Nothing has changed except that millions have died and many more will die before the incompatible contraption disintegrates. Just 4years after independence, calls for disintegration had started renting the air. It's obvious Nigeria was never meant to be.
freemanq: Nigeria army should be deployed there immediately now
The last time Nigerian army operated in Benue state, it was against the Tivs that were armed and fending off the fulanis. The Nigerian army used aircrafts to bomb them with many residential houses destroyed. It happened in Konshisha LGA. Tivs and other Christian ethnic groups of the middlebelt have been marked for extermination. No one will speak for them. Why is Yakubu Gowon not talking? Why have all the prominent Tiv men silent? Why are the vocal Yoruba elder statesmen not talking? Expect more killings in Benue.
This is how you will know that I know what I'm talking about. This thread will not get as much attention from Nigeria as much as the Gazans get yet Benue is here in Nigeria and they are the food basket of the contraption yet no one cares. It sucks to be from Nigeria.
Gradually, it will dawn of you all that you have no country. After killing hundreds and thousands of people, they will tell you to move on. After rigging election, they will tell you to go to court. The terrotist police and army will tell you to your face that they will kill you and nothing will happen and truly, nothing will happen after you've been killed. As long as you join them to hate one specific people, your own day to be hated and killed is coming. It only took one particulater chant of "Ronu" to ethnicise the protest before unleashing their death squad of armless and non-violent Lekki protesters. MORAL OF THE LESSON Don't die for the useless contraption. She was designed to fail and she will fail only that millions will be wasted before she fails. The long we prolong her death, the more people die unnecessarily. Death to the terrorist contraption.
creativehubb: He is the head, founder, leader and mobilizer of Ipob, ESN. That's all the evidence you need. Thousands of videos online proves this. You fools can keep worshipping the idiot, but he will die in jail.
Afriifa: You don't want enlightment, you only wanted a base to sell your argument. I will allow you to carry on your delusion till the day of reckoning. Don't say I didn't tell you. I don't need to continue this argument. I laugh at you heavily when you talk Isaac Boro and Limit his struggle to Ijaw Niger Delta and worst Bayelsa state when in fact, Isaac Boro's Niger Delta actually captured Rivers States and the Mid-Western States. You think Niger Delta is Ijaw thing? That's where you all failed. Niger Delta like I told you has conceptual, political and geographical meaning but you ended up focusing on the geography. I even went as far as educating you that it is a collection of minority tribes with close ancestral bond but you also ignored it. From your point of arguments I see that you are not just Igboic but a pro biafran agitator. Let me ask you which of the south-south states or areas that you think will join you? Edo? Delta? Rivers? Bayelsa? Akwa-Ibom? Cross River? Ijaws you see as minorities and insequential will be the most resounding killer of your dreams. The Niger Deltans are never conquered! When Nigeria was juicing the bromace as about Wazobia! What changed now? You must all enjoy the food you were serving the Minorities in Niger Delta. During the civil war we learnt a lot from you Igbos.. In Abonema, is a every year thing. We retell the story our people.suffered in the hands of Biafra soldiers. You'll all live to enjoy the show.
Lol. Afriifa, you'll never change. I guess we should leave it at that then. Like my people will say, 'agbasia oso, agua mile'. May God keep us alive to see how all these will end. Talking about Isaac Adaka Boro, you're clear ignorant of his exploits. His only theatre of fighting was in the Eastern region. How then did he capture the Mid-Western region? All his fighting was in the creeks that was unfamiliar to those who used him. After he had cleared the way for them, they wasted him and disbanded his army even though the war was still on-going. The atrocities he committed against his own people in the pursuit of helping those controlling the resources today will be revealed in due time. The rate of degeneration is really appalling; from fighting for resource control to accepting the job of pipeline guards will be told to future generations. Ken Saro-Wiwa who followed in his footsteps later saw his folly and requested help from the same person he had been disparaging but it was already too late.
I for one don't see anyone as inconsequential in any scheme of things and will always welcome anyone I have a shared history and possible aspiration. If that person refuses to see the bigger picture, I'll let him be and relate with him the way that he deserves. Enjoy your motorboy status while it lasts. Your children will ask you the wisdom surrounding your current folly. Continue celebrating your servitude at Abonnema. As the economy shrinks further, those controlling the resources will become more greedy and it is your people that will suffer the consequences more. Whatever our complain is, our situation is still far better than what you have. Our tentacles for wealth creation and accumulation has been divested to far corners of the world unlike you lots. Let me stop here. I wish you and your people the best because I harbour no ill feeling for them. You on the otherhand can't say the same because the feelings aren't the same.
