Femi 1:

I never knew God use to eat until i read it in the Bible, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh:" Moses,Aaron,Nadab,Abihu, and seventy of the leaders of isreal went up the mountain and they saw the God of isreal.Beneath his feet was what looked like a pavement of sapphire, as blue as the sky.God did not harm these leading men of isreal; they saw God, and then they ate and drank together"Exodus 24v9-11.
I'm waiting for reply from you about this contradictions.

MC Usman:

@4Him.
Stop that crap about other contradictions answer the question. Was it 40,000 stalls or 4,000 stalls, this forum was specifically meant for you, stand up and be your self.

I have other contradictions to point out from the Qur'an; and if you assume that 4Him or anybody else is making crap because they point out the hypocrisy of the poster, then also Muslims should be answerable to the several questions that have been offered them and stop their own crappola

babs787:

@stimulus

You may raise the thread for that so as not to deflect this very one

ayinba1:

@stimulus, which one be ya own? ta n pe e soro? Let david answer now, haba, falana gbo ti e

4Him, You have not say anything about the contradictions i brought out from the bible yesterday:
1). "Solomon had forty thousand stalls for his horses and twelve thousand calvary horses". 1king 4v26. But 2chronicle 9v25 says" King solomon also had four thousand(4,000) stalls for his horses and had twleve thousand calvary horses".

2). "No one has ever seen God . The only son , who is the same as God and is at the father's side, he has made him known".John 1v18. But Jacob said "I have seen God face to face, and i am still alive", Gen 32v30.

I never knew God use to eat until i read it in the Bible, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh:" Moses,Aaron,Nadab,Abihu, and seventy of the leaders of isreal went up the mountain and they saw the God of isreal.Beneath his feet was what looked like a pavement of sapphire, as blue as the sky.God did not harm these leading men of isreal; they saw God, and then they ate and drank together"Exodus 24v9-11.
I'm waiting for reply from you about this contradictions.

focused:

I would advise you to stop exposing your advance ignorance.

Femi 1:

I never knew God use to eat until i read it in the Bible, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh:" Moses,Aaron,Nadab,Abihu, and seventy of the leaders of isreal went up the mountain and they saw the God of isreal.Beneath his feet was what looked like a pavement of sapphire, as blue as the sky.God did not harm these leading men of isreal; they saw God, and then they ate and drank together"Exodus 24v9-11.

"Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought, so the Prophet (Muhammad) exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places. He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina."
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:362)

"Omar reported from the Holy Prophet who said, 'No man shall be questioned for beating his wife.'"
(Al Hadis, Vol. 1, p. 215)

"Prophet said: 'When the slave runs away from his master, his prayer is not accepted; he is an infidel.'"
(Hadith No. Muslim 32)

"Prophet said: 'Then go to the persons who do not join the congregational prayer and order their homes to be burnt, '"
(Hadith No. Muslim 234)

"Narrated Anas: 'Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine. They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophet ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.'"
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 8:82:794)

"Prophet (Muhammad) said: 'Do not stone the adulteress who is pregnant until she has had her child.' After the birth she was put into a ditch up to her chest and the Prophet commanded them to stone her. Khalid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and he cursed her. The gentle Prophet prayed over her and she was buried."'

olabowale, babs787 , what do you think about he following:

"Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought, so the Prophet (Muham.mad) exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places. He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Musli.ms, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Isl.am. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina."
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 5:59:362)

"Omar reported from the Holy Prophet who said, 'No man shall be questioned for beating his wife.'"
(Al Hadis, Vol. 1, p. 215)

"Prophet said: 'When the slave runs away from his master, his prayer is not accepted; he is an infidel.'"
(Hadith No. M.uslim 32)

"Prophet said: 'Then go to the persons who do not join the congregational prayer and order their homes to be burnt, '"
(Hadith No. M.uslim 234)

"Narrated Anas: 'Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Is.lam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine. They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Is.lam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophet ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.'"
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 8:82:794)

