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Celebrities / Re: It’s Now Confirmed That Johnny Depp Was The Victim And Not Amber Heard by Zither(m): 7:33pm On Mar 13, 2019
My favourite star, Johnny Depp. At least, it is good to know he isn't guilty of what he was accused of. I love every Johnny Depp movie..never a boring moment.

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Religion / Re: God Was Drinking Beer, Couldn't Save Ethiopian Airlines Crash Victims -atheist by Zither(m): 8:34am On Mar 13, 2019
frank317:


Since u know its human error, why do people thank God they arrive safely? Is that one not human doing?

Typical theists...
- When it goes wrong its human error
- When it goes well , oh God is faithful.

Is this not confusion?
s when the

Since you know it is God's doing, why do people thank the pilots when they arrive safely? Is that one not also God's doing?

Typical atheists...
- When it is wrong it is God to be blamed
- When it goes well, God does not exist

Is this not confusion?

Politics / Re: We’re Compiling Reports On Nigerian Elections – US by Zither(m): 7:17am On Mar 13, 2019
Don't fail to mention the fact that it is the worst election in human history during Buhari's administration.

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Religion / Re: God Was Drinking Beer, Couldn't Save Ethiopian Airlines Crash Victims -atheist by Zither(m): 7:04am On Mar 13, 2019
frank317:
If God exists then he must be the most fuxked up creator ever existed.

He must be wicked, evil and he dumb and psychotic.

I am sure he has helped a christian or a Muslim somewhere find his car keys or get a new job. Or given unmerited favour to one lazy youth. Or better still he is busy dinking tea with one yahoo pastor... After all after the place crash he can easily blame it in evil humans or on the devil who he handed over the world to to torment his loving creations

Or perhaps he allowed them to die because he knows death ain't a thing, pain is just illusion or he intends to punish those who lose their faith as a result of the crash.

Every idea about this God is plane dumb which brings me to the question... What's his role as God? Why waste so much effort and time worshiping an idea which is a useless as the p in psychotic? He does nothing but takes the glory for everything good.

Tomorrow one stupid gospel singer will be singing praise and worship as if he just finished having great sex with Jesus.

Thought you are of the opinion God does not exist. Why are you then blaming a God that doesn't exist as if He manufactured the plane and His error of design led to the death of those passengers?

You have deliberately ignored human error, the very factor that has resulted in the death of an untold number of people, and have chosen to put the blame on an entity you have repeatedly denied His existence probably because you expect Him to always clean up the mess humans make, which when He doesn't you blame Him for the consequences resulting from the mess you created. How is that even logical?
Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 6:35am On Mar 13, 2019
johnydon22:
Nope, you are tending to a need to express that love.

Are you implying that an act of will is a function of need?

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Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 10:53pm On Mar 12, 2019
johnydon22:
Whom exactly is such demonstration meant for?

Aren't you implying a need for self validation here?

If I tended a rose garden for the love of rose flowers would I be pursuing self-validation?

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Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 10:00pm On Mar 12, 2019
TheArranger:

What if i don't want to worship him? Why is there a punishment attached to not worshipping him?

That is where you get it wrong. There is no punishment attached to refusing to worship God. It is not written in the Bible. When a person's spirit is dead, and the person dies physically in that state, he will spend his eternity without Christ, and the only spiritually dead place where a spiritually dead person may dwell is hell. It is not punishment for refusing to worship God, it is the culmination of one's desire to live apart from the Presence of God, and the absence of God is spiritual death.


It was a response to another user. You can see you're not the only one i quoted in my last post

I see that now.

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Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 9:06pm On Mar 12, 2019
TheArranger:

So why do we bother worshipping at all? Of what purpose is worship?

If you knew how much God has helped you, how much He has done for you, how much He loves you then how do you love Him in return, how do you appreciate all He has done for you, what do you do to acknowledge His mercy, love, and goodness towards you? That is worship — that's why we "bother" to worship.


