~Royal~:


I was talking about Popularity as Well. I gave examples of the Hip Hop Stranglehold on Popularity from both Demographics

And you said you can't recall a hardcore rapper that has crossed bridges while they were hardcore

50 cent was not a household name...he is the answer to your question

He was a Hardcore rapper who crossed over and had his highest success during his "gangsta" image

After he got soft, and turned pop...making videos with Justin timberlake...people stopped buying his music.

50 Cent was not Mainstream since day 1.

Ill give you a Rapper right now...

"The Game"

His main album sold over 5 million when he was with Aftermath.

He was killing the charts.

Hip Hop music has a Strangle Hold on popularity they dominate the Triple headed monster, Television,Charts,Urban Mega Cities

Why are Media Whoores like Kim K chasing after Hip Hop Artist instead of artist from majority white genre's if Hip Hop artist are not the most Popular?

Don't say it's race because there are Black Artist from Other Music Genre

ogugua88: Was 50 Cent ever known as a hardcore rapper? I don't think so, and that's my point exactly. The first track that hit mainstream radio was "In Da Club", which even had grandmas dancing. "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'"... isn't that considered a mainstream rap album? Several tracks got massive airplay.

~Royal~:
How do record Sales and Visibility not Equal Popularity?

...If they sell the most...

...If they are on Tv the Most....

How are they not the Most Popular?

i see these rappers on talk shows every day.

I think you just dislike Hip Hop artist and tried to make a false claim they could not carry weight

Personally i don't blame you for disliking the artist

But you have to give credit where credit is due, Hip Hop Artist Dominate the Music Game

2Chainz has the number one album in America right now...The niqqqah is flat out [size=16pt]Garbage!
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That alone should tell you something.

CAMEROONPRIDE: i ccosign rapper are no longer active it's all about hip hop/RnB now

~Royal~:

This can't be a serious question.......

He is the Epitome of a Hardcore Rapper.

His original claim to fame was getting shot 9 times, and living to write about it.

Album Content was nothing about selling cokke and compiling bodies..

Yet sold like 14 million copies or some outlandish number

Come on now......

50 cent Musical Content during his Prime was as Gangsta as it comes.

I think you are judging Rappers by their "club" singles and not their entire content and true persona

Hell 50 even released a video for "Many Men" off that Album, speaking nothing else but direct Murder

~Royal~:
I can tell by 88's "nevada" line she was trying to allude to the fact "White America" does not know Hip Hop artist

Which is not true at all

"White America" are Rap artist Largest Purchasing Audience.

These little white suburban Kids eat these Rap Albums up like Kandii...wtf @that spelling..I mean Candy.

~Royal~:


Rappers are no longer active...yet a rapper is number 1 on the billboard charts right now as we speak (2Chainz)

Do you think before you type your foolishness brah? lol

ogugua88:

*sighs*

Royal, that album was a mainstream album. Hardcore music is what you and your two friends only know. If your whole school is talking about it, if it's getting news coverage, and if it's getting play on American radios, then it's mainstream.

~Royal~:
You don't get it...

An ALbum "becomes" Mainstream by virtue of Success...not by it's content.

50 cent was a Nobody prior to that ALbum being released

Guys like 2chainz did hundreds of mixtapes prior to him having the number 1 album in America...

You are trying to make the correlation to "mainstream" as being less hard core

and I am explaining to you it's not

"singles" are softer for the sole purposes of radio play

The album's content speak of destructive murderous lyrics and cokke dealing.

Why do you keep calling this man's work "Mainstream"...When it was released 97% of america had not even heard of him

You can only be Mainstream if you are already Known, otherwise you have no "main"..."stream" To channel your content Through.

Your Correlation between Mainstream Rap Music and Popularity is wrong

The Artist "Makes himself Mainstream"...not the other way around.

CAMEROONPRIDE: only one can you compare is popularity with the hip hop and RnB artists? who knows him outside America?

~Royal~:
@88

The music industry is down across the board from Every Genre

because of Pirating and Modern Day Technology.

Your Mainstream and Hardcore analogy was flawed as hell

Why does this woman think 50 cent get rich or die trying was Mainstream pop music?

The Title Alone should tell you something......

ogugua88:

Something's gotta give in order to become mainstream. Unless you're lucky like Katy Perry and people accept weird, you usually have to conform somehow. Rihanna was doing well with her first two albums. Jay-Z featured on a track and Rihanna got a haircut. She was no longer the cute island girl. She became became a good girl gone bad.

That's what the big powerhouses in the music industry are for. Kanye, Jay-Z, Akon, Dr Dre, Timbaland, Keri Hilson (for songwriting), Usher, etc. Most musicians don't want to stray from their roots. Usually they have to for marketability reasons. Usher made Justin Bieber. Keri Hilson wrote for Britney Spears, Usher, and a host of others. The list goes on. It wasn't until 50 Cent teamed up with Eminem and Dr Dre that he became known. Eminem and Dre know something about marketability, especially with rap as it's that much harder.

~Royal~:

The only reason 50 cent "became mainstream" is because the Purchasing public was sick and tired of the junk Ja-Rule was Putting out

And his Beefs with other rappers including him, helped his record sales and gave him extraordinary sales figures

He did not give anything to become mainstream, truth be told the softer his music got...the less units he pushed

Look it up.

~Royal~:
He became mainstream off "Beef"...it's as simple as that.

Jarule was the number 1 rapper prior to 50 entering the game

Their Beef Ended Jarule's career and sparked 50's

It seems like this conversation has switched gears from "Rappers Carry Last"

To..."Gangsta Rappers Carry Last"

Truthfully i can't even agree with that either, because you have 2chainz and rick ross at #1 and #3 ..

Two bums who do nothing but rap about cokke, women and Gunz all day

~Royal~:


Do Rap Artist from America, go outside of America and Sell out Concerts all over the World?

is A Rap artist currently at Number 1 on the Billboard charts?

How can you say Rappers are no longer Active, when they continue to run the game

Makes no sense.

Where are the Numbers to back it up?

I posted Number on the Previous Page.

If Rappers were no longer relevant we would not have music charts with garbage rappers as number 1 and we would not have so many people on this Nigerian Forum all Jocking on how much they Love Rick Ross.

~Royal~:


D[b]o Rap Artist from America, go outside of America and Sell out Concerts all over the World?
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is A Rap artist currently at Number 1 on the Billboard charts?

How can you say Rappers are no longer Active, when they continue to run the game

Makes no sense.

Where are the Numbers to back it up?

I posted Number on the Previous Page.

If Rappers were no longer relevant we would not have music charts with garbage rappers as number 1 and we would not have so many people on this Nigerian Forum all Jocking on how much they Love Rick Ross.

ogugua88:

Are 2chainz and Rick Ross gangsters?
I just checked out 2chainz's wiki bio. He went to school through university with good grades. It says he surprised his high school teacher by finishing second in his class lol.

Who cares what they say? You know fully well that what some people sing and rap can be completely contrary to what actually happens in their lives. Ie Drake and most Nigerian musicians. Several Nigerian singers are like "my levels don change, I dey pop champagne" but they can't afford recharge cards.

~Royal~:
~No Rappers are actual "Gangsters" its all Lies~