Scream: ****Was Ngige's regime not illegal? Someone that stole the people's mandate...why do they still refer to him as a former governor? His performance in a position he got into through the back door is no justification for such respect IMO.

cdamsel: if oyibo neva dey d pix e neva complete,wld probably make d project look "local".wen ll we learn?arghhhhh

conyema12:


Onwu-chuks,[/b][b] why cant you acknowledge a wonderful development... Does it matter if it is privately owned. The fact that the State is a major stake holder speaks volume. Plz try and be positive..dont always look for points to blindly criticise. Atuoro omara omara atuororo ofeke ofenye isi na ohia.. A word is enough for the wise

opoke: This red cap fits GEJ o!

COOLDUN:

As long as people like.AGUIYI IRONSI,YAKUBU GOWON,MURTALA MUHAMED,OBJ,BUHARI,IBB,E.SHONEKON,ABACHA,and ABDUL SALAM ABUBAKAR are addressed as ex presidents and heads of states of Nigeria,then Dr Chris Ngige is justified to be addressed as the ex governor. He was an ex governor by the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Take your sermon to Equatorial Guinea pls,or Mauritania.

inufele22: What is the problem with you kobo kobo people? Dem find oyel at Anambra yet you keep abusing the Yorubas, can't you guys say or do anything without mentioning Yorubas? Abi na Yoruba man swear for una?
If you can't sleep na Yoruba, if you're hungry na Yoruba even if you eat too much and your belle dey rumble you Yoruba! Wetin now?
Abegi if you no want problem and una just want celebrate your new oyel (curse) jejely, make una no mention Yoruba for this thread.

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Actually, having read a few responses here, l was like "Why are these guys so full of anger against the Yoruba race"? Are they still smarting from the "civil war", two generations after?
But then, its not just the Yoruba race, they have the same attitude towards the Northerners....and that brings us to the Question:

Who do the Igbos like, in this Nigeria? Just themselves only?
Well, they may be cozy-ing to the ND today (we still remember what they tried doing to them during their "attempted forced annexation" of the Mid-West and South-South, during the Biafran war.

Like they say, "What the Dog saw and is BARKING, is child's play compared to what the Sheep saw and is just WATCHING silently". Yorubas are generally not the "brash, mouthy types" by their inherent nature. very cool-headed race, calculating and decisive when they need to act.
Until the Igbos learn to be less aggressive and use more of "intellect" than "brawn", they will continue to play second-fiddle.

I am happy that Oil is discovered in Anambra state, l hope more is discovered in other states as well. It can only mean more jobs, less fuel scarcity and hopefully, they can leverage on the mistakes other "ohyely" tribes have made earlier

As for the "WEST" (Yoruba land), discovery of oil in various states, is no longer news, it is stale news!
Anyone that thinks the Yorubas dont have more than enough resources (human and material) to progress rapidly, must be deluding him/herself!

Like one Igboman said earlier, "all they have is management level people", in other words, "Yorubas develop the mind".......but then, "every other thing is conceptualized in the mind"! Now you see who is wise?

That Yorubas occupy the largest management positions in the land, is no news either, we are not only educated but we are "highly intelligent, beyond the "common sense level" that is not even common. This is not a boast, as some of our other tribes have said same on this and many other thread.

@Policewoman: "you said the Igbos are here to stay in Lagos"...,

l will respond by saying they are all welcome but you must not forget that "Biafra is your dream" and you cant be in two places at the same time! Are you then confused?

You can call the Yorubas all the "bad names" you want simply because you have discovered one Oil Block , it still does not change reality.

Now, my "suggestion" to our Igbo brothers:

1.) Its good to be confident but you must draw the line where "Self-Confidence metamorphoses into blind arrogance and Pride". Pride usually goes before a big fall. I pray you dont fall again.

2.) Diplomacy is the to win a war, without firing a bullet: Igbos need to really learn this from grass-root! All too often, the Igbo man is spoiling for a "fight" based on some "innate, genetic aggressiveness"! This has made the Igbo man, an unwanted enemy, wherever they locate (and they wander afar!). You cannot always be aggressive towards your host and expect to be welcomed for long. Use tact, even when you can use "muscle" after all, there are more challenges in the future.In this regard, you have tons to learn from the Yoruba culture.

3.) Charity begins at home: I often wonder why an Igbo man will boats to high heavens, that he developed and owns "LAGOS" while his homeland is a relic of Erosion Gullies and abandoned "white elephant" castles! Is this not foolhardy? Did you learn any lesson from "history", especially the aftermath of the war? The Yorubas also migrate and there are many of them as Bankers in the "East" but hardly would you see them building mansions there, not even in Abuja!
well, maybe the Yorubas are actually not on the "same level" when it comes to "foresight", with our other brothers. I pray the day would never come when what l just wrote will be used a "reference". Mind you, the Yorubas are the most welcoming of all Nigerian tribes and your "progress' in all Yoruba land attests to that.

In another post, l will like to "explore the possible outcomes of the various scenarios" that may result, in response to issues raised by our Igbo brothers, on how "Lagos" will become "empty", "poor", "failed", e.t.c, if and when, the Igbos decide to "move out" of Lagos. I hope they dont but if they do......

Lastpage!
BTW: You would have observed that l did not "pass insult" nor use foul language in my post. It's not a co-incidence. Not everyone may respond except those that can reason above gutter-level.

asha 80:

what you said above might be true but i do not see how the yorubas would get regional autonomy (which if you are honest to admit is what yorubas what) without some sort of battle against the feudal north as they are not going to give up on this structure easily.