I think the need for expression would be our impasse then. As humans, there is evidence for this need for as far back as our origins go. Other species show this need as well. My questions would be why would an omni-x being express itself, considering how we view expression? I would accept expression for its own sake, but when inferior beings come into the question, that changes everything. The whole "its better to be than not" frankly falls flat on its face. Say that to people living on a dollar a day. Say that to people that have lived short, anguish filled lives full of pain. Say it to sex slaves, manufacturing slaves, etc. And if you both believe in the concept of Hell, love does not work in this equation.

You might want to rephrase your question here as the words in bold ink have no relationship of coherence with the paragraph in plain ink.
Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 8:38pm On Mar 12, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I pondered over it, mulling it over and over again, so read the post 3-4 times before finally succumbing to the feeling of liking it

Lol. I have the impression you give your likes grudgingly, but thanks for the like, and for your careful perusal.
Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 8:28pm On Mar 12, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I think I like this post, so liked it

thanks. just the truth and nothing but
Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 8:26pm On Mar 12, 2019
TheArranger:

But he specifically wants people to worship him? Isn't that a need?

I don't know about you but if i created a Ferrari all by myself, then i'd say that i definitely needed one, for some reason.

It depends on your definition of worship. One can worship God just by loving Him, by spending time talking with Him as Adam and Eve did in the Garden of Eden, by thanking Him for His deeds, etc... You can see that none of this is a sine qua non for His existence or soveriegnty or greatness...attrubutes connected to His omni-x nature.

If God really needed worship to exist, He wouldn't be eternal or ageless. Through science we know that the universe is over 10 billion years old while the human race is not more than two hundred thousand years old. If God needed the "oxygen" of worship to survive why did He not create the human race earlier? We don't even have any idea how much time had passed before He created the universe. That is a no-man's land for science or logic. It could be a 100 or 500 quadrillion years or more before He created the universe itself. What is certain is that His creation is a manifestation of His will which He put into effect at His pre-determined timeframe, and not more. Everything we see was called into existence at the fullness of His set time of His will, not in response to His supposed dependence on a need.

Yes, if you created a Ferrari it is because you needed it and you would be incapacitated without it. This is why it is a creation of need. Unlike man, God is not incapacitated in the absence of His creation. In the book of Jeremiah 32:27, God asks, "I am the LORD of all flesh. Is anything too hard for me?" If I cultivated a rose garden, is it because I need the rose flower? I do it because I love roses.

In the same fashion Man is a creation of God's love, not need. His love is an act of His will. Look at God's creation and acts as an expression, rather than as a means to an end then you will have begun the journey to know Him better.

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Religion / Re: The Concept Of God Is Absurd by Zither(m): 6:31pm On Mar 12, 2019
TheArranger, you did not factor the will of such being into your premises? If God had a need He wouldn't be self-sufficient now, would He?

As a being, He has a will which He manifests in creation. It is easy to confuse the manifestation of will with the satisfaction of need. The manifestation of His will is an expression of His sovereignty, greatness and individuality evidenced by His creation. The satisfaction of a need would imply His dependence on external factors, and as such that would be in contrast with His nature as a God who is before all.

In other words, His omni-x nature is not tied to need; it is tied to His will as a sovereign Being.

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Religion / Re: What Is The Wage Or Salary For Your Current Work? Do You Want A Better Wage? by Zither(m): 9:30pm On Mar 11, 2019
Good read. In simple language with simple illustration makes reading your topics a delight. More grace to you, Amyblessed. Don't know how I missed this but glad I found it.
Religion / Re: Can A Potter Waste His Time & Clay Making Vessels Not Meant For Any Purpose? by Zither(m): 4:33pm On Mar 11, 2019
amyblessed:


Yes I'm good. Thanks. And you?

I'm wonderful, thank you. Always looking forward to your topics.
Religion / Re: Can A Potter Waste His Time & Clay Making Vessels Not Meant For Any Purpose? by Zither(m): 1:33pm On Mar 11, 2019
Topic reminds me of the late Myles Munroe aka The Man of Purpose. This is one of my favourite subjects — purpose. The rewards and benefits of walking in the will and purpose of God for one's life are great and unimaginable, but the result of not walking in them or deviating from them is disastrous, sadly.

