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malvisguy212:
what is grace? How do you explain grace? When jesus say to the adulterous woman "go and sin no more" what dos it signifies? You allow the pride of your book to block your sens of reseaoning. Open it and be free from this spell.

Crocz:
malvisguy212:
do you know the truth? Muhammad was in the cave of hira when the truth descend on him,what truth is that? Dos that mean all other prophet were living in lies before the truth came on him?

Crocz:
What has Muhammad or other prophets got to do with all this?...the "TRUTH" I'm referring to is not about the gospel, it's about the "PERCEPTION" of Jesus as God!

BossTtdiamonds:
Yes I can see that clearly... Keep wallowin' in ignorance... The bolded reveals a lot 'bout you...

malvisguy212:
honestly, i dont even know what you are saying here , what i pick in your post is the first word.jesus never bring grace? What is grace? The pherasses are the teachers of the law,yet they brought the woman to jesus the son of a carpenter,what dos this tell you? It mean jesus is in full control of the law,THE LAW OF MOSES TEACHES THAT THE WOMAN SHULD BE STONE TO DEATHE, BUT JESUS GIVE HER THE GRACE TO GO AND SIN NO MORE, IS THIS NOT GRACE? What is your definition of grace o ye satan?

Divepen:
When I read it, the name of Prophet Mohammed I found in quran, 4places, but the name of Jesus I found in 25 Places. ''Why does the Koran give more preference to Jesus?

Divepen:
there is only there is only one woman name I found. Mariam, the mother of Jesus, no other woman's name.

Divepen:
The Quran say Mary was born without Original sin, she never commited any sin in her life, Koran Chapter 50 Verse 23 says that she went to heaven with her physical body.

Divepen:
when I read 45 to 55 verses, there are 10 points which the Koran makes about Jesus.
1. He is the word of God.
2. He is the spirit of God.
3. He is Jesus christ.
In that same Quran 3:45-55,
4. Jesus created a live bird with mud. when he formed it, he breathed into it, it became a live bird. So, I think he can give life.
5. He cured a man born blind.
6. He cured a man with leprosy.e.t.c
7. He gave life to dead people.
8.Jesus went to heaven.
9. Jesus is still alive and he will come again.
10. He spoke when he was two years old.

Divepen:
But I found that did not do anything Jesus do and would not come back again.
So, there is a lot of differences between these two prophets.
So, I believe Jesus is not God but he is a prophet greater than Mohammad.

Divepen:
If my Teacher says he is the creator then the Word, Jesus is the creator.Then, the muslims must become christains.
If my teacher says he is a creation then how did God create the word, I would ask.
Since he cannot say the Word, Jesus, is the creator nor the creation he sent me out of his house angrily.

Divepen:
Interviewer(Cristina Casado): If you see things so clearly why don't all muslim accept this. Why don't they accept christainity

Divepen:
I told my teacher,'the word, Jesus, is not the creator nor the creation tat is why christain says he is the son of God.

Divepen:
then, he told me if there is a son of God, then there must be a wife of God- that I must show him. For without wife no chance of God having a son. Then, I showed a portion of the koran to him where it is stated that God can
1. See without eyes
2. Talk without tongue
3. Hear without hears.
So God can have a child without a wife

Divepen:
So, we had a big argument and you know what I did at the end?
I prayed and said 'Allah tell me what to do, your koran says Jesus is alive , Mohammad is no more. You tell me whom should I accept''.After I prayed, I opened the Koran, I asked only to my Allah.

Divepen:
When I opened Koran, I saw chapter 10 Verse 94.
Which says.
' If you have any doubt in this Koran go and read the bible or ask the people, who read the bible.

true2god:
In this modern age and time I dont need to attend any mandarass (sorry if I didnt spell it correctly) or islamic school to know the fundamentals of islamic teachings. Both the koran and the ha-death are well downloaded for even a layman to read.

You can do yourself a favour by cross-referencing any ha-death i posted if they are true or false.

Muslims always hiding or masking the muderous and inhuman instrutions of alllh from we infidels, thank God for the internet.

JackBizzle:
Sahih International
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.



Muhsin Khan
Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and falling down prostrate (in prayer), seeking Bounty from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. The mark of them (i.e. of their Faith) is on their faces (foreheads) from the traces of (their) prostration (during prayers). This is their description in the Taurat (Torah). But their description in the Injeel (Gospel) is like a (sown) seed which sends forth its shoot, then makes it strong, it then becomes thick, and it stands straight on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the disbelievers with them. Allah has promised those among them who believe (i.e. all those who follow Islamic Monotheism, the religion of Prophet Muhammad SAW till the Day of Resurrection) and do righteous good deeds, forgiveness and a mighty reward (i.e. Paradise).



Pickthall
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.



