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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 11:08pm On Aug 28, 2013
pazienza:



Nnaa, we are no longer in the era of village gathering, where all members of the society get to contribute in decision making of the town, we are in the era of representative democracy. The law in question was not made by Okorocha,as he doesn't have such powers, the law was made by imo state legislature, whose members are supposed to be representatives of all the imolites, and whose decisions are supposed to be that of all imolites they represent.


Okorocha didn't make that law, he merely signed the bill into law, if you have problem with that, take your case to the member of imo state legislative body that is representing your town.
Correct!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by babestell(f): 11:11pm On Aug 28, 2013
Correction, abortion rates are not lower in the North. Its almost the same just that they are more discreet about it.

The solution is very easy, sexual morality, if you dont have sex you wont abort. Proper use of family planning for those couples who dont want more kids. These account for least 90% of abortions.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 11:52pm On Aug 28, 2013
biafranqueen: Lets talk Facts:
• Nearly half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe, and nearly all unsafe abortions (98%) occur in developing countries. In the developing world, 56% of all abortions are unsafe, compared with just 6% in the developed world. [1]
• The proportion of abortions worldwide that take place in the developing world increased between 1995 and 2008 from 78% to 86%, in part because the proportion of all women who live in the developing world increased during this period. [1]
Since 2003, the number of abortions fell by 600,000 in the developed world (western Worlds where abortion is legal) but [b]increased by 2.8 million in the developing world.(In Africa where it is illegal except South Africa where they have the least abortions in Africa) In 2008, six million abortions were performed in developed countries and 38 million shocked shocked in developing countries, a disparity that largely reflects population distribution. [1][/b]
A woman’s likelihood of having an abortion is slightly elevated if she lives in a developing region. In 2008, there were 29 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years in developing countries, compared with 24 in the developed world. [1]


Illegal abortions are more in Africa then legal abortions in America and UK

The overall abortion rate in Africa, where the vast majority of abortions are illegal and unsafe, showed no decline between 2003 and 2008, holding at 29 abortions per 1,000 women of childbearing age.

Why is it that South Africa has legal abortion but the least women seek it in this country?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_IAW.html

90% NIGERIAN MEN [b]would NOT[/b]adopt a child or want to raise a child that does not belong to him.
what do you mean? Are you for it or against it? God is intrested to know your heart position, and then those kind of men you named here can not posses the kindom of God.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 12:08am On Aug 29, 2013
kleveg: The issue here is not the denomination one belong, catholic or non catholic but the gravity and consequences of this bill. we have seen the clause the guides the bill, in time of molestation,intimate assult, inbreeding. but the question is, how do we know that a woman going for abortion has been molested or raped. looking at the nature of this bill, our young girls are bound to abuse it in time to come. owning to the fact that there is no criteria that will prove that a girl pushing for abortion is actully raped or assulted
Thank you, God grant you more wisdom
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Vide(m): 12:12am On Aug 29, 2013
I dey laugh o!

"“Imo State of Nigeria, Violence Against Persons (Prohibition) Law Number 12 of 2012”." VAP (Violence Against Persons) Law yet the killing of the harmless and helpless Innocents at their early stages of living is legal. It is a Shame.

Can Rochas and company tell us through scientific knowledge if life exists in man without blood?
If there is blood flowing in a man there is tendency of life irrespective of at what stage the blood is found.

Come to think of it, does a woman really need the government of the day to pronounce an abortion before she decides to commit to one? Can you smell a fish! Perhaps it is a ploy by some randy and lofty politicians and or big wits to conceal their atrocities in the face of the law just like the proponents of the ""Girl Child Marriage"".

It is a shame that a Governor of a state who is also a decorated Knight of the Roman Catholic Church displays in public ignorance of his title "Knight of The Catholic Church". Simply put defend the church and her teachings even if it will cost him the ultimate price.

