bodeface:
For all HND Holders willing to convert to BSC, there is hope University of Portharcourt offers three years part time conversion programme, check it out and enrol if you are around portharcourt.

Do anyone knows any of such programme around the south-west. Lets share Information is power I just did!

That is no real hope.

When you are at your polytechnic, work hard and get a direct entry to the university already at the ND level.

That way you will save yourself a lot of time and stress. An HND holder will usually use 8-9 years to obtain a BSc. That is the way it is structured in Nigeria.

^
In Nigeria or abroad?

nitrogen:
Please forget ANAN, i dont think earning its qualification makes one chartered.

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If it does not make one chartered how come a someone with a Masters in Accountancy who is a treasurer in a public office fail to ace it at one sitting

I am not saying ANAN is a top qualification than ICAN but if you read what i wrote earlier my aunt used her ICAN level qualification to qualify directly for HND.

Of course this is a very good topic where statistics could have been the judge. But in the absence of it, i have also heard things like Polytechnic graduates do well in the ICAN exam or also more particular to Yabatech graduates of Accountancy.

My aunt had her HND in Accountancy from Moshood Abiola Polytechnic with her ICAN PE whatever it is called exam in 1998.She was exempted from the National Diploma. She has worked in the Local Government all her life even before she started the HND. Unfortunately for financial reasons she did not finish the ICAN professional qualification ever since. This HND has hindered her chances of getting to the top her civil service work for a long time. Talking about 16years in the civil service.

In 2007 my aunts boss who had a Masters in Accounting from a top top University in Nigeria bought forms for herself and my aunt to partake in the Association of National Accountant of Nigeria professional exam. During these times my aunt could not study much because she was pregnant. She put to bed two weeks before the examination. When the results came out my aunt passed all her modules earning the qualification at one sitting while her boss did not pass hers.

Like i have said before Nigerian universities and polytechnic are the same. The difference is in the individual

Good response from you as well AJ. We have a long way to go to bring back those glorious days in our education system.

State Universities and Federal Universities
Before I left Nigeria, I had two and the half admissions. One at OAU, one abroad and was processing an admission at Unilag. I got my admission into OAU through direct entry after working my a** off whilst studying at Yaba Tech. I wanted to continue to Unilag but only distinction was needed at that level so I applied to OAU and was on a list I did not continue to monitor with since I got an admission abroad. My first impression of OAU was that of a serene but of somewhat old setting. I was stunned by the absence of a computer in as many administrative offices I visited while processing my admission. Truth be told, nothing there showed to me signs of a university driven by research or something similar. Don’t get me wrong, I am not disputing the intellectual capability of both students and teachers but rather the education itself they push out to their immediate community, society and the world.

Unilag on the other hand is also a Federal University that has earned forum wide acclaim as an institution with bright minds and what not. Well, the likes of Tanimola22, 2good and others who are graduates of the institution will and should be proud of their achievement thus far. Truth be told that their academic excellence has not been defined by Unilag itself. I remember whilst still at Yabatech, many architecture students from Unilag bring their portfolios to Yabatech for draft guys to help them with their studio works. This is not a lie and if I am sure, it still goes on today. Or a short story of how graduates after grad school do not even possess the necessary knowledge to embark on the job offered to them, like the University of Lagos Mass communication final year students that visited the office for their final year project and didn’t know the components of a Newspaper?

This reminds me of an article I posted some days ago about a Yabatech grad becoming the highest GPA earner at Unilag. He could have easily gone the other way as an HND holder if he did not get admission into Unilag. How is it possible that such a brilliant guy did not get admission there? Of course, my uncle Ajanlekoko was on hand to remind me that shebi he finally got into Unilag. Another comment he made that saddens my heart was that students that go to state universities are wounded students. He forgot that, space, competition and lack of level playing ground has its toll on the destiny of many students in Nigeria.

With all these said, I would not want to delve into the state universities anymore because it is glaring that our universities are all by themselves on an equal level just that some of them are reveling in past glories.

