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Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by dayokanu(m): 5:54pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
What do you have to say to this? A Russian man who tried to rob a hair salon ended up as the victim when the female shop owner overpowered him, tied him up naked and then used him as a sex slave for three days.. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013870/Robber-broke-hair-salon-beaten-black-belt-owner-kept-sex-slave-days--fed-Viagra.html#ixzz2ZbbslpVL Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 5:56pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
dayokanu: I fail to see how a man, the stronger sex can be held down against his will by a woman or women, AND forced to have s.ex with them to the point where he ej@cul@tes. If he is drugged, he won't have the strength to raise a hard on. If he was under the influence of drink, that alone should give him super human powers to throw the woman / women off him. Failing to do that only goes to show that subconsciously, he wants it. dayokanu: And even a woman molested would still have vaginal secretions after some thrusts into her. And does that equate to consent from the woman? Being held down by brute force against her will? Besides, the female anatomy would only produce vaginal secretions if she is stimulated enough to want to have s.ex! That is one of the reasons many of these women who've been molested bleed. Simply because their body tightened up against the act, but the man, being the stronger one physically would still have his way (forcefully), simply by overpowering her. That to me, is a clear cut case of non-consentual s/ex. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 5:59pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
dayokanu: What do you have to say to this? That randy thief was simply getting his innermost fantasies played out! I bet you, he would wet dream and relieve that experience for the rest of his days with fondness... |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 6:02pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: ok, no alcohol....
what if he was drugged to get him physically weak? what if it was a double dosage to get him weak plus a potent aphrodisiac?
so you mean a woman that's about to be räped, stripped, limbs tied up so she cannot fight back and then licked thoroughly would not get wet? you must dwell in a parallel universe..... Efemena_xy: but fact remains he was räped..... |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by dayokanu(m): 6:03pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: You fail to see how a man can be held down by a woman? Some women are stronger than some men. A man drugged can be easily overpowered by a little girl. 3-4 women can easily overpower any man. Force him to sex? Simple stroke his peniss he would cop an errection.
If a man is drugged he would still cop an erectionn. Also alcohol weakens people it doesnt make stronger. Thats why you would lie in a gutter and not even have the strenght to get up from your vomit |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by taryour(f): 6:15pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Han han. Efe, Dayo and Coogar. Oga fun yin ooo, you all are just making my day with this argument,even my pikin dey kick in my belle out of excitement. Eku ise oo. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 6:20pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
taryour: Han han. Efe, Dayo and Coogar. Oga fun yin ooo, you all are just making my day with this argument,even my pikin dey kick in my belle out of excitement. Eku ise oo. Madam No free show here! You don pay for your front row seat, ba? |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by dayokanu(m): 6:22pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
taryour: Han han. Efe, Dayo and Coogar. Oga fun yin ooo, you all are just making my day with this argument,even my pikin dey kick in my belle out of excitement. Eku ise oo. Efe, See Tayos son is also getting excited abi you wan say he too dey think of something ni? |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 6:28pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
coogar: Doesn't that sound contradictory to you? Getting to the point of being so weak, you can't lift a finger but yet able to cope a hard on? And this physical 'weakness', is it selective? I mean, you saying it works on some part of the body and not on others? Is this not meant to be wired up to the nervous system of the human anatomy? Besides, if it's that bad, then the guy should fall into a deep, dreamless, slumber! Not have randy s.ex coogar: so you mean a woman that's about to be räped, stripped, limbs tied up so she cannot fight back and then licked thoroughly would not get wet? No, I'm well grounded. On earth. A rapist doesn't care to get his victim 'wet' and 'willing'. He just wants to b@ang his brains out as quickly as possible without a care for his victim. So why would he go the extra mile to start a-licking away?? Don't you know that many of these r@pists do what they do simply for the power it gives them? So why would he abandon his crassness, just to get his victim in the mood?? Where's the sense in that? coogar: Not if he enjoyed it. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 6:29pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
dayokanu: Dayo! |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 6:37pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: that's the beauty of the phallus. even when the mind/body is weak, he can be strong. this is why men can cop erectiöns while sleeping!
he can sleep n still have his erëction - the erectiön is what his attacker needs. all other stuff can be waived. did you not hear of the man that kept sleep-shaggïng his neighbours. in his state of sleep, he would come out of his house, enter a neighbour's room and sleeps wïth them?
lol, i really don't think so...
yes, your MO is very correct about rapïsts but supposing there's one who isn't really about violence - he gets his kick by being subtle and blah blah blah - are you saying a woman would not respond to her stimuli??
so if a woman enjoys sex then she cannot claim to have been räped? |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 6:54pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: that's the beauty of the phallus. even when the mind/body is weak, he can be strong. this is why men can cop erectiöns while sleeping!
he can sleep n still have his erëction - the erectiön is what his attacker needs. all other stuff can be waived. did you not hear of the man that kept sleep-shaggïng(sexsomnia) his neighbours. in his state of sleep, he would come out of his house, enter a neighbour's room and sleeps wïth them?
lol, i really don't think so...
