aribisala0:
My aim is not to disprove Onitsha as the biggest but RATHER TO PROVE IT. What I can't accept is to claim so without proof Just by Proclamation.Even if Barack Obama says it I will still ask ON WHAT BASIS does he say so.


You are the one that posted a claim that Onitsha is the "NERVE CENTRE OF NIGERIA"
I said internally generated NOT money to the FG.
Please expand your consciousness and stop this an "AMERICAN SAID SO" mentality it is embarassing"
If you Google Largest Open air Market you will come across many names.Those lists do not tell us how or why they claim to their conclusion and so in my opinion,are dubious claims.What is clear is The Largest Market is anyone's guess and no one knows really.By the way Google does not mention Onitsha but that is neither here nor there
Addis Mercato ,Roque Santeiro Market and Karatina are 3 other markets making such claims but when you scratch deeper you cannot find the Basis for these
claims this is the same for Onitsha
All we need to know here is what is
1. The total land mass covered by the Onitsha market
2. Some kind of data on the Turnover
3 This same data for the Number 2 and 3 and 4 markets

how can you talk about number 1 without 2 or 3

This data is more useful than this Oyinbo "talk so mentality"
Tell me that "American 419er INVESTOR" has he come back to invest

Ps since when did TINUBU become a source of TRUTH ?? Please do not make me laff

kettykin:



here is the Data your requested for and i sincerely hope this will assuage all your doubts about the Business prowess of Igbo and of Onitsha
if only Nigeria was a real country people would rather be flying to Onitsha rather than to Dubai to do thier shopping and business.


FMCG in Nigeria

“For all the challenges of the Nigerian market, if companies do not have a Nigeria strategy they do not really have an Africa strategy” (Graham Mackay,CEO, SAB Miller, 2009)

Nigeriahas a significant future-success-story. As Africa’s largest consumer market, the country has a population of about 158 million people. This number is set to double by 2050 to 326 million. There are eight “anchor” cities in Nigeria with populations above 1 million each. This development shows the huge potential for future investment and consumption activity. Also the numbers of the FMCG sector are formidable. The whole sector grew 10 percent between 2000 and 2010. The contribution from FMCG spending to GDP grew enormously over the 10 years from 13 percent to 24.3 percent. Nigerians aged between 16 and 65 reportedly have $100 billion to spend (due to per capita income).

Even though there is a huge potential, there are risks and weaknesses, which have to be taken into consideration. Nigeria ranks 133 from 183 in the ease of doing business index. This is a result of different factors like electricity, contracts, permits and tax issues. Also corruption has to be understood before entering the market.

The most important aspect while thinking about doing business in Nigeria is “informal trade”. According to our own research, 87 percent of the trading in Nigeria happens in informal markets, even with Shoprite, Spar and other supermarket chains entering the country. One of the biggest places for informal trade is the Onitsha market, consisting of 12 specialised markets with 50,000 shops and an FMCG trade volume of $1.5 billion. Most of West Africa is served by this or other similar markets.

aribisala0:

Your so called "data" cites Onitsha as "ONE" of the biggest but doe not tell us THE biggest or the 2nd or 3rd or 4th.This is a mere fraction of the data requested. Onitsha market sells more than FMCG so the volume of trade in Onitsha Market must be quite a lot more presumably.What is lacking is data about other markets
According to your "data" about 1/4 of GDP was spent on FMCG and GDP is about $200 billion so 1/4 is $50 billion of which $1.5billion was spent in Onitsha = 3% .
Where was the other 97% spent ??
I think your remark(bOLDED) is quite stupid and insulting to me! I have never doubted nor challenged Igbo sagacity or otherwise anywhere here. Either you are being deliberately obtuse or mischievous I will not take that from you and I am not interested in further direct exchanges with you since you wish like others to reduce this to an "ATTACK ON IGBOS" by me.

kettykin:
Your so called "data" cites Onitsha as "ONE" of the biggest but doe not tell us THE biggest or the 2nd or 3rd or 4th.This is a mere fraction of the data requested. Onitsha market sells more than FMCG so the volume of trade in Onitsha Market must be quite a lot more presumably.What is lacking is data about other markets
According to your "data" about 1/4 of GDP was spent on FMCG and GDP is about $200 billion so 1/4 is $50 billion of which $1.5billion was spent in Onitsha = 3% .
Where was the other 97% spent ??
I think your remark(bOLDED) is quite stupid and insulting to me! I have never doubted nor challenged Igbo sagacity or otherwise anywhere here. Either you are being deliberately obtuse or mischievous I will not take that from you and I am not interested in further direct exchanges with you since you wish like others to reduce this to an "ATTACK ON IGBOS" by me.