[b]My advice
[/b]As I have seen many people cry out on Nairaland on how they went to state universities, polytechnics and others usually termed as a lowly ranked institution of learning in Nigeria. Take solace today. My advice is that you work hard wherever you find yourself and get the best GPA you can to have options for the future. If you are in a poly, convert to a University through a direct entry and make sure you get a B.Sc from whatever institution in Nigeria and move on from there. If you are already in a university, get good grades and apply for scholarships abroad or to some universities in Europe where tuition is cheap or close to free. That way you learn more. A B.Sc degree is a generalized degree that’s why you should not worry too much where you get it from. Pursue your master’s degree immediately or if you lucky after getting work experience from a relevant field. Most importantly be proud of your accomplishments and not your affiliation. Strive for self improvement, get other qualifications and the sky will be your starting point. All institutions in Nigeria are the same.

Reference on the unilag mass communication students here: http://www.cp-africa.com/2012/05/31/opinion-here-is-proof-that-nigerias-education-system-has-failed

Just last week, on a gloomy afternoon, baby girl and I were both home observing a wider space between us than we usually do. Suddenly, the mail dropped and I rushed to the door to pick it. My first observation was a letter enveloped with a top university name printed on it addressed to baby girl. Girlfriend was busy scowling when I handed the letter to her. She swiftly opened the envelope and read the content then all of a sudden jumped at me screaming; she got an admission to study Mathematics in the University in her language. My countenance changed and I raptured along with her and our disagreement quickly turned into a past tale. We were really hoping she got the admission into the University this autumn already. Of course both of us were surprised with such an unexpected admission that she did not write an entrance examination for. The letter stated that her high school final exam was good enough to guarantee her a place in the course exempting her from additional entrance exam at the university. The university in question is a top 100 university in the world and top top university in Europe.

Whilst still shrouded in the elation of a top admission, the thought of an entrance exam she had written earlier for an admission to a university of applied sciences sprang up and I decided to look up the web if the results were out. Luckily she was admitted to her first choice university of applied sciences as well ranked in its ’000th to study Business and IT in English. At this point we were torn between the two admission options. Both offering both unique advantages to the girl. The prestige of the best school in her country, globally renowned research, a good course and excellent career opportunities. etc. And for the other institution, the lure of studying in English, opportunities of having a double degree from a partner institution abroad, the excellent combination of business and IT and also the graduate to job philosophies of institution of applied sciences. Just after an hour later, we concluded she opts for the University of Applied Sciences. The reason just as stated in the last paragraph.

Moments after reaching a decision, I chuckled in an unsatisfied manner as I mirrored her case with a country like Nigeria. Where the meaning of polytechnic education (also university of applied sciences in developed countries) has been denigrated to mean the lowly educated, the semi-literate, the second class citizens, non-degree holders often with a ceiling in career height etc.

The problem
If what I know about polytechnic education is true then I believe there is the need to retain this particular area of education in our country Nigeria. The polytechnics are created to instill technical skills into their students which are of immense benefit in the industrialization of any country. This elitist society called Nigeria has been playing down the importance of technical education for a long time now. I remember once hearing a statement by a then Minister of education describing polytechnic education as ‘technical education pure and simple’. The statement itself does describes the work of polytechnics but the language of including ‘pure and simple’ has had a literal effect on the status of these institutions from my standpoint.
In the more recent times, the politicization of every fabric of our society has seen the power mongers amongst us send their young bloods abroad, to private institutions in Nigeria, bribe their ways through JAMB and the university system itself. All of these factors have given lesser meaning to the qualifications called National Diploma and Higher National Diploma.

What should have been:
If Nigeria were a serious country, it should have looked abroad to see how the polytechnic education has changed in many developed countries like Germany, U.K, Finland, Netherlands etc. The United Kingdom for instance has changed all of its polytechnic education into Universities in 1992. In central Europe, names like Universities of applied sciences, institute of technologies are more used these days in a deliberate branding of these institutions not tampering the quality and standard and the worth which is bestowed upon the recipient of these degrees.

