jmaine:

Wrong bruv . .last i checked, GEJ won outstandingly in the strongest ACN state which is [b]Lagos; and he also won in Ogun, Oyo and Ekiti, all with ACN governors[/b] . . .With Osun the only exception to the rule . . .


Our political terrain doesn't equate to 1+1 = 2 . .There are complex undertones that sway the voters

Esss: Whats the point?!! Wether they call themselves CCC, ACC or CPN, the first problem that all the opposition have is ethinic divide.. The only Uniting political Party in Nigeria till tomorrow remains the PDP. From the North to the South. You cant call them an Igbo Party like APGA, cant call them an Yoruba Party like ACN (& AD), Cant call them a Cattlfucking Party like CPC...

Secondly, the PDP might have produced crooked leaders, but the other advantage they have is that they have their house in other.. Who ever runs shiit in the PDP (Obasanjo) has his machine working at optimum efficiency.. Even if the party principals dont like it, they always seem to put party interest above theirs.. If you no gree, they evict you like Atiku.

The Igbos will never vote for a CPC & ACN coalition party.. Dont forget that the ethinicity that both parties represent have betrayed Ndi Igbos in the past especially the Yoruba one.. Ask for the South-South, their allegeance to the PDP is as solid as Rock.. They may elect an ACN governor, but the presidency belongs to the PDP.

All the top gunners in the coalition party are not widely acceptable.. Not BUHARI (The war monger and NYSC killer), El-Rufai (The Boko Haram Sympatiser), Bakare (the two-tongued Political Pastor), Tinubu (the Yoruba criminal)...


The PDP already owns the East and the South-south.. The Middle belt will go to the PDP, The northern votes will be split and majority of the Western votes will also go to PDP.. In the end, PDP wins yet again... Jonathan till 2019... Fresh Breeze Campaign team wins!!!

danjohn:

My friend, you need to look at the potential of the merger. Yes, ACN controls 6 states and CPC controls only 1. But in the 2011 Presidential election Buhari won 12 states and over 12 million votes.

If you add the 12 states Buhari won to the 6 states ACN controls, that is 18. ACN has the financial resources and CPC has a political personality who is very popular in 12 states. The task at hand is, how can you make Buhari's popularity in the North trickle down to electoral victories on the local level?

Mekusnwa: ochi ato gbuo m. I'm laughing in Igbo. Buhari and co are just a bunch of clowns. You are forming a party around Atiku, Tinubu, El Rufai & Bakare and expect the party to stand. LWKMD. Talk about a marriage between our corrupt icons and the politically naive.
Besides, I beg to ask, where are the south east and south south leaders in this formation? I guess Buhari has not learnt from his mistakes in 2011. He still thinks Nigeria to be only in the North West. Sorry.
Tomorrow if we return 90 % again for GEJ, they will cry foul. But they are forming their party now without reaching out to the South south and South East.

D sage:

You are example of gullible and anti-developed person I ever know. So,a party that've been ruling us for the past 13years with little or no concrete development is now a good/solid party to you? What you typed here were not but stupid analysis. Because a party have a good structure and solid foundation,we should continue to vote them into power.

I pity your so called SS/SE people.

D sage:

You are example of gullible and anti-developed person I ever know. So,a party that've been ruling us for the past 13years with little or no concrete development is now a good/solid party to you? What you typed here were not but stupid analysis. Because a party have a good structure and solid foundation,we should continue to vote them into power.

I pity your so called SS/SE people.

bjdon: Even if the merger works, AC-CPC will fail in the Presedential election if anyone other than Fashola is presented as the Presidential candidate. I think Fashola will be able to win votes in the SE/SS added to the SW and NW that should secure victory. If either Tinubu or Osama bin Buhari is the candidate, then GEJ is secured a second term. El Rufai is a joke who would not even win his state, and the less said about the loud mouth pastor the better.

Another point to consider is even if the ACN-CPC merger dose produce the president, will they produce a majority, let alone 2/3rds in the NASS? If they are unable to do that then we could have a situation where nothing much changes as the President would be forced to compromise with the PDP controlled NASS.

danjohn:

I agree with you that there are complex undertones that sway voters. Remember that Ribadu's candidacy was severely damaged by the failure of the alliance talks to be fruitful. In addition, ACN did not mobilize voters for Ribadu on Election Day. I know that for a fact.

danjohn:

If you think that Jonathan is still as popular in the SW as he was in 2011, then a big surprise is awaiting you. People were hoodwinked, they believed in Jonathan's tale of having no shoes.

danjohn:

Yes, SW voted Jonathan for President but they elected ACN governors. The NW and NE voted for Buhari for President, but they voted for PDP governors as well. What I am saying is that if ACN and CPC come together, they have a realistic chance of making inroads in 18 states. They have proven that they have some level of support in those states. An alliance can help solidify that support.