This is a clarion call to all man 'to thine own self be true' ... Shakespare
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:23am On Aug 29, 2013
INJESUSITRUST: what do you mean? Are you for it or against it? God is intrested to know your heart position, and then those kind of men you named here can not posses the kindom of God.
God will judge me according to what I do in my own life. We can not stop them from doing abortions it is being done even though it is illegal. The solution as one poster stated is proper education, easily accessible birth control and regulated abortions, if they want to do it let them face their own God because when they life is put on review you will not be around.

Don't you get it Nigeria is not the same and will continue to become more and more morally corrupt. Those 660,000 women that performed abortion last year go to church bet me. Yet and still they will just go and say forgive me I have sinned and they have not been educated. It is already illegal and it is still happening. Let it be legal so records can be kept and we can educate women on the choices, like adoption and birth control. So many of these women that can not have children know it is because they have damaged their womb and they are paying for it. We need to legalize it to control the death rates and also to educate. But we don't even want to talk about it except to say it is against God to have sex. Yet some of you were backing a Pastor saying touch not my anointed. Nigerians are so fake honestly! As long as the sinner repents they are saved, even if they repent 1 million times, yet and still the problem will continue!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by DanAnyiam: 12:27am On Aug 29, 2013
chukwudi44: Rochas had better be careful!!! If he decides to fight the catholic church which comprises about 70% of the states population he will be finised politically.He should not forget what happeded to Ohakim and how he got to power in the first place.Abortion is murder except when the pregnacy endangers the mother's life.Even if a child comes from rape he should be allowed to live

Those of you arguing oterwise,assuming of your daughter is raped and somehow manages to give birth to a baby resulting from its pregancy will it be rigt to still kill the baby after it has already been born simply because his father was a rapist?

So it becomes murder even when the child is a few hours old but legal abortion even when the mother is 8 months pregmants.Taking of human life is bad.There is no two ways about it.

It is simply a use of different terminologies to describe the same act
I am not arguing against your stance on the issue but I got to make few points
1. Ohakim's henchmen beat up a catholic priest Rochas didn't.
2. This law wasn't sent to the house by the governor to pass into law. It was manufactured/made inside the house, hence not Rochas law or bill.
3. There has never been a census of Catholics or any other in Imo to come to your bogus claim that 70% of Imo people are catholics.
4. Your stance on this debate will be tested on the day that your girl on the side (like most Nigerian men usually has) come and inform you that he is expecting your baby, after your last wrestling match in a seedy cash only motel.
5.No sex, no abortion, if all Imo men keeps the stick firmly zipped and all Imo sisters firmly cements all boreholes-There will be no pregnancy and no abortion, based on your staggering 70% claim in mind.
6.All those bible doctors should be made to swear before that bible that they have never touched any woman that isn't their mrs- or do they grade sin now in the land of bible doctors?

7.Finally, the beauty of Christianity is the the freedom the proper founder (Jesus) attached to it. He made it clear that its a religion of choice. That why through the bible he gave people choices. Hence the choices we individually makes will be between us and our creators. Catholic holy people, Hypocrites Jesus called them, they tend make much fuss about the scratching noise of a mouse but ignores the pounding noise of an elephant. These are the same doctors that leave people to die until they put down a hefty deposit and that doesn't include life.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:27am On Aug 29, 2013
babestell: Correction, abortion rates are not lower in the North. Its almost the same just that they are more discreet about it.

The solution is very easy, sexual morality, if you dont have sex you wont abort. Proper use of family planning for those couples who dont want more kids. These account for least 90% of abortions.

Other findings:
• Annually, 3,030 facilities treat some 142,000 women who experience complications from abortions.

• Nonphysicians--pharmacists, paramedics, nurses, midwives, women themselves and individuals with no formal medical training (or "quacks"wink--perform or induce 366,000 abortions each year.

• Physician respondents believe that the main methods used by nonphysicians to induce abortions are dilation and curettage, hormonal or synthetic drugs and insertion of solid or sharp objects.

• Some 1,300 doctors and hospitals in all parts of the country are responding to women's need to terminate unwanted pregnancies, performing some 245,000 abortions each year.