A personal goal of mine is always to be found in the center of God's will and purpose whatever the cost because I know that there is where I am fruitful and complete. Outside that lies barrenness.

Amyblessed, good to hear your familiar voice once again. Hope you are good.

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Religion / Re: If You Were To Die Today, Will You Make Heaven? by Zither(m): 6:53am On Mar 11, 2019
That heaven exists may not be verified by physical means, but it is verified by witnesses whom God will use to judge the skeptic, the unbelieving, the scoffers. Many of these witnesses died clinical death and returned to life and their experiences tally with each other across space and time and age so be assured there is nothing like Zeus, Allah, Buddah, Krishna, Ra, or the many other man-invented gods with which the scoffers use to make an argument as regards the uncertainty of the true deity in the afterlife.

Skeptics will remain skeptics even if someone rises from the grave to report what he or she had witnessed. No cure for skepticism except the Holy Spirit touches the person so they can see the truth and walk in it.
Religion / Re: WILL GOD ACCEPT A SOLDIER MAN INTO HEAVEN? by Zither(m): 5:49pm On Feb 24, 2019
A resounding YES. They will make heaven provided they are just in their duty.

When John the baptist was preaching repentance soldiers enquired what they should do to repent, then he replied, "Do not intimidate anyone or accuse falsely, and be content with your wages" (Luke 3:14) NKJV. As long as they do not use their office to commit atrocities or victimize individuals, and if they follow God closely they will make heaven.

If soldiers would not make heaven why then did God send an angel to direct Cornelius, a Roman soldier, to send his men for Peter? The Bible said he was a devout man who feared God and prayed to God always. The Bible also recorded that Cornelius and his household feared God. Read Acts chapter 10.

In the book of Luke chapter 7, Jesus responded to the faith of a Centurion, whose servant was sick and at the point of death, by saying He had not seen such great faith in Israel. If a soldier had the faith for healing which God honoured, would the same God deny his faith to make heaven? Surely not! It is also written, Jesus said, "But whoever denies me before men, him I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 10:33) NKJV.

Every nation MUST have military to defend the nation from external attacks as well as to help in quelling crisis in the nation. That is a fact. How the soldiers go about their primary duty, especially those of the Christian Faith, is what determines whether they make heaven or not.
Crime / Re: Boy Shot Dead While Trying To Vote In Kogi by Zither(m): 5:06pm On Feb 24, 2019
Itscashkid:


Yes cry cry

I'm so sorry for your loss. He was a brave kid. Rest assured, by this act his killers and their masters have also murdered their own sleep and peace. May justice give them an unexpected visit.
Politics / Re: Nigeria Decides: Official Results- PREMIUM TIMES by Zither(m): 6:06pm On Feb 23, 2019
dokie:
The people of kwara mean Saraki o.

Kwara is so far disappointing for pdp.

The core north is also giving Buhari major figures.

I tell you. And you would think that with the rate of wanton and unchecked civilian killings there by the herdsmen to which Mr President has turned a blind eye they would opt to elect another President with the hope that the spate of killings would come to a halt. The North really deserves Buhari.

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Crime / Re: Boy Shot Dead While Trying To Vote In Kogi by Zither(m): 2:58pm On Feb 23, 2019
Itscashkid:
That's my dear cousin. Oh Allah cry cry
Mods please move to FP the news are saying no casualties cry

For real?

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Family / Re: When Will Fathers Reap Their Rewards?? by Zither(m): 1:24pm On Feb 23, 2019
Even the Word of God says "But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
Religion / Re: Michellekabod1, My Apologies. by Zither(m): 9:15pm On Feb 22, 2019
amyblessed:


I think I have gone through this link before, I was too lazy to go through it all, you know the thread is a long one. Sorry for disturbing you o, I blame my laziness and impatience. #laughingatmyself#
Will go through it again tomorrow. Do have a lovely night rest.

hahaha. Don't think that cos you disturbed me not. Was very glay for the opportunity to be of service. smiley Besides, I believe we earn the right to laziness after a stressful day's work... Have a pleasant and wonderful night rest.
Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 9:04pm On Feb 22, 2019
Luvmijeje, I am not opposed or closed-minded to opposing views but your argument is just wrong on so many levels to which Amyblessed has taken the effort to address in words I would have used.

