Throwback: I thought you enjoy when historical discussions are brought up by the likes of the late Nnamdi Kanu and Radio Biafra? But you don't call it hate then?
Why are you always angry and bitter when the past is also brought up by others?
Why are you so scared of the "Yoruba Ronu" speech that highlighted your greed for power and domination, such that it has deprived you of sleep over the past few days?
Ogundipe already had a more senior role in the Supreme HQ behind Ironsi, so it was OK for Fajuyi to take the role of Western Military Governor.
So why were the other more senior officers (Both Igbo and non-Igbos) skipped in the appointment for Eastern military governor?
You can do the permutation and combination to determine Ojukwu's choice ahead of the other Igbo seniors from the Eastern region not just the non-Igbos.
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=89722361]Lol. What's does this have to do with the subject of discussion? I'm very ready to oblige you in any way of your choice. I'm fully kitted.
Christistruth00: W.U Bassey was Commissioned 2 months before Ironsi. and Ogundipe not Ademulegun was Commissioned on the same day as Ironsi.Bassey had joined the Army a good 7 years before Ironsi. I love all Nigerians but Tribalism is evil and has cost us a Civil War already.
Babafemi Ogundipe was not commissioned in the same year with the trio of Bassey, Ironsi and Ademulegun. You're correct about Bassey being 2 months ahead of Ironsi and Ademulegun In 1949.
Christistruth00: W.U Bassey's was too senior to Ademulegun in the Army to be considered a serious threat besides was it not the same intrigues that ended Ademuleguns life later on? What happened was that W.U Bassey's promotional trainings were delayed until after Ironsi had emerged as head of the Army and Ojukwu had emerged as Governor of the Eastern Region he was senior to both of them . Bassey's problem was that he was considered to be an Eyo-Ita boy because he was from Calabar like him .Please do your own research and find out the truth for yourself. Truth makes you wiser.
Wellington Bassey was a fine and loyal Officer who was well loved by Rank and File, the Northern Soldiers loved him so much they made sure he was untouched during all the killings in the North.
From Ziks "Origins of the Nigerian Civil War " pages 1&2
Lies, lies, lies. Bassey, Ironsi and Ademulegun were commissioned the same year 1949 though he joined the army in 1936. Ziks excerpt you posted dwelt solely on the perceived misappointment of Ojukwu by Ironsi as the Military Governor of the Eastern region instead of the other his seniors from the region. It has nothing to do with why Ironsi emerged ahead of Bassey as the GOC of the Nigerian Army. We're very vigilant today.
I've researched to know enough of what happened. I'll leave it at that until any son of the fallen demon comes with another false allegation then I'll lay it bare here. Gone are the days of lies against Igbos. We're are ever vigilant today and forever. It is fire for fire now.
senatordave1: Sorry,I suppose tag you.you are an intellectual.but I don't think a book written by njoku should be the only reasonable explanation.mind you,he also went to a course abroad so I don't see why his juniors should overtake him.sounds funny
Wow... "I don't think a book written by Njoku should be the only reasonable explanation". If it was written by one Adewale, would you have accepted it? We're matching you people now with every antics you present. We'll never overlook anything. It was the British that handed the top position to Ironsi. Go and search the british archive for answers you tribalistic urchin.
MetaPhysical: The purpose of their struggle for littoral membership is to catch up to Yoruba. We have 50% of our states in the litttoral list - Lagos, Ogun Ondo.
When they can't catch up then they throw venom at our ports and wish they would sink.
Bad belle people.
Lol. Ordinarily, why would any Igbo wish bad to the ports in Yorubaland? Are we in any competition? No. Why do you people reason like this? Anyway, with the determination you guys have shown over the years to put Igbos down at all cost, we would do same to you when we get back to track. Always have it at the back of your mind. We will come for you to give you a taste of what you've been dishing us for decades. No hard feelings about it... just pay back time.
afube: You have manifestly refused to see the existential threat the Fulani savages pose to ndigbo..........the Fulanis have savaged and ravaged the middle belt, the same ipob miscreants are wedging the Fulanis in the ebonyi / Benue axis !!!.......you have absolutely nothing encouraging to say to them except to call them childish. you leave marauding Fulani savages but turn on your own people,ipob are the only Igbo ppl actually on ground doing anything to stop these evil people. Your ilk will be ultimately weeded out .........leave those ready and willing to work to go about their business.
People like him always end up as sellouts so they deserve to be skinned alive before they do much damage.
OfoIgbo: If I include Igbo territories in the SS, then I can make such a flight. Gowon cannot determine what is the boundary between Igbos
Simple as ABC. Now you got the appropriate answer to the misinformation our enemies have been pushing all these while. The simple answer is that 'Gowon can never determine the boundary of Igboland. Meanwhile, our enemies have been clearly identified and we shall put sand in their own garri at the right time. We will never forget.
