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Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by mazaje(m): 8:31am On Dec 31, 2012 |
davidylan: I think you are not completely getting what I am saying. . .I just gave an example of how the brain functions using the neural circuits, other parts of the brain like the occipital lobes also help in processing thoughts. . .For example when I look at the words and images on this page, two areas at the back of my brain are at work. These lobes, process the words and images on this page from my eyes and link that information with images stored in my memory which help in forming my thoughts. . .I was just giving him and example about how the brain processes thoughts based on the question he asked. My point to him is that all thoughts and reasoning come from the brain without which we can not even think or reason at all. . .As for diet I believe you know the simple point I was making. . .I said diet and nutritional state can also have a profound effect on the brain's chemistry and things like dreaming etc. . . |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 8:32am On Dec 31, 2012 |
Energy boys keep having fun. Your days are numbered. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 8:41am On Dec 31, 2012 |
mazaje: Your argument here is very valid. However it does not address the real question of this section... is brain chemistry the sole determinant of thought and reasoning? I see the brain as very similar to the computer... a computer processor is NOT the sole determinant of the output of a PC. No matter how sophisticated or fast the processor is, it is completely useless without the complicated software written by man. Such is the same with the human brain... ues it does process words and images but the brain is not solely responsible for processing THOUGHT and REASONING. A goat is able to process images... however it is not able to process complicated human thought. I'm not sure how applicable the issue of diet is. If you insist that we consider its effects then would you also be willing to admit that we can also generate thought in the lab by injecting a neurotransmitter into the brain? |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 9:21am On Dec 31, 2012 |
greatgenius: there is no-thing as accidents.. everything is as a result of choice..btw asthma is jsut a name given to a particular disease. being aware of its name or not is irrelevant. diseases are caused as a result of stress, wrong thinking, wrong beliefs, fear etc.. disease that manifests in the outer, physical body has arisen from within the conscious or subconscious mind.they originate from within They are the effects of your thoughts and feelings... you attract what you vibrate towards...there are no accidents in the universe.. Why oh why do you state this as fact? I wish I were loaded enough to have oprah do my laundry, but I don't go about telling people she actually does. What gives? All are welcome to their beliefs, but the way y'all present yours is puzzling. Combo that with a handle like yours and one thinks of one of those communes where kool aid could eventually get popular. Where are your facts? |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by MrAnony1(m): 11:03am On Dec 31, 2012 |
mazaje:I am afraid you are just pulling us back and forth and wasting our time.......we both know you haven't given us a clear answer. In order to proceed however, I'll take it that for you somehow, physical chemical reactions cause your non-physical thoughts. P/s: your statement that you can only think of physical things is not only irrelevant to the non-physical nature of thoughts, it is also false. I am sure you can think of abstracts e.g numbers Let's proceed: Question 3: How is this soul affixed to the body while you are alive? My answer: Since we have already established that the soul is a non-physical entity, asking how it is affixed to a physical body is irrelevant. It is like asking "how is software affixed to a disk?" If however your question really means how the soul came to be associated with the body, then my answer is that God made us and formed our bodies to 'house' our souls. In a similar way you can create information and put it 'in' a disk. My question: If your non-physical thoughts are a result of chemical reactions, are these chemical reactions random or can you tell me exactly who controls them i.e Can you choose to think of a particular thing or are these thoughts(chemical reactions) just randomly happening? You don't have to respond to the following, it is just added so that you can get an understanding of the sort of question I am asking: You have said that there is no non-physical aspect of you but that physical chemical reactions create your non-physical thoughts (as confusing as this sounds) |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by advocate666: 11:09am On Dec 31, 2012 |
davidylan: The bolded is you making things up. How do you know a goat is not capable of processing complicated thoughts? Have you spoken to or analysed a goat's thoughts before? Maybe the goat actually processes more complicated thoughts than humans but then decide, like king solomon, that all is vanity, and continue munching his leaves. 2 Likes |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by advocate666: 11:12am On Dec 31, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: I can't stop laughing. This is better than going to the theatre. 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 11:16am On Dec 31, 2012 |
advocate666: True. This Douglas Adams quote intrigues me "Humans think they are smarter than dolphins because we build cars and buildings and start wars etc., and all that dolphins do is swim in the water, eat fish and play around. Dolphins believe that they are smarter for exactly the same reasons." 2 Likes |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 11:41am On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated: But, but we are the centre of the universe. The cosmos was specially custom built for just us.... |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 11:51am On Dec 31, 2012 |
wiegraf: No!! It was specially custom "created" for us Martians. We rebelled against the tyrant and he sent a flood to destroy us and then fire to roast the whole planet and that's why it looks all dry and crusty today. Luckily some us were able to escape to this planet and blend in with his new "special" creations,humans. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 12:09pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
