Efemena_xy: How come mine never do any of the stuff I've read on this thread, re: tantrums?

chaircover: I am a mother but I still love my peace and quiet and I will automatically find a seat in church, restaurant, train etc as furthest away from a child as possible.

From experience, I know that some kids are just difficult to manage no matter what the mother does to get them to behave, but in many cases, the mothers themselves dont do enough to keep their kids occupied and under control. I was on a flight recently and this kid was loudmouthed and rude throughout the flight & kept disturbing other passengers but the mother carried on watching her movie like the kid didnt belong to her

On my last flight a mother changed her baby right [b]there in the cabin and put the used pamper in the sick bag and when the cabin crew came round to clean up after we had our meal, this woman put her soiled baby nappy on the trolle[/b]y. How disgusting is that!!!!!

motherhood is not a bug, and if we plan adequately then a kid should be able to travel allowing peace for the other passengers, peace for the parents and peace for the kid itself.

Pack food that the kid enjoys and is already used to so that there are no tantrums and nasty surprises with airline food. Bring crayons and paper so the kids can occupy himself by drawing, bring lots of books for the kid, tablets and other electronics will keep the kid occupied . .so will games such as connect 4. you can also bring the kids some crafts that they can be getting on with during the flight, there are also hundreds of puzzles one can get for kids.

chaircover: I am a mother but I still lohve my peace and quiet and I will automatically find a seat in church, restaurant, train etc as furthest away from a child as possible.

From experience, I know that some kids are just difficult to manage no matter what the mother does to get them to behave, but in many cases, the mothers themselves dont do enough to keep their kids occupied and under control. I was on a flight recently and this kid was loudmouthed and rude throughout the flight & kept disturbing other passengers but the mother carried on watching her movie like the kid didnt belong to her

On my last flight a mother changed her baby right there in the cabin and put the used pamper in the sick bag and when the cabin crew came round to clean up after we had our meal, this woman put her soiled baby nappy on the trolley. How disgusting is that!!!!!

motherhood is not a bug, and if we plan adequately then a kid should be able to travel allowing peace for the other passengers, peace for the parents and peace for the kid itself.

Pack food that the kid enjoys and is already used to so that there are no tantrums and nasty surprises with airline food. Bring crayons and paper so the kids can occupy himself by drawing, bring lots of books for the kid, tablets and other electronics will keep the kid occupied . .so will games such as connect 4. you can also bring the kids some crafts that they can be getting on with during the flight, there are also hundreds of puzzles one can get for kids.

kulyie: Lol. I and my mom sw or experienced something very similar.we were going to agege and our car broke down and so we had to park in a safe place and take brt.while we were in the bus we were enduring the screaming,noise and crying of kids.mumsi was like manage,we will soon get to where we are going.to make matters worse we were stuck up in a go slow and the weather was sooo hot.before I knew what was happening we perceived one kind of disgusting odour and I was eating gala that time.i don't know what made me look towards the mother removing diapers and I saw where the stench was comming from.imidiately I threW that gala away and the mother poured everything in the nylon and left it on the floor.honestly I pitied the man that sat beside her.my moms patience was already exhausted and she said what kind of filthy woman are you behaving as if you don't even know other people are sitting around you.she now started apologizing.that moment I wish I could just get down and go back home.I had to tell mummy its ok.she was so upset because everyone was uncomfortable.mumsi was like only God knows how your sitting room is.men oko e try gan.she started apologizing and all but honestly it wasn't a pleasant eXperience

tpia@:


well, yorubas say if a baby pees or poops on you, it means the baby likes you, so perhaps the kid did all that in your apt because he likes you, abi how you for see am.


the whole thing actually is starting to sound like a soap opera on tv.

Efemena_xy:

I fail to grab your point here Kulyie.

You all were travelling in the bus /car - so you were on the move. The baby soiled his/her nappy and the mother promptly changed it, tied up the contents in a nylon bag and dropped on the floor pending you lot reach your destination.

So what else did you expect her to do? Fling out the bag of shyte through the window whilst you lot were still in motion? Or leave the crying baby in the soiled nappy for goodness knows how long?? The poor woman did what she had to do, so I don't get your beef. It's not like there was a mobile dustbin / trash can that the mother refused to use, is there?

chaircover: I am a mother but I still love my peace and quiet and I will automatically find a seat in church, restaurant, train etc as furthest away from a child as possible.

From experience, I know that some kids are just difficult to manage no matter what the mother does to get them to behave, but in many cases, the mothers themselves dont do enough to keep their kids occupied and under control. I was on a flight recently and this kid was loudmouthed and rude throughout the flight & kept disturbing other passengers but the mother carried on watching her movie like the kid didnt belong to her

On my last flight a mother changed her baby right there in the cabin and put the used pamper in the sick bag and when the cabin crew came round to clean up after we had our meal, this woman put her soiled baby nappy on the trolley. How disgusting is that!!!!!

motherhood is not a bug, and if we plan adequately then a kid should be able to travel allowing peace for the other passengers, peace for the parents and peace for the kid itself.

