Anyway - no more bickering, its silly.

Interesting article in DefenceWeb

Basically, Denel has said it will be happy to develop the Rooivalk II (which is a pretty obvious statement)

What is interesting is that this is the first cofirmation of the development and aquisition of Drop-Tanks for the Rooivalk that I have seen

Denel Aerostructures is ready and willing to support manufacture of a new Rooivalk, and is currently making drop tanks and small components for the existing fleet of 11 serving in the South African Air Force.

The Rooivalk drop tank is 3.45 metres long, .64 metres in diameter, and has a fuel capacity of 550 litres. It weighs 51.5 kg empty and 496 kg full. The centre section is made of metal while the nose and tail section and being made from composite materials. Lightening protection was designed into the tank for all weather operation.

- from: "Denel Aerostructures ready to support Rooivalk II" - Defenceweb

Any idea as to how far drop tanks extend the Rooivalks range?

patches689 i didn't think you could give up so easily but you south africans need to stop underestimating we are coming and come and fight with us this jihadists

frumentius:


It's the same video and I don't know why you're so defensive. After all, you're not the one who wrongly captioned it, are you?

I see no reason to change my caption.

africaken:
patches689 i didn't think you could give up so easily but you south africans need to stop underestimating we are coming and come and fight with us this jihadists

Sorry Mate but im lost??!! You said the Ingwe cant be used on an Iraqi EC635 because it has no flir pods, BUT you just posted a pic which looks like an Iraqi EC635 with a flir pod, thus destroying your own argument?? Can you help me out here mate because I am confused!

africaken:
patches689 i didn't think you could give up so easily but you south africans need to stop underestimating we are coming and come and fight with us this jihadists

I am not giving up

To put it simply, its friday evening, i just got back from work, I have had a 60 hour work week and I need to go back tomorrow - i dont have the time or energy to have trivial arguments. Everyone confirms that we have sold the Ingwe to the Iraqi's... if you dont want to accept that then whatever.

You want us to come fight Jihadists?

Well, first off, we are quite busy securing our own borders and sorting out SADAC. And frankly, South Africa 1st, SADAC 2nd, rest of Africa 3rd - thats how our priority's rank we arent going to spend treasure and blood on problems an the other end of the Continent when we have problems closer to home, problems that directly affect us.

Second, if Kenya and Co want South Africa in Somalia, then get your leaders to ask. We arent going to jump on-board your Crusade just for fun.

Henry120:


I see no reason to change my caption.

Uhhh.. apart from the fact that it is wrong?

jln115:

Sorry Mate but im lost??!! You said the Ingwe cant be used on an Iraqi EC635 because it has no flir pods, BUT you just posted a pic which looks like an Iraqi EC635 with a flir pod, thus destroying your own argument?? Can you help me out here mate because I am confused!

i just wanted to see if you can prove me wrong and see how resourceful you are

frumentius:


You reached that conclusion all by yourself mate. If the shoe fits and all that.

For the record, my reference to inferior products at inflated prices in dodgy deals was to the DRC, where I've spent time seeing the evidence with my own eyes. Go back over my posts and you'll see my lamentations of this abysmal state of affairs, especially because all that kit was acquired at the same time both DRC and Namibia were responding to the effects of sanctions.

Secondly, I don't need to mask anything when it comes to Nigeria. Your procurement process is a shambles and in serious need of a fix. Not my place to suggest how you go about that, as I concern myself only with SADC.

My reply was to correct a wrong impression and a poorly informed comment you made. It was primarily targeted at the comments about "moaning" et al, call it educative.

I hope i passed my point across, as crystal as they should be.

On Nigeria, our procurement has been primarily driven to feel a gab, more like a stop-gap and they do not represent our procurement policy in no shape or form. Your willful display of ignorance is once again unfortunate and based on poorly informed assessments.

patches689:
Anyway - no more bickering, its silly.

