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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:17pm On May 25, 2013
KingPradas:

this your lie of "80million" is a combust lie.

Can you find over 80 million black in arabs countries.

No you can't find a thriving population of black descendants of the Arab slave trade in middle-east countries because the Arabs castrated the boys and used the women as sex slaves. If the women got pregnant their offspring's were killed off.
Also most black slaves were used as disposable soldiers or worked in atrocious hell-like conditions such as in mines.
Most died of starvation, disease or were simply put to death at the whims of their slave owners.

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:19pm On May 25, 2013
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/saudi-offers-castrated-african-slave-for-sale-on-facebook/


This is what Arabs consider africans as good for only

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:22pm On May 25, 2013
Saudi Offers “Castrated African Slave” for Sale on Facebook

Who says that the Muslim world isn’t modern? Sure they could hold old-fashioned auctions for African slaves. But instead they’re leveraging the power of social media for their slave auctions.



Peace be upon you …

I have a [male] slave I bought from an African country and arranged for his visa and stay till I got him to Saudi [Arabia]

His description:

1 – Black skin. Tall 172 sm. Weight 60 kilos.
2 – Castrated (excellent for working with a family) you can check him with a doctor our yourself if you have experience in the matter.
3 – [His] health is quite undamaged and has no imperfections.
4 – Age 26 years.
5 – Religion muslim and [he is] obedient and will not disobey you except in what displeases God. Please, the matter is very serious and is not a joke.

No it’s not a joke. Saudi Arabia had an estimated 300,000 slaves in 1960. Slavery was then officially abolished, but unofficially continues to exist.

Saudis who travel outside their country sometimes bring their slaves with them, leading to run-ins with the law. One of the ugliest such incidents was the murder of a slave by a Saudi prince in London.

The court had heard that the murder of Abdulaziz was the final act in a “deeply abusive” master-servant relationship in which the prince carried out frequent attacks on his aide “for his own personal gratification”.

Jurors were told that by the early hours of 15 February, Abdulaziz was so worn down and injured – having suffered a “cauliflower” ear and swollen eye from previous assaults – that he let Saud kill him without a fight.



Saud tried to cover up the true nature of his relationship with his servant, claiming they were “friends and equals”, but a porter at the Marylebone hotel where they had stayed said Abdulaziz was treated “like a slave”.

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:25pm On May 25, 2013
Some random facts concerning the East African slave trade across the Indian Ocean:

-The East African slave trade was much more ancient than the Western Atlantic slave trade, preceding it in time by over a thousand years.

-The major players in the slave trade across the Indian Ocean were the Swahili, people of mixed Arab-Bantu cultural origin, and the Arabs, especially those from Oman and Saudi Arabia.

-The initial people who were enslaved were mostly black males from various animist tribes within the interior of East Africa. These were known as Zanj.

-The Zanj were forced to dig for salt in southern Iraq, before they revolted against Baghdad in the late ninth century. Afterwards, the Abbasid caliphate placed a moratorium on the importation of black male slaves from East Africa.

-From the ninth century onwards, black female slaves, employed in household drudgery and sometimes as sex slaves in Arab harems, as well as young boys, who were handed over to Ethiopian Orthodox priests to be castrated as eunuchs, became the chief export from the East African coast.

-As opposed to the Western Atlantic slave trade, the Indian Ocean slave trade was about the capture and sale of young women and castrated boys to Arab harems.

-Kilwa, Pemba, Zanzibar, and Oman became the major centres of the East African slave trade.

-More slaves died in the shipment across the Indian Ocean, than across the Atlantic.

-The slaves who were captured in the interior of sub-Saharan Africa were marched to the coast in chains by Swahili middlemen armed with swords and muskets; they were then sold to the Omani Arabs of Zanzibar, who eventually absorbed all of the East African coast into their empire.

-Most of the slaves captured in East Africa were shipped to Oman from Zanzibar and dispersed all across the Arab world.

-East African slaves, being mostly women and children, were employed as sex objects in harems and in tasks involving household drudgery, as opposed to those slaves who were sold to Europeans, who were employed in large-scale agricultural/industrial capitalist operations.

-Belief in Islam, sometimes the simple recitation of the Islamic shahadah itself ("La illaha illallah, mahammadur rasul allah..." etc), was the only prerequisite for automatic manumission.

