Zikora1000:
'who may not necessarily be Fulani' what is the Oni insunating and why is he not calling a spade what it is? How I wish say na abaribe waka dis journey, he will tell the cow president to caution his fellow herdsmen oh ah!

What is a spade he needs to call? Should he tell the president that the Yoruba should kill all the herdsmen at sight?

He already told the president loud and clear that we will not condone the activities of the Fulani herdsmen in the SW and he even cited a case where the Alafin of Oyo set up local securities where several fulanis were arrested and handed over to the authorities.

In theory, diplomacy solves a lot of thing and you don’t necessarily need to resort to abuse or become flagrant to achieve your aim.

Because you guys believe in flagrant speeches does not imply other people should follow suit. Everyone has a way of achieving their aim, you chose your method while the Yoruba nation chooses theirs. Simple as ABC

selemempe:
nzeogwu was no hero. He was a misguided young man. Exuberant and brash

I was just trying to say the military thought when they rescue power form the politicians that Nigeria will be good, although I’m of the believe that Nzeogwu coup is more tribalistic due to the fact that most people Murdered are from a different tribe.

Nigeria should have been left for the foreign trained politicians to manage at that time ( Awolowo, Azikwe, etc.), Coz the military have no business handling the government.

We would have progressed more if we do not fall int the trap of the military at a time when Nigeria was still young and needed a well established system.

datingman:
nigerian hero

He might be a hero at that time, but they are all the genesis of the failure of the country called Nigeria

MoneyMan5:



I suspect that Guy is not Yoruba

He sound like one of the Nyamiri

I just figured it out now that he’s really from the erosion ravaged region, I won’t engage him like a Yoruba again, coz it’s sure he’s an OSU troll

alexvatt:
U are a fool, are u comparing urself with Japan, UK. Don't u know the reason u are backward in Africa is ur mindsets. What I mean is cultures need to be amended for u to go far in life. I didn't say there is no culture.

You are the biggest fool here, what yardstick are you using to judge the culture as archaic?

What are your arguments that support that the culture is barbaric?

How do you benchmark cultures to know which is barbaric or noble?

You are really demented to even call me a fool when I was just engaging in a logical argument with you.

Rubbish!

alexvatt:
Barbaric culture can be abolished. Cultures have been holding us down in Africa. The reason we are not advancing as a continent.

What is barbaric in the culture? Do you even know the meaning of barbaric.

Quick one, tell me a country in the world that doe not have a culture.

Even in China that is developing at a fast pace, culture is still evident in all ways of life.

Below is Obama bowing to the emperor of Japan, he might be American but he respects the culture of other countries.

OladimejiRufai:




Oh! what a pity


Why do I pity you? Because I know that you will feel very pained considering how much efforts u exerted to write all of that and eventually you realise that I am actually a yoruba boy and not Ijaw


Or which tribe in Nigeria do you think has the name Oladimeji??


I know u are pained now. Sorry ehn! Talk to any doctor on Nairaland ASAP. i hope u find help Dont cry oo

Shut up Osu brethren. You ain’t a Yoruba and it’s evident you are part of the online urchins recruited by your Osu paymasters to propagate your hate campaigns and most of you resort to using Yoruba names to justify your statements.

Your text betrayed you and it’s clearly evident that you are from the erosion ravaged region.

alexvatt:
I'm a Yoruba man, that nonsense should be removed from our culture. Prostrating for a King is absolutely nonsense. They don't deserve such respect. Imagine Chief Olusegun Obasanjo prostrating for Alaafin Oyo in present of his numerous young wifes. It is absolutely nonsense. What problems have Kings solve in Yoruba race than marrying wifes with tax payers money.

That is the culture bro. We are trying to keep the culture alive because culture is a living thing.

Even in England, the queen is respected, does that make that archaic?

You should be proud of your culture because no culture is superior, trying to question the motive behind prostrating to the king won’t affect anything, it’s just what it is.

Jaynom:
you can hate Reno but you can't deny he's right! Muslims go chop this critic Raw! The will annihilate him and his family Tree!

How many critics has been annihilated by the Muslims in Nigeria?

Mention three with proof

The real General!

Although OBJ was brutal and sometimes exterminate his citizens (Odi and Zaki Biam) when he was president but I have learnt to know that tough situation deserve tough tactics and for people to obey you they have to fear you.

If the bandit arm of the Fulani herdsmen knows they will be shot at sight they will try to keep their heads down but my fear is that those guys do NOT even fear death, so it might be fire for fire with the military and in no time Nigeria will be a killing field.