Your so called "data" cites Onitsha as "ONE" of the biggest but doe not tell us THE biggest or the 2nd or 3rd or 4th.This is a mere fraction of the data requested. Onitsha market sells more than FMCG so the volume of trade in Onitsha Market must be quite a lot more presumably.What is lacking is data about other markets
According to your "data" about 1/4 of GDP was spent on FMCG and GDP is about $200 billion so 1/4 is $50 billion of which $1.5billion was spent in Onitsha = 3% .
Where was the other 97% spent ??
I think your remark(bOLDED) is quite stupid and insulting to me! I have never doubted nor challenged Igbo sagacity or otherwise anywhere here. Either you are being deliberately obtuse or mischievous I will not take that from you and I am not interested in further direct exchanges with you since you wish like others to reduce this to an "ATTACK ON IGBOS" by me.



I think you are missing some points sir Onitsha having

Your so called "data" cites Onitsha as "ONE" of the biggest but doe not tell us THE biggest or the 2nd or 3rd or 4th.This is a mere fraction of the data requested. Onitsha market sells more than FMCG so the volume of trade in Onitsha Market must be quite a lot more presumably.What is lacking is data about other markets
According to your "data" about 1/4 of GDP was spent on FMCG and GDP is about $200 billion so 1/4 is $50 billion of which $1.5billion was spent in Onitsha = 3% .
Where was the other 97% spent ??
I think your remark(bOLDED) is quite stupid and insulting to me! I have never doubted nor challenged Igbo sagacity or otherwise anywhere here. Either you are being deliberately obtuse or mischievous I will not take that from you and I am not interested in further direct exchanges with you since you wish like others to reduce this to an "ATTACK ON IGBOS" by me.

I think you are missing some points sir, Onitsha having an FMCG of $1.5B does not translate to Onitsha having a GDP of $1.5B like you are quoting

I think you are missing some points sir, Onitsha having an FMCG of $1.5B does not translate to Onitsha having a GDP of $1.5B like you are quoting One of the biggest places for informal trade is the Onitsha market, consisting of 12 specialised markets with 50,000 shops and an FMCG trade volume of $1.5 billion
The other goods like the Industrials (onitsha stocks a lot of them) soft goods and consumer durables will also take up a very large chunk of the GDP

Also has Ancillary industries too , like Manufacturing, A very Robust Distributive sector employing Millions , packaging and a chunk of the Movies industry

aribisala0: Please let us not be childish there are hundreds of claims on the internet of Largest market in the world or Africa.NONE of them tell us HOW they arrived at this conclusion. What you have done is pick one that says what you like and try and promote that . iMy issue is simple it is only when we know the how that we can discuss valid or Not.
You cannot talk of largest without 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th and by what criteria it is not occultic activity.Tell us THE TOP 10 MARKETS in ranked order



I don't know why you keep referring to Americans ,have you ever been out of Nigeria? Americans are human and have a very superficial knowledge of things outside America.Did not D.Rumsfeld claim Sadaam Hussein was getting Uranium from Nigeria.
Did not this same Economist report it as Gospel before the war .

Please Leave all that yarn about multinationals and Americans and produce some real data not anecdotes

Mr.Aribisala or what ever you call youself i thought you believed in the concept of multi-nationals being the ideal,why the about turn now?I think your mental faculties are failing you better go and sleep or do something tangible with you life instead of displaying youe mediocrity here.Omugu.

Who is kidding who[/b]

The reality is all round Abia state is more of a Nerve centre generating at least twice as much IGR than Anambra