-Some of the most well-known Swahili of the nineteenth century were slave traders, such as the personal friend of Dr. David Livingstone, Abdul-Hamid ibn Muhammed or Tippu Tip.

-Slavery in East Africa was abolished in the late nineteenth century when the British sent a number of warships to the Zanzibari coast.

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 2:27pm On May 25, 2013
^^^^gbam.

nice to meet you gen.bn [size=1pt]aka joshua blahi(?)[/size] grin
btw don't be surprised if he still denies it.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by tpia5: 2:29pm On May 25, 2013
[he is] obedient and will not disobey you except in what displeases God.

true that, blacks generally find fulfilment in serving other races. This is plain fact.

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by tpia5: 2:33pm On May 25, 2013
in the pictures on page 5, he still looks troubled in the second one though.

in the terrorist one, he looks tormented.

are they sure these people are nigerian?
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:35pm On May 25, 2013
It’s important to remember that the bulk of the slave trade went in the opposite direction — from Africa to the Arabian peninsula. The Arabs have been enslaving Africans since prehistoric times, and the slave trade in Saudi Arabia wasn’t abolished until the 1960s. An underground traffic in slaves continues to this day, particularly in Mauritania and other countries in western and northern Africa.

The idea that Muslims, particularly Arabs, are somehow friends and comrades in suffering with Africans is the Big Lie of the 21st century. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is that Muslims have been slaughtering and enslaving black Africans for more than a millennium.

The truth is that black African Muslims have the lowest status of any group in Islam, and are held in special contempt by Arabs.

See link on slavery : http://wysinger.homestead.com/mapofafricadiaspora3.html

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 2:36pm On May 25, 2013
Gen.ButtNaked:
Saudi Offers “Castrated African Slave” for Sale on Facebook

Who says that the Muslim world isn’t modern? Sure they could hold old-fashioned auctions for African slaves. But instead they’re leveraging the power of social media for their slave auctions.



Peace be upon you …

I have a [male] slave I bought from an African country and arranged for his visa and stay till I got him to Saudi [Arabia]

His description:

1 – Black skin. Tall 172 sm. Weight 60 kilos.
2 – Castrated (excellent for working with a family) you can check him with a doctor our yourself if you have experience in the matter.
3 – [His] health is quite undamaged and has no imperfections.
4 – Age 26 years.
5 – Religion muslim and [he is] obedient and will not disobey you except in what displeases God. Please, the matter is very serious and is not a joke.

damn...


No it’s not a joke. Saudi Arabia had an estimated 300,000 slaves in 1960. Slavery was then officially abolished, but unofficially continues to exist.

Saudis who travel outside their country sometimes bring their slaves with them, leading to run-ins with the law. One of the ugliest such incidents was the murder of a slave by a Saudi prince in London.

The court had heard that the murder of Abdulaziz was the final act in a “deeply abusive” master-servant relationship in which the prince carried out frequent attacks on his aide “for his own personal gratification”.

Jurors were told that by the early hours of 15 February, Abdulaziz was so worn down and injured – having suffered a “cauliflower” ear and swollen eye from previous assaults – that he let Saud kill him without a fight.



Saud tried to cover up the true nature of his relationship with his servant, claiming they were “friends and equals”, but a porter at the Marylebone hotel where they had stayed said Abdulaziz was treated “like a slave”.

smh.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:36pm On May 25, 2013
more on Arab Slavery ....

Far more Africans were swallowed up in the fourteen hundred years of Islamic slave trading than in the three centuries of European practice. An estimated 17 to 20 million Africans were exported from their native land to the Muslim world, but this isn't the whole story. With a transport survival rate of less than 1 in 3, Dr. John Alembellah Azumah estimates that perhaps 50 to 80 million more died in route.

Here is a quote from an observer in Zanzibar that sheds light on the harsh conditions of Islamic slavery:

"As they filed past, we noticed many chained together by the neck... The women, who were as numerous as the men, carried babies on their backs in addition to a tusk of ivory or other burden on their heads... It is difficult to adequately describe the filthy state of their bodies; in many instances not only scarred by [the whip], but feet and shoulders were a mass of open sores... half-starved ill-treated creatures who, weary and friendless must have longed for death."

