themodernman:


Remember when LF told Sansa: "we're all liars here & everyone of us is better than you" I think LF is d greatest liar in all of Westeros...

Lol probably, he is the master of deceit.. I just like the guy sha.

Any info on season 5

But here Sansa is taken against
her will(brutally) in way that’s likely (and
disgustingly) customary for arranged
marriages in this setting, it's the same for Dany, but to say Dany got over it, Sansa will doesnt make sense.

By consenting to marriage,Sansa wasn't raped. Most ppl are aggrieved because
(a) Sansa has been sweet and flower-like unlike most ladies on GoT
(b) Sansa was deflowered by Psycho Hobbit of all ppl when ppl like Joffrey(who art in hell),Tyrion or Littlefinger could have done it
(c)Sansa seems to have gone full circle back to Sansa of s01-03
(d)The Starks just keep loosing in GoT
(e)Most ppl just wanted to get even just a glimpse of Sansa's punny

Don't worry even if Sansa's plan of revenge fails,King Stannis may avenge Ned Stark and kill Psycho Hobbit and the Boltons

Gbola5:
It didnt really have to be a rape. The series has become fond of showing these rape scenes that only signify how women are these weak things that men can dominate. Really it didnt have to be a rape.

Firstly, it wasn't rape.

Secondly, that's how those times were. Men were savages and women were victims. So, the writers are just being historically accurate.

Thirdly, it wasn't rape.

blublahd:

a trend i thought i was the only one who observed it
even Dany....the central protagonist of the series wasnt spared.
Kind of condescends her queen status to me.
Doggy for that matter.
I am yet to hear from the feminists tho

It's a movie about ancient times... what do you expect? When Hollywood made a movie of slavery, why didn't you say they were being racists? The writers have done nothing wrong. They were being historically accurate. You won't be hearing from the feminists because they understand this.

hertz9te:
the sex or rape was really emotional,cos sansa was crying.....haba that girl infuriates me with all that her soft acts(team arya)
i was expecting theon to do something,like stick a knife in ramsay....that scene was a bit fast paced,,,,n with the camera focusing on theons emotions....i hoped for a sec,,,tha he will snap...........i think i will be highly dissappointed

So because sansa was crying you tag it as rape?

Have you even considered that sansa is a virgin and no man has penetrated her before. Who knows if ramsay has a big dickk..

She wasnt raped abeg. Go and check out the definition of rape.

kay9:


But bro, if it was not "love making", then what was it?

Having Sex.

themodernman:


Granma Tyrell always looking helpless when whipped but I trust she's up to something too...episode 7 waiting!

She might confess to killing geoffrey and rub it in cerci's face. That would be epic.

Gbola5:


Dude it was a rape.

It wasn't. By custom, man must bed wife night of marriage. She knew this and still agreed to marry him so by extension agreed to have sex with him later on.

It was not rape.

Jamie and cerci sex scene beside geoffrey's corpse is a better rape debate than this.

hertz9te:
the sex or rape was really emotional,cos sansa was crying.....haba that girl infuriates me with all that her soft acts(team arya)
i was expecting theon to do something,like stick a knife in ramsay....that scene was a bit fast paced,,,,n with the camera focusing on theons emotions....i hoped for a sec,,,tha he will snap...........i think i will be highly dissappointed

Couldn't have said it better bro...team arya

Gbola5:
But here Sansa is taken against
her will(brutally) in way that’s likely (and
disgustingly) customary for arranged
marriages in this setting, it's the same for Dany, but to say Dany got over it, Sansa will doesnt make sense.

Are you sure you arent watching game of thrones (naija version)

Taken against her will my foot. Sansa walked with her two feet to marry Ramsay..Walked with him to the bedroom and when she was told to bend down(doggy style) she complied. So where is the rape

kay9:


But bro, if it was not "love making", then what was it?

Rough sex. They are not in love so it can't be called "LOVE making"

gj22:


It wasn't. By custom, man must bed wife night of marriage. She knew this and still agreed to marry him so by extension agreed to have sex with him later on.

