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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:56pm On Mar 23, 2013
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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:57pm On Mar 23, 2013
And the BIGOT mod lands!! grin
Easy for him to find where they are insulting d igbo!

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by EkoIle1: 8:58pm On Mar 23, 2013
django1:
I agree with you for most part, but one thing is, because he didn't involve himself directly in the going ons of the country doesn't make him a tribalist or bigot, at least he didn't come to this earth to serve other people.

lol @ he didn't involved himself directly. That bigoted and mean spirited old man involved himself in the most profound and pronounced way than any nigerian with his hateful book. He single handedly erased the gains we've made, he even poisoned the minds of many generations unborn who are destined to read that hate and bigotry book.

The man did too much damage because of hate and personal bitterness.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by MrGlobe(m): 9:01pm On Mar 23, 2013
django1:

The guy didn't mention awolowo, but ofcourse your ritual wouldn't be complete without adding awo's name!

Why do you people like comparing orange and apples, STOP comparing late prof. Chinua to Awo!! Instead compare him to soyinka, sefini
why are here? is it not because of Achebe's memoir where he called out awo for the murderer he is. We can't compare Soyinka and Achebe. Igbos love soyinka to death. its about the rogue awo. that's why your people don't want us to pay our last respects to a world hero.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by OneNaira6: 9:02pm On Mar 23, 2013
bolaino: I want to make something clear to everyone, this topic has nothing to do with tribalism, I love my igbo folks, I have so much love and respect for the igbo culture and tradition, and I didn't intend creating this topic to insult the igbo people, IGBO KWENU!!!, but the truth is always the truth, achebe was a tribalist and a bigot, and like Garri republic nairalanders will ask, how has the life and death of achebe affected the price of garri in the market?

and the only people in the entire world that thinks he's a bigot are YORUBA. says alot about you lot. now use your cerebral and explain how a man whose tribalistic to your people as una claim gave his daughter to one of your people. also explain why the same man is bestfriend to soyinka till the point they both see eachother as brother if he hates una that much.

we know your intention of this thread, it's the same intention most of your people have been doing for awhile now. lmfao @ the amount of strength some people are using to try and destroy a mans reputation while at the same time, no matter how loud they get, the man's reputation still stays intact. like many are mentioning the entire WORLD are in tears about his death. the entire AFRICA are in tears about his death. the entire NIGERIAN, excluding Yoruba and that one fulani monkey that rear his head once in a while making no sense, are in tears about his death. now tell us why anyone should care if some irrelevant populace see nothing good from the man. he's work speak for itself, noone in your entire region are commending the kind of respect chinua achebe is commending from the world right now and if not for una tribalism and desperate need to cry foul because the man spoke the truth about what una tribalistic demigod did then una wont be the childish adult trying desperately to ruin his reputation and failing woefully might i add. Try another route cause noone is buying what you people are selling.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by MrGlobe(m): 9:03pm On Mar 23, 2013
Damn, do awo even discriminated against ijebus? wth!! This is hoping eko ile fool is ijebu too.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:05pm On Mar 23, 2013
One_Naira:

and the only people in the entire world that thinks he's a bigot are YORUBA. says alot about you lot. now use your celebral and explain how a man whose tribalistic to your people as una claim gave his daughter to one of your people. also explain why the same man is bestfriend to soyinka till the point they both see eachother as brother if he hates una that much.

we know your intention of this thread, it's the same intention most of your people have been doing for awhile now. lmfao @ the amount of strength some people are using to try and destroy a mans reputation while at the same time, no matter how loud they get, the man's reputation still stays intact. like many are mentioning the entire WORLD are in tears about his death. the entire AFRICA are in tears about his death. the entir NIGERIAN, excluding Yoruba and that one fulani monkey that rear his head once in a while making no sense, are in tears about his death. now tell us why anyone should care if some irrelevant populace see nothinh good from the man. he's work speak for itself, noone in your entire region are commending the kind of respect chinua achebe is commending from the world right now and if not for una tribalism and desperate need to cry foul because the man spoke the truth about demigod did then una wont be the childis adult trying desperately to ruin his reputation and failing woefully might i add. Try another route cause noone i buying what you people are selling.

