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BraniacX:
Was he all that? or just maybe your imagination of that Disneyland inch perfect prince charming?
Grow past Disney romance darling GRRM never creates flawless characters
My condolences on ruining that perfect image for you

He wasn't perfect, but he was darn close. And that's better than most entitled high-borns

Gbola5:
Yes !! The number of Mad Targaryens is fewer than the number of Targaryens that existed. Paranoia, attention, arrogance, pride, desperation was usually the cause of their insane acts. Raise someone up thinking he is the "king of the jungle" and that all other animals should bow down to him; that he can do as he likes; that was the way Joff was brought up. Cersei never expected Tommen or Myrcella to ever wear a crown, so she didn't treat them the same. Robert also neglected Joff. One time Joff ripped open a pregnant cat to take out the kitten, and showed it to Robert, he beat Joff so bad he almost killed him. That should have been a sign to them, that this boy had psychopathic tendencies, but still he was neglected. Then a crown got placed on his head.

Or maybe the madness trait that usually skipped a few targaryens (except of course The Mad King and Viserys) was recessive in Tommen and Myrcella's case. But was present in Joff's genes in spades.

I saw a theory on Youtube, that Gendry is really Cersei's child with Robert. The one she claimed died of a fever when he was barely days old. The guy had some really detailed explanation and points to back up his claim.

kay9:
All you children of summer and your fanciful predictions and deductions, I almost envy you your excitement... Jon Snow will do this, Dany will do that, Sansa is now this, Arya has become that.... Yonce even declared that Jon is destined to save the world. Destined.

*smh*

Pay heed if you will: NOTHING is certain. The White Walkers may yet conquer the whole of Westeros. Any man (or woman), including Jon Snow, may die... or may live. Either way, it makes zero difference to the many-faced god.

This alone is known.

Tf does the many faced god has to do with Jon or anyone elses' destiny?

Gbola5:
There are lot of theories going on about this. Dany herself thinks she's barren and can't remember the last time she bled in the last ADWD chapter. GRRM will shed more light on this or leave it unresolved for fan speculations.

I thought she bled in her last POV in ADWD

Gbola5:
That's all part of Westerosi Folklore. Joffrey is cruel because of his upbringing.

Tommen and Myrcella had a different upbringing from him?

PR3ACHER:
I have gotten the 5 books, I'll start reading from tomorrow

Knock yourself out!!

Gbola5:
Hasn't there been a number of those already ? GRRM promised a bittersweet ending not a love story.

I need a lil clarification, is it possible for Dany to get pregnant again? Or is she barren?

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

PR3ACHER:
Do you think it's possible for Jon Snow and Khaleesi to fall in love or something.... GRRM promised a love story before the TV Show comes to an end and we haven't seen any!

Jon and Dany, one word-Ew.

Coyotejack:
We wouldn't know how he would turn out could be even be a worse ass than joffery

Joffery was an àss because his parents were siblings.

Incestuous breeds have been known to have loose screws in Westeros. E.g Targaryens

If Jon were Robert's child and a true stag, he wouldn't be remotely mad.

ModusOperandi:
One boy wrote me a love letter in JS2, and his friend somehow found it. He now suggested that I report to the principal, otherwise it'll be like I'm indulging him. I didn't want him to think I liked it so I agreed, he followed me to the principal's office but then i grew cold feet and left .

That I even considered reporting him cracks me up everytime I remember

Heartbreaker since preteen years!!!

Isomerizm:
Jon that doesn't even know what he wants. Rhaegar should have pulled out.

GMan650:
I love the sound of 'Baratheon', it suits Jon better than Targaeyan. Even Jon's charcter is more of a Baratheon than Targaeyan

Jon looks more Stark than Baratheon or Targaryen.

GRRM probably made him have more of his mother's features because Ned couldn't very well pass off a white haired child with lilac eyes as his own bastard now could he?

JhyMedex:
U dis geh no come confuse me o....
I Neva read the books finish.. I'm still on d fourth book...A FEAST FOR CROWS

Am speaking purely based on the TV Series ...