Aladegba: Igbo presidency, Igbo apologies after civil war, Igbo conspiracy, etc. One fact remains...the entire igboland is landlocked. What is the difference between Lesotho and south eastern Nigerian. If Igbo wanna be free, they must negotiate their freedom with the Niger Deltans which will end up at the doorstep of the yorubas and denied!!! What is the essence of freedom if it can never be achieved?
Lol. Chai one igbegiri gobbler overestimating their importance.
I'm tired of everything, life in the world now is illustrated by the below picture :
Go for the neck of the snake. Grab it and throw it into the water then balance well on the tree and await the opportunity for further escape. There's always a way... This is one of my most strongest cliche in life. Never give up.
kehinde1588: Since igbos know history more than any tribe in Nigeria and even know the origin of Ibrahim than we kwarans, I want them to explain when Fulani start having this kind of tribal marks on Ibrahim face.
Pls any Igbo should explain
If not that something is wrong with you, why are you calling on Igbos? Is FFK- the writer of that article an Igbo man?
Amaechi2023: sometimes I wonder how you igbos reason. U reasonings are too shallow that you think your deceiving the masses and at the end the joke replays back to your face.
Keep ethnicising everything in a Yoruba man forum and shout igbophobia.
We both know, your factory default would restore d day the North decides to chase you out to your fantasy Biafra.
Call me afonja, I'm uses to it. But the joke is on you.
Every tribe has openly spoken against including your South South brother..
Are you suffering from dementia? Don't you see the person he quoted calling Igbos when the article nor it's writer is connected to Igbos? The hate in your heart against Igbos will kill you one day. Just have it at the back of your mind that it is fire for fire at present. We won't overlook any mad man writing a false narrative against us nor any stray dog barking in its usual discordant tune.
How you people reason and generate theories to fan n feed your egos baffles me. Nsukka and Ebonyi are Tiv people coz they share boundaries with Benue same way you people tell us about Obiano people in Anambra is not true Anambra coz they share boundaries with Kogi people. Anyway, I lived in Nsukka for over 25 yrs before migrating to Lagos and I categorically tell you that,Nsukka way of life ranging from Marriage rites,burial,beliefs are same with almost every other Igbo town in Igbo Land. Some of them have surname like Ali,Omeh,Itodo,Idoko but don't forget that back in the days ,Nsukka people traveled more to Benue,Kogi and other Northern states of the country for business, cash crops,and traditional medicine and charm that abounds in Kogi and Benue and common sense should tell you @ the course of this socioeconomic interaction, such name could be adopted.
All Yoruba demons think daily is how to sow confusion in our ranks. We must be vigilant to expose them. We should also go further to do worse to them too.
toolovely: That's because you are not proud of where you come from. I'm from Afikpo and I speak my dialect anywhere. Do you know that there's a part of Anambra that speak a different dialect from the general Anambra that we know?
When people understand that there are variations in Igbo language, we will keep going over this everyday.
There are no much difference between Abakaliki/Ezza/Izzi dialect from the native Enugu. Most Enugu people adopted Anambra as their dialect but when they speak their native dialect, it sounds more like Abakaliki Ezza Izzi dialect...
For those saying Ebonyi people, there's nothing like Ebonyi people. You don't define a people by a POLITICAL GEOGRAPHICAL area... You define a people by their culture, traditions, etc... In Ebonyi state, there are different people... You have the Afikpos, Ezzas, Izzis, and Ohaozara/Onicha all with different cultures, dialects, traditions. So you can't call them a people. They were brought together by politics. The Ebonyi north and central was in the old Anambra and Enugu state respectively while Ebonyi South was in old Imo and Old Abia state.
Thanks bro. You know your history and social science very well. The enemies of Ndigbo here on nairaland are not relenting on putting division among us. We must do the same to them in every way imaginable.
There are different dialects in Igboland just like in every other places. I'm from owerri and my dialect would be a comic relief in the ears of an Ntezi man. Does that mean owerri language is not Igbo? There's also the central Igbo language used for academic purpose.
Can you compare the unique peculiarities of the Ebonyi spoken Igbo to that of Badagry people in Lagos State?
Ask Yorubas and they will tell you that Badagry language is totally different from Yoruba language but they are still Yorubas!
Ebonyi language in all its uniqueness is more Igbo than Badagry language would ever be Yoruba.
Mind you that Badagry language is not Yoruba and doesn't resemble Yoruba in any way.