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I am not advocating regional autonomy in my post. I was "reacting" to those who say that once the Igbo leave Lagos, it is doomed.
having said that, l think in order of priority, the Yorubas:


1.) Yorubas will prefer "Confederacy" where each region is semi-autonomous in terms of "development, income and expenditure) ....and we contribute "a percentage" to the central government. We actually prefer this the most as we get the benefit of a big country (big market, big population, e.t.c) while maintaining our "ability and flexibility" to develop at our own pace and challenge ourselves. Best of both worlds!
It might even sound arrogant but l think the Yorubas "think" they are "a cut above the rest", within the Nigerian setting. The "Old Western region" was an example of what we think we can do, if Confederacy is selected.

2.) If the above is difficult to achieve (as we stand now), they Yorubas will advocate a "fair share" of what is on the table...which can be seen for our agitation for "Presidency Role", ....and l guess 2-terms on the go, is a starting point. Any objective observer will agree that Yorubas have a way of getting what they want without "warring" or "prostituting their rights".


3.) As a last resort, Yorubas will prefer "complete regional autonomy" but would not go to war to drive it home (under certain conditions). I have said it before that it is very difficult, if not completely impossible for "one major tribe" to decide to break-away, without the support of another major tribe.
And Yorubas are not suicidal by nature.

That is why l wonder when my Igbo brothers chant "Biafra" and yet "openly declare so much hatred for their Yoruba folks".....who seem their only possible ticket for self determination! Or do you think 'the North' would allow them now, when they did not allow them in 1967? Even, current events point otherwise.

Only a "simultaneous break-away" of TWO MAJOR TRIBES can succeed....since the third tribe cannot fight two wars on two front, moreover, access to "open sea" is a major advantage in war time as modern warfare is "Air and Sea", with the "Air-power" depending so much on a "Sea Platform". (that is one problem the Free Syrian Army has now, for getting weapons from outsiders; they are land-locked! )

asha 80:

i doubt that the candidate for (no 2) that would win on any eventuality is the type of yoruba candidate that yorubas would like to vote for.history is there for all to see.

asha 80: as for (no 1) forget it as the chance of each region getting that was lost sometime ago.

as for (no 3) the yorubas can only get that if only other southern groups especially south south agree to it which seems likely.yorubas cannot go it alone.

bail-out.

In conclusion, all these bigotry against someone you need most (Yorubas) is like shooting yourself in the face!
This is what l am trying to point out to all our "internet warriors", Igbo brothers.

asha 80:

i doubt that the candidate for (no 2) that would win on any eventuality is the type of yoruba candidate that yorubas would like to vote for.history is there for all to see.

as for (no 1) forget it as the chance of each region getting that was lost sometime ago.

as for (no 3) the yorubas can only get that if only other southern groups especially south south agree to it which seems likely.yorubas cannot go it alone.

cantell:
You've dated more than 30 Igbo girls? Clap for yourself! The level of your stupidity is quite boring.
Do you think we care if one foolish Igbo girl was silly enough to spread her legs for you?
Let me make one thing clear, if you truly have an Igbo friend like you claim to, you'll never say anything bad about Igbos, online or anywhere.
Friends do not talk about their friends behind their backs.
Btw, if you've actually dated about 30 Igbo women(slept with, is the right word) it simply means you're reaching out either because you admire them(Igbos) or you hate them so much and the only way you think you can get back at them is by sleeping around with their women.
Pathetic and unsound way of dealing with pain/hate.
Also, judging from the way you sound in your posts, it's quite obvious you're still a kid, cos any guy who goes around talking about the women he slept with, is nothing but a kid.
if you're a day older than 30, then i must sadly say that all hope is lost.

lastpage:
I am not advocating regional autonomy in my post. I was "reacting" to those who say that once the Igbo leave Lagos, it is doomed.
having said that, l think in order of priority, the Yorubas:


1.) Yorubas will prefer "Confederacy" where each region is semi-autonomous in terms of "development, income and expenditure) ....and we contribute "a percentage" to the central government. We actually prefer this the most as we get the benefit of a big country (big market, big population, e.t.c) while maintaining our "ability and flexibility" to develop at our own pace and challenge ourselves. Best of both worlds!
It might even sound arrogant but l think the Yorubas "think" they are "a cut above the rest", within the Nigerian setting. The "Old Western region" was an example of what we think we can do, if Confederacy is selected.

2.) If the above is difficult to achieve (as we stand now), they Yorubas will advocate a "fair share" of what is on the table...which can be seen for our agitation for "Presidency Role", ....and l guess 2-terms on the go, is a starting point. Any objective observer will agree that Yorubas have a way of getting what they want without "warring" or "prostituting their rights".


3.) As a last resort, Yorubas will prefer "complete regional autonomy" but would not go to war to drive it home (under certain conditions). I have said it before that it is very difficult, if not completely impossible for "one major tribe" to decide to break-away, without the support of another major tribe.
And Yorubas are not suicidal by nature.

That is why l wonder when my Igbo brothers chant "Biafra" and yet "openly declare so much hatred for their Yoruba folks".....who seem their only possible ticket for self determination! Or do you think 'the North' would allow them now, when they did not allow them in 1967? Even, current events point otherwise.

Only a "simultaneous break-away" of TWO MAJOR TRIBES can succeed....since the third tribe cannot fight two wars on two front, moreover, access to "open sea" is a major advantage in war time as modern warfare is "Air and Sea", with the "Air-power" depending so much on a "Sea Platform". (that is one problem the Free Syrian Army has now, for getting weapons from outsiders; they are land-locked! )