And abt d case of Jon Snow.. I'm presuming u saying he's the rightful king coz of his Dad Rhaegar...

Bt I'll say dts not d way Monarchy works.. The Targaryean Dynasty was crushed by the Baratheons... After the defeat of the Targaryeans a new dynasty was established... The Baratheon Dynasty..

Jon wld av had a claim provided the Targaryean dynasty was still dominant.. Bt as dide is nt d case.. I'll say he doesn't av any business wit d Iron throne...

Shey u get contrary point?.. ..

Jon's destiny is much bigger than ruling the Crazy Seven Kingdoms.

Rhaegar risked his life and throne to conceive Jon. Jon might just be the Prince that was promised.
He's destined to save the world from eternal darkness (White Walkers) and not to rule from the Iron throne in the south

JhyMedex:
True dt... He was jst a dimwit weakling.. he was nowhr near d line if succession.. yet he had to bring his Stvpid self in2 d game if thrones..

Come to think of it.. since Geoffrey n Tommen were Neva rily King Robert's Kids..
The Rightful king of Westeros was Stannis !!!

No it's Jon Snow.

PR3ACHER:
The last time I checked, Yonce said the TV Show is ahead of the Book.

Yes but there's a lot of backstory only the books can give you. And since the show is an adaptation of the books, it can adapt certain things from the books that haven't appeared on the show yet (especially in Bran's visions for example) so technically it could be a spoiler.

Very complicated.

monerozi5590:
Danilo is on his way to Man City, news to be confirmed in few hours time.

That's one less own goal to worry about.

Pharoh:
Morata is way better than Mbappe and i have been checking the news to see that PSG signs Mbappe. I seriously don't want that guy in madrid, we are covered adequately upfront already.

That fixture is not so bad to me but the first half is when we really need to perform before going for the world club cup. The fixtures next year is really packed so lets do well in the first half and see how it goes.

Our main goal for next year is to perform domestically especially to retain la liga, we have seen and done it all in the champions league.

I'll be more than satisfied with a domestic double.

Champions league will just be the pizzazz of our campaign if we should still retain it.

BraniacX:
What was it that smote you about him? The silver hair? Or is it his purple eyes? Or his sonorous voice?
What was your downfall? I know what i like in Danny

Downfall- Everything

Bookish. Played the music of angels. Hair of Silver. Purple eyes. Private. A Skilled Fighter. Wise.

Rhaegar was also affected by the shadow of Summerhall, because he was " born in grief " and was considered melancholic at times. . . . .

He was loved by all and wasn't a huge fan of violence.

Best thing yet, the show hasn't ruined his image by casting a random actor with near features and not perfect features.

GMan650:
Robert doesn't give a damn. He's all about the fun, I don't think he cared about the throne in the first place, it was Rhaegar's kidnapping and crowning of Lyanna as QOLAB that infuriated Robert to rebel.

How I wish Jon Snow was his son with Lyanna instead of Rhaegar

Uh, why?

BraniacX:
sounds like you two (baelish) will get on just fine together
Imagination and conjecturing fings

I'm just trying to fill in the possible gaps in the story.
GRRM doesn't give us Rhaegar lovers a lot to work with.

PR3ACHER:
Did Sansa become Queen of the North in the book ?

So far No.

The show is miles ahead of the books now. GRRM is taking his time.

BraniacX:
assume a tad bit too much don't you? Why don't we stick to facts instead?
#fact how land reed was riding when he arrived at the tower of joy
#fact howland reed was a lord to be born to a lord, except samwell tarly, they all are trained by their fathers master at arms from a very young age
#fact not much was said about him before harrenhall, so we can't say he could not ride or he could for certain and if he could where and when he learned, but seeing as he rode into battle when Ned called his banners, the argument for he could ride trumps yours

But when Meera told Bran the story, she said crannogmen didn't have the skills the Knight of the laughing tree possessed.