• Most doctors perform only a few abortions, typically about one per week.

• Of the physicians who perform abortions 73% are nonspecialist general practitioners, and 76% perform abortions only during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.

• Three quarters (72%) of physicians providing abortion sometimes use manual vacuum aspiration (MVA), currently the safest method commonly used for early abortion in Nigeria. Many physicians (76%) also use dilation and curettage (D&C).

• The rate of abortion is highest in the Southwest (46 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44), somewhat lower in the Southeast (32), and much lower in the northern states of Nigeria (10–13).
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:38am On Aug 29, 2013
babestell: Correction, abortion rates are not lower in the North. Its almost the same just that they are more discreet about it.

The solution is very easy, sexual morality, if you dont have sex you wont abort. Proper use of family planning for those couples who dont want more kids. These account for least 90% of abortions.

Here is a direct quote from a Senator from the North

The last few weeks have been weeks of reflection for north Nigeria. A region where the leaders – from the parents, to the traditional/religious leadership and up to the governors, and presidents, have failed in absolute proportions.
The governor of Kano, Rabi’u Musa Kwankwaso put it out straight and unglazed. ‘Our problem, the insecurity is the failure of us as parents, the society at large and the leadership.’

Of the children, he said, “they grow up to hate themselves, hate their parents, hate the leaders, and hate the government and the society. They feel they were deprived, they feel injustice and they become enemies of the state and constituted authorities; and thereby becoming vulnerable to crime and violence.”

He further explained that typical northern parents have 20-30 children and keep two or three they like, while sending off the remaining dozens out into the almajiri world to never know love.
http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:43am On Aug 29, 2013
Dan Anyiam:
I am not arguing against your stance on the issue but I got to make few points
1. Ohakim's henchmen beat up a catholic priest Rochas didn't.
2. This law wasn't sent to the house by the governor to pass into law. It was manufactured/made inside the house, hence not Rochas law or bill.
3. There has never been a census of Catholics or any other in Imo to come to your bogus claim that 70% of Imo people are catholics.
4. Your stance on this debate will be tested on the day that your girl on the side (like most Nigerian men usually has) come and inform you that he is expecting your baby, after your last wrestling match in a seedy cash only motel.
5.No sex, no abortion, if all Imo men keeps the stick firmly zipped and all Imo sisters firmly cements all boreholes-There will be no pregnancy and no abortion, based on your staggering 70% claim in mind.
6.All those bible doctors should be made to swear before that bible that they have never touched any woman that isn't their mrs- or do they grade sin now in the land of bible doctors?

7.Finally, the beauty of Christianity is the the freedom the proper founder (Jesus) attached to it. He made it clear that its a religion of choice. That why through the bible he gave people choices. Hence the choices we individually makes will be between us and our creators. Catholic holy people, Hypocrites Jesus called them, they tend make much fuss about the scratching noise of a mouse but ignores the pounding noise of an elephant. These are the same doctors that leave people to die until they put down a hefty deposit and that doesn't include life.


Please tell themooooo Tell them!!!!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by DanAnyiam: 12:44am On Aug 29, 2013
aryzgreat:

Ur point is? Abortion is MURDER! Fornication is sin, adding murder to it has severe punishment. If a gal is raped, its not her fault bt her sin will be greater if she decide to kill d forming child. Life cycle begins from conception, so s foetus has soul. If she doesn't want d child let her brace up give birth and take d child to any motherless babies home. She won't av any blame fo doing so.
The simplicity of your argument, one has to conclude that you has before been molested in the past, you went on and carried the pregnancy till the end, and you gave birth to a child and bang!! you handed the child over to your mentioned motherless babies home and walked away, just like that. lol
By the way many people might like to know where this your handy motherless baby's home is located.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:46am On Aug 29, 2013
Dan Anyiam:
The simplicity of your argument, one has to conclude that you has before been molested, you carried the pregnancy, gave the birth and bang!! gave to the child to your mentioned motherless babies home just like that, of which I will like to know where this handy babies home is located
They think it is that easy for the child and the mother just dropem and keep it moving embarassed
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 12:59am On Aug 29, 2013
Look at the faces of those PARENTLESS CHILDREN do they look happy

Anyone that comes here shouting bible verses have never spent time in a motherless baby home. The same ones saying if a girls molested to keep it would never in a million years marry a single girl with a baby.
The other ones spewing trash about just drop them off and move on would never even think about adopting one.