What could he do about whom his daughter wanted to marry? WHat could Chief CC Onoh do to stop his friend Ojuku from molesting Biancar?

He was friends with Soyinka but tried his best to denigrate the Nobel that Soyinka got

Ashebe was a bitter man his bitterness ended his life. Maybe the senile cripple would have lived a more peaceful life if he rid himself of tribalism

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by MrGlobe(m): 9:05pm On Mar 23, 2013
Eko Ile:

what deference does it make? Even spelled Achebe, its not like you people are ready to answer any question.

BTW, why are you crying about ashebe especially how you people spell and insult other peoples names. Don't start what you can not finish.
Do you mean Tinubu?

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by 9jaihail2: 9:06pm On Mar 23, 2013
django1:
This is downright silly, everything awolowo did, he did in Ibadan, not abk not lagos.
Try again!

Loless @ The bold, Are you suggesting we should call him ibadan hero hehehe? Don't let dayolodo catch you oo.

Anyway i am sorry didn't know he's heroism ends in Ibadan.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by htajz: 9:11pm On Mar 23, 2013
achebe is one positive news from or about nigeria ,we are hardly on the news for anything good. soyinka would have been the same but dam that guy introduced cultism into nigerian schools the atrocities these cultist commit is just too much.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by chic2pimp(m): 9:17pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

What could he do about whom his daughter wanted to marry? WHat could Chief CC Onoh do to stop his friend Ojuku from molesting Biancar?

Dayo haba nah grin grin grin..... which kain que que analogy be dis o?
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Eziachi: 9:20pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

Mandela stayed back in South Africa to effect the change he desired, He traded his freedom for it, He could have fled to London and be urging people to fight from there?

Can we now start comparing George Orwell or William Shakespear with Winston Churchill? Achebe is renowned as a prolific writer and a teacher, while Mandela is a professional politician.
If you can't tell the difference in the life parts of Achebe and Mandela, then your issues is not about the topic in discussion, its something you had to sort out yourself in a different platform and not here.
You cannot compare a salt to our red palm oil, even though they both compliment each other and together they make a delicious meal.
Achebe and Mandela are both African finest icons, though in different spheres of life, no wonder they both share personal friendship.
Something you bereft of.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:24pm On Mar 23, 2013
^^ Im sure it was your people who first brought Mandelas name into this thread

And it was your people who brought the names of other politicians like Awolowo to this thread

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by 9jaihail2: 9:25pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

You mean you still cant tell us what makes Awolowo a tribalist?

Its like asking what makes Ojuku a pedphille and you cant mention one single act other than "Everyone knows Ojuku is a peedo" Is that supposed to be evidence?

Have you considered adult education? It would go a long way

Dayolodo, the more i expect you to own up to the fact that your lord (awo) is a murderer and a tribalism inventor, the more you prove to the world that your brain cell is faulty and irredeemable , i will leave you so you continue living in denial while the strong heart ones who are man enough to own up continue progressing like Pa Achebe.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:27pm On Mar 23, 2013
Mr. Globe:

why are here? is it not because of Achebe's memoir where he called out awo for the murderer he is. We can't compare Soyinka and Achebe. Igbos love soyinka to death. its about the rogue awo. that's why your people don't want us to pay our last respects to a world hero.
It seems you don't know what I mean by compare, its not an abusing contest between chinua and wole, but wrt what the @op said I.e the benefit/impart any of the two men had on the people.

Let's face it, awolowo's face will always be on the 100 naira note, and its there for a reason.

The memoir did indeed reveal a lot about achebe as an unforgiving man, he tells the truth or not. Arguing with you about the correctness of achebes "impression" of awolowo is pointless, but what we know is that the man does not really like awolowo and "his yoruba" people. Sefini.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by kettykin: 9:29pm On Mar 23, 2013
[size=20pt]How Awolowo invented Tribalism and introduced Nepotism into Nigerian Politics[/size]

http://www.dawodu.net/igho.htm

That the NCNC later became to be perceived as an ‘Igbo’ party was not entirely the design of Igbo political elites, but rather the machinations of some powerful Yoruba nationalists who did not cherish the notion of an Igbo, Nnamdi Azikiwe, becoming the premier of Western Nigeria.