The text (quoted from Dr. Azumah's The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa) goes on to describe the fate of those who became too ill or too weak to continue the journey - as related by a Muslim "herdsman":

"Spear them at once! For, if we did not, others would pretend they are ill in order to avoid carrying their loads. No! We never leave them alive on the road; they all know this custom."

When asked who carries the ivory when a mother gets too tired to carry both her baby and the ivory, the herdsman replied, "She does! We cannot leave valuable ivory on the road. We spear the child and make her burden lighter."

After Muhammad's companions overthrew the Christians in Egypt shortly after his death, they began demanding slaves from the Nubians to the south. For over 600 years, the black African kingdom was forced to send a tribute of slaves to Cairo on a regular basis.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:37pm On May 25, 2013
According to the Quran itself, blackness is a product of being too close to where the sun sets and rises (Muhammad thought that the earth flat and the Africans lived along the edge). Islamic scholar Ibn Qutaybah described black people as "ugly and misshapen because they live in a hot country where the heat overcooks them in the womb and curls their hair."

Again quoting from The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa, Dr. Azumah provides several examples of Islam's early attitude toward blackness:

The hadith in which an Ethiopian woman laments her racial inferiority to Muhammad, who consoles her by saying, "In Paradise, the whiteness of the Ethiopian will be seen over the stretch of a thousand years."


The Muslim Arab and Persian literature which depicts blacks as "stupid, untruthful, vicious, sexually unbridled, ugly and distorted, excessively merry and easily affected by music and drink."


Nasir al-Din Tusi, the famous Muslim scholar said of blacks: "The ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro."


Ibn Khaldun, an early Muslim thinker, writes that blacks are "only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings." He also insisted that "the only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage." (In truth, over 500,000 Africans in Basra overthrew their Arab-Islamic masters in the largest slave uprising in history in what is known as the Zanj Rebellion).


Classical Islamic law allows a light-skinned Muslim man to marry a black woman, but a black Muslim man is restricted from marrying a light-skinned woman. As the literature of the time put it, "only a LovePeddler prefers blacks; the good woman will welcome death rather than being touched by a black man."


Another hadith quotes Muhammad: "Do not bring black into your pedigree."

The famous Muslim historian, al-Mas'udi describes the African slaves as, "Kinky hair, thin eyebrows, broad noses, thick lips, sharp teeth, malodorous skin, dark pupils, clefty hands and feet, elongated joysticks and excessive merriment." He goes on to add that the "the dark complexion person (al-aswad) is overwhelmed by merriment due to the imperfection (fasad) of his brain; therefore, his intellect is weak." (Akbar Muhammad, Slaves and Slavery in Muslim Africa, vol. I, p 68)

In fact, the original Arabic word for slave, "Abd," evolved into the the colloquial word for a black person after the establishment of Islam.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 2:37pm On May 25, 2013
Gen.ButtNaked:
The idea that Muslims, particularly Arabs, are somehow friends and comrades in suffering with Africans is the Big Lie of the 21st century. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is that Muslims have been slaughtering and enslaving black Africans for more than a millennium.

The truth is that black African Muslims have the lowest status of any group in Islam, and are held in special contempt by Arabs.

See link on slavery : http://wysinger.homestead.com/mapofafricadiaspora3.html


^^^^^^
you are on a roll.lol

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:38pm On May 25, 2013
The Qur'an encourages sex with slaves in several places, which explains the 2-1 ratio of female to male slaves taken from Africa by Muhammad's descendants. The Muslims were more interested in the sexual servitude of black women than the Europeans, who exported Africans for labor.

As one might have guessed, the life of slaves in Muslim countries was quick and painful. There is a reason why one doesn't find too many native blacks in Saudi Arabia or Iraq today. Enslaved men could not bear children because they were often castrated, and the unfortunate Africans as a group did not ultimately survive the brutal treatment.