It’ll be hard to use this tactics of shoot at sight for all Fulani herdsmen with cows coz some of them are still innocent, and killing them at sight will be inhumane, barbaric, devilish, and a sin against humanity.

The best way is to make it be like any Fulani herdsmen seen with guns, weapons, suspected to have a hidden agenda, trying to evade or any slight signal of chaos should be SHOT at sight once and for all.

Or better still make a promulgation that open grazing should be banned for the mean time all over the South pending the time this menace will be solved.

Nawa o, Fulani people don enter wahala from guys o.

People don dey para gan o.

Nice initiative

All of you guys on here attacking the OP what is really your aim? Don’t you all know both Buhari and Atiku are the same Fulani guys with the same mindset tho with different ways of showing it.

Did Atiku ever condemned the Fulani herdsmen killings happening all around the country, has he ever lent a voice to all these inhuman activities of these herdsmen?

You Igbos voted overwhelmingly for Atiku while the Yoruba gave Buhari a slight win, so why all these constant rubbish ego tripping that both Igbo and Yoruba are constantly engaged in on Nairaland.

I don’t understand Hausa, but I sometimes use translator to check their comments online and what those guys always spit out is damn dangerous to the south. I know we Igbos and Yorubas got our ego and but I think it’s time to stop this constant rubbish.

Instead of Ango Abdullahi to condemn the activities of the herdsmen, he went on to say they should retreat to the north thereby trying to claim fulanis are the victims.

Patrioticman007:


The Billions spent on giving Niger Delta Militants Amnesty and Trillions it cost Nigeria on arming our Army . Na Tithes for your church abi ?. Hypocrisy by the church as usual, please don't coza us I beg.

I have told you I’m a Muslim and I need no validation from you to accept that fact. The resources of the naija delta militants are being used for the benefits of Nigeria as a whole. Their lands are polluted and they have been subdued coz virtually no good land for farming. Yet, they do not go about killing everyone around the country.

Let’s be factual bro, the north is every thing wrong with a society, i know you wouldn’t want to accept the fact coz you’re a northerner, as I would not accept when someone is trying to insult the Yoruba race.

But the best thing to do when you know people are telling you the truth is to let things pass and try to make use of some of the advice.

The moment your elders start waking up to reality that something is really wrong, the better for you.

Ma Salam.

selemempe:
yorubahero12 are u hearing it? I was arguing with u ystday about islam in nigeria and how it has ruined nigeria....u were defending ur faith...unfortunate that this aboki doesnt even consider u and other yoruba muslims as equals.

Mr. While pastors are raping ppl and getting denounced by christians...imams, shieks and emirs are sponsoring terrorism and getting glorified....hw else can one explain that a mass murder like danfodio is ur most celebrated figure? I dont even wanna talk about underage marriage

@the bolded, we all know that is a lie and that’s hasty generalization, how many times have you seen a southern Muslim blow themselves up? How many cases of underage marriages have you witnessed in the south from the Muslims? How exactly do the south celebrate Dan fodio, who is Dan fodio by the way to be celebrated? This is not much of a religion issue but cultural issue which always reflect in religious practice.

You just gotta separate the north from the south when you’re trying to analyze religion. Most of you guys don’t know islam got to Yorubaland through the Malians through trade, that was why it is called Esin Imale ( religion of the malians) by our fore fathers.

You should try to differentiate some of the people of the north that are very toxic and radical in their practice of Islam from the southerners that would rather live in peace with their Christian neighbors.

Dan Fodio is not a celebrated figure among the southern Muslims or where are you getting your report from?

I don’t know what he meant by calling me Kafir, who is Kafir between me and him? Do we have to take up arms to show we practice religion or have to slain my fellow countrymen to show I’m Godly?

I usually feel sorry for the north, coz I can’t imagine what the peaceful ones among them are facing every single day they breathe on earth. The earlier we know it’s more of ethnic issue than religion the Better for us.

Patrioticman007:


A KAFIR will always be a KAFIR irrespective of his camouflage. An infidel spotted, claiming to be a Muslim.
There is no tribalism in Islam.

I won’t engage you in trying to drag Islam to the argument.

There is no tribalism in Islam, but when a brother keep projecting Islam in a bad light, then a sensible person had to disassociate with a cruel brother and choose his own Islam.

Is it only the north? You are intolerant, practicing the religion in a cruel way, no tolerance, Boko haram ideology, now Fulani herdsmen, shite wahala, Almajiri.

