Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,153,282 members, 7,818,957 topics. Date: Monday, 06 May 2024 at 08:53 AM

I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise - Career (5) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Career / I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise (19677 Views)

A Friend Is About To Tender His Resignation Tonight Please Advise / My Boss Nags Each Time Its Time To Pay Salary. Please Advise Me. / Please Advise. We Were Told To Resign (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by docbindl(m): 8:21am On Jun 06, 2013
Am a Medical Doctor and am gonna give u my honest opinion:
Medicine is dissatisfactory to u bcoz u still hold dear the idealism that u read about in ur books, where everything is available to make ur diagnosis quite easy to get
And u feel u r dissatisfied, I had a similar syndrome 1 year after my NYSC, but the honest truth is that its the one job where can have lots of fun, work the Job, don't let the job work u. I do a job that creates ample time for my family, and due to that I'm even able to indulge in a small business on weekends, moreso the fact that u r a doctor makes ppol trust u quite easily and if u don't betray that trust, u will get offers in whatever business u decide to venture into.
Also medicine is that course that cuts across all field, the engineering firm requires doctor, the oil and gas requires doctors, the manufacturing requires doctors even banks nowadays are having in-house doctors all in the bid to save man-hour loss. So don't limit urself to the hospital, b on the lookout for doctor required in this firms..... Less Job, better pay and when u feel its time to move on, u move. I have my primaries in surgery already but have deferred my acceptance into JUTH. Coz am doing well as a doctor for Nestle. Earning good cash. So think outside the box.
And to cap it.. Medicine is the only job in Nigeria right now, that u can bet that maximum of 2 month of searching, u'll get a job. But this is all my opinion, the ball lies in ur court

3 Likes

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by biolabee(m): 8:53am On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

Yh. I av written and passed d first 2 steps.

haba bros,,, u are almost there naa,,,,

just 4-5 more years of residency and you are counting $$$$$$$

kaching!!



dayokanu:

Forget all the tripe about "I dont have a passion for" In this days people just do what can pay the bills

If your passion is playing Video games would you make a career out of it.

Most of the times we all just endure and get it done to pay the bills.


I know one girl who was very brilliant got into one of the best schools in US for Petroleum Engineering later she dropped out that she didnt have a passion for it, went to study sociology, graduated with a perfect GPA yet cant get a job while all her engineering colleagues were copping 60k-70k jobs she is getting 25-30k offers.

With student loans hanging and bills to pay she is now telling me she should have listened to me and stuck with the Engineering

If you claim its all about passion, Can you do your present job if you are not getting paid for it?

22 Likes!
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by ucheends(m): 9:03am On Jun 06, 2013
just 25yrs,what are u still doing in naija wit certificate.pay 4 medical doc in south africa is above 4000usd, in mozambique above 3000usd(language barrier).. Money first
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 9:28am On Jun 06, 2013
[quote author=dayokanu][/quote]

Its about the only branch of engineering that tickles my fancy - & then the traveling part ain't bad too.

I'm paying for the CS as soon as I get my F1.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by bellong: 9:31am On Jun 06, 2013
Pink!:


You are clueless. And why in the world are you hounding the young lad if I may ask? And yes to get into a different undergraduate degree in Nigeria you need to take UME

You actually do not need to take UME again for a second undergraduate degree. You only need DE for that and will take courses to make up for the previous degree deficiencies.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 9:55am On Jun 06, 2013
bellong:

You actually do not need to take UME again for a second undergraduate degree. You only need DE for that and will take courses to make up for the previous degree deficiencies.

True that but it ain't like you can't write the utme esp if its an unrelated course. I actually sent mails to some of the schools I'm looking at and explained my situation and was told by an admission officer in one of the schools that I can just apply as a transfer student. SAT, if aced, will give me leverage as regards financial aid.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by bellong: 10:24am On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

True that but it ain't like you can't write the utme esp if its an unrelated course. I actually sent mails to some of the schools I'm looking at and explained my situation and was told by an admission officer in one of the schools that I can just apply as a transfer student. SAT, if aced, will give me leverage as regards financial aid.