Here's a description of what Turkish Muslims did to their male "Negro" children in the relatively civilized late-1800's:

Castrators of Negroes buy them and then sell them, after having mutilated them, on the Turkish market, that is if the victim does not succumb to the operation or to its consequences [90% do not survive the castration]. As to the methods used, they have remained as primitive as in the past. The child is spread out on the floor or a table, the sexual parts are tied at their base by a rope, and on these parts they operate with one vigorous movement of a razor, the wound is then dressed with some small shot [i.e., lead rifle shot?], with some astringent substances, boiling oil, or some warm honey. Once the bleeding stops, they fix a kind of lead nail two inches long, slightly curved and with a thickened end, in the urethra, until it is completely healed... Castrators sometimes use an even more barbaric method. Immediately after the removal of organs, they introduce into the urethra rather than a nail, a piece of reed protruding two inches, so that urinary functions are performed without interruption. Then a plaster is applied on the wound, and the patient is buried up to his neck in the warm and dry sand, while the assistants trample the ground around him. This maneuver reduces the mobility of the wounded one completely... after a week he is unearthed.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:40pm On May 25, 2013
So ingrained is slavery in Islam that the religion's holiest city, Mecca (site of the Haj pilgrimage), was a slave trading capital. Up until the 20th century, Mecca served as the gateway to the Muslim world for slaves brought out of Africa. Azumah notes:

"It became a custom for pilgrims to take slaves for sale in Mecca or buy one or two slaves while on Haj as souvenirs to be kept, sold or given as gifts."

The last slaves were openly traded in Islam's holiest city in 1960!
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:41pm On May 25, 2013
But, perhaps the most conspicuous example of overt racism in Islam is the genocide in present-day Sudan by the Arab-Islamic government and the refusal of Muslim organizations around the world to condemn it. Over two million black Africans have died from Arab aggression in the Christian south. And 200,000 more were killed by Arab militias over the last four years in Darfur. The Arabs are known for rampaging through villages and hacking black Africans to death in the name of Jihad while screaming things like, "Kill the slaves!"

Although the Darfurians are mostly Muslim as well, there is little to no attention placed on their plight by international Muslim organizations. Despite being repeatedly challenged on the issue, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), for example, has never bothered to condemn the Islamic Republic of Sudan for the Arab massacre of Africans.

Compare this to the outrage, sympathy and money that is poured out on the Palestinian people... who are Arab. Yet, the number of Palestinian civilians killed in their relentless conflict with Israel over the last 40 years is less than the average number of Africans killed by Islam each month.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by LagosShia: 2:41pm On May 25, 2013
LagosShia: HOLY QURAN 5:32:
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.

(SHOW ME ONE VERSE FROM THE ENTIRE BIBLE LIKE THE ABOVE!)


HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 7:55:
(O mankind!) Call upon your Lord humbly and in secret. Lo! He loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 8:61:
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."

HOLY QURAN 5:2:
" , and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment."

HOLY QURAN 41:34:
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"

HOLY QURAN 4:135:
"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."

HOLY QURAN 16:90
"God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed."

HOLY QURAN 16:126:
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 21:107:
"And we have not sent you but as a mercy for the world"
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by LagosShia: 2:42pm On May 25, 2013
LagosShia: [size=18pt]Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"? [/size]
By Huda, About.com Guide

Question: Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"?
Answer: The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing "jihadism," or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.


"Slay Them" - If They Attack You First
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter, But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful, If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


"Fight the Pagans" - If They Break Treaties
A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them, (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them, for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."


Conclusion
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-8 ) :
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm

Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by GenButtNaked: 2:44pm On May 25, 2013
Kano City was founded as a Slave trading post to serve the trans-Saharan caravans.

The Fulani/Hausa slavers raided indeginious people for stock and offloaded them to the Arabs for sh1ty arab trinkets.

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Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 25, 2013
Gen.ButtNaked:
Kano City was founded as a Slave trading post to serve the trans-Saharan caravans.

The Fulani/Hausa slavers raided indeginious people for stock and offloaded them to the Arabs for sh1ty arab trinkets.

@red smh.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by jude33084(m): 3:11pm On May 25, 2013
mondi_cheeks: Seems like pple are now joining certain religious groups just to justify their delinquent behaviour undecided

They will come on Nairaland to say It is a religion of peace undecided
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Rexyl(m): 5:31pm On May 25, 2013
From the knowledge of saving grace of God from Sunday School lessons and needful Christian education to horrors of terrorism. What a fall from glory to shame and to eternal loss of salvation, salvation of soul brought to him by the Lord Jesus, and in which he was taught at the early stage of life. Worldliness and the lust for sinful acts denied him of proper upbringing in the way of God. For man not to retain God in his knowledge, God himself will give him over to reprobate mind to do unworthy things. Acts 1:28
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 6:53pm On May 25, 2013
LagosShia: HOLY QURAN 5:32:
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.