My theory is Howland learned how to wield a sword and ride a horse properly after this incident. It's doesn't speak well of a high born if mere squires bullied you and a 15 year old girl came to your rescue.

he was a crannogman so yes naturally he wasn't predisposed to war, and his pursuits and adventures indicate that unlike most men his age, he like his son jojen, had more interest in the history and mysticism of the old religion than in war and for all that, crannogmen like all other men wage war when required as their history would indicate that they have previously been at war with the starks, the Boltons, the freys, with andal invaders alongside the starks and the boltons so that squashes your presumption..............again!

Again why allow squires bully him? He was of high birth (his family ruled the Neck then, still do)
How did Howland go from being tossed in the mud by squires to unseating three trained Knights?!
Where did the skills suddenly come from?

BraniacX:
A map would help you here

I checked the map, Harrenhal looks much closer to King's Landing as the crow flies.

Coyotejack:
*nods in agreement *

the war between the living and the dead

PS has little finger seen a wights or whitewalker before??

I doubt he's even heard of one.

He's too busy sniffling Sansa's Stark and painting pictures of himself on the Iron Throne.

PR3ACHER:
I just read Yonce 's diary, damn... she's too deep!!! and her use of word, DAMN. GRRM should sign you in to write some of his script mehn! I hail!

Thank you.

Dlordsamurai:
what the fork am i reading in this thread. that barcelona will suffer at the hands of madrid next season, just becaus neymar wants to leave? neymar is an important player, 'no doubt' but b4 neymar came to barcelona, i remembered that barcelona defeated madrid with pedro 5 goals to zero, we defeated them in semi finals of champions league and we have been destroying them b4 neymar came. AND that is what we will continue to do irrespective of which player we buy to replace him. "ONE thing about barcelona is that our style of play makes it difficult 4 clubs to defeat us. "so whether neymar stays or leave, barcelona remains a formidable force. what we need now is the rejuvination of lamasia, our youth system needs to be given attention.

Guy!!! You must either be a very determined troll or just plain delusional

HyDef:
There's gonna be some tension between her and Jon in coming episodes. She's already going against his decisions, which he's obviously not very receptive towards.

She has proven herself right before though, in that Jon shouldn't have attempted retaking Winterfell without enough men. She also convinced him that Ramsay giving up Rickon was nothing but a trick. Which it was, Jon charged, which was against their whole battle strategy.

Both Jon and Sansa are growing up, and at the same time, both becoming quite headstrong. I have an image of Sansa using Petyr's guile to knock Jon off the throne.

I'm sure after everything Sansa has gone through in the hands of filthy game players like Littlefinger, the last thing she'd want is to betray the only family (she thinks) she has left. . . Half brother or not.

They should come to a compromise. There's a bigger war coming and I doubt either one would be willing to have a power struggle in their own camp.

Nihilist:
It was only after you mentioned 'fangirl' that I clocked the Bey reference

I only ever saw you in the sports section trolling bykebyke.

Just scrolled through your diary and ran into diggz there. Dude knew you were a girl all along and kept the info to himself. Mofo.

Your writing is quality though. A bit too melancholy for me, but the prose itself is top notch.

You're a pretty deep sounding person, how the hell did you find yourself slumming it with us mad people in the sports section?

I'm crazy for sports. Crazier for Ronaldo and all things Madrid.

Guess that means I'm mad too.

kay9:
You're a girl?? Ahh, suddenly all your opinions make sense now. I hereby unreservedly apologize for trying to stop you from mixing facts with assumptions and sentiment.

I'm not mixing facts with sentiments. The Rhaegar-Lyanna story has been presented to us in bits and pieces. . . .I am only filling the gaps with possible scenerios based on what I've read about the characters.

And I firmly believe they were in love, eloped and got married. At least until George Martin says otherwise.

Nihilist:
Yonce is a girl

You're fücking kidding me...

Uh. beYONCE?!

I thought it was obvious

kay9:
Na so.

Yes. It is so

GMan650:
Nope cos she thinks she has seen it all and can make excellent decisions AND she thinks she has learnt a great deal from Cersei on how to become a powerful woman.

Well she has seen a lot. From King's Landing to the Vale to a Bolton ruled Winterfell to the wall. I think she's capable of making a few decisions on matters comcerning the North seeing as she's the eldest surviving Stark.