The results
Tunde and Sola were two of my classmates when I studied at Yaba Tech some 4years ago. Tunde is a very brilliant dude who had joint top GPA of 3.46/4 in our group. Sola on the other hand is an average student who could not maintain an upper credit after his first semester. Two semesters had passed when Sola got admission to study the same course at Unilag deploying the usual means of scoring high in JAMB. Today both of them are graduates from Yaba tech and Unilag respectively in the same course of study. Usually, Sola would be looked at in the society as the better student just because he went to an elite university while Tunde the brilliant guy went to a polytechnic. Earlier this year, they both asked me to help out with master’s studies abroad. After filing the application for Tunde, it was immediately rejected because he had an HND while Sola would be gladly accepted just he possessed a degree from a University.

Unilag is not a Miracle center
I refer to Denee’s comment that Unilag is not a miracle center. Of course, I respect the degree of Unilag graduates and good luck to them all but I would like to use this medium to call a spade a spade. Let’s face it, most of what is been taught at our Universities have been there for some time now. It’s not unusual to see a lecturer in our Universities giving notes of over twenty years ago to students in 2012. The theories of the past are still been passed on to the students of today. The real essence of a university is in its research capabilities. Unilag would not be an overly rated institution, if its graduates can tell us the research that has come out of it and used in other part of Nigeria and the world.

From my understanding, the ability to carry out research is what separates a University and a polytechnic. And if there is no meaningful research going on at Unilag what separates it from a polytechnic in Nigeria?


To be continued

Kingsleyinfo:
Please can u give more details as to the fees for the exams?
I mean all you had to pay including registration for this exam and membership.
Pls your info will save me the stress of having to travel to the British council to find out for my self.
I also wanna take the exams.

@all
Kindly advise or expantiate more on the relationship between SCM and project management.
A[b]m an aspiring project manager but I think the knowledge to be gained from SCM would be vital to my PM career....[/b]

I think project management works the same in SCM like other fields. More like start a project and see it to completion on an individual basis. Especially if the project is bigger than what a particular company is used to. It is usual to see a term called Project Logistics. This is more like using project management philosophies to execute the sourcing, transportation, warehousing and payment of a specific company assignment that has a limited time to execute.

That just my way of conceiving the relationship between the two

Well, i guess no one wants to work outside oil and gas anymore. God bless Nigeria

^^ hehehe... yeah you can call it myopic but forgive my bloated derision

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complex forecasting of businesses and the economy. I think its not working anymore in Europe and America.

^

abouzaid: @deleo16, it's more difficult to do ur masters with a pgd than with a degree, even the most selective schools here will admit[b] a degree holder with a gpa of 2.75 to 3.0[/b] but will only take a pgd holder with 3.5. Though i do expect this to change with time. Most pgds have doubtfull value in the work environment except those that did it in education where it's a professional qualification. As for the element of luck, ppl do get lucky, for example, they are ppl do their youth services in places that pay very well or even retains them based on performance rather than initial qualifications. Some ppl have been sent abroad for training as youth coppers and retained regardless of initial qualifications. God works in mysterious ways but we too must be willing to suffer initially

where are you studying?

cool bro!

AjanleKoko: Third class grads shouldn't be allowed to graduate, in my view

But seriously now . . . OP, how come you graduated with a 3rd class? It's almost like you didn't go to school. If you could garner 5 credits (50%) at O'Levels, why could you not achieve 48-50% minimum at university, over four years?

You'd probably need to re-invent yourself. I know someone who graduated third class, but went back to school, eventually got a PhD, and is now a professor in Nigeria's top business school. It took time and a lot of courage but he did it.

Another way is for you to look for something else to do. You could learn a skill or a trade, or go into some sort of entrepreneurial activity. Then it would not really matter.

Just think and act on what options you can see for yourself.

Actually, the Op is making a case of discrimination of third class holders at his work place. Not that the Op had a third class

tanimola22: Wow, this is yet another ground breaking discovery similar to the one I commented on in the last page of the Finance/Economics thread. You guys are really discovering things that some of us would never have dreamed about. Although I know one third class engineering guy who beat people with higher grades to a job, including the best graduating student of his undergraduate class, I am not sure that I have come across a considerable number of 3rd class graduates who sound better than others with higher grades. I can only say kudos to your finding.