I already explained the importance of the SAT as a leverage for scholarship earlier to someone that questioned it. My last response was for the person who thought its only by UME you can get admission in Nigeria for a second undergrad degree. I understand your plans but you need to assess what you really want from life and the type of job you will enjoy doing.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Jazzpa(m): 10:42am On Jun 06, 2013
passion for your job overrides pride and pressure to impress the world..
however, medicine is a prestigous career. MSC in public health is too common(almost everybody has it)...I'll advice u choose public health as a specialty, write ur primaries and pass(that will give u an edge over other holders of Msc in public health), choose biostatistics as ur area of final specialization(coz of ur love for engineering and maths)...I promise u the sky will be ur starting point! Whatever decision you want to take should be on time..
Best of luck bro..

2 Likes

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by cecegorz(m): 11:10am On Jun 06, 2013
DrBaby: @OP, I am a doctor like u n truth is I av found myself in dis situation a lot of times before now. I was so scared of what il do afta graduation, dint want to get stuck doinwat I dont like....so i started to think....
Now wat is it dt u dont like in medicine....der r a lot of field/dept in medicine...its very rare for u to 'hate' all d dept...see if u can like anyone of it....just incase u really r goin to b 'stuck' in it....so I settled for paeds here...I dint make any commitment at dis stage (no primaries, nothin, just tried to dev d interest)
Next stage, I tot I needed a break frm medicine....sometimes its abt d stress u went thru so wen u eventually bcom a doc it feels like its nt worth it....not new cos we feel same way abt oda things in life....so at dis point I decided to change location (left naija) and settled for a masters in public health...now me not so cut out for oda things in life unlike u who alredi has an interest in pet eng.
Next...afta my one year masters...I looked at d public health thing...for a start I myt av to b travelling from one third world country to d oda to up ma CV n make myself relevant....at dis stage it was glaring I myt av more to deal wt here than in medicine so I said y not try medicine elsewhere, to av an idea wat clin practice is outside naija...so I wrote my licensing exams and started working as a doc here...bliv u me, life feels so diff now...d pay, so much less stress, things r workin well n everyday I see aw my actions or inactions directly affect patient care...n bliv u me, its bn worth it.
Now av said al dat just incase ur reasons r based on wat u see around u...or some fears abt ur future life as a doc where u r at d moment.
Another scenario u can learn from...
My bf is a doc also n since 300 level he has vowed neva to practice medicine so he has bn on a search for wat field to go into...he also wanted something engineering too...so at d end of d day, he settled for occupational health, safety and environment. Now wt dis u work directly wt most engineering companies esp oil n gas...u r a lil closer n u see inside things...there r a lot of certification u can get HSE I, II, III etc, he also alredi has his NEBOSH and he is getting his masters in occupational health safety n environ in d UK.
Now d choice is urs...d world has bcom so liquid dt goin for a first deg in engineering is like driving backwards...der r a lot of middle grounds des days n even heads of companies r lookin for diversified individuals ...cos it pays dem...u wl offer wat odas who av bn strictly in d field cant offer.
If u cld survive med sch..u can pretty much survive anywhere in d world...u av bn built to take over n dt mbbs cert def sets u out from d crowd.
I hope all I av said makes a lil sense n pls pray for God to direct u...dont make d decisions of a life time in a hurry.
Make Sure ur foundation in medicine is secure...as in b fully reg wt d council (mdcn, gmc etc) so dt wen u eventually venture into medicine either as a part time job ( apart frm in naija, its stl one of d highest Paying job outside, so u can b doin locums which pays more than wat oda ppl earn in 3 days for an hour) or for investment ( u myt want to invest in an hospital in d future), u go stl dey kampe
^^^ One of the best responses out here.
@OP, the only challenge I foresee you having is going back for a 6yr course as an undergrad, that's hitting over 30 by the time you bags the Pet Eng certificate.
At that age, you can't get any offer for a graduate Entry level unless your dad is the GMD of NNPC.
Assuming your passion is in a field where you can easily set up a private practice on your own, it would have been an easier task.
You gotta really weigh all your options.