Until we spent time in the Motherless Home my husband would tell me the same trash about not adopting a child, who knows the parents blood, they will probably corrupt my own children, I don't want a child whom I don't know the lineage. But when the babies were holding on to him hugging him and grabbing him and our children beg him, he finally said he will think about it just this year and I have been begging him for 4. All his family is against it that is what is taking so long, but they all go to church every Sunday without fail. undecided

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by pazienza(m): 1:12am On Aug 29, 2013
biafranqueen: Look at the faces of those PARENTLESS CHILDREN do they look happy

Anyone that comes here shouting bible verses have never spent time in a motherless baby home. The same ones saying if a girls molested to keep it would never in a million years marry a single girl with a baby.
The other ones spewing trash about just drop them off and move on would never even think about adopting one.

Until we spent time in the Motherless Home my husband would tell me the same trash about not adopting a child, who knows the parents blood, they will probably corrupt my own children, I don't want a child whom I don't know the lineage. But when the babies were holding on to him hugging him and grabbing him and our children beg him, he finally said he will think about it just this year and I have been begging him for 4. All his family is against it that is what is taking so long, but they all go to church every Sunday without fail. undecided



Chai! stories that touch.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Double27: 1:37am On Aug 29, 2013
biafranqueen: How many motherless baby homes do you support. Or which one do you support. How many have you visit? You people are quick to tell them to drop them off but they are already under funded. Would you adopt a motherless child
My dear because you don't support any does not mean other people don't.
I do support in my little way and am using this opportunity to encourage you and your likes to do so.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Double27: 1:41am On Aug 29, 2013
biafranqueen:

Here is a direct quote from a Senator from the North

The last few weeks have been weeks of reflection for north Nigeria. A region where the leaders – from the parents, to the traditional/religious leadership and up to the governors, and presidents, have failed in absolute proportions.
The governor of Kano, Rabi’u Musa Kwankwaso put it out straight and unglazed. ‘Our problem, the insecurity is the failure of us as parents, the society at large and the leadership.’

Of the children, he said, “they grow up to hate themselves, hate their parents, hate the leaders, and hate the government and the society. They feel they were deprived, they feel injustice and they become enemies of the state and constituted authorities; and thereby becoming vulnerable to crime and violence.”

He further explained that typical northern parents have 20-30 children and keep two or three they like, while sending off the remaining dozens out into the almajiri world to never know love.
http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race
So whats the solution? kill the children?
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by mubalex50(m): 2:02am On Aug 29, 2013
If dis truly sign 2 law in imo state, okorocha is a stupid being, my humble self call for his impeachment. His nt worth been our leader any longer
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by babestell(f): 3:27am On Aug 29, 2013
biafranqueen:
He further explained that typical northern parents have 20-30 children and keep two or three they like, while sending off the remaining dozens out into the almajiri world to never know love.
Please this is not as typical as you would make it sound. 3 out of every 5 almajiris are not even Nigerian to start with. I still say that abortion is in the North is as high as else where, its just that there are no records. A lot of DIY goes on there and those gehs know the latest and safest ways, I served there and I stayed with Drs. If a girl came in with complications from DIY abortions they kept it off the books if not that girl would probably end up dead, killed by a vengeful relative or some radical he goat. Also abortion as a form of family planning is practised there very well and it is kept off the books. The figures you got come mostly from from NGOs am sure they even doctor their figures to make it lower cos they wldnt want some Imam to get up and say they are corrupting the young girls.you know how that will end na!