As the leader of the NCNC, Azikiwe was to be the first premier of Western Nigeria following the elections of 1951, with Obafemi Awolowo, a Yoruba, the leader of the AG, as the leader of the opposition in the House of Assembly. It should be recalled, with profound sadness, that prominent Yoruba traditional leaders and political elites exerted pressure on a number of Yorubas elected on the NCNC platform to "cross carpet" in the House and join the AG, in order to deny Azikiwe the premiership in favour of Awolowo. The concept of "carpet crossing" was thus introduced into Nigerian political discourse. Azikiwe had assumed the leadership of the NCNC following the death of Herbert Macaulay, a Yoruba. There would have been no basis for "carpet crossing" if Macaulay, and not Azikiwe, were elected premier of the West on the NCNC platform in 1951

As a result of this blatant injection of ethnicism into Nigerian politics, Azikiwe was compelled to "return home" to the East where he became the premier of the government. It is safe to postulate that, were it not for this event, the post 1951 development of Nigerian politics could have been spared much of the instability and crisis the country has experienced. This was a vital turning point in the political history of contemporary Nigeria. It helped to influence most Igbos to seek political shelter in the NCNC, just as the AG became privatized by most Yorubas, and the Hausa-Fulani political elites sought comfort in the NPC.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by OneNaira6: 9:29pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

What could he do about whom his daughter wanted to marry? WHat could Chief CC Onoh do to stop his friend Ojuku from molesting Biancar?

He was friends with Soyinka but tried his best to denigrate the Nobel that Soyinka got

Ashebe was a bitter man his bitterness ended his life. Maybe the senile cripple would have lived a more peaceful life if he rid himself of tribalism

see this 1diot. in Igbo culture, you need your father's permission before you marry someone. Achebe family is even more tight-knit on all igbo culture to the core. you didn't have to show your bloody famous stupid1ty once again. Even nollywood teaches you this sh1t.

ironically other than you and probably other bigots like yourself trying desperately to make unaself relevant, noone has ever accused the man of degrading, insulting or demeaning soyinka or his nobel prize. even soyinka we speak of never accused him of such and even the same man came out and told the world that was his brother that died

like i said, try another route, ain't noone buying what u people are selling. try again

btw: why don't you take your own advice. someone mentioned you are in your late 40s yet you still remain a brainless tribalistic buffoon that act childish in every of his post at this your damn age. by the time, you reach his age that is if God even grant you that wish,only he knows want you'll become. one thing for sure, your life won't amount to half of what achebe did in his early 20's talkless his entire life. and we all know who the world would deem everythinh you accuse him of, if the competition is between you and him.

lastly stop wasting my time and focus in trying to change the entire perspective every f2king body excluding his people have about awolowo and his well known tribalism. I have better things to with my time than arguing/talking to a 40 something year old man that refuse to grow the f2k up.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:29pm On Mar 23, 2013
9ja_i_hail2:

Dayolodo, the more i expect you to own up to the fact that your lord (awo) is a murderer and a tribalism inventor, the more you prove to the world that your brain cell is faulty and irredeemable , i will leave you so you continue living in denial while the strong heart ones who are man enough to own up continue progressing like Pa Achebe.

After 2 hours and like 10 posts you still cant provide evidence of Awolowos tribalism?

Are you not a disgrace to your people?

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:30pm On Mar 23, 2013
9ja_i_hail2:

Loless @ The bold, Are you suggesting we should call him ibadan hero hehehe? Don't let dayolodo catch you oo.

Anyway i am sorry didn't know he's heroism ends in Ibadan.
He's not from ibadan, so your earlier post is ridiculous, hope you understand?
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Eziachi: 9:31pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

What could he do about whom his daughter wanted to marry? WHat could Chief CC Onoh do to stop his friend Ojuku from molesting Biancar?

grin grin Is that what they call marriage between a man and a woman where you comes from-molestation? I am a product of that molestation club and I now knew that you are not one of us in that noble molestation club. Shame!

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:32pm On Mar 23, 2013
One_Naira:

see this 1diot. in Igbo culture, you need your father's permission before you marry someone. Achebe family is even more tight-knit on all igbo culture to the core. you didn't have to show your bloody famous stupid1ty once again. Even nollywood teaches you this sh1t.