wiegraf: Are you shitting me? One funny part of the bible is when God created the Sun and Moon and stars to give light upon the earth. Under the best conditions, only 6,000 stars out of an approximate 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 [There are far more than this] are visible to the naked eye. I wonder who all the other stars are giving light to. Its stupid statements like this that will later make man believe such nonsense like the cosmos was specially custom built just for us. http://articles.cnn.com/2003-07-22/tech/stars.survey_1_sextillion-big-number-universe?_s=PM:TECH I hope you're just kidding though because it would be sad if you aren't |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by mazaje(m): 12:12pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: Numbers are represented by symbols. . . . Let's proceed: Question 3: How is this soul affixed to the body while you are alive? There is a way that soft ware is affixed to a disk and it is well explained here If however your question really means how the soul came to be associated with the body, then my answer is that God made us and formed our bodies to 'house' our souls. In a similar way you can create information and put it 'in' a disk. So what does our soul make our body do?. . . Is it our soul that make us reason, think, dream, display emotion etc? My question: If your non-physical thoughts are a result of chemical reactions, are these chemical reactions random or can you tell me exactly who controls them i.e Can you choose to think of a particular thing or are these thoughts(chemical reactions) just randomly happening? They are not random. The brain is made up of cells called neurons. These cells have nerve endings called synapses and dendrites. Nerve endings release chemical and electrical stimuli to communicate with each other. This brain communication forms neuro-pathways in the brain and is the basis for how the brain works. Lets take the temporal lobes for example. . .When I listen to rap music for example, my brain responds through the activity of these lobes. At the top of each temporal lobe is an area responsible for receiving information from my ears. The underside of each temporal lobe plays a crucial role in forming and retrieving memories, including those associated with rap and other types of music on general. They have a working process and are not random. . . |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 12:20pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Martian: Wow. Another cuckoo. Last I checked your treasured science claimed that mars may have been capable of supporting life at some point in time, but have you been there to see for yourself?! And when in atheist mode you'll probably claim you don't use blind faith, imagine... You're clearly deluded. Martians? Are they green? Evidence where? Talking snakes and fires allegedly told some ancient ignorant goatmen otherwise so you must be wrong. Either ways, god redesigned it when he made us his new favorites. Such folly |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 12:24pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated: Really? How could one be so wrong? You've read the bible, but have you READ the bible? Clearly not, else you'd know it was not wrong. Alas, the fo.ol hath said... |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 12:28pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
wiegraf: Alas the fo.ol hath said the cosmos was specially custom built for us. Take it in good faith that I know and understand the bible more than you |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by advocate666: 12:33pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
wiegraf: You may want to put sarcasm marks at the end of your post because it is lost on some folks. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 12:33pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated:Lmfao.. This thread's hilarious. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:04pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
musKeeto:I like the way the thread is going. Not like the usual Pull Him Down syndrome. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:08pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
davidylan:hello dave lets allow him to go wit non physical. Maybe it might be but lets wait and see. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 1:10pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated: *smh* Simply put, you're a spiritual midget, that's why you cant understand something so simple... It's really sad. I do, do feel sorry for folk without the holy sp.irit. You have open up and let him in, in all ways, f.ool. You have to form a special relationship with him I'll pray for you |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by mazaje(m): 1:17pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Those of you that are derailing the thread should pls keep off. . .Why wuna wan spoil the show na?. . .Make wuna no vex abeg. . . |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 1:19pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
wiegraf: The basis on which I claim to know and understand the bible more than you is that your default paradigm concerning the bible is that the bible is the perfect word of God and you must interpret all its inconsistencies to the bias you have been programmed with. i however research the bible with a paradigm of what it really is. The work of man [possibly junkies] and compiled by politicians. With this view in mind I see all its glorious inconsistencies for what they really are. The people that compiled the religious books however infused some sort of power into it... But enough about that. I agree I am a spiritual midget and a fo.ol [At least to you]. So please explain this simple thing that has been revealed to you by the holyspirit for the benefit of we foolish midgets. Why do only six thousand out of 70 sextiliion stars give light upon the earth when God created them all to enable us see at night? |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by wiegraf: 1:24pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
mazaje: Those of you that are derailing the thread should pls keep off. . .Why wuna wan spoil the show na?. . .Make wuna no vex abeg. . . Too slow. Get to the main dish. There's only so much I can take while waiting. Where's the blood? |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 1:25pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
mazaje: Those of you that are derailing the thread should pls keep off. . .Why wuna wan spoil the show na?. . .Make wuna no vex abeg. . . Abeg no vex. Wiegraf let's leave this thread. I created another thread https://www.nairaland.com/1147211/thread-wiegraf-affiliated-all-other |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated:Lololol. Dude, wiegraf is an atheist. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 1:28pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Reyginus: Lololol. Dude, wiegraf is an atheist. WTF? This dude was trolling me? and to think I created a thread. Smh 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated: I created another threadSomebody please stop them! They are going to draw blood. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:29pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated:I just hope you come out whole. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Affiliated(m): 1:35pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Reyginus: I just hope you come out whole. Divert to new thread and let Mazaje and Mr_Anony keep explaining the matter of whether thoughts are physical and can be constructed or injected in other beings. |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 1:41pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated:I will stick to both. :-P |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by Nobody: 3:11pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
mazaje: If the above is correct, then what is responsible for the diversity in thought processes if 10 people listened to the same rap music? |
Re: Questions For Anony About Souls by truthislight: 11:17pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
Affiliated: *strawman* |
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