Why can’t the northern elders wade into the situation, why do they remain mute to all this happening, why must it be the north 70% of the time?

Dandsome:



Your brothers here are coming for your head.

Watch your back

I really don’t care what people say, the North need to change from all these type of brutal ways, I know the south got our shortcoming also but when you check the statistics of killings in Nigeria, you will know the north have ruined Nigeria more than the south.

Imagine the amount we are spending on Boko haram since 2005, now herdsmen menace is growing bit by bit, shite too will soon grow more toxic, all those money can be used to build this country but we are expending then on rubbish fightings and sending our soldiers to hades everyday.

I am a Muslim from the south. Some of these Northern Muslim are everything wrong with society, fanatics, brutal, deadly, radicals and everything a religion shouldn’t be. Both shite and Sunni included.

I have learnt some things in life, which is that religion is a function of the culture or let’s say ethnicity. If normally a ethnic group shows a kind of wicked barbaric way, it will affect the religion and make it toxic.

Only North, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen, Almajiris, intolerance for fellow human being coz of religious affiliation, dominating yet with no visible achievements.

What amazes me is that they have the sultan, Emir and elder statesmen that can intercede with the government or talk to their people but they always like to remain silent and see situation deteriorates. Or what explain why the Sultan is quiet with all the herdsmen palaver and this shite constant protest if not that they condone all this.

You northerners just keep making me wonder whether we serve the same God or yours is different from the south.

No matter how MURIC tries to defend the Muslim faith, they still most times use analogy and does not threaten to kill or show a radical way of reasoning likewise CAN also most times accuse the government With logical argument devoid of threatening to kill or destroy government properties.

Now I’m starting to think maybe we should just leave this union with the North.

pchukwudi:
1) Trump has the biggest political clout, fund and support in the US today. He will win 2020 in landslides.

2) NONE of those people you mentioned love the US nor care about the interest of the people of their own countries. And NONE of them is popular in their home countries, talk less of matching Trump in effectiveness. They are hated in their home countries because they have no kids of their own and therefore no stake in the future of their respective countries and therefore are not emotionally hooked with their people as Trump is with true Americans.

They hate the US. Exploit her. Want her weaker. Fraternize with China, Iran (and even Russia). Neglected to pay their fair share for NATO until Trump brought in the big stick. Connived with Obama to trap America in bogus climate and Iran deals that would have moved the US to bankruptcy, give China unfair competitive edge, and empower Iran with nuclear power. These are all in a bid to weaken the US, empower China, and eventually build an EU super state.

So, thank you. But Trump is God's gift to America for a time like this. I've seen folks in Canada and the UK who crave they could get a leader with even half the balls of Trump.

More importantly, all sane and freedom loving people from around the world love and adore Trump very deeply. They understand that a stronger/greater America means a freer and safer world.

But you'll never know any of these though if you watch is CNN.

Nawa o bro. All this you quoted seems to be a fragment of your own imagination , maybe you’ve watched too much Fox News.

I don’t even want to debate the many wrongs of Trump Caz what is even my benefit to engaging in this discourse. Good that you support Trump and all his unethical and racial profiling coupled with bullying other people just because they are different.

@ the bolded, I beg to differ, folks in UK and Canada will never pray for someone like Trump, just go online on popular Canadian platform and listen to opinion concerning trump. Even as much as UK citizens loathe Theresa May, they will not pray for someone like trump. Go online, talk to people living in those countries and gather real data and not just fixated on Fox News.

You have your own reasons and I’ll just respect your opinion. But try to talk to people here in the states, families and you will get the true situation. You won’t feel the pain when you are miles ahead. You really won’t.

Peace

Deepthoughts:
ok,just vote him out next time but remember perfection only exist in heaven where God is the king n the angels are his subjects.

I don’t even have the right to vote yet, so I can’t vote, I can only run public commentary and that’s all.

What I say do not change anything, the decision to elect him stand with the American people and they will deem fit what to do.

pchukwudi:
Well, just try to find out yourself.

Pay attention to their stand on Israel, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, just to name a few. That's as opposed to the US official policies on those issues.

Also focus on the connection two of them have with Muslim Brotherhood, and the open defiance one of them shows to the US policies, the Jews, and core American values in favor of a group of terrorist sympathizers.

Start from Twitter.

Lol, can you show me the stance of the Democrats on Iran, North Korea, and the current trump US policy? Trump is currently sanctioning allied countries with trade sanctions, he is trying to frustrate NATO countries, he is believing Russia and denying American intelligence, he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal that was backed by EU, he is siding with a tyrant in North Korea, what exactly do you mean by being anti-American?

