akthedream: .Do u remember Liverpool humilating Real madrid(5-1 agg.) when Liverpool could not even make top 4?
..Do u remember Chelsea disgraced and dumped Barcelona out of the champions league with a man down(red card),2 goals down and a penalty awarded to Barcelona at Noeu camp?Chelsea did not even make top 4 last season.
..Do u remember Manchester city defeating Barcelona at Noeu camp..They were not in top 4 too.
..Do u remember Tottenham holding barcelona to a draw?they were not in top 4..
These are just a few to add to the above..Ever since the vice president of Laliga complained of match fixing in laliga,how many matches has Barcelona won?Should Platini resign today,it will be the end of Uefalona.

odumorun 1: Nigerian football is now a joke. Infact it has been so for almost 7 years now. the last time Nigeria put out a decent team, that actually played football was probably 2004.

I have been saying this for the last 5 years, mocked and ridiculed by many - THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS DESTROYING NIGERIAN FOOTBALL.

The style of footbal played in England, based on their culture and climate is alien to us. How many passes did you see that team out there string together. They get the ball to the half way line then hoof it forward Steven gerard style to no one in particular. Thdere was not one player out there who was comfortable in possession, not one who could go one on one with a defender, not one with what used to be an innate ability of the Nigerian player - the ability to control and use, creatively, the ball under pressure. Because all our players now play like Englishmen. All graft and no craft, plenty of pespiration but very little inspiration, a lot of sweat, very little style. No creativity, no invention, no imagination. A creative midfield led by Mikel Obi - a man with not a single assist to his name in almost 6 years at Chelsea. But then his name well known to the African consumers of the premier league (appropriately called by Valdan, poo wrapped in nice packaging) - so good for the advertising boys.

At a time when the possession play of Spain has conquered the world more completely than any other version of the game in history, we are stuck with the stone age variety superbly packaged from England the land of the world's best and most brilliant advertisers, but its worst footbalers.

To see the culture of our football, go to a slum in Lagos and see the level of skill on display. How many long ballls do you see under the bridge, how many kids who can't control a football do you see playing on the street. What we have now is the gentrification of fotball, with many aje butter boys with access to london now securing prominence in the football world over and above many street kids with greater talent.

Nigeria's golden age in football coincided with a time when a connection was made between our street footballers and the national team - in the mid 80's to the mid 90's.

We have now regressed to our colonial football in the 60's to the late 70's, when the national team was dominated by middle class boys from the missionary schools or white collar workers in major establishments klike stationary stores, IICC, Bendel Insurance etc.playing the predictable ponderous football instiled in us by our old English masters. Send the ball to the wing, cross it into the 18 yard box and hope for the best. Good enough to beat the smaller teams but when we ended up against the likes of the Ghana's, guinea's Egypts and Algeria's we got our asess spanked.

Like our newly recolonised econmoy of jobless growth. Our footbal has gone back to the dark ages. I've stopped looking. Sorry to sound chuaavnistic, but the number of fine peperless girls we now see in the stadium looking at Nigerian matches suggests to me that it now is all about owambe - fashion parade - I was there. When a game of the masses becomes a plaything o fthe elite then we need to worry

GOZILLA: no I won't.

Red-Light:
first u are stupidd beyond repair and ur stupiiddity amaze me

2nd .... how can anyone in his right senses says How many real star players show up in olympics soccer? this is the most ridiculous question ever...(lemme school u a little may be u will stack some intelligence into ur dumb brain.... first olympic is the 2nd best trophy in the world after the world cup) olympic is the tournament to presente ur best players and future pottential players..( great players like maradona, ronaldo, bebeto, ronaldinho , kanu, rivaldo, okocha, etoo etc all shined in the Olympic) those are players in the recent history... no gaynian player can even come close ... the best gaynian player in the recent history is essien that cannot even win best player in africa

by the way shey na we spoil ur life say make u no fit field ur old men to win under 17 for u ..ode

akthedream: .Do u remember Liverpool humilating Real madrid(5-1 agg.) when Liverpool could not even make top 4?
..Do u remember Chelsea disgraced and dumped Barcelona out of the champions league with a man down(red card),2 goals down and a penalty awarded to Barcelona at Noeu camp?Chelsea did not even make top 4 last season.
..Do u remember Manchester city defeating Barcelona at Noeu camp..They were not in top 4 too.
..Do u remember Tottenham holding barcelona to a draw?they were not in top 4..
These are just a few to add to the above..Ever since the vice president of Laliga complained of match fixing in laliga,how many matches has Barcelona won?Should Platini resign today,it will be the end of Uefalona.