Meanwhile, the discovery is all yours. You take full credit for it, but can you enlighten us on how you came about it? My rough estimation shows that there are more than 100 thousand graduates with 2:1, 2:2 and 3rd class degrees in Nigeria. You can start the enlightenment from there.

T22

Seriously, i saw this post and did not know what to say. It just reminded me of the Finance/Economics thread. There is something we all don't know about the degrees flying around in the country.

!!

fescope: @ Yemmy Ma


Like I mentioned earlier in my post, various university may name a course however they see fit. Nevertheless, course contents are all the same in the long run. I did informations management which is in two parts namely quantitative data analysis (QDA) & Information systems (IS).

And if I understand you well, QDA is synonymous with your quantitative techniques/tools. Now, I did operations research (OR) at undergraduate level and I found QDA more challenging. therefore, in my own opinion, be it OR, QDA or quantitative techniques/tools like you highlighted. Its all statistics in a nut shell & supply chain management rely on statistics most of the time i.e. a well trained supply chain personnel must be able to read, understand & process data at a glance.

To be honest, I actually struggled a bit on your question on management science, but I think its synonymous with managing people & organisation (MPO) which was a compulsory elective module I ran. Some universities call it strategic management too, so don't get confused.

Furthermore, one of the most primary functions of a well managed SCM is cost optimisation. See the link below for more explanation of optimisation.

http://www.4eto.co.uk/SCM/supply-chain-optimisation-sco-pg1.asp

Please note that in as much as logistics is broad, its still a part of a total supply chain management system. Therefore all the information about SCM above applies to Logistics as well. Besides discourses have been raised in recent times by academics & consultants alike about a supply chain oriented Logistics management, most especially is port management and international logistics in general.

However, if you need more information about the importance of MPO, please let me know. There is just to much to write, so I summarised.

Fescope,

I was looking through the courses you listed earlier and did not see the statistics related courses like you mentioned about QDA. I guess you have studied very good stuff at your Uni. What course did you study at undergrad?

tanimola22: Everyone has contributed very well, no doubt. There are excellent graduates of state government universities, no gainsaying that fact. Abi it was @chamber2 that started a thread on one genius girl like that, a law graduate of one state government university. I think imsu or absu. She even came first at law school where there were graduates from anywhere and everywhere. I believe that there are many people like her at other state universities. However, in terms of significant proportions, I would like to hypothesize that there are more top students at federal government universities. To voice a previous poster, most competitive students opt for federal government schools. Apart from other advantages, the major advantage for this choice stems from the fact that federal government unis are almost free of charge. Why would a father pay 60k yearly for his son to attend a state school like anambra state university when he can send the son to nau awka or unn and pay much less? Anyway sha, there could be other hidden reasons which I am not privy to.

Meanwhile, it is very funny to assert that majority of the admitted students to unilag came in through the pricey diploma. This is the first time I am getting to hear about this. It doesn't sound real to me because diploma itself has standards. A student who does not meet these standards is normally not given the course he chose to study, even though he paid the diploma fees in full. In the worst of circumstances, the student is even refused a course if he performs woefully in all of his diploma courses. I know of diploma graduates constituting about 20%-30% of a given department, but this definitely does not sound like majority to me.

I agree with the fact that we need a standardized method of testing students. However, I fear that this method will also be bastardized with the same corruption that has eaten deep into our national fabric. Did you guys know that some people help others write the GRE, GMAT and TOEFL tests in niaja? This is a sad fact, but it is a fact. It used to be a former classmate's job and he earned a lot of money from the act until he decided to take the tests for himself and further his studies at Michigan. The guy wrote like two tests every weekend, at times even more, and he charged about 50K for TOEFL and between 60-80K for SAT/GRE/GMAT. This guy was living okay and even had a good car at that time when some of us never dreamed of owning our own cars besides those of our parents, brothers and sisters. Many of the people he wrote these tests for went ahead and attended very nice business schools. Some of them are doing oga in naija today.

Only God will save us.

T22

lol @ T22 on the bolded. I guess i bloated the meaning of majority.