So Chief Onoh didnt know about Ibo culture or he wasnt Ibo thats why Ojuku was able to molest his daughter without his consent?. Nollywood is your reference? never knew I was talking to a rettard Soon Catoon network and Sesame street would be your reference morron

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Bobandgreat: 9:33pm On Mar 23, 2013
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htajz: achebe is one positive news from or about nigeria ,we are hardly on the news for anything good. soyinka would have been the same but dam that guy introduced cultism into nigerian schools the atrocities these cultist commit is just too much.

I am not going to trade words with the bigots in this thread but Igbos have said it like always free from bigotry, deceit, politics or propaganda. We love Soyinka and we can not pull him down. Its common knowledge he formed the first ever cult in the country but we wont use that to judge him, he has shown time without number that he is a nationalist.

Yorubas should not insult the achievement of a man that wrote about a traitor that caused a whole race to develope phobia for heroism, develope slave mentality and specialise in deceit and bigotry. Its not a good trait. It can carry u to an extent for a while but others will definitely discover how u are. The man told the story of a man that could be likened to Rev. King and other doomsday pastors that had the ability to control a large number of people and can make these peoplecommit murder, sexual abominations or even suicides while believing they were promoting humanity. Achebe only tried to expose him to the outside world for what he was, not that we never knew he was like that in Nigeria. I think the Yorubas actually owe the man a favour for liberating them from this hypnotic spell cast on them by Awo that makes him their god.

They may not know it, but history has a way of exposing people. With time more evidence will come out to further douse the spell and make them more receptive to reasoning with other tribes that mean well for them. I dont blame anybody for defending this trickster called Awo, he did his homework and his spell is still potent. But, with time, the spell will loose its power. I am sure of that.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:34pm On Mar 23, 2013
Eziachi:
grin grin Is that what they call marriage between a man and a woman where you comes from-molestation? I am a product of that molestation club and I now knew that you are not one of us in that noble molestation club. Shame!

Molestation is when you sleep with an under aged girl that happens to be your own GodDAUGHTER even without her fathers consent

Ojuku was a cowardly animal in human clothing but thats another topic for another thread this is about Ashebe who died a bitter man

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by EkoIle1: 9:34pm On Mar 23, 2013
9ja_i_hail2:

Dayolodo, the more i expect you to own up to the fact that your lord (awo) is a murderer and a tribalism inventor, the more you prove to the world that your brain cell is faulty and irredeemable , i will leave you so you continue living in denial while the strong heart ones who are man enough to own up continue progressing like Pa Achebe.

sorry to burst your bubble, your bigoted and hateful pa ashebe can no longer progress or divide us with his bigoted and tribalistic hateful ways no more because he died. he's gone with his hate and meanness. Good raddance

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Eziachi: 9:34pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu: ^^ Im sure it was your people who first brought Mandelas name into this thread

And it was your people who brought the names of other politicians like Awolowo to this thread
Who is my people? And where did you get the idea that I had a people online?

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by dayokanu(m): 9:36pm On Mar 23, 2013
Eziachi:
Who is my people? And where did you get the idea that I had a people online?

Your people in this context means the Ibo people Biafrans

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Eziachi: 9:40pm On Mar 23, 2013
dayokanu:

Molestation is when you sleep with an under aged girl that happens to be your own GodDAUGHTER even without her fathers consent

Ojuku was a cowardly animal in human clothing but thats another topic for another thread this is about Ashebe who died a bitter man
In that case, you need to go back to your book and re-educate yourself, because Bianca Onoh was already many years into her crown as miss Nigeria before she got married to Ikemba, unless Nigeria was guilty too of crowing an underage person a beauty queen.

And where I comes from you don't call someone close to 30 years of age an underage girl. This what desperation causes, you start to reason like......

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by adconline(m): 9:40pm On Mar 23, 2013
Folks who have never graduated on top of their class; from nursery to university; have never written a published piece in any newspaper or journals in their lives; have never won anything in their lives; folks with failure running in the lineage and blood. Ask them to show us the CV of the most successful person in their family.

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