The Southwest is disappointed with Jonathan. Jonathan will probably lose the SW in 2015. However, it does not mean that he will lose the Presidency. All Jonathan needs is to win the SE, SS, and NC and hold steady at 25 - 30% in the NW and WE as he did in 2011. Even if he loses the SW, there are enough Igbos and Niger Delta folks in the SW to give him 35 - 40%.

After all is said and done, the most realistic outcome of the alliance is a very respectable second place finish in the Presidential election (45% and above), more governors and legislators for the opposition, and momentum to have a very realistic chance of winning the Presidency in 2019.

danjohn:

Notwithstanding, anything can still happen. A Fashola candidacy for President could make GEJ pee in his pants.

danjohn:

Yes, SW voted Jonathan for President but they elected ACN governors. The NW and NE voted for Buhari for President, but they voted for PDP governors as well. What I am saying is that if ACN and CPC come together, they have a realistic chance of making inroads in 18 states. They have proven that they have some level of support in those states. An alliance can help solidify that support.

The Southwest is disappointed with Jonathan. Jonathan will probably lose the SW in 2015. However, it does not mean that he will lose the Presidency. All Jonathan needs is to win the SE, SS, and NC and hold steady at 25 - 30% in the NW and WE as he did in 2011. Even if he loses the SW, there are enough Igbos and Niger Delta folks in the SW to give him 35 - 40%.

After all is said and done, the most realistic outcome of the alliance is a very respectable second place finish in the Presidential election (45% and above), more governors and legislators for the opposition, and momentum to have a very realistic chance of winning the Presidency in 2019.

Notwithstanding, anything can still happen. A Fashola candidacy for President could make GEJ pee in his pants.

Esss: Whats the point?!! Wether they call themselves CCC, ACC or CPN, the first problem that all the opposition have is ethinic divide.. The only Uniting political Party in Nigeria till tomorrow remains the PDP. From the North to the South. You cant call them an Igbo Party like APGA, cant call them an Yoruba Party like ACN (& AD), Cant call them a Cattlfucking Party like CPC...

Secondly, the PDP might have produced crooked leaders, but the other advantage they have is that they have their house in other.. Who ever runs shiit in the PDP (Obasanjo) has his machine working at optimum efficiency.. Even if the party principals dont like it, they always seem to put party interest above theirs.. If you no gree, they evict you like Atiku.

The Igbos will never vote for a CPC & ACN coalition party.. Dont forget that the ethinicity that both parties represent have betrayed Ndi Igbos in the past especially the Yoruba one.. Ask for the South-South, their allegeance to the PDP is as solid as Rock.. They may elect an ACN governor, but the presidency belongs to the PDP.

All the top gunners in the coalition party are not widely acceptable.. Not BUHARI (The war monger and NYSC killer), El-Rufai (The Boko Haram Sympatiser), Bakare (the two-tongued Political Pastor), Tinubu (the Yoruba criminal)...


The PDP already owns the East and the South-south.. The Middle belt will go to the PDP, The northern votes will be split and majority of the Western votes will also go to PDP.. In the end, PDP wins yet again... Jonathan till 2019... Fresh Breeze Campaign team wins!!!

noblezone:

I wish that Nigeria's problems are really 13 years old.

In 2014, our problem will be 100 years old. It all started in 1914 when Lord Luggard the "political scientist" went to his "lab" to mix the non-mixable and mistakenly produced Nigeria.

What is our National ideology? Can the man from Borno and the man from Anambra ever sit down and agree on a common vision? Nigeria is so ethnically and religiously divided that the parties are nothing but mere acronyms.

Besides, I am yet to see the front line politicians with any form of National concepts and national ideology. Nigeria is not a nation. You guys can hope against hope but just know that it doesn't matter who becomes the head of state, progress will still be slow.

sbeezy8:

you make no sense. to think that non SW living will in the SW is around 30-40% is just plain.... D.UMB.

DUMBLUCK wont lose SW, what makes SW different from SE or SS, HES disappointing to the whole nation not just the SW. if anything MAJORITY OF SW 60-70% people will not even care about 2015- the remaining will vote for GEJ as they did in 2011.

ur average SW person is indifferent for the most part but knows- voting for buhari or any candidate from the north over Dumbluck is asinine. what does that benefit the SW.

noblezone:

I wish that Nigeria's problems are really 13 years old.

In 2014, our problem will be 100 years old. It all started in 1914 when Lord Luggard the "political scientist" went to his "lab" to mix the non-mixable and mistakenly produced Nigeria.

What is our National ideology? Can the man from Borno and the man from Anambra ever sit down and agree on a common vision? Nigeria is so ethnically and religiously divided that the parties are nothing but mere acronyms.