AjanleKoko: ^^
But he eventually, went to Unilag, abi?

We are not (at least I am not) disputing that there are good students in every university.
But if you are a good student, good enough to pass any exam to enter any university, which one you go choose, Federal or State uni? Let's be honest here.

Well, i did not go to any but i would have chosen a Federal Uni of course and Unilag would be the place. There are many of my type there.

AjanleKoko:

You forgot to mention also, that the first class students of UNILAG are not in any of those categories that you're mentioning.
I know a few Unilag first class students. All of them were first choice picks in UME, and none of them scored below 250. None of them did the diploma.
Remember we are talking about the top 1-5% of the average class. Those people were smart enough to get into Unilag on merit, why would you be surprised at them making first class degrees?

One of the chaps I know is even an SSCE national award winner. In fact, this chap went on to do masters/Phd at Stanford, and works in one of the Big Oilcos (the one on the US West coast). You think that kind of guy is one of the 100/400 material?

Mind you, I didn't do my undergrad in Unilag oh, so I am not under any compulsions to defend them. In my opinion, there are smarter people at OAU. But let's say what it really is. You can't find those top-notch students in state universities.

While i believe we have to establish the real bone of contention here, i would not want to come across as a unilag detractor.

See, my belief is that there are good students in every institution in Nigeria. I remember how students study in Yaba College of Technology when i was a student there. It is easy to say that the students there were not Unilag worthy. Maybe because they did not pass JAMB?

I use this guy as an example: http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/02/22/after-three-attempts-at-jamb-exams-iziren-akhigbe-sets-new-record-with-his-4-98-cgpa-meet-university-of-lagos-2012-overall-best-graduating-student/

He did JAMB three times and could not get admission into Unilag. He did his National Diploma at YabaTech finished with Upper Credit but did not make Unilag. He later continued with his HND also with Upper Credit and at the end of the day, his Upper credit from YabaTech got him direct entry into Unilag. And finally graduated with the best GPA 4.98 in Unilag. Of course, he is a mech eng.

There are good student scattered around Nigeria, some won't necessarily score high enough in JAMB to get into Unilag but that does not mean they should be considered others. I have been on the street of Lagos seeing very good students who just did not make the list into Unilag one way or the other.

I hate to say this, but in as much as i don't see myself studying in another state than Lagos, i will not always agree that there aren't brainees from other Nigerian institutions.

Just saying.

AjanleKoko:

Remember that the people who passed JAMB very well are the people who went to those schools.
People that scored 270 and above, matched with straight As in WAEC (abi na NECO una dey call am now) will likely not have much trouble dismantling any so-called sadist lecturer.

The guys who went to the state unis are mostly the 'wounded' candidates.

Honestly, i am of the opinion that JAMB should not be the de facto exam to access universities' students standards. The exam is marred with great degree of malpractices. It does not mean that you won't do well after eventually getting admitted without been able to pass JAMB by ones ability. The effort the student puts in thereafter matters a lot.

I worked in Unilag for sometime in the past. Many of the students that i saw there cannot get 100/400 in the JAMB exam. When i was studying at Yaba College of Technology, many of my class mates who were not among the top 60% of my class passed JAMB and got admitted to University of Lagos. How did they do it? Yet when we see each other in town, the stories we keep hearing from our Unilag friends was how they were trying to maintain their first class and so on.

And again, remember that majority of the students admitted to Unilag also come from the so-called Diploma entry which cost over 250,000 as at 2006/7. Many of these students cannot pass the JAMB exam. Well, i actually know this because i was almost going to get admission to Unilag the same way.

My point is, the structure and curriculum of our education does not permit a joint national examination like JAMB. It is flawed on so many levels from bad secondary schools, uneven curriculum, bribery, geographical location etc.