It was not rape.

Jamie and cerci sex scene beside geoffrey's corpse is a better rape debate than this.

you got it..People have forgotten that daenerys targarayn own was worst. because it is sansa, everybody is shouting rape.

Gbola5:
But here Sansa is taken against
her will(brutally) in way that’s likely (and
disgustingly) customary for arranged
marriages in this setting, it's the same for Dany, but to say Dany got over it, Sansa will doesnt make sense.

That's all it was, rough sex. She knew this was on the table when she signed up. She was a virgin and Ramsey didn't go easy on her.

gj22:


It's a movie about ancient times... what do you expect? When Hollywood made a movie of slavery, why didn't you say they were being racists?

that is incomparable to this. If the raping of sansa makes a more intriguing plot, am unfazed. I think there wont be any outcry if it had followed the books, cause speculation is,such occurence were just for entertainment rather than delivering a score point.

The writers have done nothing wrong. They were being historically accurate. You won't be hearing from the feminists because they understand this.

you think? I suggest you put your ears closer to the ground.

The irony of all this sansa issh is that the people shouting and crying that sansa was raped, or they wont watch GOT again (oyinbo especially) will be the first to ask when the next episode is coming out or will be the first to go and watch it.

themodernman:


You didn't notice Myrcella has grown to look so beautiful.

I was too busy getting frustrated by the poor acting.

Honestly, the dornish scenes have been below par.. bad actors, bad dialogue and bad shooting. Apart from oberyn's wife and the prince of Dorne, the other actors are shyte.

The sand snakes were the worst. They are like kindergarten actors. And the fight scene was horrible. Even the guy tried tho.

blublahd:

that is incomparable to this. If the raping of sansa makes a more intriguing plot, am unfazed. I think there wont be any outcry if it had followed the books, cause speculation is,such occurence were just for entertainment rather than delivering a score point.

you think? I suggest you put your ears closer to the ground.

Dude, you are making it sound as if the message of the scene was "Women are nothing to mean and should be treated like shyte". The movie is about ancient times, these things happened in ancient times.

What do you think would happen when a savage being (ramsey) wants to have sex? He is an animal and that is what they showed, nothing more. Really, if you are reading more to the scene then you should check yourself.

gj22:


Dude, you are making it sound as if the message of the scene was "Women are nothing to mean and should be treated like shyte". The movie is about ancient times, these things happened in ancient times.

What do you think would happen when a savage being (ramsey) wants to have sex? He is an animal and that is what they showed, nothing more. Really, if you are reading more to the scene then you should check yourself.

The funny thing about all this is that we werent shown more than ramsay tearing sansa's clothes and him telling her to bend down. Nothing more. I didnt see anything savage in that scene. Guys in today's world do far more than what was shown.

gj22:


Dude, you are making it sound as if the message of the scene was "Women are nothing to mean and should be treated like shyte". The movie is about ancient times, these things happened in ancient times.

That is the vibe most people are getting from not just that scene but its repeated occurence and particularly it deviates from the books. So the question is, whats with such scenes? But on second thought, perhaps its an attempt to rewrite the books to T.v audience. The butterfly effect as GRRM called it.

What do you think would happen when a savage being (ramsey) wants to have sex? He is an animal and that is what they showed, nothing more.

Totally understandable.

Really, if you are reading more to the scene then you should check yourself.

not the scene, but the repetition of such trend.
Then again, i may just have had a soft spot for Sweet Sansa.

kay9:


But bro, if it was not "love making", then what was it?