Especially when some people quibble about an old-ish system like the SAWS. Hell, Paramount has even concluded tests on the latest system for Airbus Helicopters, the FLASH. The most obvious major upgrade being that guided rockets will now come as standard. They've selected Turkey's Cirit rockets.
http://www.paramountgroup.biz/PDF/Advanced-Technology/flash.pdf


As for the EC635 in the SAAF, I'm a great fan of the BK117 and always thought we should have stuck with Airbus instead of the Agusta in the LUH role.

patches689:


I am not giving up

To put it simply, its friday evening, i just got back from work, I have had a 60 hour work week and I need to go back tomorrow - i dont have the time or energy to have trivial arguments. Everyone confirms that we have sold the Ingwe to the Iraqi's... if you dont want to accept that then whatever.

You want us to come fight Jihadists?

Well, first off, we are quite busy securing our own borders and sorting out SADAC. And frankly, South Africa 1st, SADAC 2nd, rest of Africa 3rd - thats how our priority's rank we arent going to spend treasure and blood on problems an the other end of the Continent when we have problems closer to home, problems that directly affect us.

Second, if Kenya and Co want South Africa in Somalia, then get your leaders to ask. We arent going to jump on-board your Crusade just for fun.

but did they have photographic proof ! second if you want to reduce your unemployment number ,thats easy heavily invest in your military industries. dont want to help us no problem but i can assure you our infrastructure is improving day and night ,electricity generation rapidly improving even some of your military manufacturers are knocking on our door.they want to manufacture in our countries

africaken:
i just wanted to see if you can prove me wrong and see how resourceful you are

By way of proving yourself wrong?

Henry120:


My reply was to correct a wrong impression and a poorly informed comment you made. It was primarily targeted at the comments about "moaning" et al, call it educative.

I hope i passed my point across, as crystal as they should be.

On Nigeria, our procurement has been primarily driven to feel a gab, more like a stop-gap and they do not represent our procurement policy in no shape or form. Your willful display of ignorance is once again unfortunate and based on poorly informed assessments.

He never said anything about nigeria

Seems you have a chip on your shoulder or something

And yes, your procurement is a shambles - if it wasnt you wouldn't need to implement stop gap purchases in the first place

Why do you think RSA has so many Projects and Stratergies underway at any one time? Because if we suddenly need something urgently we just need to open the filing cabinet and we will know what to buy, what to pay for it and who to get it from.

uganda troops in somalia

uganda maritime patrol unit in mogandishu

EXCLUSIVE Ethiopia Hinds in somalia doing serious damage to alshabaab

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ihS81nNro&app=desktop

[quote author=Henry120 post=36702761]

My reply was to correct a wrong impression and a poorly informed comment you made. It was primarily targeted at the comments about "moaning" et al, call it educative.

I hope i passed my point across, as crystal as they should be.

Still arguing with yourself mate. Everything I said was about the DRC. Your true disposition is revealed by the fact you felt the same was applicable to Nigeria and went defensive.

On Nigeria, our procurement has been primarily driven to feel a gab, more like a stop-gap and they do not represent our procurement policy in no shape or form. Your willful display of ignorance is once again unfortunate and based on poorly informed assessments.

Bunkum. To illustrate, those thousands of hilux vans for your motorised infantry predate Boko Haram and were acquired during Obasanjo's tenure.

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Ignorance is bliss.

S. Africa Military in "Critical Decline"

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HCOuax0d_w

sudan troops in training

uganda troops

somali national army officers graduation in turkey

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFO_0LnLzZw

africaken:
uganda troops

Honestly I love uganda uniformity In there Camourflage,soldiers carrying enough magazine,not. Badly equiped and they are doing well in there region when it comes to deploying hard ware to conflicts zone. Nice pictures frm africaken !

Nautic Africa launches Sentinel vessels for Nigeria


Nautic Africa has launched two 35 metre Sentinel vessels for a Nigerian customer, after laying their keels in December last year. The vessels are expected to arrive in Nigeria on 25 August.