Well, that does not also mean the good students of Unilag are not where they are. I have also met some of those.

fescope: @Fiver

Just a pointer, either a university calls it purchasing and Supply Chain Management or Logistics and Supply Chain Management or Operations and Supply Chain Management, I want you to know Supply Chain Management is Supply Chain Management. All you need to worry about is the modules these various universities offer on the course. For instance, I studied international supply chain & logistics management, had finance as one of my core modules, but I enjoyed it because I have an accounting background. on the contrary, a lot of guys with engineering background struggled and had to change their courses to IT for supply chain management which was more inclined to what they did for BSc. Besides it was easy for them to change their course because we all did the same modules except for one or two. Don't get me wrong, the best guy in finance in my class was actually an engineer with BAE systems. Its all about understanding your capabilities so that you can come out tops. I did not have operations management as my course title, yet we ran two distinct operation management modules. In short, the modules is all that matters.

The modules I did were as follows:

Operations management, Strategic operations management, supply chain management, managing people & Organisation, Information management (quantitative data analysis & information systems), Logistics, strategic outsourcing, International logistics and finance for SCM.

@Fescope,

Did you do quantitative techniques/tools during your studies? I mean Operations Research or Management Science? Optimization?

Do you know about them? If you did not, do you know their importance to Logistics?

Y,

nitrogen:

A very good initiative but i hope it wont be like those promises made before that were sparingly or never fulfilled, like the 1700 buses, which the ones released out of all never did precipitated the whole of the FCT. What we want is 'we have' and not 'we will'.
Btw, why is it that our president keeps setting up committees on matters(on ground and arising)?


P.S Am sowi for the digression.

Of course, it is a digression but seeing promises/news like this from our government gives one a lot to think about like the issue you have just raised. Maybe we should give them a benefit of doubt on this one.

taio luv: Hello my people, A̶̲̥̅♏ so sad, pls I need advice on what to do, I register Ƒor cips exam dis 2012 Ƒor july but unfortunately Ƒor me I didnt get my postal letter from cips on time due to d mail box I used, I got d letter yestaday and saw I was registered to do d exam 2wks ago, and I didnt even get dia emails stating wen to do d exam.

Can I write to cips stating this misunderstanding and send my evidence that I didnot register for may but Ƒor july exam,if D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ can still let me do it in november cause I don't want to loose my money fro the exam.☹☹

Contact them already to clear it out. You will be wasting more time if you expect to get an answer on this forum

tanimola22:

Hi,

The likes of PTDF and co already employ your well-thought-out strategy. But you know, naija universities need more high flyers to teach university students in order to stimulate many top and hardworking graduates to pursue a lifetime career in research/lecturing. I think this is the unmentioned angle the FG is viewing things from.

[b]By the way, these high flyers can get scholarships to study at the most high ranking universities across the world without the help of the FG. I cannot begin to mention the number of top naija Engineering/Science graduates who got excellent scholarships to study at the very top research universities across the globe. [/b]These graduates got no help from their departments and the FG. Street smart first class graduates know how to heap top scholarships if that is what they want. I am sure the FG would not offer a stipend of more than $23K-$32K per annum, which is what any competitive university in the US pays its PhD students. If fact, schools like Yale and Stanford pay close to $37K, and there are other universities that pay around this same amount. Why then would an informed student, who can get this stipend, go ahead and sign a bond that will restrict him/her? Perhaps the answer is 'because of patriotism'.

The FG is just trying to do attache and will force recipients of this new scholarship to sign a bond that will compel them to come back and lecture in Naija even though they have better offers elsewhere. I know people that have rejected such department/government/university funded scholarships because, according to them, they wanted their professional freedom.

Your strategy sounds very right. Reducing the grade requirement and subjecting everyone to the same selection test will help those who would otherwise never dream of such a fully funded scholarship opportunity. Not all less-than-first-class degree holders would fail tests written with first class graduates. So, if the playing field can be made uniform, people with lower grades will also benefit from FG's assistance.

On the whole sha, the FG should allow all students apply independently to the world's top universities and then fund those students who are able to get admitted into programs that interest the FG. This sounds like a level playing field to me. The very best universities don't admit anybody into their research programs. There must be indications that you can pass PhD course work and progress in your research. These schools are crazily selective.

T22

@ T22, I especially approve of those highlighted in your explanation.

The Federal government is just misplacing priorities at this time. I don't think this is the way to improve the standard of our education.