I wouldn’t talk about Israel coz I don’t like meddling into issues like that, we are on this topic and I’ll remain on the topic of discourse.

Adakintroy2:


My friend wake up and smell the truth of this world or someone will wake you up one day. There is no such thing as uprightness among men. No body believe that bullshiit. Islam extremists have been fighting america for yrs because of their imperialist ways. Many believe that they took out ghadafi for oil..America is the single greatest con artist in this world. We know but a we still say they are better than the lots. I will rather have America as world power than Chinese l, Russia, germany, or japan.

In

Aside what is stopping blacks knowing there history to come back home as developers. The whites once did it for us.

Let it be a wake of call for our leaders and us. You did no become independent so you can be free to depend on other nations. You go person house go chop you Wan tell am were to cut meat.

Did you know some of those congresswomen are born in America and they lived most of their life in america. They schooled in America, lived the American dream, contested for the post and faced the ballot, they are elected by Americans to represent them. They are American and they will always be.

The verdict is not with Trump to tell them if they are American or not, it is the American people that will judge that and not just someone in the White House.

Deepthoughts:
It's alright,you can go up the oval office in the white house n educate Mr Trump you know,as for me if you don't find the rules in my house cool enough for you,just take a walk especially when I didn't invite you,if not your eyes gonna see it n your body gonna feel it

Lol it dosen’t work that way. The USA is a very diverse country and it’s strength lies in its diversity and the ability to give everyone a chance irrespective of the country of origin.

I don’t know what news people in Nigeria listen to but I know if you reside here you won’t have the kind of mindset you hold about him.

He’s trying his best for his country and excelling to some extent, but he always erode his gains by being a constant bully and ridiculing the office of the presidency by his utterances.

He abused German chancellor, UK prime minister, Canadian president, France president, Africa countries in general, trade deal fights with US allies, he dosen’t believe in the science of climate change, he dosen’t like dissenting opinion hence he tagged any news against him as fake news by trying to suppress media freedom, I’m even tired of mentioning all this.

pchukwudi:
Have you been following those four people he talked about? Familiar with their hateful rhetorics and endless flow of anti American nonsense?

What are the anti American nonsense they said?

Can you list two ?

Deepthoughts:
All those people you mentioned, were they anti America in their utterances n actions?, you'd better not near the US oooh.

For your info, I currently reside in the USA. The United state is a country where everyone have the right to voice out their opinion. What the congresswomen are saying is not anti-American, she is covered by the first amendment and she has the right to voice out her opinion, that is the same things the democrats have been echoing about giving immigrant a chance.

Trump is doing well with the economy and even his enemies knows about that but his utterances most times are against the norm and it’s more of a bully.

You think America is a country without the rule of law, you think USA will deport a legal immigrant just for his opinion on national issue, there is freedom of speech here and so far you are living legally and a law abiding citizen, No one can expel you that easy.

Quorax:


Thank you... @The emboldened, it is true and I am not saying the Yorubas should start acting like igbos. we are all unique in our own ways and if there is anything I respect the Yorubas for, it is their approach to certain things in life, the calmness in face of tumburlence.

However, you will agree with me that such attitude can be detrimental in cases where radicality is needed, otherwise, you will likely be consumed. For instance a friend and an igbo brother helped a yoruba man who was good to him to secure loan in his name in order for the yoruba man to get contract.

It is good to be good, however, this same calmness, slowness to action has ruined this man's relationship because the person he used the money to work for was playing him like table tennis for almost a year until my igbo brother narrated everything to me... It was I who came with a different spirit and opened their eyes about the fraud. The Yoruba man had no idea he was being played, the relationship my igbo brother has with the owner of the money is destroyed because of this and the owner of the money has always been of great help to him. My igbo brother lost huge chances due to delay of this money.

So, you can see how acting slow some times can destroy a lot of things.

The igbos are quick to react, call them emotional... and you may be right too and that attitude also has its disadvantage. However, what the Yorubas always interpret as hate is, to me, "tough love". If it was hate, why have we not had series of historical ethnic clash between the two? It has always been a war of words and that is it.

The only place Igbos and Yorubas have difference is when it comes to issue of politics and that difference became so wide since Buhari/Tinubu came into the national stage of our politics due to their use of ethnic divides. Tinubu is still playing that tribal politics till today, even yesterday he said is Evans a herdsmen but what he didnt realize is that Evans never kidnapped Yoruba or Hausa. It was strictly Igbo men, his own people which makes the dynamics of his operations intriguing.