Besides, I am yet to see the front line politicians with any form of National concepts and national ideology. Nigeria is not a nation. You guys can hope against hope but just know that it doesn't matter who becomes the head of state, progress will still be slow.

danjohn:

There is a large non-Yoruba population in Lagos. Outside of Lagos the SW is predominantly Yoruba. The larger point I was making was that even if Jonathan loses the SW, he will still get btwn 30 and 40% because of ethnic and religous reasons.

Ufeolorun: jonathan popular in the SW His win was an ACN/Jonathan arrangee- Money deals,lowering pdp gubernatorial resistance in Ogun and Oyo.These were more important to Acn than a long shot presidential candidate(Ribadu),now that more ground has been conceded to acn and they are stronger for it,Jonathan has nothing really to offer them any more and that's why I think they would be more serious about this merger or alliance.
Elrufai and Buhari would have to do a lot of work to translate their popularity to more governors and votes-Jonathan winning Gombe/Adamawa without a trade off with cpc was an insult(there was definitely a trade off for every SW states he won)

The resistance to pdp in 2015 will be strong,direct and recalibrating, all in all the politicians will benefit most.

sbeezy8:

GEJ in exchange to who? Ribadu/ Buhari?

Ufeolorun: jonathan popular in the SW His win was an ACN/Jonathan arrangee- Money deals,lowering pdp gubernatorial resistance in Ogun and Oyo.These were more important to Acn than a long shot presidential candidate(Ribadu),now that more ground has been conceded to acn and they are stronger for it,Jonathan has nothing really to offer them any more and that's why I think they would be more serious about this merger or alliance.
Elrufai and Buhari would have to do a lot of work to translate their popularity to more governors and votes-Jonathan winning Gombe/Adamawa without a trade off with cpc was an insult(there was definitely a trade off for every SW states he won)

The resistance to pdp in 2015 will be strong,direct and recalibrating, all in all the politicians will benefit most.

ikpoba_1: THERE ARE ONLY TWO NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTIES IN NIGERIA: THEY ARE ANPP AND PDP. OTHERS ARE TRIBAL/ETHNIC ASSOCIATIONS AND CANNOT HOLD IN MODERN NIGERIA. IS IT CPC? APGA? ACN? OR WHAT? IN OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE YORUBA PARTY, IBO PARTY OR HOUSA PARTY. EVERY PARTY IS UNIFYING. YOU GUYS SHOULD WAKE UP

Esss:


If you say 13 years of PDP hasnt gotten us anywhere, then you are a fallacious liar and the truth is not in you...

Esss:


If you say 13 years of PDP hasnt gotten us anywhere, then you are a fallacious liar and the truth is not in you...

jmaine:

Hilarious . .it will do you much good to always keep quiet . . .

clues & Home work ====> Go do a lil comparison between the Gubernatorial and Presidential, pay attention to their similarity . .then come back and debate

bjdon: Even if the merger works, AC-CPC will fail in the Presedential election if anyone other than Fashola is presented as the Presidential candidate. I think Fashola will be able to win votes in the SE/SS added to the SW and NW that should secure victory. If either Tinubu or Osama bin Buhari is the candidate, then GEJ is secured a second term. El Rufai is a joke who would not even win his state, and the less said about the loud mouth pastor the better.

Another point to consider is even if the ACN-CPC merger dose produce the president, will they produce a majority, let alone 2/3rds in the NASS? If they are unable to do that then we could have a situation where nothing much changes as the President would be forced to compromise with the PDP controlled NASS.

Ufeolorun:
I don't have time for long winded faffs, am still very young and busy but 1 pdp is a bad brand where i come from and 2 Jonathan never had any political capital and was never a compelling candidate hence his win (especially in Lagos and Ekiti)was a free pass ,no need for any soggy guber. or presidential analysis.

jmaine:

How did the bolded part make any sense to you . .or even remotely support your Tinubu - GEJ election exchange tripe

Make sure you always keep quiet if you don't have anything meaningful to say or add

Ufeolorun: Well it makes sense to me cos i dont have a laptop assigned to me,you get me?

No political capital,not compelling = needed help from Tinubu
About being quiet,
OK.

Ufeolorun: jonathan popular in the SW His win was an ACN/Jonathan arrangee- Money deals,lowering pdp gubernatorial resistance in Ogun and Oyo.These were more important to Acn than a long shot presidential candidate(Ribadu),now that more ground has been conceded to acn and they are stronger for it,Jonathan has nothing really to offer them any more and that's why I think they would be more serious about this merger or alliance.
Elrufai and Buhari would have to do a lot of work to translate their popularity to more governors and votes-Jonathan winning Gombe/Adamawa without a trade off with cpc was an insult(there was definitely a trade off for every SW states he won)

The resistance to pdp in 2015 will be strong,direct and recalibrating, all in all the politicians will benefit most.