Let us call it a heartless taking. Wicked poking, beating that asś up really nasty. Deserve to go to hell banging, even-the-devil-will-be-shocked-sèx but we can't call it rape because of her consent

Marital rape is still rape. Even though they did at at the time(and its not ancient, its medieval times). But its still considered rape whether they're married or not. But Dany started to develop from there, it became part of her development story in the show. Sansa's was unneccessary, it doesnt mean that she will also develop from there also. She's always the victim, and part of her character growth was to stop being the victim and take charge. She had gone through pain enough, she didnt need this as another booster. They were already showing signs of this in s4, when she walks down the stairs in the Eyrie, when she was looking confident, and now she becomes a victim again. Ofcourse she will grow from here, as most of you use to defend the scene, but rape shouldnt be the catalyst, no more than the death of her family.

How apt Elkrypto. In today's world where the feminine-centric view is the default view these kinds of double standards will continue to apply.

gj22:


She might confess to killing geoffrey and rub it in cerci's face. That would be epic.

That will only happen when she has nothing more to lose.

Dragonking:
[size=20pt]Whats all this noise about Ramsay raping Sansa? Ramsay didnt rape sansa abeg.

For heavens sake they are both married and he made love to her. They didnt even show him raping her, the only thing that was done was Ramsay tearing her clothes. We have seen worst scenes than this.[/size]

Don't mind them...ppl shouting rape are just being senselessly emotional...once a woman is your wife, you can legally have her as many times you want without proboem with the court whether she likes it or not.

Gbola5:
Marital rape is still rape. Even though they did at at the time(and its not ancient, its medieval times). But its still considered rape whether they're married or not. But Dany started to develop from there, it became part of her development story in the show. Sansa's was unneccessary, it doesnt mean that she will also develop from there also. She's always the victim, and part of her character growth was to stop being the victim...bla bla bla

Sorry I had to shorten your long grammar up there. Sansa was raped, end of story. Folks can either live with it, or quit watching. What plot point did bursting Oberyn like a tomato serve? What character development did Theon achieve by getting castrated? Heaven didn't fall when any of those happened, so whats all the hullabaloo about? Please have a chill pill, let's just watch the show for what it is: an adaptation trying to approximate reality.

themodernman:


Don't mind them...ppl shouting rape are just being senselessly emotional...once a woman is your wife, you can legally have her as many times you want without proboem with the court whether she likes it or not.

...Actually, you can't. Whether your wife or not, any day she says "no", you'd be well-adviced to steer clear. Ask any lawyer.

Sansa's case is a sore pickle because she willingly walked into it and stayed there to take it, even though we the audience know that she would rather not. I still think its rape, but hey that's just my opinion. Its all these folks screaming blue murder that I'm just pissed at - why didn't they raise as much hew-haw when Theon was almost sodomized and then castrated like a pig? People should just relax and enjoy the show.

themodernman:


Don't mind them...ppl shouting rape are just being senselessly emotional...once a woman is your wife, you can legally have her as many times you want without proboem with the court whether she likes it or not.

You better prepare for a lengthy prison sentence if you seriously hold this view and act on it. Consent is a very serious matter in or out of marriage.

As far as the show though, lets pay those crying on twitter and on newspaper sites no mind.

ApexTitan:


You better prepare for a lengthy prison sentence if you seriously hold this view and act on it. Consent is a very serious matter in or out of marriage.

As far as the show though, lets pay those crying on twitter and on newspaper sites no mind.

You're not well informed brother...I on the other hand have been tutored as a medical student under the foremost renowned forensic expert during med school...who confirmed: THERE IS NO RAPE IN MARRIAGE....of course you can hold on to your sentimental view to gather more likes & shares here but that won't change the bitter truth...what is not acceptable is you assaulting & battering her b4 you do it...but anything sexual is legal cos there's nothing like consent in marital sex...if she's fed she should file for divorce shikena. The same way a man cannot be raped legally as it's still restricted to females for now...so even if a girl drugs & rapes you, you do not have a case! Man up & stop being sentimental.

Dragonking:


So because sansa was crying you tag it as rape?

Have you even considered that sansa is a virgin and no man has penetrated her before. Who knows if ramsay has a big dickk..

She wasnt raped abeg. Go and check out the definition of rape.

.......what is rape?......havin of sex from someone with their mutual consent.......understand this definition and tell me is not rape again