ChimaAdeoye: To begin with, I neither trust nor give too much significance to the dubious data from Nigerian Bureau statistics. No single academician in the world takes data coming out of Nigeria seriously. Everyone in the world knows Nigeria is painfully notorious for data falsification and forgery for political expediency. So, trust Nigerian data at your peril.
Some people have set their evil eyes on Ebonyi politically and have an evil agenda for the state. The recent Ebonyi mall thread clearly shows how bitter and are determined to employ propaganda against Ebonyi people that they are. Truth be told, many Nigerians especially those from the other big ethnic groups would rather see the southeast as an undeveloped and backward jungle. Many of them actually agonize that despite the marginalization of southeast Nigeria in every, the region has managed to continue to survive and develop! The Op forgot to post that Umahi built the largest and most modern market in Nigeria in the last 50 years. He has offered A LOT of initiatives to bring back Ebonyi youths from cities such as Lagos and help them establish businesses in the state.
The truth is that Ebonyi needs world-class infrastructure if it must achieve its destiny as a great state. Part of the art of attracting people to come to Abakaliki set up a business in Abakaliki, and live your fullest life in Abakaliki involves building modern facilities they could have found elsewhere.
When Abuja was being built, there was still massive poverty in Nigeria! Yet, nobody argued that building Abuja rather than giving more money to Nigerians was a bad strategy. Abuja was once a barren forest and modern infrastructure was built there with the hope that one day it will have everything which was present in Lagos, thus people will go there to live and start a business. That is exactly what Gov. Dave Umahi is doing.
Thanks a bunch my bro. The enemies of Ndigbo are ever thinking of ways to destroy us yet a lot of our people are not aware of it. Ever since the non-credible NBS released their dubious statistic, you can clearly see how sons of the fallen demons have been writing articles up and down to justify the lies. Their attack has been on Ebonyi and Enugu states. If there's any way they can organize an 'owambe' to celebrate it, they'd have done so. Igbos must come to the realization of who these people are and respond accordingly to them.
helinues: There are minority Igbo in SS but the land had been lost long time ago .
Kanu should advise the Igbo minorities to migrate back to any of the 5 east states.
Lol. Can you mention the 'minority Igbo' in SS? Our enemies can never be the determinant of our boundaries. Worst come to worst, everyone will feel the heat. Time will tell.
oyatz: You seems to have this funny Messianic complex.
1) If Nigeria is going to disintegrate, it won't be into Nigeria and Biafra but into SEVERAL smaller countries.
2) You don't need to wait for any tribe because they fail to join Biafra.
3) The numerous tribes of the Niger-Delta can form a single countries if they like or multi countries.
4) The 'fear' of incoming Fulani Jihadists that you are using to blackmail these minority tribes into joining Biafran doesn't hold water.
These Niger-Delta Tribes have
*Fertile lands with large water bodies *Access to the sea *Crude oil *Natural gas * Aluminum Smelting Company, Ikot Abasi *Aladja Steel * Delta Steel Complex and above all * Human Capital.
All they need to do is to sign an agreement with Vladimir Putin of Russia to take some barrels of crude oil free or manage the Steel /Aluminum complex for 3 years and supply their Army with the latest AK-47, APCs, Ground-to-Air Missiles, Helicopter Gunship and other deadly weapons.
Any Fulani Jihadists that set his feet on their territories will know that he is planning to commit suicide.
Can the Fulani Jihadists even withstand the Niger-Delta Militants?
What I wrote is not for people like you who have jaundiced mindset. You can think and say whatever but be sure that Igbos will come out victorious and those sons of the fallen demon will suffer for all their wickedness. That which they fear and yet refuse to confront headlong but rather seek to pull Igbos down will come upon them. No one will help them at those times.
Dikebuka: Igbanke land will be Biafraland... Igbanke land will.become Biafra land..what will happen is just like what happend in Adamawa. The might have to join the igbos are shift to one side of igbanke dt is linked to Edo Thats the beauty of igbo history.. There method of migration and expansion
Do you see the person you're discussing with? He knows nothing about Igbanke yet is yapping crap. Don't enlighten him anymore. Leave him to continue in his arrogant ignorance.
Dikebuka: Let me explain something Before Britain, the various ethnic group were coexisting..though not in a perfect form we were existing already..
Just like I told u earlier Nri was a spiritual place that most people went on pilgrimage.. Infact the Eze Nri was never seen
Igbos in Ahaba,Aboh, Iselle-ukwu was influence by the Oba of Benin and though they wia independent of his Dominion.
Igbos wia already in contact with Ijaw...if you recall King Jaja of Opobo...infact Jaja was never seen as a domineering igbo and he was one of the strong resistance the east hard toward British incursion.
