ladenz:

i wont judge you but i just looked at your profile pic and you are beautiful. you are going to have beautiful children. give them chance to live notwithstanding the circumstances around which they were conceived. Please

chukwudi44: OKOROCHA THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BROGHT YOU TOM POWER,WE CAN ALSO PULL YOU DOWN.DO NOT DARE US

lorretta u: don't worry about my kids.the first one will be born in 2016 into the arms of very loving parents.and given the best of life
Thanks for your concern

Anyigala: In every country where abortion has been legalised for whatever reason, it has always been abused. In UK, abortion was legalised in the late 60s and the law says that it can only be carried out when a woman's life is in danger or in the case of rape etc. The fact is that more than 5 million abortions has been carried out since then and only a fraction was due to any of the reasons the law stipulates.
It is a scientific fact that life begins at inception, to take that helpless, defenseless life is murder. Lets not coat the raw detail with fancy words like "reproductive rights" invented by abortion lobbyist.

ladenz:



comparing a baby to a parasite is rather coldhearted. your definition might be acceptable from the strictly scientific point of view but there are some human concepts that science will never capture. I can assure you that women who abort their babies dont do so feeling that they are getting rid of a parasite. they normally feel lots of guilt and the only reason they do it is because they have decided that the baby is going to complicate their lives and they choose to live uncomplicated lives rather than let the baby live.

Definition of manslaughter; The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

in miscarriages the mother does not kill the baby. the baby's death is an accident. if the miscarriage is caused by an act of carelessness on the mother's part (e.g. she went on a drinking binge when she was just about to give birth) then she might be guilty of manslaughter

Bros, your arguments confuse me o. i dont know if you are serious or you are just pulling our legs

chinicole: From most of the posts here, isn't it odd that , the men are the ones VEHEMENTLY supporting abortion?
Maybe because it frees them from their respondsibilities.
These are the men that will cajole and emotionally blackmail their female partners to have abortions,irregardless of the feelings of the women/girls themselves.
Every lady here, who has had an abortion knows that it is sinful.no matter the circumstances,The hearbreak , the burden of guilt persists for a long time.And a lot of women secretly mourn the loss.
It is only the serial offenders, who have been brainwashed by their irrespondsible men that harden their hearts and say there is nothing wrong with it.
No matter what the men argue here, no matter what some of the ladies say, we know the truth, that it is wrong.
Retrospectively looking, most women wish they did not abort.Even the men whom i have talked to often express regret at those decisions.

ladies, Give life a chance. If you dont want that child, there is a childless couple down the road that will be happy to have him/her.
when we listen to the news and we hear about baby factories that sell children for millions, doesn't that tell you that there is a GAP that you baby will fill in someone's life?
Be bold, be strong.
You are stronger than what that boy/man tells you. He is a coward and only seeks to protect himself.
Reach out to the churches for adoption options or go to the ministry of women affairs in your area.Remember, you always have an option than to take that life.
Where there is a will, where is a way.

If you commit abortion, it is murder. it is wrong. and you have completely denied the child the right to live.
If you have the child and give it up for adoption, you have reduced your burden, and the child can live.
Where there is life, there is hope.
GIve life a chance.

Please, think about it.DO NOT DO IT.

Amazondepth: As a Dr and a catholic I dsiagree with d position of d catholic Drs on this matter.some specific situations were espoused to justify d termination of pregnancy and it makes absolute sense!would any one allow a sibling,spouse,child or parent keep a pregnancy resulting from Rape or incest for example?nobody is promoting voluntary termination of unwanted pregnancies following wanton sexual escapades.we have to seperate d church from d state. D psycological burden of some pregnancy states are beyond d capacity of some individuals to handle.I have had a patient commit suicide cos she was made to keep a pregnancy that was as a result of rape

Saraben: Abortion is simply murder no 2 ways abt it

themaskedman:
You know this is a very stupid comment. Imo State may not be owned by Catholics but still Catholics have they right to fight against what goes against their belief. Catholics have been fighting against abortion and anti pro life policies in the USA a country more religiously diverse than Imo State and nobody has told them America doesn‘t belong to them alone. The Catholic doctors have given their reasons why not give your own in support and move on.
Btw do you know that if voting were to be done on religious line strictly, Catholics will always carry the day in Imo State?

Okija_juju:

[b]Heheehee

Bros.. I chose to be prctical in my approach to every subject of life.

Everyone has been throwing the word 'murder' around alot in this discussion. So we are now talking about child rights here (which technically under the laws of Nigeria, does not cover foetuses). So what about a mothers right?! The baby is a parasite (scientifically speaking). The mother has to carry this 'parasite', feed it, care for it and basically change her lifestyle to accomodate this 'parasite'.

Now the tricky part of this subject matter is that it crosses the Human rights of two parties. Now if a mother is diagonosed as having a troublesome pregnancy that might be fatal should she carry it to full term, who then has the right to live and the right to be killed off for the other to live?!

My point here is simply that life is not as straight forward as people think. I'll give you another complicated case; Conjoined foetuses. When these children are born and the parents decide to spilt them up, there are cases where one child has to be killed for the other to live. Question now becomes, how do we chose who goes and who lives? At every point in our lives, we are faced with tough choices. Abortion happens to be one of them. I personally feel its okay to abort a foetus that is under 3 months. The reason as far as i am concerned does not matter. If we can allow a mother kill off a foetus because her life is in danger, then why can she do same if her emotional life, financial life, social life, etc is in danger?!