RUNS.TOEFL.GRE:
ABEG OBINNA, STOP HOLDING MY HAND MAKE I TYPE AND FINISH THEM.SEE,YOU ARE A BIG COWARD AND FOOL BY SAYING ANAMBRA HELPED TO DEVELOP MY BEAUTIFUL COAL CITY STATE.DO U HAVE PROVE FOR THAT?GREAT JOB DONE BY MY GOOD GOVERNORS CHIME &CHIMAROKE YOU ARE SAYING ANAMBRA PEOPLE,GOOD ROAD,TRAFFIC SIGNS,STREET LIGHT,SECURITY..CRIME FREE.GOOD BUILDINGS,GOOD UNIVERSITIES,NEAT ENVIRONMENT,GOOD GOVERNANCE,NO BLOOD MONEY INDIGENTS,419NER INDIGENTS,.YOU ARE NOT EVEN ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF BY OPENING UP YOUR DIRTY MOUTH AND SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT..WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR OWN STATE THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DEVELOP IT COS YOU HAVE MISERABLE GOVERNORS?YOU LEAVE YOUR STATE AND DEVELOP ANOTHER PERSON'S STATE.CLAP FOR YOUR SELF,ANUOFFIA.WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING ARE YOU?SINCE 1992 CREATED STATE,EVERY STATE HAS DEVELOPED THEIR STATE,WHILE ANAMBRA IS STILL BACKWARD.I COULD REMEMBER VIVIDLY BEFORE THEY CREATED STATE 1992,HOW ANAMBRA HAS MONOPOLIZED EVERY GOVERNMENT PARASTATALS & MARGINALIZING US ...CALLING US WAWA...ANAMBRA PEOPLE ARE VERY WICKED..MORE LIKE YORUBAS.GO AND REPAIR YOUR STATE THAT ARE ALWAYS BE LIKE A GHETTO DESPITE CLAIM THAT YOU ARE THE MOST MILLIONAIRES IN NIGERIA,BEFORE DEVELOPING OUR STATE.SINCE THEY CREATED STATE SINCE 1992,ANAMBRA IS THE WORST &BACKWARD STATE IN THE ENTIRE EAST,WITH USELESS LEADERSHIP EXCEPT NGIGE,WHICH I LOVE SOMUCH FOR SHOWING THEM LIGHT BUT THEY CHOOSE DARKNESS.WHEN I VISITED ANAMBRA STATE EARLY MAY THIS YEAR,I WAS TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED..DIRT LITTER EVERY WHERE,BAD DRAINAGE,BAD ROAD,ARM ROBBERS,KIDNAPPING,RITUALS,GREEDINESS.IT IS THOSE WHO HAVE NOT VISITED ANAMBRA RECENTLY YOU WILL BE FOOLING.I WILL COME UP WITH PICTURES OF ENUGU,OWERRI AND ANAMBRA TO PROVE IT THAT I AM NOT TALKING WHAT I DO NOT KNOW.ANAMBRA SHOULD BE CALLED DARKNESS OF THE NATION,AND NOT LIGHT OF THE NATION ABEG DO NOT INSULT MY COAL CITY STATE AGAIN..I use god beg u..o o o obinna stop telling me its ok because chino1 people have insulted me to my bone marrow

RUNS.TOEFL.GRE:
ABEG OBINNA, STOP HOLDING MY HAND MAKE I TYPE AND FINISH THEM.SEE,YOU ARE A BIG COWARD AND FOOL BY SAYING ANAMBRA HELPED TO DEVELOP MY BEAUTIFUL COAL CITY STATE.DO U HAVE PROVE FOR THAT?GREAT JOB DONE BY MY GOOD GOVERNORS CHIME &CHIMAROKE YOU ARE SAYING ANAMBRA PEOPLE,GOOD ROAD,TRAFFIC SIGNS,STREET LIGHT,SECURITY..CRIME FREE.GOOD BUILDINGS,GOOD UNIVERSITIES,NEAT ENVIRONMENT,GOOD GOVERNANCE,NO BLOOD MONEY INDIGENTS,419NER INDIGENTS,.YOU ARE NOT EVEN ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF BY OPENING UP YOUR DIRTY MOUTH AND SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT..WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR OWN STATE THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DEVELOP IT COS YOU HAVE MISERABLE GOVERNORS?YOU LEAVE YOUR STATE AND DEVELOP ANOTHER PERSON'S STATE.CLAP FOR YOUR SELF,ANUOFFIA.WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING ARE YOU?SINCE 1992 CREATED STATE,EVERY STATE HAS DEVELOPED THEIR STATE,WHILE ANAMBRA IS STILL BACKWARD.I COULD REMEMBER VIVIDLY BEFORE THEY CREATED STATE 1992,HOW ANAMBRA HAS MONOPOLIZED EVERY GOVERNMENT PARASTATALS & MARGINALIZING US ...CALLING US WAWA...ANAMBRA PEOPLE ARE VERY WICKED..MORE LIKE YORUBAS.GO AND REPAIR YOUR STATE THAT ARE ALWAYS BE LIKE A GHETTO DESPITE CLAIM THAT YOU ARE THE MOST MILLIONAIRES IN NIGERIA,BEFORE DEVELOPING OUR STATE.SINCE THEY CREATED STATE SINCE 1992,ANAMBRA IS THE WORST &BACKWARD STATE IN THE ENTIRE EAST,WITH USELESS LEADERSHIP EXCEPT NGIGE,WHICH I LOVE SOMUCH FOR SHOWING THEM LIGHT BUT THEY CHOOSE DARKNESS.WHEN I VISITED ANAMBRA STATE EARLY MAY THIS YEAR,I WAS TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED..DIRT LITTER EVERY WHERE,BAD DRAINAGE,BAD ROAD,ARM ROBBERS,KIDNAPPING,RITUALS,GREEDINESS.IT IS THOSE WHO HAVE NOT VISITED ANAMBRA RECENTLY YOU WILL BE FOOLING.I WILL COME UP WITH PICTURES OF ENUGU,OWERRI AND ANAMBRA TO PROVE IT THAT I AM NOT TALKING WHAT I DO NOT KNOW.ANAMBRA SHOULD BE CALLED DARKNESS OF THE NATION,AND NOT LIGHT OF THE NATION ABEG DO NOT INSULT MY COAL CITY STATE AGAIN..I use god beg u..o o o obinna stop telling me its ok because chino1 people have insulted me to my bone marrow