Man exists for God, not the other way round. The artist does not limit his power of creativity to just one tool. He always has various kinds of tools at his disposal to bring his imagination to life. This is why He is still an Artist even when there was no pencil.
Religion / Re: Michellekabod1, My Apologies. by Zither(m): 8:54pm On Feb 22, 2019
amyblessed:


Yes it was. How did yours go? Hope fine?

It was great. Everyday has its challenges but at the end of the day the only thing I remember is God's grace of life for which I thank Him everyday.
Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 8:48pm On Feb 22, 2019
amyblessed:


Yes it was, thanks. And yours?

It was splendid. Reply may be late by hours, nevertheless valid. smiley I had already slept off at the time of your post.
Religion / Re: Michellekabod1, My Apologies. by Zither(m): 8:36pm On Feb 22, 2019
Lovely evening to you, Amyblessed. I trust your day was pleasant.

About Michellekabod1's conversion testimony, here is the link to her first update:
https://www.nairaland.com/5023710/thank-god-finally-don-port/7#75832471

Here is the link to her second update: https://www.nairaland.com/5023710/thank-god-finally-don-port/7#75871371
Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 9:52pm On Feb 21, 2019
amyblessed:


Zither you don't really need to engage these atheists in argument because its mostly a waste of time. Even when you answer their questions, they will twist it the other way round. It's just God that can arrest them.

I'm well-acquainted with that tendency. You are so on point that it is only God who can convict them. Our job is to just pass the message. Hope your day was lovely.
Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 9:49pm On Feb 21, 2019
LordReed:


Very well, so you are saying that faith is a distinct practice from regular living which implies it is not needed for living but essential for a god belief and religious practice right?

Faith is a lifestyle. Is seeking a friend's opinion on your choice of partner a religious practice? If it is not then why is seeking God's opinion on the choice of a partner a religious practice? Friendship with God is not a religious practice.
Politics / Re: 2017 Prophecy: Atiku Will Defeat Buhari In 2019 - Prophet Olagunju by Zither(m): 6:12am On Feb 21, 2019
This is a prophet indeed. So many of his prophecies have already come to pass.

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Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 5:48am On Feb 21, 2019
tintingz:
God created both Good and evil, that alone is enough. The rest of your explanation are confusing and meaningless.

Really? I have made my explanation quite lucid to any reader.
Religion / Re: Who Is Behind The Beautiful Picture, The Artist Or The Pencil? by Zither(m): 5:42am On Feb 21, 2019
LordReed:


As far as I know nothing in this world operates by faith. The sun, air & wind, natural disasters, farming, manufacturing, breathing, sex, childbearing, walking, standing, withdrawing money, making money, seeing, hearing, etc. What in this world operates by faith aside from a belief in god?

The worldly system operates in a different manner from the practise and life of faith obviously. Besides, belief in the existence of God is not the only basis for faith. Getting to know Him personally also requires faith. God is not dead. He is not a myth that was created by figment of imagination. He is a living God and He still talks today as He did in His Word. You may not need faith to date and marry, or relocate to another state, or choose a career, but you do need faith to hear from God to guide you on your choice of marriage, your choice of place to relocate, and your choice of career. It is written, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God" (Romans 8:14). You see, faith goes way beyond belief in God's existence, but this belief in His existence is the foundation of the Christian's walk in Christ.
Religion / Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Zither(m): 10:21pm On Feb 20, 2019
amyblessed:


You are welcome. Let's act like mature Christians that we are and let bygone be bygone. Take care and God bless you.

I will. You can count on that. God bless you, too.

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