yes, your MO is very correct about rapïsts but supposing there's one who isn't really about violence - he gets his kick by being subtle and blah blah blah - are you saying a woman would not respond to her stimuli??
so if a woman enjoys sex then she cannot claim to have been räped? |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 6:57pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
^^ Not if she was forced against her will. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 7:03pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: ^^ Not if she was forced against her will. not true..... |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by taryour(f): 7:18pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
dayokanu: Hey Dayo how you know say na boy I go have again Take your time o dayo,besides my first son too small for all this thing you dey talk oo.no let him papa catch you for this forum o,he dey watch your back oo. Efe I don pay oo,tey tey from page zero. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 7:23pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
taryour: Lol! |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 3:18pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
This case just made a drastic u turn. Lady has been pardoned by dubai ruler and told she is free to go after a public outcry in norway. Can nigerians ever do that for their bro and sis in diaspora when they r unjustly treated or even in naija? We still hv a looooooong way to go.nothing like developed culture |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 3:21pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
^^ What about the man/men also involved in her case? Were they pardoned too? (assuming they were even jailed in the first instance...) |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 3:35pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: This case just made a drastic u turn. Lady has been pardoned by dubai ruler and told she is free to go after a public outcry in norway. bad publicity is bad business and dubai needs tourism....good for her but she lost her job in the process. she was a compulsive liar - she confessed the sëx was consensual at a point and she later changed her statement. when asked why she changed her statement, she said a dubai policeman told her to lie it was consensual so as to make the case go away - what a pathetic excuse!!!! |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: ^^ What about the man/men also involved in her case?To tell d truth,I don't know.saw it on cnn news brief. I pray they forgive him too. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by EfemenaXY: 3:58pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
^^ Yeah, just seen it. He's also been pardoned. This guy was actually her colleague. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by biolabee(m): 6:29pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
So it was just a case of a randy girl flouting public decency laws in the middle east of all places Hahaha #NotSurprised |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by TV01(m): 7:09pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
biolabee: So it was just a case of a randy girl flouting public decency laws in the middle east of all places ...it was always likely to be so. Not that that would hinder our resident "sensible shoe lesbos, idiopathic misandrists, rabid feminazis and purveyors of licentiousness from coming out in full force and venting until blue in the face...And with narry a half point between them... Shior TV 1 Like |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
*Ahem*
But what are facts to a bunch of half wits, nincompoops and bible toting supporters of ra*pe? Oh, and by the way, her story about being told to say it was consensual was corroborated. But a representative of Al Mana Interiors, who Dalelv worked for, told CNN that she was not advised by her manager to say the sex was consensual but rather by a police officer, who told her that in Arabic and it was translated into English by her manager. *From the same article.* |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 7:35pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
ileobatojo: *Ahem* she got so drunk not to know the way to her room in a hotel and asked a colleague to escort her? you must be super-thick to believe these jargons. at least, every hotel in that country has about 20 security staff @ the lobby providing any sort of help for the guests - even if you want your handbag carried for you.....she ignored those and asked a male to take her into a room?
another hogwash - why would a woman so sure she was räped suddenly decide to lie the sex was consensual? if you get räped, under what circumstance would you ever agree to change your statement "just to make the case go away"?? rapë is a very emotionally damaging issue so i doubt any woman would take such advice from a police officer..... it's funny, the western media as usual did not even quote the alleged attacker to hear his own side of the story. all the quotes we keep seeing are from the same faction of the pathological liar. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
coogar: The fact that you have claim not to believe it doesn't automatically make it untrue. I'm not sure what's so unbelievable about asking a 'friend' to escort you to your room for your safety. Unless you have specific facts disproving it, I'm not interested in your senseless speculation. coogar: Oh, only a hundred million reasons... Like being under duress as a result of being arrested for no credible reason in a foreign country with no knowledge of their laws, wanting to make it all go away so she can return safely back to her home? The knowledge that everything she understands about the police and the law do not work the same way she knows in this country leading her to believe the advice by people supposedly knowledgeable about how things work? Of course you've never heard of plea deals, settling out of court or even cases of coerced confessions. And if you have, your brain apparently cannot process the similarities between them and what happened here. rapë is a very emotionally damaging issue so i doubt any woman would take such advice from a police officer..... Guess what else is also a very emotionally damaging issue, being stuck in a biased, ridiculous justice system in a country far away from home with no clear idea of how it's all going to end.... Being arrested for days without charges, with all your documents confiscated, no one believing your traumatic story of molestation... |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 8:15pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
ileobatojo: it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the loopholes in her story. she's in a hotel - there are staff that could have helped her at the reception. did she not know she wasn't supposed to lead a man into a room? why did she not ask this help from a fellow woman? get out of here with your tunnelvision...
under duress? the same woman that was asked if calling the police was the right thing and she answered yes? i am not too sure your attention span is coping with her tale of lies....
then she must have been born foolish - every man and his dog know the laws in dubai. no association with the opposite sex is allowed in a hotelroom. she's not new in the country so all those pathetic excuses can only wash with you....