1 Like

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by tpia5: 12:45pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

True that but it ain't like you can't write the utme esp if its an unrelated course. I actually sent mails to some of the schools I'm looking at and explained my situation and was told by an admission officer in one of the schools that I can just apply as a transfer student. SAT, if aced, will give me leverage as regards financial aid.

Let me just help you finetune your loose ends, you're not concocting your story well.

A medical degree is equivalent to a masters, i guess they didnt tell you that in your own "medical school".

Masters, not jsce.

Now you're mentioning financial aid, thanks to the helpful nlers like myself who are providing you with information.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 1:26pm On Jun 06, 2013
tpia@:


Let me just help you finetune your loose ends, you're not concocting your story well.

A medical degree is equivalent to a masters, i guess they didnt tell you that in your own "medical school".

Masters, not jsce.

Now you're mentioning financial aid, thanks to the helpful nlers like myself who re providing you with information.

I'm honoured. story of my life is too good to be true cheesy cheesy
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by otswag(m): 2:12pm On Jun 06, 2013
A masters program is a great opportunity 2 diversify into whatever field u're interested in. There's even a masters program in medicine related to engineering of hitech medical machines which many schools offer.all u need to do is broswe through these various programs and pick 1 closest to your interest.I assume u did this before choosing an mph program which is not a bad idea.To be blunt with u,going back n starting afresh after @least 7yrs of the craziness of medicine is a stupid idea.I studied medicine too so I know exactly what u're going through
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by guchieberry(m): 2:40pm On Jun 06, 2013
Pennywise: Anonymous and bigboss both of u have apathy to succed bc u lack drive.

What do u need MPH for? A better salaried job? What stops you from understudying your dad and current trends in medical practice with a view to raising their clinic to the level of hospital conglomerates seen in India. The biggest hospitals in Nigeria today are non-starters in earning potentials compared to asian hospitals. Some are richer than our banks.

Even if u chose to leave medicine, this apathy will follow u wherever u go after the initial excitement. Nothing is wrong with trying to beat ur own path. U will see along d way guys who are 10 times smarter and 20 times more hardworking who havve not been able to make any head way.

Success in life is not always abt abilities sometimes its providence and good fortune. Ur dads were fortunate they had it. And it might take a few generations bf ur families get it.

My advice to u is that be smart and take advantage of what u have.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by tpia5: 3:06pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

I'm honoured. story of my life is too good to be true cheesy cheesy

true that, sweetie.

the alternative explanation is even more unpalatable.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by dayokanu(m): 4:19pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

Its about the only branch of engineering that tickles my fancy - & then the traveling part ain't bad too.

I'm paying for the CS as soon as I get my F1.

What do you like about Petroleum Engineering? Why does it tickle your fancy and make you think you have a passion for it

What make you think Acid fractioning would be more interesting to you than writing Patient notes and diagnosis

1 Like

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 4:56pm On Jun 06, 2013
dayokanu:

What do you like about Petroleum Engineering? Why does it tickle your fancy and make you think you have a passion for it

What make you think Acid fractioning would be more interesting to you than writing Patient notes and diagnosis

I really dunno anything technical about petroleum engineering. But I like the perks that come with the job - traveling, renumeration etc. I dunno if I mentioned this earlier but I really love maths or lemme say arithmetic. If I'm staying in medicine and going on to do residency, then I'm going the pathology route, which is the only specialty that doesn't require an internship year.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by bellong: 5:09pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

I really dunno anything technical about petroleum engineering. But I like the perks that come with the job - traveling, renumeration etc. I dunno if I mentioned this earlier but I really love maths or lemme say arithmetic. If I'm staying in medicine and going on to do residency, then I'm going the pathology route, which is the only specialty that doesn't require an internship year.

