CAMEROONPRIDE:

I got you.
Ps: accomplishments are relative

CAMEROONPRIDE: you to shout men domination if men are more skilled. Since you think this way, what if I feel more comfortable around men? I mean I only employ skilled men. Before you jump on me , I'm not talking about taking unskilled men over skilled women, I'm talking about two job seekers with the same skills but I only take men? Will you call that discrimination? [/color][/i]

fellis:

So pagan9ja what is your religion's stand on the issue of genders? Are they equal or is one superior to the other?

fellis:
I told you before what I thought the origin of the whole thing is ie males being providers and hence being heads/seen as superiors.
The belief has been further propagated or encouraged by religious teaching.

First of all, tell me why you think your daughters should not be allowed to go out while your sons should be allowed to go out.

The attitude of most males led me to have this belief. Tell me cameroon pride, why do you ask this question?

queen_of_sheba: Lol i was born and bred in the States and No i can not marry a Pagan or anyone of a different religion

deols: @Cameroonpride, I Wonder from where your faith surfaced. You know close to nothing about the pagan religion you profess.

na real wa for you

God reveled it to me. Are you saying Mohamed knew about Islam before his pseudo revelation? And I know more than you do about Bwiti so don't worry for me, how many times should we tell you, that paganism is not centralized?

onila:

women are respected to an extent in our hometowns in Nigeria

but Nigeria still remains a patriarchal society esp when it comes to culture

fellis:
In this situation, what is important is your intention for choosing only males and since you said it is because you are comfortable around males then you should ask yourself why are you comfortable around only males? What is the reason for this? Is it because of some prejudice or bias you have against women? Because if that is the reason then you are definitely discriminating.

CAMEROONPRIDE:

[i][/i] I'm very interested by what they do. Don't you think it has more to with lack of home training than a pseudo male domination/superiority?

I think girls are more vulnerable

CAMEROONPRIDE:

what if I'm shy , and women scare me?

CAMEROONPRIDE:

God reveled it to me. Are you saying Mohamed knew about Islam before his pseudo revelation? And I know more than you do about Bwiti so don't worry for me, how many times should we tell you, that paganism is not centralized?

CAMEROONPRIDE:

[i][color=#990000] God reveled it to me.

PAGAN 9JA:



about that, it was not revealed to him as it was revealed to you, Prophet Cameroon.

unlike your divine revelation, muhammad actually learnt it from a christian priest named Bahira, whome he met on one of his travels (when he was still Pagan), to Blad Al-Sham, i.e, the Levant, around modern-day Syria.

the christian priest thought him the bible ,etc. Also being a Quraysh tribesman, he went on frequent trading expeditions to the North and was therefore exposed to christianity, judaism and slightly monotheistic Zoroastrianism.

He then realized there was an open market down South for these New ideas in the Pagan lands of Arabia and that how he brought his blasphemous acts and corrupted the once Great Arab peoples.

CAMEROONPRIDE:
I heard he got rejected by the Jews/Christians thats why he hated them so much.

fellis:
God revealed paganism to you? Man you can lie.... You've forgotten that you said it was pagan9ja that introduced you to paganism abi?

PAGAN 9JA:



no Im not sure about that. He hated jews because of christianity I guess. this again proves the christian influence to his thoughts.

CAMEROONPRIDE:

but there's a passage in the Quran, where he said: " beware of Jews and Christians, they are. Not your friends

fellis: @pagan9ja,
Thanks for the expository explanation.
The thing is, culture has to be a part of religion. Both of them cannot exist independently apart.
If a certain group of people decide to follow a set of rules as their culture or way of life, they have to ensure that their god/gods approve of that way of life in order not to offend said god(s).
Whatever culture or cultural practise people choose to follow must be subject to the approval of their deities thus cultures are determined by religion or by what religious dieties approve and disapprove.
I hope you understand me?

CAMEROONPRIDE:

no, pagan told me more about it ,the concept, but God opened my mind and made me know that I'm on the wrong path, also he's the one who made me come across pagan and accept his message.yes God set up my mind. I lie very rarely and I hate when someone call me a liar

fellis:

I am so sorry if I upset you. I deeply apologize for making that comment. I had no idea God opened your mind after pagan spoke to you that's why I said that.
Sorry.
So Cameroonpride, I am curious, why do you think God opened your mind? How did you know he was the one telling you paganism was true path? How are you sure it was God doing these things and not just your intuition/gut feeling?

fellis:

Why do they scare you?

PAGAN 9JA:


You are welcome. You don't need to thank me. or else well be thanking each other a 100 times.

I told you before, some parts of culture are related to religion and some are not.
heres an example:


a masquerade costume is cultural and serves a Spiritual/religious purpose.

an Igbo war dance/Ikpirikpi Ogu dance. This is culture. it has nothing to do with Igbo religion (Odinani).

you see where to draw the line?

Its not that they just decide to do so. It is CUlture. it is your behaviour or something like that. its hard to explain.

A tribes culture will never go against its religion, unless its a borrowed one.

I do understand you, but can you give me an example whereby someones culture goes against their (Pagan) religious custom?

Note: most tribal cultures are anti-islam/christianity , so these dont count.

onila:

its sad masquerades are considered evil in Nigeria

PAGAN 9JA:


yeah I love masquerades. we used to do many good ones in the North too, but recently some were banned by our rulers.

PAGAN 9JA:


You are welcome. You don't need to thank me. or else well be thanking each other a 100 times.

I told you before, some parts of culture are related to religion and some are not.
heres an example:
a masquerade costume is cultural and serves a Spiritual/religious purpose.
an Igbo war dance/Ikpirikpi Ogu dance. This is culture. it has nothing to do with Igbo religion (Odinani).

A tribes culture will never go against its religion, unless its a borrowed one.
I do understand you, but can you give me an example whereby someones culture goes against their (Pagan) religious custom?

CAMEROONPRIDE:
I will answer the rest later

CAMEROONPRIDE:

Humm, your traditional rulers seem to have a great influence on your life

PAGAN 9JA:


yeah I love masquerades. we used to do many good ones in the North too, but recently some were banned by our rulers.

fellis:

Why can't you answer it now?