Afriifa: I see how you have clearly communicated your argument or made your point astutely. Thus, I am bound to offer my reply after a review. First, the statement Pa Clark made is not distortion of facts in a society like Nigeria. If you're opposed to the submission he made, there are clearer, convincing, and more diplomatic approach to make your views known if indeed you clearly reflect the civilisation you are preaching now. I skimmed through the comments that this post generated, and I can confidently argue that neither you, nor any of your brethrens in the South-East possess nor reflect the civilisation you are trying to sell to me now. Rather than even making their displeasure known in a civil way, you and your kins resulted to use derogatory and vile languages against the Elder. I also remember when the Youth wing of your Apex Socio-Cultural Group once insulted this same Clark for commenting on national issues. The problem "you all think is that you're the smartest and the brainest because other nationalities are quiet and restrictive on social-developmental issues". But that's a discussion for another day. Now back to Clark's point.. He didn't wasn't just making empty comments, or passing offending remarks. Clark was premising his viewpoints on the facts that you lots (Imo, Abia etc) were prostesting against the senate's tradition of confirming indigenes of major oil producing states as MDs/Chairman of the Commission. Now, that's really offending and provocative, like how dare you try to kick against the confirmation of such natives as MDs/Chairpersons of the agency? That's why he brought the perfect analogue : Why should a far minority shareholder protest against the confirmation of a major shareholder as MD or Chairman? isn't that offensive? In all facets of equality and equity, you lots are not in a position to protest that. Is greediness. and Pa Clark didn't just say you lots should be removed, he even went as far as suggesting that a similar development agency be created for you minorities to advance your socio-economic interests. So how is that offensive or uncivilised for your cronies to rain insult on him? Back to the last question, the conceptual Niger Delta of oil producing states, the political Niger Delta, is the Niger Delta of Six South-South States. n the Geographical Niger Delta is the Niger Delta of the Six South-South States but arguably with parts of Ondo states like Ose-Odo LGA, Odigbo LGA and co. So in sum, the political Niger Delta is strongly similar with the Geographical Niger Delta. N Let me tell you one thing that you non-Niger Deltans don't know, the Niger Delta is beyond geographical boundaries, and political boundaries. The Niger Delta is a collection of Minority tribes with similar and strong ancestral heritage. From far away Ondo state to Akwa-Ibom they are all related.. For instance, from the Benins, Ikweres, Ijaws, Urhobos, Annang, Efik, ETC. We may have our internal disputes and bring them to public but oga, the Unity we share even as individuals of different tribes, is not measurable to what even the majority tribes like Igbo or Yoruba shares. If I tell you that Bayelsa state has the appointments of Akwa-Ibom indigens you will be shocked. Edo state has the appointment of Delta indigens despite the tribal difference, But Abia man refuse Anambra man despite being the same tribe.. I hope I have taken good time to address your concerns. n let me tell you, the Niger Deltans are political and social conscious of everyone around us. Don't think you can sugarcoat us to believe you.
You started well but later diverted to start lumping me with others. I'll excuse and focus on our discussion. An English term has a specific meaning moreso when it is contextualized. As much as you would like to disassociate Igbo with the Niger Delta, you can't because we are the head of the lower Niger ethnic groups. Strictly speaking, only Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state are situated exactly in the delta formed by the River Niger. So, geographically speaking, only the Ijaws, Epie-Atissa, Ekpeye and Ogbia people are found there. Isaac Adaka Boro was from that Delta region and could use it and indeed his Niger Delta was limited to the Ijaws of present day Bayelsa. It's funny how some of you will want to use the word Niger Delta to encompass other distant areas that are not even close to the delta formed by the River Niger. The reason is simply because you want to by all means distant yourselves from Igbos. You can do so but you must use the proper term not one that we all shared before. Below is the map considered to be core Niger Delta states(even though most parts of Delta and Rivers doesn't fall into the Delta properly). Edo has no business with Niger Delta geographically and the same goes for Akwa Ibom and Cross river state. It's funny how you went to far away Ondo state even citing Odigbo(Ore area which I know very well) as Niger Delta yet you don't consider Oguta(Imo) where traders paddle their canoes to Abonnema estuary as Niger Delta. Your disdain for ndigbo is obvious but it won't change a thing.
mrvitalis: There is no way you can supply electricity now in Nigeria profitably that's is why we don't have Comericial electricity constant
How is this difficult for you guys to even understand I don't get
There is a reason estates have 24 hours electricity but mainland dont have
Everything is about profit!!!