You and I and other Nigerians everywhere know we can write a thousand pages of ways to bring back those glorious days when schooling in Nigeria was a thing of pride and not just a phase that has to be fulfilled righteously.

But what i don't know is how our presidential advisers keep coming up with fire brigade approach to issues that need a complete re-engineering. I hope it does not get to a stage where all our PhDs cannot catch up with the other serious countries of this world.

dabigwalls:
@KelsKelly...I apologise. I didn't mean any insults.
@Mustay...you apparently just started dancing. The question was put to Kelskelly. It seems you were apparently not following. Kelskelly has also responded.
@yemmy ma...I am not interested in joining issues with you because you are attempting to shift the focus. GT Bank or Masters is the issue at hand. Not your discussions about whether MBA or BSc has value or not.
Maybe school should be scrapped altogether. Afterall Bill Gates and a host of others didn't need it to make it big. Anyone can break through I agree, but the propensity in a certificate driven Nigerian business environment is to equip yourself as much as you can. Even the certificates are failing what about the certificateless? Pls let's be real here in offering solutions.

@OP I will give you a few insights. The University of Hull has one of the best business schools in all of northern england. The Business School and their Law are a force to reckon with. Huge investments were made in the supply and logistics arm of the MBA as Hull is a coastal town with a lot of logistis potentials. The economic crunch has hit everywhere! It is not permanent, a boom will soon come again and then besides experience, qualifications will be brought to consideration. Trust me, it will hit you right in your face and you will realise that given the opportunity you have now, when global economies pick up, it was an error to have chosen GT now. It is golden handcuff coz once you get into the banking hole...

Above all pray to God for direction. I am talking from my own experience but yours can be better. A little more insight, I was discouraged from leaving my banking job coz I was offered 5.2M/annum then.I chose to make hay while the sun was shining. I left. Got to the Hull MBA and finished tops in class by God's grace.
There was NO JOB for 12 months of completion. But by the 13th month, it's a driver, a maiguard, a car, my modest income and I have opportunity to affect lives through employment. People in the same organisation after 15 years are barely this lucky. Don't let anybody fool you paper qualification doesn't matter o. It's a lie. God helped me. He will help you.

I am not also interested in dragging issues with you as well. If you have noticed, i did not make any comment on this particular post because similar topics have been treated in the past. Although this Ops case looks unique because of his career switch. All i meant to say to you was that you don't condemn others peoples humble opinion just because you sharing yours. No one knows what will work out best for the Op, we all just giving calculated suggestions based on how we think the Op should approach the decision.

No hard feelings bro! You will do better by desisting from making overly authoritative opinions in the future when all you are giving is just an advice.

dabigwalls: @Kelskelly...with BSc, one is jobless because millions and zillions have it. One differentiator is a Masters. An MBA is even more professionally deep for people with business interests and managerial roles. If he could get a job with his BSc with GT, why will it be more difficult with an MBA?

Shebi we say there are no jobs? Go Yankee, Go Jand, there are no jobs you all say so why does this post exist in the first place? This post is about a job somebody got!!! Why are you all crying wolf?? Are you saying he becomes perpetually doomed if he does not forgo this one year's pay with GT to return as an improved thinker?

Is he worse off with an MBA after one year if he returns to Nigeria? Do you have a Masters? I will be interested in your answer because if your answer is yes then you must be selfish, if it is a no, then you are half - informed.

@OP, total pay of 200K/annum is max 2.4M/annum. You studied anatomy and you seriously think one year with a good degree to back up your business interest will be suicidal? Think twice, go to Hull and enrol for the Systems Thinking course. Come back and laugh at people who would have deprived you of such globally acclaimed thought and education.

Deep calleth unto deep.

I don't know why people like you always make claim of what is not exactly proven. No one here on this forum can give an insight into what this Op will turn out to be. Everybody is giving opinions on what they think might work out well for the Op based on others experiences they have seen or heard about.

Now, for your information, B.Sc or M.Sc or MBA that you are screaming loud here about is not a bad thing to strive for but does not mean that other people in this world will be unsuccessful if they don't have it. Generalizing statements like you have made here is brutal.