Lero15: Arsenal, Tottenham and Swansea play gud futbol and they r all in England

thegoodjoehunt:

Apart from your list here, you can see that you can't pick an average team in the EPL embarrassing a La Liga top side. Let us be factual here. At the moment the possessive project of the La Liga and Bundesliga is producing results. I am not saying the direct football strategy can't bring results but the possessive pattern is far superior.

Can't you see the way Spain is dominating Europe and the World. Their players are making the EPL look better (Aguero, Silva, Mata, Carzola, Michu etc). The way Guardiola won 6 trophies in one year is unimaginable. So Platini was the one that made Barcelona beat Man Utd in two Champions League final. Let us be fair with our point.

baby-boy:


Look spain is dominating now because its their turn,

simple...... but its got nothing with the National team performing well

never_say_never:
The argument is not about which league is bigger, but which is better. EPL is bigger & more popular, no doubt, but bigger doesn't mean better, you know?

thegoodjoehunt:

Apart from your list here, you can see that you can't pick an average team in the EPL embarrassing a La Liga top side. Let us be factual here. At the moment the possessive project of the La Liga and Bundesliga is producing results. I am not saying the direct football strategy can't bring results but the possessive pattern is far superior.

Can't you see the way Spain is dominating Europe and the World. Their players(La Liga) are making the EPL look better (Aguero, Silva, Mata, Carzola, Michu etc). The way Guardiola won 6 trophies in one year is unimaginable. So Platini was the one that made Barcelona beat Man Utd in two Champions League final. Let us be fair with our point.

coogar:

then it begs the question - why is a shyte league with poor quality of football more popular than the tiki taka league with top quality football? are you saying football fans all over the world are dumb and foolish?

thegoodjoehunt:

The dominance of Spain and La Liga has everything to do with the pattern of play they have nurtured for years. I remember falling in love with the possessive passing game when Nigeria beat Spain at France '98. Even though they lost the match and crashed out of the group stage, I always new that approach will be unparalleled by any style.

It has taken years to nurture the art. Go and watch the game were Overmars scored against Liverpool. The dominance have not started but you can see the brilliance of the art. That is why Spain and La Liga is dominating now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C--gtzvDUk

Pique said one day all clubs will play like Barca. That is how the other teams will catch up. That is why Bayern is signing Guardiola.

thegoodjoehunt:

Barcelona or Spain are playing like Ajax of the 70’s, it was a formation Johan Cruyff introduce to Barcelona when he quit Ajax, now they are benefitting from what he introduced in the early 90s, Spain on the other have only adopted that policy, they went with the Madrid style of playing that’s relying on extremely skilful players which got Spain nowhere, the game you were talking at Anfield were they passed the ball for more than 3 minutes and scored, please tell me how many Dutch players were in that team? All am saying is that the Tiki Taka of spain would soon fade away. Just like Catanaccio, or the Samba or the aggressive and direct German football.

The dominance of Spain and La Liga has everything to do with the pattern of play they have nurtured for years. I remember falling in love with the possessive passing game when Nigeria beat Spain at France '98. Even though they lost the match and crashed out of the group stage, I always new that approach will be unparalleled by any style.

It has taken years to nurture the art. Go and watch the game were Overmars scored against Liverpool. The dominance have not started but you can see the brilliance of the art. That is why Spain and La Liga is dominating now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C--gtzvDUk

Pique said one day all clubs will play like Barca. That is how the other teams will catch up. That is why Bayern is signing Guardiola.

Afam4eva:
Who says the prmeiership is more popular than the La Liga? So says someone who lives in England.

coogar:

stop arguing like a football illiterate....,
the premier league rakes in more money from overseas than any other league in the world. la liga is trying to model their tv broadcast like the premier league - this is why some la liga matches now show in the afternoon so that asian fans can tune in. la liga is miles below the premier league in terms of global viewership unless you have been living under a rock. by the time el classico is on 9pm(UK time), the asians are fast asleep!!!!

coogar:

stop arguing like a football illiterate....,
the premier league rakes in more money from overseas than any other league in the world. la liga is trying to model their tv broadcast like the premier league - this is why some la liga matches now show in the afternoon so that asian fans can tune in. la liga is miles below the premier league in terms of global viewership unless you have been living under a rock. by the time el classico is on 9pm(UK time), the asians are fast asleep!!!!

thegoodjoehunt: So that pass to Overmars was done by Xavi. Genius doesn't hide.

@baby-boy. True football art doesn't fall. That is why Brazil continued dominating for years. What killed Brazil was them changing their style of play. Same thing happened to the Dutch team. You can see in the World Cup final when Spain played Netherland. Netherland had a defensive approach.