(SHOW ME ONE VERSE FROM THE ENTIRE BIBLE LIKE THE ABOVE!)

I hate it when you folks misquote your own Koran to deceive onlookers
Before throwing out a challenge,why don't you start from a place of sincerity by quoting a verse that exists
The above distortion and the verse about no compulsoon in religion are perhaps the most quoted verses by Muslim apologists in America,sadly the listeners are too lazy to go check it out for themselves in it's entirety.
That verse above does not exist in any Koran rather it is a distorted paraphrase meant for deception such that the president of the USA has used it to support the notion that Islam is harmless by saying that Islam teaches Muslims that whoever kills a soul it is as if he has killed a whole mankind.
Let me help us here.


Here is that full text in the Koran

We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.
Qur'an 5:32


As you can see above,Allah was not addressing Muslims here
He was addressing the children of Israel i.e. the Jews
You folks should concentrate more on the next verse after that where he addressed Muslims expressly,which is where killers like adebolajo get their use from
Here it is

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 5:33-34

Thank you
I hope the readers are being educated
And for any Muslims shocked about this truth,Jesus is the way the truth and the life and his arms are open wide
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 8:03pm On May 25, 2013
coogar:

jails of this kind of crime is the cosiest - high profile criminals like this are segregated cos he runs a risk of being murdered by the other prisoners in gen-pop!


and an.al ra.pe shocked shocked lipsrsealed lipsrsealed angry angry they are gonna be some else's b* tches now grin
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by TheBookWorm: 8:14pm On May 25, 2013
Religion is the opiate of the masses.

The sooner people get rid of superstitious belief, the better.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 8:25pm On May 25, 2013
It's really hard for me to picture this adebolago guy as a killer...I mean look at that pic he jus looks like he is jus gonna start doing the azonto...he jus doesn't strike like a murderer to me : undecided undecided undecided
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by coogar: 8:34pm On May 25, 2013
mondi_cheeks: and an.al ra.pe shocked shocked lipsrsealed lipsrsealed angry angry they are gonna be some else's b* tches now grin

not in a UK prison, such is not condoned....
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Tatian(f): 8:37pm On May 25, 2013
ghananotnaija: I hope Ghanaians in Britain are not brainwashed as this murder was.

Hmmmmm! I hope so too ooo!
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nogen: 8:37pm On May 25, 2013
Olu'femi Abbey:


May that hammer you does posses fall on you. What has the issue got to do with "Abokis" or "Ngbatis" sick head? A man is not justified or crucified by his race or tribe. A man, a man; a race, a race. There are only two people in the world: good people and bad people--colour has no bearing!



Just wondering if you would have said the same if the killers names were Emeka Okoro and Ifeanyi Amadi. Double standards.
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 8:39pm On May 25, 2013
coogar:

not in a UK prison, such is not condoned....
Hmmm not too sure abt that though
http://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/south-african-mans-hell-in-british-prison.htm
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by coogar: 9:04pm On May 25, 2013
mondi_cheeks:
Hmmm not too sure abt that though
http://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/south-african-mans-hell-in-british-prison.htm

reckless accusation - this guy is lying. british prisons are like hotels. anäl räpe? if he's not the victim then he's probably exaggerating. his stabbing is believable though and that's the exact reason this nigerian terrorist will not be kept in the general population(gen-pop). he won't last 24 hrs there - they would have to segregate him from where harm can come to him!
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by Nobody: 9:05pm On May 25, 2013
coogar:

reckless accusation - this guy is lying. british prisons are like hotels. anäl räpe? if he's not the victim then he's probably exaggerating. his stabbing is believable though and that's the exact reason this nigerian terrorist will not be kept in the general population(gen-pop). he won't last 24 hrs there - they would have to segregate him from where harm can come to him!
have u been looked up in a uk jail? How wld u know?
Re: How Michael Adebolajo Became Radicalized From Schoolboy To Jihadist by coogar: 9:08pm On May 25, 2013
mondi_cheeks: have u been looked up in a uk jail? How wld u know?

i know everything happening in my country...... high profile criminals like michael adebolajo cannot be in gen-pop.

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