Nautic Africa, a Paramount Group company, launched the two new vessels, Augustina II and Princess Ebikenie, in Table Bay Harbour last week. They are capable of top speeds of 29 knots, and can reach 26 knots when fully fuelled - even with the weight of additional ballistic panelling throughout the deck level.

The 108-tonne aluminium-hulled vessels have been designed with versatility in mind and feature a number of significant improvements to Nautic's standard Sentinel model, the company said. Both vessels are capable of staying at sea with a full crew and security team complement of 16 to 18 people for four weeks at a time without refuelling when conducting a security patrol or escort function.

This capability is facilitated by the four main fuel tanks and day tank with a combined capacity of 56,000 litres. In addition, a large walk-in fridge and freezer provide capacity to produce 3,000 litres of water a day using the onboard desalination plant.

Enhancements for PLC alarm monitoring and tank level sensing are accomplished throughout the vessel via colour Human Machine Interface (HMI) touch screens. Six CCTV cameras feed directly to the Captain and Chief Engineer's cabins as well to the bridge. This, coupled with the intercom system, gives the crew the ability to communicate well in any emergency. The Captain is also able to view the chart plotter display in his cabin.

A fire-fighting pump is able to deliver 1200 cubic metres an hour of seawater on to a vessel, shore or rig fire. Capable of propelling a jet of seawater 120 metres and 45 metres high, the vessel is able to combat fires at a safe distance, Nautic said.

The Augustina II, the offshore patrol vessel (OPV) version of the Sentinel, is fitted with one of Nautic's Guardian craft. This fast interception craft can be launched in under 90 seconds from the aft deck in emergency or threat situations.

In addition, the surveillance capacities of the Augustina II are enhanced with the fitment of a 92-nautical mile range S-Band Radar. This technology gives the crew the ability to detect objects in areas during heavy rainstorms - a capability critical to the equatorial waters where she will be operational.

Outfitted for safety during crew transfers, Princess Ebikenie features a ballisitically protected crew transfer seating area containing 40 IMO (International Maritime Organisation) rated seats. Access at the forward section of the seating area provides entry to the vessel's bow, which has been specifically designed for the safe transfer of crew via platform-access ladders.

To facilitate safe docking and transfers, two 35 kW electric bow thrusters have been fitted, providing redundancy and fine bow control in windy conditions or areas with strong currents.

Nautic Africa concluded a R600 million deal in mid-2013 to build seven of the 35 m multi-role patrol vessels for West African clients. The first of class, MV Sir Emeka Offor, was launched in August 2014. Given the area that the vessel will operate in, the vessels features composite ballistic protection, with the wheel house capable of stopping a projectile fired by an AK-47. The vessel is also fitted for, but not with, defensive weapons. Driven by three Caterpillar engines, the vessel has a crew of eight and can accommodate 18 passengers at a maximum speed in excess of 28 knots.

sudan (Tamal) off road patrol vehicle

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkUTM2VjMcA

sudan made KARABA tactical vehicle

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O28HRzyHqM

Sudan light aircraft SAFAT 03

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6TjFwkyJTQ

Sudan Military industry corporation (MIC)

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwV7bcwUCYo

Pic 1:Namibian Army
Pic 2:Namibian Navy sailors in the drink
Pic 3:Namibian Navy Namacurra 'babysitting'

Nigerian Army Special forces

Henry120:
Nigerian Army Special forces

Your expertise is baldy needed on this thread on frontpage

https://www.nairaland.com/2509179/re-equipping-nigeria-army-airforce

africaken:
except for congo where else are you contributing ?

Sudan, Mozambique, DRC includes a training mission for FARDC(mission Thebe).

Assisting in selection and training of various SADC countries SF units.

mediating in Lesotho and recently invited in Burundi.

Compare to other regional powers.