That is why Brazil is bringing back Scolari to coach them. They now know the best solution from them is the true passwork plus skillful Samba players. If you check clips of old, Brazil played close to what we have as Tiki Taka. Same with Argentina. Long Passwork goals have lasted for too long for you to think it will just end soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKvFVssa7DU

Afam4eva:
This is all about business. There's a difference between been more business savvy and having the best league.

baby-boy:

Your right and next years TV right is going to go from £3bn to over £5bn, because Barcelona and Madrid are allowed negotiate their own TV rights puts a strain on the rest of the league in spain and with the new tax law coming in Spain, you would see top stars fleeing the Spanish clubs

coogar:

so what makes a league quality across the board? please list the criteria and why you think la liga is better than the premier league?

coogar:

so what makes a league quality across the board? please list the criteria and why you think la liga is better than the premier league?



barcelona and real madrid have killed la liga. they should never have allowed them to independently broadcast their own games. it has created a wide gulf between those 2 giants and the rest of the clubs in the league. this is why those 2 teams continue to dominate and the rest are feeding on crumbs!

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you know la liga is a shyte league when blackpool(relegated team in england) made more money from tv than the 3rd best team in la liga. this is why i tell la liga fans that if barcelona/real madrid come to the premier league, they would not win the league as they would not have the advantage of selling their games on tv independently. less money means they wouldn't be able to afford the wages of messi, villa, sanchez, etc.

Afam4eva:
The quality of a league is determined on factors which range from how the players, clubs and coaches are doing when compared to those in other leagues. Judging from these criterion, it's obvious that the La Liga is miles ahead of the premiership. The best players are there. The best clubs are there. The best coaches are there. Did you see the FIFA 11 that was released recently? That paints the picture.

baby-boy:

Next season the team finishes last or 20th would rake in more £60m from TV companies thats before we add merchandise, Jersey sells, naming right sponsorship etc

coogar:


the marketing strategy in england is top drawer
the premier league has struck several deals with airlines and eurostar to show live games on board in airplanes. the deal is super-massive. relegated teams in the epl would make more money than the winners of champions league - now, that's wow!!!

baby-boy:

Marketing strategy hmmmmm may be, but its more like global firms see the premiership and a great product to advertise their products world wide.... Apart from El Classico no one cares at about any other match... but in the EPL its a different ball game

coogar:

because real madrid/barcelona have strangled the rest of the teams to death with their greed! how can they be making £140m and 6 other teams in the league are making a miserable £12m. it's so unfair. it then means barcelona/madrid get all the quality players in spain while the others are left with crap. if man city and man utd have all the best players in england, would any team stand a chance in europe? i don't think so.........

this is what the other countries would pay the premier league to watch live games from next season. money too much - as poor as africa is, they managed to cough £205m out of them. na wa!!!
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coogar:

then it begs the question - why is a shyte league with poor quality of football more popular than the tiki taka league with top quality football? are you saying football fans all over the world are dumb and foolish?



i cannot count the number of times arsenal mopped the floor with villareal or liverpool beating barcelona(even at nou camp). arsenal eliminated real madrid in 2006. arsenal and liverpool are average sides in the premier league - when was the last time they won the english league, huh?



their players are not making the league look better - van persie, suarez, etc are making the english league look better. no spaniard has won the golden boot in the premier league or even come close to winning the pfa player award. let's tread carefully when we hype the spanish players - they play intricate football that suits their league - that style of play would not necessarily work in england and this is why barcelona always find it difficult to beat chelsea......:

GOZILLA: make una no worry. This is spain's time to shine. We will see where they will be in the next six years. My broda, if spanish league is the best,why is their national team made up of more than half of barca and R.madrid players? If a league can only boast of two strong teams,what does that tell you about the league?

GOZILLA: make una no worry. This is spain's time to shine. We will see where they will be in the next six years. My broda, if spanish league is the best,why is their national team made up of more than half of barca and R.madrid players? If a league can only boast of two strong teams,what does that tell you about the league?

Witty07:
Where is drogba, kalou, gervinho from? Guess china

baby-boy:


Look spain is dominating now because its their turn,


simple......

The league plays little part on a national team

Afam4eva:
So, how come these teams in spain that have been left with crumbs keep beating their premiership counterparts. Dude, we're not talking about money here but about quality. The quality that's in Athletico madrid is comparable if not better than those in the top 4 clubs in England. A player from Athletico made the FIFA 11 but no premiership player made the list. What does that tell you?

never_say_never:
Tell me why the English national team has been unable to do well @ major since they won the world cup decades ago? If you claim no spaniard won or have come close to winning the golden boot, check Torres' first season with Liverpool. Valencia has been in the UCL final, so you can't blame them for not winning it, & check the number of foreigners that were in the squad of any English club that wins the UCL & compare it to when a Spanish team wins it. EPL's popular no doubt, business & sponsorship deals does a whole lot. Is it a coincedence that Chelsea won their 1st UCL when they added a bit of Spanish flair to their game (Mata & Torres), or why do you think Swansea is getting applauds for their style of play?