"Prophet (Mu.hammad) said: 'Do not stone the adulteress who is pregnant until she has had her child.' After the birth she was put into a ditch up to her chest and the Prophet commanded them to stone her. Khalid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and he cursed her. The gentle Prophet prayed over her and she was buried."'

olabowale:

I just want to know how is it that these people saw God and in another place, it was declared no one ever saw God?

olabowale:

How large is this God that the earth could be standinga nd the heavens were not torn into shreds?

auwal87: If Abraham, Moses, and Jesus saw God, then indeed Prophet The Great Prophet also saw God,

auwal87:
Though I am not sure which God the Bible claims they saw, because I saw in Exodus 24 9-11 they even eat and drink with Him, are you sure He is God (HE EAT AND DRINK),

olabowale:

How is it that the Children of Israel asked that moses should be the one talking to God, because they are afraid that they will die, if god spoke to them, yet in the verse above, it seemed as if God spoke to them?

SysUser:

olabowale, babs787 , what do you think about he following:

HE IS LORD INDEED!

I was born into a Yoruba, Western Nigeria, Mos.lem polygamous family of 16. My dad at the head of this number had four wives with 11 children. He was an average Mos.lem, having gone to Mecca before I was born in 1966. Given our cultural background, my mom regularly consults what you may call witchdoctors, for one reason or the other. My family has a long lineage of practicing witchdoctors. At the last count I remember numbering the gods in the family to be about 21. Among these are, esu, osun, obatala, sango, ogun, ifa, ailala, ancestral spirits, and communal gods among others.

Although I was not born in Nigeria, I grew up there, as my dad returned to the country in 1970 after over 20 years in different parts of West Africa. The first memory I have of rituals or traditional worship was when my dad died in 1972. I later learnt that he had been warned not to return home at the time he did. He spent 3 agonizing months on his sick bed without being able to move while his flesh disintegrate before his eyes. In fact, family members insisted he would have lived if he had not been stubborn. He was asked to relinquish ownership of some of his landed properties before his (spiritual) attackers could let go of him. He refused.

Many years later I was stunned when my mom was relating the story of how he died to me. What I learnt in my i.slamic studies was that Jesus did not die on the cross. But she told me that, my dad asked her not to curse those who were apparently responsible for his death, saying: "after all, Jesus was killed in a similar fashion on the cross, despite the fact that he committed no wrong". I was shocked to hear that from my mum. For one she is not literate. And despite her visits to witchdoctors, she is a fervent mos.lem who would not have any of her children enter Ja'anam by becoming Christians. More important too was the circumstance of my father saying what he said.

In my part of Yorubaland, if it is established that some people were responsible for a death, the dead person's spirit could be conjured to avenge his own death. To do this, a person close to him must be around at the time of death. You hold the lifeless head of the person in your hand and say what you have to say. My mom did this immediately after her husband died. To her astonishment, the man opened his eyes and asked her to forget about them and look after her children. He fell back dead in her lap again. Not content with his advise, she repeated the process of asking the dead to take revenge. He woke up again and admonished her to leave everything in the hands of God and fell back dead. She persisted a third time. It was on this third occasion that my dad mentioned the death of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross.

We are from Ijebu, a part of Yorubaland respected for its witchcraft. It was here that I cut my teeth as a child. I was there from 1970 when we returned from Liberia till 1977 when I completed my primary education and was ready for high school in Lagos. All through my years at Ijebu, I remember that it was one ritual after the other, at least to counter the negative ones that were being directed at us from right left and center. There were relations, of course, who fell along the way, like my dad. And there are others who to this day have had their lives turned upside down that, they are not only useless to themselves but to the society as well. I was almost always in one battle or the other. My mom usually take me round witchdoctors, both in and outside our area.