chino11: ^

If you can write this then there is hope for diehard doubters on Obi revolution..

ACM10:

I'm only praising good work jare. I don't know for sure if Peter Obi did that job because it is supposed to be a federal project. But one thing is for sure, the place is beautiful.

chino11:


Good..

I saw the entire corridor up to Upper Iweka and Head Bridge with street lights. I decided not to take pictures just for NL members to see, because I know that Onitsha being strategic city connects entire Nigeria via road, that most Nigerians will be witnesses to the revolution. Due to the nature of my job am privileged to know a PA to SSG, who told me that the entire expressway will continue in that manner to Amansea-Awka end of the road.

He equally told me in confidence that Obaze will be the next governor, that his first agenda on the table is to deliver the already federal government approved International Cargo/Passenger Airport to Anambra within 8months of his stay in office, of which the site has been mapped out and fenced by Obi at Nteje-Aguleri areas ..

igbo boy:

e biakwala ozo...you can lie like aturu..

chino11:


Good..

I saw the entire corridor up to Upper Iweka and Head Bridge with street lights. [s]I decided not to take pictures just for NL members to see, because I know that Onitsha being strategic city connects entire Nigeria via road, that most Nigerians will be witnesses to the revolution. Due to the nature of my job am privileged to know a PA to SSG, who told me that the entire expressway will continue in that manner to Amansea-Awka end of the road.

He equally told me in confidence that Obaze will be the next governor, that his first agenda on the table is to deliver the already federal government approved International Cargo/Passenger Airport to Anambra within 8months of his stay in office, of which the site has been mapped out and fenced by Obi at Nteje-Aguleri areas..

chino11:

The people in the know revealed all these to me..and it will happen. It is long over due..

igbo boy:

Chino #1 of Anambraland you are something else..

well I dont know much about Obaze but I sure wouldnt want no ngige or ifeanyi uba to govern Anambra.

igbo boy:

Chino #1 of Anambraland you are something else..

well I dont know much about Obaze but I sure wouldnt want no ngige or ifeanyi uba to govern Anambra.

chino11:


Just google : Oseloka Obaze you will read up his profile. He came from United Nations New York where he has worked for over 21years and rose to become a senior official.

igbo boy:

I could have sworn at one point you were pro Uba...or does that remain?

oseloka will have to run under APGA or else igbos are finished politically

Emperoh:

It is a move the give the people of Anambra North a chance which i think is quite fair
But at the same time, i hope we are not writing an unwritten rule.

Obi has done fairly well and i expect him to handover to someone who will take the stakes higher.
What i don't know is how they intend to resolve the leadership issue with APGA since Obi's man friday Maxi Okwu has lost out to Umeh.

We are watching. However, there are things i don't want to see. As you stated above;

I don't want to see an Ngige (suddenly become too mouthy) or the fraud called Ifeanyi Ubah
I don't want to see a PDP take over! Hell NO!!! Unless of course if it is Charles Soludo
I don't want any of those hawks who ran to APGA after power changed hands. Career politicians will take us back to the dark days

Ultimately, i want to see a scenario where Anambra North is given a chance at the power equation in Anambra State.
So we are waiting on November.


Meanwhile, i am surprised Chino didn't deem it important to take some pictures to at least help promote his paymaster's work here? Even ACM10. . . . this is grand-hand falling!!!