Another thing is that Igbos feel if not for Yorubas, they would have long broken off Nigeria.

However, at this stage, we must all admit that the problem is not the South and this RUGA ish has further exposes the people we share a country with up North.

I had no idea that a lot of them posing as Yorubas were actually Northerners. It was this RUGA that exposed them all going by their comment. Lets admit BUHARI is a BAD MARKET...

Nice reply, you gave a good narrative and both tribe can learn from eachother. I’ve always seen the Igbos as brothers and I have lot of Igbo friends that we grew up together back then in Ibadan. I don’t even know what is called division among us Caz they are all around my area.

Truly, we only have a dissenting opinion when it comes to politics but in reality we still tolerate one another but both of us are people with ego, and we don’t want correction even when we know we are going wrong, that ego keeps coming up.

If the Igbos and Yorubas were to be a country, we would have moved mountains coz all the product that this nation produced are majorly from the two tribes.

People making Nigeria proud in diaspora if quantified in terms of percentage are majorly Yorubas and Igbos, we may have a lot of differences but we sometimes are in competition with eachother which to me is healthy, but that completion would have favored us if Nigeria is practicing regional government or if we are in a separate country.

We just have to accept the fact that the fulanis are the same either Atiku or Buhari, they are just taking the southerners for a ride. I know people are starting to wake up to this reality and with time you will see results even from the Yoruba folks.

Maybe just one day which may be soon, we will fix this rubbish system of governance or we all go our separate ways for good.

jcross19:
I don't care as far is dealing with this terrorists am happy! the idiot woman that was talking rubbish because of religion should be quiet and follow the rules of the country because no Islamic nations will ever vote woman for a public office talkless of Parliament.

She is an American, voted into parliament by the American people. America do not share your hate sentiment for the religion of Islam, they knew she was a Muslim before voting her in a democratic settings.

She is American and Trump cannot do anything to her than to bully her online and I don’t care about other Islamic Nations whether they voted for a woman or not, don’t deviate from the issue of discourse which is USA.

jcross19:
go back and read the post again!! unless you lack ability to comprehend simple explanation ! you think trump is like your buffoon president that allow foreigner to be marauding his people ? trump is a true president and his country protection is first.

Lol, who voted for the congress women? Don’t you think they are Americans too? You think the USA people are as daft as you think, they voted the Muslim African-American congress women through the ballot.

Trump is even worse that your president, he hates everyone except his race, he think the blacks are sub-human and he is a bully that hide under the banner of MAGA.

I sometimes feel sorry for guys that supports trump blindly, don’t you know he sees you in the image of those African American he’s trying to bully?

Donald trump just keep ridiculing the office of the president, the USA is a nation that other nation look up to based on her core values and democracy.

The reason USA is a great country is not only because of its military might but the trust other nation put in her as an upright nation with people of integrity at the helm of affairs.

Trump is everything un-American and he has fought almost all the allies of the United States by insults and desecrating the office of the president.

Donald trump wife Melania is from Slovenia, she became a permanent resident in 2001, and obtained USA citizenship in 2006. Why can’t Trump tell her to go back to her country also?

Donald’s grandfather was an immigrant from Germany, so why can’t he just accept other people of color as American?

To all of you on Nairaland trying to support blindly, just know he sees all of you as people from shiit.hole countries, and no amount of praise singing will change his perception of our skin.

Quorax:


You are starting to think? really? bros, you just woke up from your slumber ni? Go back to your sleep. At this stage, you guys need to admit that Igbos always speak the truth... their ONLY problem is that they do not know how to say the truth without hurting you, which is why most you revolt against them...

It well bro...

To be honest bro, it’s not a matter of truth or not, Yoruba and Ibos have always been Tom and Jerry even since the days of the Awolowos and Azikwes. I think we have different ideologies and approach to situation. I will not say one culture is superior to another but we just have to respect each others decision devoid of insult.

Back to the topic, the fulanis either Buhari or Atiku have the same ideological mindset, and they believe in one true North. Normally the sultan or the Emir of Kano should have addressed all this issue of the herdsmen but they all keep mute like nothing is happening.

Yorubas are some sort of people who tend not to care much or let me say we are not quick to take action. But times are changing, people are getting more conscious of Nigeria and people sleeping are getting awoke bit by bit. It takes time but I’m sure people are getting awoke.

Proudly Naija!