My biggest mentor in life was a seasoned accountant during his prime in the civil service. I doubt how he came into that profession. But all i know is that he never came into the field with a standard B.Sc. He trains people of all ages and gives speeches at seminars and conferences to thousands of people in the public service.

Another top Supply Chain guy in the U.K who only started out working as a freelance worker did not add a B.Sc to his name. Today, he has in his locker room important skills any continuous improvement manager should possess. Talk about it CSCMP, APICS, ISM, he had none of that through out his career. And he is still on top of his game. Experience, he always told was far more important when it comes to his field but he never refuted the advantage of having the requisite educational training before going into the industry.

For all i know, Tanimola22 has given the Op a very sound analysis of what a proper exit strategy should be whatever decision he decides to make. Of course, other suggestions are welcomed.

But why is it that only sciences and engineering the only fields included? Are the Arts and social sciences first class graduate not needed in Nigeria?

Gilbertmandoski: 1.No. Head of tailors
2l dont undst second question

What courses rather study instead of accounting?

Abuja – President Goodluck Jonathan on Thursday inaugurated a special post-graduate scholarship scheme for all university graduates with a first class degree.

Inaugurating a 10-man steering committee for the take off of the scheme, at the State House, Abuja, Jonathan decried the dearth of qualified academic staff in the tertiary institutions.

He said that 60 per cent of lecturers in the 124 universities across the country had no Doctorate Degree, noting that the situation “is embarrassing and un-acceptable’’.

“The information I got from the Executive Secretary of the National Universities Commission (NUC) is that about 60 per cent of our academic staff in our universities don’t have PhD. that is quite embarrassing, I belief the Professors here will also feel bad.

‘’We have 124 universities, Federal, States and private and that is not good enough.

‘`I will set up an inter-ministerial department to work with some of you in the academics to come up with policies for robust training so that young men and women who are interested in academics could go anywhere in the world, that over the years we must bridge that gap.’’

The President said the initiative, which he conceived while as Governor, was aimed at building human resources for sustainable development and national transformation.

He said the committee would commence the programme by selecting 100 beneficiaries on merit for post graduate scholarship in science and engineering courses in the best institutions in the world.

“Every year, we should tap from among our best brains, selecting our best brains, we are starting with 100 because we have not made adequate arrangement for funding but the number will increase when we make budgetary allocation for it in 2013.

“We select our best brain in the area of science, engineering and some areas of economics and expose them to the best facilities available in the world.

“The ministry of education and this committee will have to travel to these universities to negotiate for positions in the top 25 universities in the world.

“The idea is for you to benefit you must have a first class. It is based purely on merit, no quota. We are giving opportunity for best brains.’’

President said the beneficiaries of the scheme would, on completion of their studies, be mandated to work for the country for a period of five years as lecturers or researchers before they could be allowed to go in to their chosen careers.

Jonathan tasked members of the committee to ensure transparency and merit in the choice of the prospective candidates.

Responding, the committee’s Chairman, Prof Julius Okojie, thanked the President for the appointment and assured him that they would deliver on their mandate.

Other members of the committee include the Executive Secretary of Tertiary Education Trust Fund, Prof Mahmood Yakubu, Dr Jamaila Shuara and Mrs Iddatu Abdullahi of the Federal Schorlarship Board.

The rest are Professors Musa Alabe, Mohammed Sule , Mohammed Onogu, Olurotimi Tayo, William Okowa and Ikenna Onyibe.

The Deputy Director, Tertiary Education in the Federal Ministry of Education, will serve as Secretary.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/jonathan-inaugurates-scholarship-scheme-for-first-class-graduates/

unfortunately, it was not easy going through this post. I tried cherry picking the content but still could not stand the length of the piece.

Op, next time try make it short so that we can grasp the message easily.

yamakuza: And i was really looking forward to discussing The Sociology of Complex Organisations, Using Nairaland As A Case Study.

Oh, well!

hehehehe, well you will wait for long on that.

AjanleKoko:

At this, I had to go back and re-read the OP . . .

Well, i tried to use one stone to kill two owls. lol. if you get my drift?