Have you not heard discos rejecting power?
Discos amd power generation companies are surviving because of subsidies from federal government if not they can never be profitable
Like bros how's this difficult to understand[/b]
Nigeria is not rich enough to provide free electricity to Nigerians Nigerians have to pay If they want it and we don't have enough Nigerians capable of paying
If you don't get this now I'm done
We are saying similar things but not the same. Your position is that people must work hard to improve their financial status before expecting a steady power supply while my position is that the government whether state or central must ensure a steady power supply is available so those who can afford it will be able to utilized it to create more wealth for themselves. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR FREE ELECTRICITY. The problem with your position is that it will never happen. Wealth creation and financial improvement in this generation is tied to a steady supply of power. Anything less will put a people on the disadvantaged side of this highly competitive world. Do you know how much farm produce perish weekly due to improper storage as a result of epileptic electricity supply? Do you know the amount of loss suffered all around because of it? If you don't know, it is one of the major reason behind the closure of many businesses. Rent is cheaper here in Nigeria than other countries but absence of steady power is still killing businesses. You'll never understand until you visit other countries where a steady power supply is available.
Gajagojo: Name one Hamlet in Imo state or Anambra state that is in the Niger Delta you will not succeed in changing the subject
Will not work
We're back to where we started. I'll leave you now knowing that you've learnt a lot from me already. Next time, don't jump in to discuss what you know nothing about.
Gajagojo: The Ogu creek is an extension of The River Niger from its Nun River Branch
That is exactly what we are talking about when we talk about a River delta it means that there are creeks, and fresh water swamps extending from the River So stop all this silly ranting
A Delta is not a river but a network of Wetlands , creeks Swamps, Marshlands and Mangrove swamps extending for miles around the river
Show us where this is present in Anambra and Imo state as you claimed
Once again can you name one village or Hamlet in Anambra or Imo state that are part of the Niger delta geographically as you claimed
No one forced you to make that silly claim and all these futile efforts to change the narrative WILL NOT WORK
Simple question name one village in Anambra or Imo state that is geographically in the Niger Delta
😂 😂 😂 😂 Even with an image of the area, you're still talking crap. Nun River has no connection whatsoever with far away Ogu Creek. Are you blind? Rivers state has no business with the tributaries of River Niger. All the rivers inside Rivers state has no connection with the River Niger. You should stop dragging things you know nothing about. I've listed for you areas in Imo state that are part of the geopolitical Niger Delta and backed it up with pictures. I won't tell you those in Anambra.
mrvitalis: Yes but electricity inventions and Comericial electricity are two different things they are not the same thing
Nigerians sha
We don't lack electricity in Nigeria what we lack is Comericial electricity
No one needs to invent what has already been invented. Steady supply of Electricity is what we are talking about in this generation. It must come first before any country can dream of achieving industrialization in this era because every machinery runs on electricity. When it is cheaper and steady, it encourages more productivity, storage and transportation which leads to more exportation and greater profits. It equally makes the products to be cheaper. I know you understand this but don't want to accept your earlier position was wrong.
Once the economy grows and the population benefit from this growth to rise up in their individual wealth status, they can be taxed more and electricity rates increased. You can't do these two to a poor population. It will lead you no where. Every government owe the citizens a steady supply of electricity just like they owe them good roads and pipeborne water supply. This is just common sense.
Electricity is the greatest invention of all time. Without it, any human advancement and civilization can never get to the present modernity that have been achieved. Therefore, electricity first before industrialization.
Gajagojo: All of this to change the subject instead of admitting that you were wrong in claiming that geographically Anambra and Imo are part of the Niger Delta
We are not discussing any concept of the Niger Delta as an oil producing territory Why are you so dishonest and unable to simply admit you were wrong
All we have been discussing was a YOUR OWN CLAIM about the GEOGRAPHY OF THE NIGER DELTA and that Anambra and Imo are Geographically part of the Niger Delta . They are not, End of Discussion
You are just desperately trying to sound as if you know what you are talking about when you have no clue whatsoever
RIVERS STATE IS GEOGRAPHICALLY IN THE NIGER DELTA Nun River , a branch of the River Niger splits into several creeks and freshwater swamps which flow through hundreds of settlements in Rivers state e.g Ogu Bolo to name one
Lol. Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. See you calling Nun River in far away Central Bayelsa having creeks connected to Ogu/Bolo area just below Ogoni territory in the eastern part of Rivers state. You're a stranger to the area and know nothing about it. You can't from the far north know about my area more than me. I knew you weren't interested in knowing the truth but rather bent on ensuring Igbo isn't associated with the Niger Delta. Unfortunately for you, Ndigbo are part and parcel of the Niger Delta when we speak of it as a geopolitical zone and an oil producing area.