I say the mother has the right to abort. Either that, or she can have the feotus taken out and the government can carry it till birth and care for it. #SIMPLE[/b]

Akainzo:

Strangely, many forgot the part where the constitution clearly stated that the "State Assemebly" is the representatives of the People and it is this same representatives of the People that actually passed the law!!

Okorocha is only assenting to a law passed by the State Assembly. Where were the Catholic Medical doctors when the bill was being debated in the House? Where were the Catholic majority in Imo state when the law was being debated in the House.
Also, if Imo State is made up of predominantly Catholics who have this belief against abortion, how come they elected a House that would predominantly go against the Catholic doctrine?

Something just isn't adding up in this protes?

ladenz:

anytime baby (in Barry White's baritone voice) . eehmm. by the way, can i be one of the very loving parents?

Okija_juju:

[b]Heheehee

Bros.. I chose to be prctical in my approach to every subject of life.

Everyone has been throwing the word 'murder' around alot in this discussion. So we are now talking about child rights here (which technically under the laws of Nigeria, does not cover foetuses). So what about a mothers right?! The baby is a parasite (scientifically speaking). The mother has to carry this 'parasite', feed it, care for it and basically change her lifestyle to accomodate this 'parasite'.

Now the tricky part of this subject matter is that it crosses the Human rights of two parties. Now if a mother is diagonosed as having a troublesome pregnancy that might be fatal should she carry it to full term, who then has the right to live and the right to be killed off for the other to live?!

My point here is simply that life is not as straight forward as people think. I'll give you another complicated case; Conjoined foetuses. When these children are born and the parents decide to spilt them up, there are cases where one child has to be killed for the other to live. Question now becomes, how do we chose who goes and who lives? At every point in our lives, we are faced with tough choices. Abortion happens to be one of them. I personally feel its okay to abort a foetus that is under 3 months. The reason as far as i am concerned does not matter. If we can allow a mother kill off a foetus because her life is in danger, then why can she do same if her emotional life, financial life, social life, etc is in danger?!

I say the mother has the right to abort. Either that, or she can have the feotus taken out and the government can carry it till birth and care for it. #SIMPLE[/b]

lorretta u: hahaha
In Celine's ultra feminine voice and amidst batting of eyelashes
"Yes You may try"
But then just saw ur profile.
Oh uh
Runs away.don't wanna be given an acid bathe from a jealous/fiance

lorretta u: hahaha
In Celine's ultra feminine voice and amidst batting of eyelashes
"Yes You may try"
But then just saw ur profile.
Oh uh
Runs away.don't wanna be given an acid bathe from a jealous/fiance

ladenz:

lol. i admire the fact that you argue without hurling insults around unlike most Nairalanders.

I wont even comment on the term 'parasite' anymore. As i said earlier the feelings a mother has towards her child cannot be defined by science.

mothers carrying fatal pregnancies happens once in a million cases. its not an easy decision to make but as someone said earlier on the thread some women chose not to abort, survived and are happy. others chose not to abort and died. their children grow up feeling forever grateful to the mothers who lost their lives to give them a chance to live theirs. Others aborted and the baby died. But the argument about making abortion legal has more to do with the majority of cases where the mother's life is not in danger. i dont agree with you that we can compare our financial, emotional and social life to the actual loss of life. If each time we feel financially or emotionally threatened we kill to remove the obstacle, very few people will be left on the face of the earth.

Finally, I agree with you that its a matter of rights. does the defenceless child not have the right to choose life? should the laws of the land not protect those who cannot protect themselves? I prefer your other suggestion that the baby should be put up for adoption by the government. that makes much more sense and i think that both parties will be happier apart from the few months of discomfort the mother will go through while carrying the child. But isnt it worth going through some discomfort so another human being can live a lifetime

thoth: actually even though the law states the condition on which abortion is allowed, what many of you fail to understand is that in the court of law it has several interpretaions. A woman can simply decide to abort a baby simply because she FEELS that it was not what she wants and therefore a concern to her health, there are many ways the whole line can be twisted.

Today i was informed that the law was drafted by USAID and they sorted the House of Assembly after the first attempt was rejected.

These USAID and others knows quite well what they are doing, it is we africans and our inferiority complex result in our quest to feel like to qhite man that is confused, very soon divorce laws will be introdued and i know people will like to sound modern and support it while our society disintegrates.

A woman who wants to spite you can abort your baby on basis of health reasons if she states that she does not feel healthy enough to proceed with the pregnancy.

May God help Africa.

pazienza:



When you take good care of her, she would be glad to have your baby. Stop blaming the white man for 'your' self made problem.


I am with Okorocha, every woman should have absolute control over her body,this is the way it should be. If you want a woman to bear your children, then learn to treat her like a queen. Nigeria is not a religious state, nobody is forcing catholics to commit abortion, catholics on the other hand,should not force non-catholics to abide by catholic religious and sanctimonious doctrines.


People should learn to live, and let others live. Those catholic doctors can go open a catholic managed hospital,where abortions will be criminalized,if they must work in the state controlled hospitals, they must abide by the laws of the state, which is secular and not religious.

mathskill: If they can accommodate gay priests i see no reason why they should deny a lady her right to a genuine abortion.

Xplodes2700: When i read some people's comment here am disapointed the way they think, i'm in support of the bill, pregnancy as a result of molestation or rape can be aborted, if you know the psychological and emotional pain the mother go through, plus the stigma attached to her from the society, if She's a student, her education is affected, and who will easy marry a single mum? Please lets not allow religion affect our sense Reasoning