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1) I put three official quranic English translations of the passage and they all use harsh words against the unbelievers

2) The opposite of "merciful" is "merciless" and not "firm"

malvisguy212:
i thought you are serious,thank you for your time.

imas:
These fooolish Muslims coming to raise nonsense, baseless arguments here, I think seun forgot to assign a mode to this section.

true2god:
Is your ha-death authentic or fabricated so that I will know how to respond to your lies?

BossTtdiamonds:
Malvis.. You should honestly leave tis' muslim folks to their ignorance... Once they are out of things to say, they result to rainin' insults or try to deviate from the essence of the thread.. They are already portrayin' their true image..

Abdulsalam will always go out of context.. A very illogical fellow with an IQ you'd wonder how the heck he got access to the internet "No Offence meant"...

Rilwayne as usual 'lld result to rainin' insults on your person.. Very like his person.. It used to be "I don't argue with Nland nitwits", but I see he's taken a new turn... "Ignoramus" is the new thread he's followin'...

BossTtdiamonds:
Funny how the truth lies in view yet you've chosen to hide yourself from it... Would drinkin' Conc H2SO4 glorify the name of God?..
When the devil did tempt Jesus Christ and he asked him to jump from the pinnacle of a high tower sayin' God has said he will send his angels to guide him and protect him... Why didn't Jesus jump?...

I think the question you should ask yourself is "Am I asking the right questions"..

malvisguy212:
if i pick the sarpent,shuld it manifest the glory of God? Bible say we do not wrestling with flash and blood,but agains principalities and powers and the ruler of the kingdom of darkness,do you know that the devil other name is sarpent? THE SARPENT YOU WANT ME TO PICK DO ME KNOW HARM,BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS,USE YOUR SPIRITUAL POWER,TURN TO SARPENT AND ATTACK ME LET SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

To drink posion,i cannot mock God because i know my God is bigger than what your thought,but if you posion me,by his grace i shall not die.

[s]Why do you cancild were muhammad snore like a camel? Are you ashame?



Narrated Safwan bin Yala bin Umaiya from his father who said:
A man came to the Prophet while he was at Ja'rana. The man was
wearing a cloak which had traces of Khaluq or Sufra (a kind of
perfume). The man asked (the Prophet), "What do you order me to
perform in my 'Umra?" So, Allah inspired the Prophet divinely and
he was screened by a place of cloth. I wished to see the Prophet being divinely inspired. 'Umar said to me, "Come! Will you be
pleased to look at the Prophet while Allah is inspiring him?" I
replied in the affirmative. 'Umar lifted one corner of the cloth and I looked at the Prophet who was snoring. (The sub-narrator thought that he said: The SNORING was like that of a CAMEL). When that state was over, the Prophet asked, "Where is the questioner
who asked about 'Umra? Put off your cloak and wash away the
traces of Khaluq from your body and clean the Sufra (yellow color)
and perform in your Umra what you perform in your Hajj (i.e. the
Tawaf round the Ka'ba and the Sa'i between Safa and Marwa)
." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 27, Number 17

malvisguy212:
1.by his grace i can heal the sick through the name jesus.
2.when demon possesed you,how do you speak?[s]when muhammad recive his ravelation,he snore like a camel,his voice is the same as camel?.[/s]when i pray for the holy spirit to possesed me and when he does,i will speak in tongue.
3.when i relocate to my new house,before i enter the room, i say "all the demon,whitches and wizard,get out,moses is here" at the middle of the night i saw someone standing,i just smile and say,"if you stand tire,you will leave,i want to sleep" today by his grace,am healthy,infact the last time i sick it was 1995/06. After i leave the hospital,i told the doctor, i moses will never step foot here again,uptil today,by his grace am alive,and i havent visited the hospital.
Am a christian,my testemoney is true,let here your's.

malvisguy212:
nothing to be adress in the op,it only a conversation.

vivalavida:
U keep making the same mistake again and again

malvisguy212:
[s]There are also other instances in the Qur’an that shows that Allah does
not know the outcome of the future with certainty. For example the
Qur’an declares in Surah 3:144: Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed many Messengers have passed away before him. If HE DIES OR IS KILLED, will you then turn back on your heels as disbelievers? And he who
turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and
Allah will give reward to those who are grateful. (Hilali-Khan)

Muhammad was not only Allah’s greatest prophet but he was also his
final and favorite prophet. Yet, Allah was uncertain about the manner
of Muhammad’s death. The phrase, “If he dies or is killed” in Arabic is “Fa-in mata awo kutila.” This verse demonstrates that Allah did not know whether Muhammad will die a natural death (Mata) or be killed by someone (Kutila). Thus, Allah was unable to affirm the exact manner of Muhammad’s death. That is why there is not a single
prophecy in the Qur’an that details the manner of Muhammad’s death.

MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET.[/s]

malvisguy212:
op.[s]your Allah is weak.