I feel your passion about this issue. You are very right, Nigerians generally are hypocrites. We will not adopt until we are pushed to the wall. Imagine a couple selling their property for IVF when they could ave just adopted and used that money to train the child. And they will not marry single moms. If you are a single mom and you don't have a strong family supporting you all the way, your life will be hell in Naija. People who you are better off than in every way will just feel the need to put you down.
But that does NOT make Abortion right. It is pre-meditated murder of an innocent child: yes the child is underdeveloped and cannot survive on its own but it is still a living being. And that's where most Pro-abortion posters are coming from but then again the question you asked is very important and should actually be addressed: What is the solution? That would require a whole re education of youths to value hard work and the fruits of such efforts over so called easy rewards from prostitution or pimping, Churches actually teaching their members about purity, honesty and the value of marriage amongst other efforts. A really Herculean task but one that I believe can at least be started.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 5:55am On Aug 29, 2013
biafranqueen: Yes that is the point I ma making in South Africa it is legal and they have less abortions then any where in Africa.
What is your solution?
33,000 women died last year from illegal abortions!
I am waiting for your own solutions not just shouting religious dogma!

My own solution? Simple give those kids a right to live as your own mother gave you.The 33,000 women would not have died if they had not done abortion in the first place
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by babestell(f): 6:37am On Aug 29, 2013
@ Chukwudi44
I like how you stand for the Church and Faith, you always encourage me. God bless you cheesy
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by blackbeau1(f): 6:58am On Aug 29, 2013
3ace: I am surprised at this comment particularly coming from a lady. Are you saying a female should keep a pregnancy for a ràpist? I pray it doesn't happen to you.
that is not what she is saying. How many women get pregnant for rapists? Even if they do,trust me doctors don't say no if you tell them you want to abort because you were raped.but legalising it is just not right. Since we are now legalising everything,let's legalise gay marriage while we are at it.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by amanambuchinas: 7:43am On Aug 29, 2013
[color=#000000][/color][b][/b] God save us
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Okijajuju1(m): 9:19am On Aug 29, 2013
[b]NOTE::

- If you are against abortions and you dont volunteer at|own|work at or sponsor a Motherless babies home|Compassionate home|Foster care Home and other such charitable organizations where abandoned babies and kids are cared for, then you are nothing but a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and you dont currently sponsor a motherless child, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and have never visited a motherless babies home to see the plight of these kids, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-Abortion and have not adopted a motherless child|nor have any actual plan to, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
- If you are anti-Abortion and find it hard to give alms to street kids that come up to your vehicle to wash your windshield in traffic, then you are a hypocrite.
_ If you are anti-abortion and have a small boy|girl that you and your family brought from the village that works in your house as a houseboy|girl for no salary|poor public education That neither you nor your siblings atteneded|poor welfare and other such poor treatment, you are a hypocrite and a slave-master|owner.

#You guys dont care about these babies or their welfare, just about appearing politically|religously correct.

Abortion is simply a womans right to control what happens within her body. I have met several single mothers in Nigeria. One thing I always ask them in our conversations is; WHY DIDNT YOU JUST GET AN ABORTION? and their reply is always, I WAS SCARED OF DYING.. And I couldnt blame them. Many girls die every year in this country from abortion simply because we have created an avenue for quacks to scheme money off these women and basically kill them. Many of these girls never go on to attain their full potential because of this.

FUNNY!! Most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would NEVER!!! I repeat, NEVER!!!!! allow their male siblings marry a single mother. grin Infact, most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would never consider marrying a single mother and adopting their children. NO NEED TO FRONT ONLINE, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH.. Infact, most of the people here talking, their extended family would never welcome a single mother into their midst, talkless of accepting a 'BASTARD' as a part of them.. grin YES!! I SAID IT!! 'BASTARD!! Thats what these kids are 'GRAMMATICALLY SPEAKING' This is grown man talk here, Lets please put sentiments aside...