Pack food that the kid enjoys and is already used to so that there are no tantrums and nasty surprises with airline food. Bring crayons and paper so the kids can occupy himself by drawing, bring lots of books for the kid, tablets and other electronics will keep the kid occupied . .so will games such as connect 4. you can also bring the kids some crafts that they can be getting on with during the flight, there are also hundreds of puzzles one can get for kids.

kulyie: I would rather have her do it discretely and package it back in a nylon bag without anyone seeing that stuff let alone perceieve it and dispose it off when she gets down.I have seen a couple of clean mothers that pack their kids thrash without any one noticing,that's my point

slimyem: I travelled by road last weekend and something similar happened. This two year old boy screamed and cried for almost all the four hours the journey lasted. I felt like grabbing him from his mum and flinging him out the window.
Then there was this other one that was seated with her mum behind me. She pulled at my hair through most of the journey while I constantly protested. It was a really uncomfortable trip.
I avoid sitting next to nursing mothers on journeys like that. My tolerance level is very low. I love kids only when they are quiet,clean and cheery.

Efemena_xy:

CC, I get you jare, but you know, sometimes things like this aren't the mothers' fault but the airline's. Although putting a bag of baby shyte on the food trolley was extreme and crass though.

Take Arik Airlines from Lagos to Warri for example, last year. Shortly after boarding the plane, before it took off, I had to change my daughter's nappy. So see me with my changing bag, mat, wipes, nappy, nappy sacks, creams, et al. I asked the attendants to direct me to the mother and baby changing room and the response was: "Ah madam, we nor get that one here o! Na only normal toilet for adults dey here!"

I asked her what I was expected to do, only to be met with a blank expression. So it was either I changed her back in the cabin or use the general, unisex toilet. To cut a long story short, I opted for using the single unisex toilet there. I wasn't easy with a wriggling 11 month old child but we got there in the end. Suffice to say, I took my sweet time and the pilots just had to wait till I finished and emerged from the toilet with her before they could take off! Sweet revenge eh?

You for see the passengers expressions when we emerged from the toilet (lol). I bet you, madam Kulyie must have been amongst them that day!

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Your alternative does not make sense. How do you change a baby's diaper "discreetly"? Shit smells. Brt's don't have toilets so what did she do wrong?

kulyie: what she did wrong was opening the babys stuff for all to see without giving consideration that you are not in your private car with your family.even if you cant control the smell,no one has to see that.if you were in your house and tou decide to putor change used diapers in your kitchen beside your food that is absolutly your cup of tea but in a public places have regard for other peoples *



meanwhile it doesnt have to make sense to you


summary of my tale is that some women need to have some sense of decency and class instead of behaving crude because you are nursing a child.

damiso:

I get you CC about you trying to keep them occuppied but as Ile said different temperaments. Age also matters as there is rarely any activity (except sleep maybe) that would keep a 14 month who is just learning to explore the world around them still for 14 hrs.

kulyie: what she did wrong was opening the babys stuff for all to see without giving consideration that you are not in your private car with your family.even if you cant control the smell,no one has to see that.if you were in your house and tou decide to putor change used diapers in your kitchen beside your food that is absolutly your cup of tea but in a public places have regard for other peoples *



meanwhile it doesnt have to make sense to you


summary of my tale is that some women need to have some sense of decency and class instead of behaving crude because you are nursing a child.

ileobatojo:


Exactly! Mine was 7 months old on the flight I described so no amount of connect 4's was keeping him under control. But I will extend that age group to even up to 2 or more where it's difficult to force your will upon the child for 8-14 hrs straight abeg. It depends on the child you have. On the same flight where mine was screaming, there were other babies sleeping, cooing and enjoying the scenery.

Lol@ Sisi .

Chillisauce: Someone like kulyi will even throw the tin from window. Even if there is traffic.i know her type....

honey86:
How do you expect her to do that?. its impossible because the first thing that will draw people to look is the smell. So there is no way she could have changed the nappy discreetly. Taking care of babies is no small feat and no matter how posh you are, there will be some situations where it will be impossible to act posh.

Efemena_xy: How come mine never do any of the stuff I've read on this thread, re: tantrums?

Efemena_xy:

Well said.

You know, it really depends on a lot of variables, but suffice to say, I think it's more of a hit or miss thing. I mean, you can have the most placid, even tempered child...but what's to stop your baby from having a bad day and deciding to have a strop?

Children are so unpredictable and merely being in an unfamiliar environment is enough to set them off. Experience does help to an extent where you know your baby's about to pull one on you, so you might have a, b, or c tricks up your sleeve to distract them, BUT there is only so much one can do.

On our way back, while waiting at the Murtala Airport lounge at Lagos, I let my daughter play, play, and play some more with her brothers. Don't know where she got all that energy from. It was tough. She wanted and did virtually everything. Ate, pooed, played, etc. When eventually we boarded the plane, I was seriously praying for her to get some sleep. Luckily for me, she slept in that their bassinet (baby cot) with her toes sticking out! (lol) And boy was I grateful. Was praying for at least 1 hour's rest but she slept most of the way. I was grateful. If she hadn't, I would have seen pepper that night sha, like madame Ile

Chillisauce: I notice kids trained with pacifier tend to be more tolerate. Once they start their tantrum, just the thing in their mouth. It keeps them busy till they nod off.

As for those that grew without pacifier, na war to calm them down . What ever u going to use to entice them, they soon grow tired of it.

ileobatojo:

Great point that I had also meant to mention. None of my kids took to a pacifier so I didn't have that to fall back on. It does make a HUGE difference.

damiso:

Me too none of my kids took to a pacifier.My son sucks his thumb though(very very annoying habbit ) and I find he is definitely calmer than his sister.