Surah 8:65: “O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (Yusuf Ali)

allah prophecise in surah8:65 that twenty muslims will defected hundred unbelievers and a hundred muslims will defected a two thousand unbelievers.but the people complain to much and dosent trust allah prophecy,immediatly surah8:66 was reavel.


Surah 8:66: “For the present, Allah hath lightened your task, for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But even so, if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” (Ibid)

allah know there is a weak spot in them yet he put a burden to them but when they complain,he reduce it from 20 to defect 100 and 100 to defect 1000 and he reduce it to 100 to defect 200 and 1000 to defect 2000.


Surah 8:66 was revealed a short time later after Muslims complained bitterly at the impossible odds they would have to encounter when
they engage their enemies in battles. Consider carefully the wordings
of these two Surahs. Surah 8:65 states, “If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (A ratio of 1 to 10). And Surah 8:66 states, “…if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand.” (A ratio of 1 to 2).


Ishaq: 326: “Abdullah told me that when this verse came down it was a shock to the Muslims who took it hard. They were afraid, as the odds were too great. So Allah relieved them and cancelled the verse with another: ‘Now has Allah relieved you and He knows that
there is a weakness among you, so if there are 100 (rather than 20) they shall vanquish 200.’”


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 176: Narrated Ibn Abbas: When the Verse: — ‘If there are twenty steadfast amongst you (Muslims), they will overcome two- hundred (non-Muslims).’ was revealed, it became hard on the Muslims when it became compulsory that one Muslim ought not to flee (in war) before ten (non-Muslims). So (Allah) lightened the order by revealing: ‘(But) now Allah has lightened your (task) for He knows that there
is weakness in you. So if there are of you one-hundred steadfast, they will overcome two-hundred (non-Muslims).’ (Surah 8:66) So when Allah reduced the number of enemies which Muslims should withstand, their patience and perseverance against the enemy decreased as much as their task was lightened for them.

QUSTION.
(1) Why did Almighty Allah’s prophecy in Surah 8:65 fail in its fulfillment? Does not this prove that Allah is incapable of seeing
through to the fulfillment of his prophecies? Does this not also prove that Allah cannot be the Almighty God as he claims to be? (2) Why did Allah abrogate his own prophecy and replace it with a contradictory prophecy? Does not the fact that Allah got his prophecy wrong the first time shows that he is learning by trial and error just like any imperfect human? Does not this also prove that
there is a failed prophecy in the Qur’an? Can a divine book contain a failed prophecy in it? (3) Since Allah abrogated his prophecy because of his warriors’ reluctance to fight against such odds, does not this prove that the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy is dependent on the decisions of imperfect humans? How can the failings of humans to follow directions
result in the divine failure of the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy? Can the Word of God fail? (4) Why did not Allah know that his warriors would be unable to cope
with the demand to defeat their enemies ten times their number? Is it
not so because Allah did not know the weakness of the Muslims? Why
did not Allah know their weakness just one verse away? Why did
Allah choose to lower the prophesized ratio from 1:10 to 1:2 instead of empowering his warriors with the needed strength and courage to
measure up to task as predicted in his divine prophecy? (5) If Allah does not know the present, can we trust him to know the future?[/s]

priscaoge:
Who is Oga?

Ikengawo:
what have i denied anyone? I said buhari was a failed former president and his age impedes his ability to understand the modern world. You're not denied of anything

priscaoge:

drnoel:
Think u 4got ur dtugs.

Leo001:
Op how old are you. how old was GMB when he became the head of state, Where he exhibited those qualities you are now clamoring for his return. Young men like us should be given chance to vie for the position of the president in this country. its high time we the youth start believing in our self, and fight for our right. it is very shameful for a youth to say I belong to this party and that, when their youths leader are grandfathers.

Op stop looking forwarded to see this same old men recycling themselves is the corridor of power, let stand up and take our rightful place in this country. If we the youths are not ready to die, we will not live. Watch out for me in 2019!

bakandow11:
i wasnt turning the table, he made some remarks on BBC that wasnt gud enough, am a muslim and a lover of peace and tranquilty, av alwasy been tinking nigeria needs a disciplinary pple to get us on track, fashola and buhari i believe culd deliver d country, i was a logos befre fashola and i spent sometime after his two years in office befre leavinh the country, all i av about buhari was d history of his time in office during dose days they may both av thre shortcomings but to me a better naija can come from them. May Allah guide whoever become the president of naija, we ar missing alot. i can say it anywhere no country as ever been blessed by like naija, but the blessing is making us suffer. we need prayer.

Ikengawo:
Because there's only one president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and I have the right to chose a candidate I like.

vivalavida:
The blunders keep increasing in magnitude. I bet your dumb brain wont allow u figure it out.

vivalavida:
Op,correct the grammatical blunder in your title first.