It was in this state that I enrolled at an i.slamic school to learn more about God, so he could defend me instead of all the money and items of sacrifice we have been taking to different places including "churches". There are marks of incision (from covenants) still on my body that some of my friends find scary each time I discuss my past. Our Imams, in their different modes, tried their best for me, but all to no avail. I was advised to intensify personal prayers which I had been doing all along. It did not work. Two more initiations into the occult in late 1993 through early 1994 also failed to solve my crisis. I decided it was time to leave everything that is not purely i.slamic. I bought a new copy of 99 Names of Allah which I have been using since my high school days. I supplemented this with pamphlets of Suratul Yasin, its khutbah and 3 other ones I cannot remember now. Sometimes I could be on the praying mat from 11pm till it is time for Subhi [early morning] prayers.

But despite my renewed spiritual vigor, the problems I had been facing persisted. I contemplated suicide twice. You know, it was like, there was no hiding place. I remember one ritual of obatala (a Yoruba god) that I did. It was meant to appease those who were responsible for my problems. The witchdoctor called my mom and told her that I must have done something terribly wrong against some people. This was after 3 hours of fruitless efforts at appeasement! I also observed the same thing with one of my former i.slamic Studies teachers at the height of my problems. He said I should on my own intensify efforts at prayers that there is nothing anyone could do for me. This is usually the situation with Yoruba witchdoctors. Whenever they encounter someone more powerful than them, they either hands off you or continue to milk you dry, even though they know there is nothing they can do about you case.

In April 1994, I read a book on how to counter the effects of curses and spells, written by Bill Subritzky. It belonged to a Christian friend of mine. I read it. But, it is the same thing I have been criticizing that was there, "confess Jesus as Lord" and the other usuals, I thought to myself then. Mind you, I have been reading Ahmed Deedat's books since my high school days. It formed one of the reasons why I always kept a Bible at the time - so I could have an easy reference when I engage Christians in argument.

My April 1994 encounter with Subritzky's book was the turning point in my life. I confessed Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. With the Name of Jesus Christ on my lips, things started happening which I never thought could happen. It was a complete surprise. (The Bible says, whoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be saved).

Members of my family could hardly believe. I no longer need to patronize witchdoctors or their religious counterparts. Jesus Christ did it all. And without any ritual or sacrifice on my part!

The Catholic Bible says, blah,blah,blah

All these quotations you mentioned none was from the Holy The Great Book. The Hadits like the Bible (Luke 1- 3) are contemporary narrations of people, some of which are true fact others mere speculations. That is why we Great One have made a distinction between the sayings of the Hadit and the The Great Book. See what the The Great Book says about women:

he Hadits like the Bible (Luke 1- 3) are contemporary narrations of people

4Him:

if we respond now MC Usman the hypocritical terrorist will run off to threaten Seun

SysUser:

4Him, do you really mean he was the one who threatened Seun into submission,

SysUser:

those you have contibuted to killing or thought of killing, in the name of the demon "all.aH"

SysUser:

Mo.hammad was a peadophile and there is nothing you can do to change history or cover up the lies,

SysUser:


First of all the area of the bible that is in discussion is given below


Exo 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

Exo 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Exo 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.



Secondly, the "they" in this verses refere to : Moses, Abihu, Nadab, and Aaron


Thirdly the verses mentions what "they" did, the verses did not mention what God did.

Fourthly, the following are what "they" did:

1. "they" saw God

2. "they" ate

3. "they" drank


So i hope that answers your obvious sarcastic question.

Rom 12:14  Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

SysUser:


In case you don't know , A True Christian knows that Catholics are not Christians, Just like Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses are not Christians ,

A Christian is the name for a person with "Christ Like life"

As a matter of history find out , Funny that

MC Usman:

So Catholics and Jehovah Witness are not Christians . I no no Oh

First of all, I want to make a contributiong to the area of the bible that was once discussed about whether or not God eats,


Exo 24:9  Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

Exo 24:10  And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Exo 24:11  And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.



Secondly, the "they" in this verses refere to : Moses, Abihu, Nadab, and Aaron


Thirdly the verses mentions what "they" did, the verses did not mention what God did.

Fourthly, the following are what "they" did:

1. "they" saw God

2. "they" ate

3. "they" drank


So i hope that answers your obvious sarcastic question.