If it is Arithmetic and traveling with good remuneration you fancy, why not take a masters program in petroleum geoscience, you will just need to take some courses in making up for the undergraduate deficiency
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by dayokanu(m): 5:14pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:
I really dunno anything technical about petroleum engineering. But I like the perks that come with the job - traveling, renumeration etc. I dunno if I mentioned this earlier but I really love maths or lemme say arithmetic. If I'm staying in medicine and going on to do residency, then I'm going the pathology route, which is the only specialty that doesn't require an internship year.

In the US remuneration wise Medicine easily doubles or triples petroleum engineering.

I don't think you need any internship to practice medicine.

Pass your Usmle steps get some observerships and externship experience get your application in. And you might Just be lucky and match.

Your residency years you would be making like 40-50k a yr

After residency you can go up to 200k a year which a petroleum engineer with 15yrs experience might not make.

If you now top it fellowship you can be making $400k a yr.

Depending on your specialisation

Traveling most times are to offshore rigs which are very boring

1 Like

Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 5:51pm On Jun 06, 2013
dayokanu:

In the US remuneration wise Medicine easily doubles or triples petroleum engineering.

I don't think you need any internship to practice medicine.

Pass your Usmle steps get some observerships and externship experience get your application in. And you might Just be lucky and match.

Your residency years you would be making like 40-50k a yr

After residency you can go up to 200k a year which a petroleum engineer with 15yrs experience might not make.

If you now top it fellowship you can be making $400k a yr.

Depending on your specialisation

Traveling most times are to offshore rigs which are very boring

Thx a lot, I really do appreciate your contributions. I avnt made any commitments yet but I'm a lot more informed than when I started this thread and hope to balance my 'passion' with pragmatism.

All specialty residencies in the US apart from pathology have their first year as an internship - and trust me, that's about the worst part of medicine for a doc dat isn't clinically inclined. I don't see myself doing it again.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Numerouuuno: 7:15pm On Jun 06, 2013
dayokanu:

SAT is for undergraduate

GRE is for Graduate programs
Gracias bro
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by gtrust: 7:37pm On Jun 06, 2013
annoymous:

Is there any such thing as prosthetic medicine. That's bioENGineering, and trust me - I've checked it out - its as good as starting over.

Theres nothing engineering offers in terms of financial reward that Medicine cant ultimately match or at least almost match - so it ain't for pecuniary reasons

Good you read my post!

BioEngineering is better than what you were talking about because here you build on your current foundation (medicine).
Besides: it depends on where you look:
Prosthetic medicine in Europe is totally different from America. (maybe non-existent in Nigeria).
Try Germany, I know a guy there smiling to the bank!

Besides: Medicine has evolved so much so that you can specialize in so many things particularly abroad.

You sound like you got the money so why not invest it in your program? You will enjoy it if you have money.
If you did 'pathology' or 'internship' once then you can pass that way again provided you're not stopping there.

Good-luck!
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by gtrust: 9:18pm On Jun 06, 2013
dayokanu:

In the US remuneration wise Medicine easily doubles or triples petroleum engineering.

I don't think you need any internship to practice medicine.

Pass your Usmle steps get some observerships and externship experience get your application in. And you might Just be lucky and match.

Your residency years you would be making like 40-50k a yr

After residency you can go up to 200k a year which a petroleum engineer with 15yrs experience might not make.

If you now top it fellowship you can be making $400k a yr.

Depending on your specialisation

Traveling most times are to offshore rigs which are very boring

Don't forget to mention that Doctors have to pay tax, insurance and other expenses on this money before someone reading your post go collapse!
Student loan and pay-back to people who sustained you during internship etc or looking after your wife/husband who has had to borrow....
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by biolabee(m): 8:23am On Jun 07, 2013
^^^Still doctors are well paid in the US..
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by ultimateballer: 8:59am On Jun 07, 2013
dayokanu:

In the US remuneration wise Medicine easily doubles or triples petroleum engineering.

I don't think you need any internship to practice medicine.