plea deals in a räpe case? she was the case! what's she dealing with? it's a simple yes or no matter, not a complex case. was she rapëd or not? why would she agree to change her statement. only the accused is actually open to any plea deals - he's the one that can actually change pleas guilty/not guilty and not the plaintiff.
she should get out of their country - they did not want women of her calibre there. western women go everywhere and use ignorance as an excuse to desecrate the place. i am happy she was sacked - there are thousands of jobs in oslo waiting for her where she can ask her director to escort her home after a night of binge-drinking!!! |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
coogar: How do you expect her to know that? So anytime you visit a tourist country, you study all their laws? I have been to Dubai and I did not know all these laws. So yes, it's definitely plausible that she did not know these laws. Also, often times, most of their laws are waived for foreign visitors so why should she have been bothering her head about them? If she had not gotten raped, she would never have had any dealings with the police. Anybody could have helped her to her room, she chose one, who happened to be someone she knew and trusted. coogar: Of course she said yes, she had a rape to report. Or are you saying she knew she had 'broken their laws' and she was going to get imprisoned and she still went ahead and called the police? How does that mean she was not under duress when she got arrested for no credible reason after reporting she was raped? coogar: What rape case? There was never a rape case taken up by the authorities. She was the accused here because she had been arrested and jailed! If she had not become the accused, what was she doing in jail? coogar: I have no problem with her getting sacked for going against their company policy. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 8:59pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
ileobatojo: how won't she know? she's not a newbie in dubai. she's just playing possum after being caught! she did not get räped. the sex was consensual....she's one of those female criminals who get the kicks from putting their bed partners in trouble after the alcohol in their system subsides.
she chose the opposite sex in an islamic country where drinking alcohol without a license is a crime and being holed in the same room with an opposite sex is a crime. yeah right!!!
before the police arrival, she was asked by the hotel staff if calling the cops was the right decision. she said yes!!! hotel staff wasn't stupid, the staff knew she would be processed for alcohol & sëx outside marriage....... when the test results came out, there was alcohol in her system and she was arrested again. then she claimed she was told to change her statement by an official...why would anyone seeking justice back down after taking the oath to speak the truth?
they were both guilty of sëx outside marriage - she was guilty of perjury and drinking alcohol without a license. those are serious charges in dubai!
are you sure? think about it before you making this decision. are you sure this isn't another ploy to oppress women? ileoba, are you getting soft all of a sudden? this is a sizeable chunk of beef to bite....... |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 9:16pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
coogar: The hotel staff knew the bogus laws and that women who are raped get no justice; she did not know, which is why she went ahead and asked for the police. coogar: What the heck are you talking about? Unlike you, I'm a rational human being. Her company did not fire her for getting raped did they, unlike the police that jailed her for getting raped. They fired both of them for drinking alcohol at a staff conference resulting in trouble with the police and for not communicating with them while the case was going on. They are under no obligation to keep her job waiting for her if she was to remain in jail for 16 months. It is not their own job to investigate the case, all they know is that she was drinking on company time and ended up in jail. It is the jobs of the re*tarded justice system in Dubai to prosecute appropriately. If she wants to go enter into a legal battle with her company based on her innocence in the police matter, she should take her evidence and go and fight it. Until then, I have no problem with her being fired. |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by coogar: 9:33pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
ileobatojo: she knew what the laws are - she's an employee in dubai. she drank to the point of not being sure she could find her way back to her room - the beginning of her irresponsibility. she then asked a sudanese man to escort her back to her room(another crime). she then had consensual sex, woke up and she was ashamed of what she had done and then screamed foul play! in her statement, she said she went into the room with the man with the hope of drinking water before she would take her leave. she then claimed that was the last thing she remembered. how can any responsible woman drink that much and forget what transpired? then the real smoking gun was the fact that she changed statements.... "i was rapëd" became "i wasn't raped" and changed back to "i was rapëd" and you can stand there and hold the brief for this promiscuous lethargic devil of a woman? seriously, there has to be a point where arguing for the sake of it becomes irritating. ileoba, this woman lied she was räped....you cannot convince me otherwise!
because she had committed a crime for putting herself in that situation in the first place. i remember a british dude that got jailed too. he had picked up a call-girl and she cleaned him out of his money. the stüpid man called the cops to report the theft but she got jailed for having sëx outside marriage. that's their law, visitors should respect it!
buhahahaha - who would have thought ileoba can be turned to argue objectively like this? i feel like a proud father watching her daughter getting admitted into havard. keep it up, witchdoctor!!! |
Re: Woman Jailed For Getting Raped by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
She was an employee in Qatar, not Dubai. I never said she was not irresponsible. However, that is no excuse for her to be raped. You are basing your assumption that she had consensual sex on the fact that she was drink and asked to be escorted to her room. Therefore anything that happens after that is fair game. Basically, that means its something you can do? She changed her story because her fears and desperation led her to take the advice to change it. I have always been objective. The fact that you're pained when I call out idiocy doesn't change my objectivity. |
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