I know my society. I still remember when a young girl from a HIGHLY Emphasis on HIGHLY Christian home got impregnanted by one street urchin in the neighbourhood where I grew up. I remember how they tried to cover up the news but it spread nonetheless. I remember how the girl was shipped to their village to stay with her grandma. I remember how they packed up and moved out of the neighbourhood a few months later from shame.. I remember seeing them about 2 - 4 years later in their new house, I remember entering their house and seein the girl in the house.. I remember not seeing a trace of that child anywhere.. I remember attending her wedding, and still no sign of the kid.. I remember later hearing that they either disposed of the child or dumped him in a home... #Poor Girl.. She still cant look at any of that knew about the child in the face.


We can look at this from a biological perspective, child right perspective, Womens right perspective, societal perspective, religous perspective, legal perspective, e.t.c.. The one thing we all can agree is that this is a very complicated matter that is bigger than 'ABORTION IS MURDER, SIMPLE!'.

Think about it.. [/b]

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Chrisbenogor(m): 10:05am On Aug 29, 2013
Okija_juju: [b]NOTE::

- If you are against abortions and you dont volunteer at|own|work at or sponsor a Motherless babies home|Compassionate home|Foster care Home and other such charitable organizations where abandoned babies and kids are cared for, then you are nothing but a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and you dont currently sponsor a motherless child, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and have never visited a motherless babies home to see the plight of these kids, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-Abortion and have not adopted a motherless child|nor have any actual plan to, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
- If you are anti-Abortion and find it hard to give alms to street kids that come up to your vehicle to wash your windshield in traffic, then you are a hypocrite.
_ If you are anti-abortion and have a small boy|girl that you and your family brought from the village that works in your house as a houseboy|girl for no salary|poor public education That neither you nor your siblings atteneded|poor welfare and other such poor treatment, you are a hypocrite and a slave-master|owner.

#You guys dont care about these babies or their welfare, just about appearing politically|religously correct.

Abortion is simply a womans right to control what happens within her body. I have met several single mothers in Nigeria. One thing I always ask them in our conversations is; WHY DIDNT YOU JUST GET AN ABORTION? and their reply is always, I WAS SCARED OF DYING.. And I couldnt blame them. Many girls die every year in this country from abortion simply because we have created an avenue for quacks to scheme money off these women and basically kill them. Many of these girls never go on to attain their full potential because of this.

FUNNY!! Most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would NEVER!!! I repeat, NEVER!!!!! allow their male siblings marry a single mother. grin Infact, most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would never consider marrying a single mother and adopting their children. NO NEED TO FRONT ONLINE, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH.. Infact, most of the people here talking, their extended family would never welcome a single mother into their midst, talkless of accepting a 'BASTARD' as a part of them.. grin YES!! I SAID IT!! 'BASTARD!! Thats what these kids are 'GRAMMATICALLY SPEAKING' This is grown man talk here, Lets please put sentiments aside...

I know my society. I still remember when a young girl from a HIGHLY Emphasis on HIGHLY Christian home got impregnanted by one street urchin in the neighbourhood where I grew up. I remember how they tried to cover up the news but it spread nonetheless. I remember how the girl was shipped to their village to stay with her grandma. I remember how they packed up and moved out of the neighbourhood a few months later from shame.. I remember seeing them about 2 - 4 years later in their new house, I remember entering their house and seein the girl in the house.. I remember not seeing a trace of that child anywhere.. I remember attending her wedding, and still no sign of the kid.. I remember later hearing that they either disposed of the child or dumped him in a home... #Poor Girl.. She still cant look at any of that knew about the child in the face.


We can look at this from a biological perspective, child right perspective, Womens right perspective, societal perspective, religous perspective, legal perspective, e.t.c.. The one thing we all can agree is that this is a very complicated matter that is bigger than 'ABORTION IS MURDER, SIMPLE!'.

