lord Jesus Christ, you find that they are
inherent attributes that are exclusively distinctive of
God; and that He did not share any of them with any
human at all. Moreover, you find that the Lord Jesus
Christ did not enjoy only one of these attributes, but He
included all of them in His blessed person, so that He
may leave no doubt concerning His deity and divinity.
The New Testament recorded that the All-mighty God
became a perfect man (something that was easy for
Him to do) and came from heaven to our earth to save
men. The Bible says: "In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the word was God …
and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only
begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." (John
1:1,14). Then the Bible continues the portrayal of
Christ, saying:"And without controversy great is the
mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the
flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen of angels, Preached
among the nations, Believed on in the world, Received
up in glory." (1 Timothy 3:16)."

Excepts from : The gospel of Christ Jesus according to saint John as reviewed by the koran and muslim scholar. BY Dr Ben Malik

My brother!!!! but you said you have a translated qura'an that you use to read? If you truly do

1- did you read and confirm those things brought up by that man before you even post it here

If you don't mind, we can pick each point and engage each other regarding those points

Please did you know the names of the nigerians arrested with arms deal money in Pastor Orisajefo's Jet?