Below is the map of Rivers State and parts of Bayelsa. Can you show me where the Nun River deep inside Bayelsa forms creeks in far away Ogu/Bolo lga? 😂 😂 😂 😂
Afriifa: You are a joke.. Anyone indeed.. Was it not recently Abians were complaining that they don't want an Anambra man as Mayor of Abia? There is a conceptual Niger Delta, a geographical Niger delta, and a political Niger Delta. You can argue your lines based on the context you are using it.
Like I said, think properly again about the implication of insisting that someone adjudged producing lesser amount shouldn't be allowed to head an association. This is because it might turn around to harm you in the future. The mistake Abians did in that case is as a result of their shallow mindset that I talk about while speaking againt Edwin Clark. A good number of our people still fail to see the bigger picture. All Igbos celebrated our sister and daughter from Abia state who got a big post in far away Canada just last week yet back at home, SOME ABIANS rejected a fellow Igbo man from another state being an official in their city. As you can see, it is a general problem for our collective people and it doesn't speak well of us which needs to be addressed by our visionary leaders. I await to see if Gov. Otti will follow their emotional and misguided outburst or he will appeal to them to give his appointee a chance to prove himself. Finally, I'll like to know your definition of the three. 1. Conceptual Niger Delta 2. Geographical Niger Delta 3. Political Niger Delta
aQUINandmore: I have seen different shades of foolishness but yours is unique. You foolishness makes you take pride in judging a city by comments on an edited video, these comments you are relying on as your receipt were also made by the same ignorant people that have not been to Abuja.
I have been to over 10 African countries and I have paid house rent in almost all of them. I have been to over twenty states in Nigeria and I have lived and paid house rent in Benin city, ughelli in delta, keffi in nasarawa state, kubwa in Abuja, anambra, Jos etc so when I tell you anything concerning these places just shut your stupid juvenile mouth and listen.
Mumu say Abuja is a green city Abuja in its original concept was meant to be 40 percent green but it has not even meant 20 percent now.
Enugu, calabar, uyo have more greenries than the same Abuja you are praising because you watched it in an edited video, even the joburg you ignorantly and foolishly say Abuja was not designed to be like has more greenries than the same Abuja.
How is Abuja that lacks, portable water, that lacks good road, no security, no good infrastructure-- how many skyscrapers are in Abuja that you are listing it among the elite African cities?
About the city gate, I only talked about the city gate because that is what I could see from the useless video you posted, as you foolishly claim, is it the minimalist design that also makes the city gate environment looks like were kids like you play five aside football?
When you are of age and your parents have started allowing you move freely as it should be, try visit Abuja and see for yourself.
Small small children no dey let person hear word just because you fit get data watch one edited video for YouTube.
Shiooor, for the same Abuja that is as dark as hell at night, a capital city without functioning street lights. Travel and see, you will realize small countries like Togo, Benin, Ghana etc has left Nigeria behind by ages.
ABUJA IS ALWAYS RANKED AS BEING AMONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND BEST PLANNED CITIES IN AFRICA.
Popular Kenyan vlogger, African Tigress from Nairobi, was BLOWN AWAY by the organisation, cleanliness, and greenery of ABUJA. Many comments on the site from foreigners including Kenyans expressed shock that Nigeria had such a beautiful and well planned city as ABUJA.
Kenyans and the rest of the international community showed so much love to Nigeria in their comments in these videos.
They were saying that Nigerians should not build skyscrapers in Abuja, as it would spoil the city.
Anyone who googles it will confirm that I'm very correct. No single Nigerian city is worthy of hosting an international outdoor event that will span over a month. The infrastructure, outlook and organisation is just too poor. Whatever you see them saying there is just a consolation praise nothing more. With the pedigree Nigeria has, it is a shame what cities she has built so far. Alright, can you list your first 10 most beautiful cities in Africa after checking them up on youtube? I await you answer then I can list mine.
Afriifa: You are the foool.. Counter his points if you were smart.. Idiota.. He stated the plain truth. How can a minority shareholder dream of being an MD of a company with many majority shareholders if not for greed? bastard.