Pass your Usmle steps get some observerships and externship experience get your application in. And you might Just be lucky and match.

Your residency years you would be making like 40-50k a yr

After residency you can go up to 200k a year which a petroleum engineer with 15yrs experience might not make.

If you now top it fellowship you can be making $400k a yr.

Depending on your specialisation

Traveling most times are to offshore rigs which are very boring
This is false. you could Google top paying careers in the US and pet Eng and IT takes the cake
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 9:58am On Jun 07, 2013
ultimateballer:
This is false. you could Google top paying careers in the US and pet Eng and IT takes the cake

I don't think so. a Forbes article I read showed the top 5 jobs as health care workers with anesthetists, radiologists, surgeons leading the pack

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/05/13/the-best-and-worst-paying-jobs-in-america-2/
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by ultimateballer: 1:18pm On Jun 07, 2013
annoymous:

I don't think so. a Forbes article I read showed the top 5 jobs as health care workers with anesthetists, radiologists, surgeons leading the pack

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/05/13/the-best-and-worst-paying-jobs-in-america-2/
well it depends on how they arrived at that. most websites lists pet Eng and i.t. above health. do your research. here is an example http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/03/25/high-paying-entry-level-jobs/
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by dayokanu(m): 5:16pm On Jun 07, 2013
ultimateballer:
This is false. you could Google top paying careers in the US and pet Eng and IT takes the cake

I'm quite familiar with both careers And there is no way Pet Engineer would make more than a Doctor. Everyone in the US know this.

Doctors and especially Surgeons can make up to 700k a yr

After 15-20yrs a Pet Engineer might hit 200k but an average Doctor after that time would be over 300k

Check the 2 links below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialty_%28medicine%29

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/02/01/doctor-salary/
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by dayokanu(m): 5:18pm On Jun 07, 2013
ultimateballer:
well it depends on how they arrived at that. most websites lists pet Eng and i.t. above health. do your research. here is an example http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/03/25/high-paying-entry-level-jobs/

A doctors entry level is during his Residency years which are usually years of hands on training and the earnings are around 50k a yr

After the residency and fellowship, No profession can match them
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by dayokanu(m): 5:19pm On Jun 07, 2013
gtrust:

Don't forget to mention that Doctors have to pay tax, insurance and other expenses on this money before someone reading your post go collapse!
Student loan and pay-back to people who sustained you during internship etc or looking after your wife/husband who has had to borrow....

I'm sure every profession have to pay taxes, expenses student loans and other things you wrote up there too
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jun 07, 2013
ultimateballer:
well it depends on how they arrived at that. most websites lists pet Eng and i.t. above health. do your research. here is an example http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/03/25/high-paying-entry-level-jobs/

Your article says

jobs.aol.com:


(Note: The jobs listed below are a sampling of highly paid entry-level jobs and not a comprehensive, ranked list.)
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by Pink1: 12:10pm On Jun 10, 2013
bellong:

You actually do not need to take UME again for a second undergraduate degree. You only need DE for that and will take courses to make up for the previous degree deficiencies.

Yes you're right to a large extent especially in the OP's case guess I was so riled up at the guy that kept on trying to pick holes in the op's story. On the other hand where you to transfer to a totally different course say medicine to accounting or mass comm you may have to take the UME because there's no middle ground.
Re: I'm Considering Leaving Medicine - Please Advise by bellong: 1:56pm On Jun 19, 2013
Pink!:


Yes you're right to a large extent especially in the OP's case guess I was so riled up at the guy that kept on trying to pick holes in the op's story. On the other hand where you to transfer to a totally different course say medicine to accounting or mass comm you may have to take the UME because there's no middle ground.

You still do not need to take UME, because you must have taken some general courses in year 1 while in year two, you will take some courses from part one to make up.

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply)

"Smile Or Be Suspended": Phillipine Mayor Tells Government Employees / The Problems With Learning A Handwork. / Michele Ekure Receives AIT Staff From ICT Department

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 91
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.