Think about it.. [/b]
Bros your bottles of Oloye and odeku dey pile up o, my barman don dey complain abeg where we go send am go abeg abeg bros abeg.....
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 10:25am On Aug 29, 2013
Okija_juju: [b]NOTE::

- If you are against abortions and you dont volunteer at|own|work at or sponsor a Motherless babies home|Compassionate home|Foster care Home and other such charitable organizations where abandoned babies and kids are cared for, then you are nothing but a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and you dont currently sponsor a motherless child, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and have never visited a motherless babies home to see the plight of these kids, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-Abortion and have not adopted a motherless child|nor have any actual plan to, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
- If you are anti-Abortion and find it hard to give alms to street kids that come up to your vehicle to wash your windshield in traffic, then you are a hypocrite.
_ If you are anti-abortion and have a small boy|girl that you and your family brought from the village that works in your house as a houseboy|girl for no salary|poor public education That neither you nor your siblings atteneded|poor welfare and other such poor treatment, you are a hypocrite and a slave-master|owner.

#You guys dont care about these babies or their welfare, just about appearing politically|religously correct.

Abortion is simply a womans right to control what happens within her body. I have met several single mothers in Nigeria. One thing I always ask them in our conversations is; WHY DIDNT YOU JUST GET AN ABORTION? and their reply is always, I WAS SCARED OF DYING.. And I couldnt blame them. Many girls die every year in this country from abortion simply because we have created an avenue for quacks to scheme money off these women and basically kill them. Many of these girls never go on to attain their full potential because of this.

FUNNY!! Most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would NEVER!!! I repeat, NEVER!!!!! allow their male siblings marry a single mother. grin Infact, most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would never consider marrying a single mother and adopting their children. NO NEED TO FRONT ONLINE, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH.. Infact, most of the people here talking, their extended family would never welcome a single mother into their midst, talkless of accepting a 'BASTARD' as a part of them.. grin YES!! I SAID IT!! 'BASTARD!! Thats what these kids are 'GRAMMATICALLY SPEAKING' This is grown man talk here, Lets please put sentiments aside...

I know my society. I still remember when a young girl from a HIGHLY Emphasis on HIGHLY Christian home got impregnanted by one street urchin in the neighbourhood where I grew up. I remember how they tried to cover up the news but it spread nonetheless. I remember how the girl was shipped to their village to stay with her grandma. I remember how they packed up and moved out of the neighbourhood a few months later from shame.. I remember seeing them about 2 - 4 years later in their new house, I remember entering their house and seein the girl in the house.. I remember not seeing a trace of that child anywhere.. I remember attending her wedding, and still no sign of the kid.. I remember later hearing that they either disposed of the child or dumped him in a home... #Poor Girl.. She still cant look at any of that knew about the child in the face.


We can look at this from a biological perspective, child right perspective, Womens right perspective, societal perspective, religous perspective, legal perspective, e.t.c.. The one thing we all can agree is that this is a very complicated matter that is bigger than 'ABORTION IS MURDER, SIMPLE!'.

Think about it.. [/b]
Gbam Enough Said !!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:37am On Aug 29, 2013
babestell: @ Chukwudi44
I like how you stand for the Church and Faith, you always encourage me. God bless you cheesy

Thank you
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:41am On Aug 29, 2013
There is one thing I don't understand.Is abortion a sin only in the catholic church? Is it okay for protestants to commit abortion?

If the answer to this questions are no,how come other churches are silent and leaving the battle for catholics alone.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Okijajuju1(m): 10:44am On Aug 29, 2013
Chrisbenogor:
Bros your bottles of Oloye and odeku dey pile up o, my barman don dey complain abeg where we go send am go abeg abeg bros abeg.....

Brother..

Okay! I go PM you now now.. Make we seriously look into this matter. grin Na this kind of pile up is not good for my Nigerian Breweries shares.. grin
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Chrisbenogor(m): 10:51am On Aug 29, 2013
Okija_juju:

Brother..