I know you're angry but you must try and calm down. Look at the bigger picture and see the mistake Edwin Clark is making. Any member of any association is qualified to head it as long as he is competent whether it be in the NDDC, SS exclusive governors association or whatever. Inclusivity should be the right direction and not some parochial sentiment. Honestly, I'm disappointed in Edwin Clark for making this comment. I thought we've learnt from our past mistakes but clearly, we are still neck deep in that mess. South South as a geopolitical region isn't Niger Delta as a geographical region. Some states in the SS don't have wetlands and aren't even close to the delta of the River Niger. How then do you call them Niger Delta states? Remember, no emotion just plain geography and common sense.
Gajagojo: These are your words which are patently false
The River Niger has nothing to do with Egbema or Oguta that is why I called you out. The onus is on you to evidence your claims Let us first be clear The definition of delta HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL
The reality is you cannot name one village or hamlet in Anambra or Imo where the RIVER NIGER FORMS A DELTA
The Niger Delta by geography is Delta,Rivers and Bayelsa. FULL STOP
Well, going strictly by the Delta formed by the River Niger, not even Rivers state qualifies leaving only Delta and Bayelsa states as the Niger Delta states. You must understand that Niger Delta as a word could either be geographical which limits it to two states or geopolitical which is more inclusive by adding adjoining areas that are nearby and interconnected by rivers. This is where and how Rivers, Imo and Anambra states can be considered Niger Delta states. Now, the word Niger Delta is a geopolitical term because it doesn't confine its boundaries to the exact communities in the Delta Wetlands. If it was so, only the whole of Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state will be included in it. The whole of Rivers state won't be in it because no tributary of the River Niger passed through it. All the wetlands of Rivers state is as a result of the estuaries formed at the coast which links to rivers flowing upstream into Imo, Abia and Anambra states.
The point is Niger Delta as a geographical term includes only the whole of Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state. When you consider it as a geopolitical term, it becomes inclusive of adjoining areas which includes nearby wetlands and rivers including communities near those rivers especially River Niger itself. This is how Rivers, Anambra and Imo states make the cut. No tributary of the River Niger flowed into Rivers state but it has wetlands. In conclusion, the concept of the Niger Delta being an oil producing territory will ALWAYS be inclusive of adjoining areas that are oil producing even if they are not wetlands. Most of Rivers state oil producing communities are not in its wetlands. Most of them are upland having boundaries with Anambra, Imo and Abia states.
Out of the 20 most beautiful cities in Africa, no single city from Nigeria could be found. Abuja couldn't make neither did Lagos qualify yet Nigeria is touted the biggest economy in Africa. Shame! shame!! shame!!!
Google it if you're in doubt. Check out Dakar, Senegal. Check out Abidjan. Look at Luanda, then Kigali. I've not even mentioned north African cities or those in Southern Africa. Tufiakwa for the shithole
Oil is irrelevant to t he conversation about The geography of the Niger Delta
Totally irrelevant The Term Niger Delta simply means WETLANDS Formed towards the end of the course AND INTO WHICH THE RIVER NIGER EMPTIES on the way to the Atlantic Nothing absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL That definition does not apply to Egbema which HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RIVER NIGER
Yours has a river which connects to Abonema you claim How is that relevant to River Niger or the question of Niger Delta?
Ok. By your definition, how many communities are found specifically in those WETLANDS? How many states have those wetlands specifically formed by the River Niger as it empties into the Atlantic ocean?
Please tell me I am particularly interested in those towns or villages in Imo or Anambra state that are in the Niger Delta
Kindly name one please
Just one
Because you requested using please, I'll oblige you. Egbema community is oil producing and was splitted into two parts with one in Imo and the other in Rivers state. In Imo, the Egbema community falls into the Ohaji/Egbema LGA while in Rivers state, the other part of Egbema community falls into Ogba/Ndoni/Egbema LGA. All these communities are found in the Niger Delta region. Still in Imo state, Oguta LGA is oil producing and it has a river which connects it to the Abonnema estuary close to the atlantic ocean. In the days far back, traders from Oguta use to transport goods and humans down to Abonnema using the river. Imo state is a bonafide member of the Niger Delta. I'll leave you to find out about Anambra being a member of the Niger Delta too.
Malema is wrong on this one. He clearly can't see what those who support Israel have seen. I hope it won't be late by the time he begins to see what we've seen.
Can you name one village or town in Anambra or Imo state that are in the Niger Delta. Just One please
I don't want to spoon feed you. Anambra is side by side with Delta state on the River Niger down to the Delta area where she has a boundary with Rivers state. Those communities all around there have oil and gas. Search for them yourself and you'll never forget about it. If I tell you, you will forget easily.