Now igbos in Anambra, Imo, Abia down south hard wah they call chiefdoms not kingdom..it was the whiteman dt brought warrant chief.
The Aba women riot was Igbo, Efik and Ibibio women dt ended the taxation stuff to show dt they have been existing even before the whiteman came.
Now Aro-confederacy was the order of the day den..they was no true king for the places that had dt Confederacy.
Kalahari have been in contact with the igbos..from the slave trade era.
Now even before the establishment of the eastern region, they have been dia.
One thing again I will say is this the British came in through the ports but faced stiff resistance to conquer the region They retired most of the sophisticated merchants in the riverine area..
Fought the war with the confederate states won yet could not get for grip...
Had to force the Eze Nri out and tell.him to denounce his title..
Brought warrant chief and even militarization of the region
Do not waste your time on him. He's just acting true to his nature- serpent exactly like his people. All they think is about bringing Igbos down by any means. I'll love to see the looks on their faces when Biafra is established.
oyatz: Fulanis will now become foreigners and won't be allowed into their Countries.
Even Fulanis are victims of marginalization in other Countries.
Fulanis are being ridiculed, marginalized and killed in Central African Republic (CAR) which I strongly condemned because no Humanbeings deserved to be treated like that.
Fulanis are NOT more powerful than any other ethnic group. They are are only enjoying the protection of Federal Government of NIGIERIA.
Once there's no more Nigeria, Fulanis will run back to their domains.
Area4Area: Posts removed were those contravening the rules and as we all know, IPOB supporters resort to insults whenever they've been cornered so stop complaining and start educating yourself and others on how to conduct yourselves here and stop blaming the mods for doing their job.
Lol. Na today una don dey delete post wey una no fit handle? Non of my post contravened any rule. My arguments are always on point. Your biased mods can do whatever they like. It's their time. Don't engage me in an argument if you're 100% sure of your points. You'll be defeated soundly. Proudly IPOB.
Area4Area: Posts removed were those contravening the rules and as we all know, IPOB supporters resort to insults whenever they've been cornered so stop complaining and start educating yourself and others on how to conduct yourselves here and stop blaming the mods for doing their job.
Lol. Na today una don dey delete post wey una no fit handle? Non of my post contravened any rule. My arguments are always on point. Your biased mods can do whatever they like. It's their time.
Ojiofor: This is very irresponsible of you.Insulting people unprovoked is not a mark of courage but stupidity. You do not only hate IPOB you also hates anything Igbo and never post anything positive in any Igbo thread that I can remember.
It's simply because he's not Igbo. Is it not obvious enough? He's a stinking impostor whose other moniker is MelesZenawi.
pazienza: Ife I ga aghota bu na, ndi ndida anyanwu a pughi ime ihe obula n'etiti anyi na ndi obele mba, obulu na obi di ndi obele mba ocha ebe anyi nò
N'ezia, muwa achoputara na enweghi ihe di iche na-etiti ndi obele mba na ndi ndida anyanwu, n'ebe ndi Igbo no. Ha nile bu ofu ihe. Anyi kwesili iji ofu usoro we na eso ha ncha, n'ihi na enweghi ofu na.ime ha, oganihu Igbo anaghi ataji anya.
Biko, edezina na Igbo Izugbe. Dee n'onu Anambara anyi makana ife na atughari asusu ya atuariri ya ndiro anyi ma I dee ya n'Izugbe. Ndi obere mba I fusili n'atu anyi egwu. Mana, oge onodu ihoru otu uzo n'uzo abua ruru, fa ya ahoru anyi. Mgbe afu, anyi emee ife di anyi n'obi. Fa choo ka fa nwelu ana(nwere-onwe) nke fa, anyi enye fa nwere-onwe site n'ebe o ya diri anyi nma. Matakwa na ndi obere mba enwero ofu uche. Enweriri ndi ya ekwenyere anyi. Ifea aburo ifem ya puta bia kwube n'ikuku. Uche ka eji eme ife. Rapugodi ebubo ndi ndida anyanwu n'ebo anyi. Rapu mkpari ndi obere mba a na eme anyi na ogbakor a. Enwero mgbe anyi ga ario ndi anyi kariri nma. Mana, anyi agaro eme ka o diri ndiro anyi nfe site na ikewasi ndi beanyi nakwa ndi obere mbaa gbara anyi gburugburu. Anyi ya n'ekwu etua ka o na awa fa isi. O bu etua ka m si ede na ogbakor ikukua. Obi ya adi mu nma ma I ghota ife delu ebea. Chukwu Okike gba gi ume.
Politics › Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Yujin(m): 2:30pm On May 19, 2020