Okay! I go PM you now now.. Make we seriously look into this matter. grin Na this kind of pile up is not good for my Nigerian Breweries shares.. grin


Bia Nwokem,
This your the more you look the less you see is very very unPDP-like angry angry angry
Now you don run comot Ph ba? Issokay As the newly crowned Arch bishop of ST. Bottles Cathedral I forgive you of your sins, go .....drink and sin no more.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by windseeker(f): 12:43pm On Aug 29, 2013
Okija_juju: [b]NOTE::

- If you are against abortions and you dont volunteer at|own|work at or sponsor a Motherless babies home|Compassionate home|Foster care Home and other such charitable organizations where abandoned babies and kids are cared for, then you are nothing but a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and you dont currently sponsor a motherless child, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-abortion and have never visited a motherless babies home to see the plight of these kids, then you are a hypocrite.
- If you are anti-Abortion and have not adopted a motherless child|nor have any actual plan to, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
- If you are anti-Abortion and find it hard to give alms to street kids that come up to your vehicle to wash your windshield in traffic, then you are a hypocrite.
_ If you are anti-abortion and have a small boy|girl that you and your family brought from the village that works in your house as a houseboy|girl for no salary|poor public education That neither you nor your siblings atteneded|poor welfare and other such poor treatment, you are a hypocrite and a slave-master|owner.

#You guys dont care about these babies or their welfare, just about appearing politically|religously correct.

Abortion is simply a womans right to control what happens within her body. I have met several single mothers in Nigeria. One thing I always ask them in our conversations is; WHY DIDNT YOU JUST GET AN ABORTION? and their reply is always, I WAS SCARED OF DYING.. And I couldnt blame them. Many girls die every year in this country from abortion simply because we have created an avenue for quacks to scheme money off these women and basically kill them. Many of these girls never go on to attain their full potential because of this.

FUNNY!! Most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would NEVER!!! I repeat, NEVER!!!!! allow their male siblings marry a single mother. grin Infact, most of the anti-abortion campaigners here would never consider marrying a single mother and adopting their children. NO NEED TO FRONT ONLINE, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH.. Infact, most of the people here talking, their extended family would never welcome a single mother into their midst, talkless of accepting a 'BASTARD' as a part of them.. grin YES!! I SAID IT!! 'BASTARD!! Thats what these kids are 'GRAMMATICALLY SPEAKING' This is grown man talk here, Lets please put sentiments aside...

I know my society. I still remember when a young girl from a HIGHLY Emphasis on HIGHLY Christian home got impregnanted by one street urchin in the neighbourhood where I grew up. I remember how they tried to cover up the news but it spread nonetheless. I remember how the girl was shipped to their village to stay with her grandma. I remember how they packed up and moved out of the neighbourhood a few months later from shame.. I remember seeing them about 2 - 4 years later in their new house, I remember entering their house and seein the girl in the house.. I remember not seeing a trace of that child anywhere.. I remember attending her wedding, and still no sign of the kid.. I remember later hearing that they either disposed of the child or dumped him in a home... #Poor Girl.. She still cant look at any of that knew about the child in the face.


We can look at this from a biological perspective, child right perspective, Womens right perspective, societal perspective, religous perspective, legal perspective, e.t.c.. The one thing we all can agree is that this is a very complicated matter that is bigger than 'ABORTION IS MURDER, SIMPLE!'.

Think about it.. [/b]

WOW. All of the above. Plus respect for the simple fact that a woman should have the right to decide what happens with her body.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 1:10pm On Aug 29, 2013
Idi Amin: Seriously, catholics should stop this their "holier than thou" attitude. Why are they complaining when their so called Rev SISTERS are the major players in "ABORTION SECTOR". I just read the article in between the lines now and understood the content of the bill. Why would a woman keep a pregnancy for an armed robber/rapist or a pregnancy that might endanger her life? undecided
Can you back up this allegation of yours with any evidence or prove?
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Mylove55(f): 1:10pm On Aug 29, 2013
SELENAqueensy: Neva believed abortion was such an evil ting until i read a book "souls of the aborted babies" :' ;(

am really againt dat shit... If u aint ready 2 make babies, den quit fu*ckn or use protection.
Stop depriving d babies thier chance 2 live

Say no to abortion!!
usin protection,are u not also depriving d baby d chance to live

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